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when you put goebels and bush together it is sadly striking how stupid we have become. goebels was smart and eloquent: bush is a vacant sign. what has happened to us. we kill for the likes of evolutionary nulls like bush. we deserve everything that is coming to us. we are really too stupid to be alive. if we didn’t have the elite terrorists killing to protect our wretched freedom, we would already be dead, but we are as good as dead already.
Posted by dougshaeffer on Mar 26, 2006 at 7:40 AM
What we need to do is wake up out of our Post 9/11 Stress Disorder, which makes us look to a protector figure for safety and mutes our collective rational faculties.
Ah, rational faculties! If only they were considered as admirable as having augmented tits or a fat bank account!
If throwing down with al Qaeda had been the primary agenda, that fight was in Afghanistan. Whatever other justifications might be cited in regards to the Iraq War, beating up on al Qaeda isn’t one of them.
And dougshaeffer, in response to your question, “what has happened to us”, the answer in part is that for years Americans have emphasized 1) entertainment rather than knowledge, 2) coddling of adolescent feelings rather than the training of incisive minds in schools, and 3) the convenience of sound-bite journalism, rather than insisting upon informative reporting that includes critical analysis of the world’s complexities in an honest and “uncooked” manner. In that context, is anything that we’re seeing, with the easy and liberal use of misinformation, really that surprising? Seems like the market for such is large and growing, more’s the pity.
Posted by Kuya on Mar 28, 2006 at 12:37 AM
kuya, i agree with your assessment. my question “what has happened to us” i guess is rhetorical. like waking up to the fact that our lives are constructed and mostly not by us, yet we are still somehow us and must stay awake.
re al queda afghanistan, we had to get the opium flowing again. our first priority was to free the drug trade from taliban control at least as i understand it wall street was jonesing bad.
Posted by dougshaeffer on Mar 28, 2006 at 8:51 AM
Goebbels is quoted:
“It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
What’s missing from this rather selective piece of journalism is the fact that the folks upset about this ad are themselves following Goebells’ advice in the area of repressing dissent, exactly as did the Kerry campaign in its efforts to silence the Swiftvets and others who simply wished to exercise their supposed rights of free speech in attempting to convey their own recollections of John Kerry’s “heroism” in Vietnam.
E-mail message from the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, demonstrating its “powers to repress dissent”:
<i>Dear DFLer,
I
Posted by Natalie on Mar 29, 2006 at 1:42 AM
Per Natalie’s post below, one of the reason’s Kerry lost in 2004 was that he DID NOT effectively challenge the lies and distortions coming from the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. (Hah! that’s a good one! “Truth”!!!)
Perhaps poor Natalie’s been living on Mars, or in Mississippi, for that matter, for it’s hard to see how she - or anyone else in America - could have missed how Karl Rove and his happy band of lying thugs have been playing right out of Goebbel’s playbook. George Dumbya’s administration takes unbridled glee in squashing dissent, limiting all Q&A opportunities to pre-screened Stepford Citizens and mislabelling anyone who disagrees with them as “traitors.” The fact that she’s at least reading “In These Times” speaks better for her than most of the Shiite Right who rely on the likes of Rush Limbore and his ilk for news, but like most of them, she misses the point entirely: television stations have no obligation to air BULLSHIT, and that’s exactly what these ads are.
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when you put goebels and bush together it is sadly striking how stupid we have become. goebels was smart and eloquent: bush is a vacant sign. what has happened to us. we kill for the likes of evolutionary nulls like bush. we deserve everything that is coming to us. we are really too stupid to be alive. if we didn’t have the elite terrorists killing to protect our wretched freedom, we would already be dead, but we are as good as dead already.
What we need to do is wake up out of our Post 9/11 Stress Disorder, which makes us look to a protector figure for safety and mutes our collective rational faculties.
Ah, rational faculties! If only they were considered as admirable as having augmented tits or a fat bank account!
If throwing down with al Qaeda had been the primary agenda, that fight was in Afghanistan. Whatever other justifications might be cited in regards to the Iraq War, beating up on al Qaeda isn’t one of them.
And dougshaeffer, in response to your question, “what has happened to us”, the answer in part is that for years Americans have emphasized 1) entertainment rather than knowledge, 2) coddling of adolescent feelings rather than the training of incisive minds in schools, and 3) the convenience of sound-bite journalism, rather than insisting upon informative reporting that includes critical analysis of the world’s complexities in an honest and “uncooked” manner. In that context, is anything that we’re seeing, with the easy and liberal use of misinformation, really that surprising? Seems like the market for such is large and growing, more’s the pity.
kuya, i agree with your assessment. my question “what has happened to us” i guess is rhetorical. like waking up to the fact that our lives are constructed and mostly not by us, yet we are still somehow us and must stay awake.
re al queda afghanistan, we had to get the opium flowing again. our first priority was to free the drug trade from taliban control at least as i understand it wall street was jonesing bad.
Goebbels is quoted:
“It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
What’s missing from this rather selective piece of journalism is the fact that the folks upset about this ad are themselves following Goebells’ advice in the area of repressing dissent, exactly as did the Kerry campaign in its efforts to silence the Swiftvets and others who simply wished to exercise their supposed rights of free speech in attempting to convey their own recollections of John Kerry’s “heroism” in Vietnam.
E-mail message from the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, demonstrating its “powers to repress dissent”:
<i>Dear DFLer,
I
Per Natalie’s post below, one of the reason’s Kerry lost in 2004 was that he DID NOT effectively challenge the lies and distortions coming from the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. (Hah! that’s a good one! “Truth”!!!)
Perhaps poor Natalie’s been living on Mars, or in Mississippi, for that matter, for it’s hard to see how she - or anyone else in America - could have missed how Karl Rove and his happy band of lying thugs have been playing right out of Goebbel’s playbook. George Dumbya’s administration takes unbridled glee in squashing dissent, limiting all Q&A opportunities to pre-screened Stepford Citizens and mislabelling anyone who disagrees with them as “traitors.” The fact that she’s at least reading “In These Times” speaks better for her than most of the Shiite Right who rely on the likes of Rush Limbore and his ilk for news, but like most of them, she misses the point entirely: television stations have no obligation to air BULLSHIT, and that’s exactly what these ads are.
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