Laura:
I’m sure your Mom realized through her friendship with Hispanic women that Hispanics in general and Mexicans in particular are not exactly pro-Black. That some in their community are ” objecting to the embrace of Mexican blackness.” says it all. If you think “pols must convince the people that it is in their urgent interest to resist the divisive race-baiting propagated by the powers that be.”, then they need to find current real-time common ground rather than a distant historical encounter.
Posted by theloneous on Apr 25, 2006 at 11:40 AM
ILLEGAL immigration is not a racist issue. Many of the protesters carried signs calling for a “FAIR” immigration policy.
Can someone tell me if there is something in the current policy which discriminates against Mexicans who apply for citizenship? Does the legal procedure favor other races and nationalities?
Would it not be “fair” to expect all applicants to follow the same process?
If President Fox took better care of his “essential assets” instead of pushing them off on us there would be no illegal/legal problem.
Posted by whattheheck on Apr 26, 2006 at 10:54 AM
This issue has many facets which are seldom discussed.
There is much poverty and corruption in Mexico which must be addressed; many of the current problems can be traced to the rampant corruption which has decimated the middle class while increasing the wealth of the top 5%. Perhaps President Fox could first address these issues in his own country. Or perhaps he is worried that the millions - or is it billions—of dollars sent home to Mexico each year would be lost.
Have you considered how Mexico treats illegal aliens from other countries in Latin America? Brutally. Yet Mr. Fox expects a different treatment for Mexicans coming illegally to the US. We should all resent this one-sided expectation.
Have you considered the long-term affects of absorbing what is probably not 11 million, but over 20 million individuals? If the US economy was robust, they would most likely be absorbed. But in today’s economy, it is not unlikely that it will have a dampening affect on wages and benefits, particularly wages and benefits at the lower end of the earnings scale. Will we end up with higher levels of poverty and crime, greater stress on our already financially-challenged school and healthcare systems?
Have you considered who most benefits from dampening wages, from not paying benefits? Have you considered why - until last month - there had been only 4 companies investigated for hiring illegal aliens in the last year? In Clinton’s last year in office over 500 were investigated.
Have you considered the logistic nightmare - and costs - of “legalizing” 11-20 million illegal aliens? Given the current immigration backlog (years), how soon will the financially strapped INS be able to seriously investigate and process each of these illegal aliens? How long do they stay while they are waiting? Who will finance this? Me? You? President Fox?
Have you considered the precedence being set? My husband’s daughter has been waiting for over a decade to come to this country from Peru. She has abided by US laws. Should she and other law abiding individuals be penalized because illegal aliens working in this country decide they should move to the front of the line? Or should she come here illegally to gain citizenship?
There are many questions to be answered before we agree to anything that will have such a profound effect. It requires more than marching in the street, It requires time to seriously research, dialog and carefully plan. It requires time to develop a concensus among the citizens of the US… because it is a decison that affects our country. It should not be the decision of special interests or foreign governments or illegal aliens.
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Sounds like Mama was not able to reason with *Laura*. . .
Laura:
I’m sure your Mom realized through her friendship with Hispanic women that Hispanics in general and Mexicans in particular are not exactly pro-Black. That some in their community are ” objecting to the embrace of Mexican blackness.” says it all. If you think “pols must convince the people that it is in their urgent interest to resist the divisive race-baiting propagated by the powers that be.”, then they need to find current real-time common ground rather than a distant historical encounter.
ILLEGAL immigration is not a racist issue. Many of the protesters carried signs calling for a “FAIR” immigration policy.
Can someone tell me if there is something in the current policy which discriminates against Mexicans who apply for citizenship? Does the legal procedure favor other races and nationalities?
Would it not be “fair” to expect all applicants to follow the same process?
If President Fox took better care of his “essential assets” instead of pushing them off on us there would be no illegal/legal problem.
This issue has many facets which are seldom discussed.
There is much poverty and corruption in Mexico which must be addressed; many of the current problems can be traced to the rampant corruption which has decimated the middle class while increasing the wealth of the top 5%. Perhaps President Fox could first address these issues in his own country. Or perhaps he is worried that the millions - or is it billions—of dollars sent home to Mexico each year would be lost.
Have you considered how Mexico treats illegal aliens from other countries in Latin America? Brutally. Yet Mr. Fox expects a different treatment for Mexicans coming illegally to the US. We should all resent this one-sided expectation.
Have you considered the long-term affects of absorbing what is probably not 11 million, but over 20 million individuals? If the US economy was robust, they would most likely be absorbed. But in today’s economy, it is not unlikely that it will have a dampening affect on wages and benefits, particularly wages and benefits at the lower end of the earnings scale. Will we end up with higher levels of poverty and crime, greater stress on our already financially-challenged school and healthcare systems?
Have you considered who most benefits from dampening wages, from not paying benefits? Have you considered why - until last month - there had been only 4 companies investigated for hiring illegal aliens in the last year? In Clinton’s last year in office over 500 were investigated.
Have you considered the logistic nightmare - and costs - of “legalizing” 11-20 million illegal aliens? Given the current immigration backlog (years), how soon will the financially strapped INS be able to seriously investigate and process each of these illegal aliens? How long do they stay while they are waiting? Who will finance this? Me? You? President Fox?
Have you considered the precedence being set? My husband’s daughter has been waiting for over a decade to come to this country from Peru. She has abided by US laws. Should she and other law abiding individuals be penalized because illegal aliens working in this country decide they should move to the front of the line? Or should she come here illegally to gain citizenship?
There are many questions to be answered before we agree to anything that will have such a profound effect. It requires more than marching in the street, It requires time to seriously research, dialog and carefully plan. It requires time to develop a concensus among the citizens of the US… because it is a decison that affects our country. It should not be the decision of special interests or foreign governments or illegal aliens.
Anybody intimidated by the number of Hispanic protesters on May 1st should consider the influence they would have if all are made legitimate citizens.
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