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http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/01/18/scandal/index.html
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/01/18/scandal/index.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/topics/topic.php?topicId=1010
WE will get out of iraq when we get a new president.
Posted by brian28 on May 23, 2006 at 2:30 PM
As for the illegal, immoral occupation of Palestine, if we keep yakking about it long enough, there will be nothing left to dispute, which is obviously the plan.
Posted by opeluboy on May 23, 2006 at 4:22 PM
An interesting discussion with several useful observations and suggestions. I also found it interesting that some of the things being criticized were evidenced in the words of the participants. Understanding and objectivity seem to be universal traits.
Perhaps most important there is agreement among the group that the terrorist threat is real and more than a U.S. problem. Certainly multinational cooperation is needed if we are to avoid a global conflict.
There seemed to be a consensus that democracy should be promoted, but a naive expectation that it is universally desired.
Viewing the region as a whole rather than piecemeal would be a new approach
Posted by whattheheck on May 24, 2006 at 7:06 AM
Correction: Should read…
“Understanding and objectivity seem to be universally missing traits.”
Posted by whattheheck on May 24, 2006 at 9:21 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091901859.html
http://www.antiwar.com/engelhardt/?articleid=9006
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/war-goes-pop-protest-music-rocks-us/11326-2.html
http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-sweet242.html
Posted by brian28 on May 24, 2006 at 4:37 PM
The choices that the US has in the MIddle East grow narrower every day that the illegal and immoral occupation of Iraq continues. This is also true of the occupation of Palestine by Israel. Bush has recently blamed suicide bombings for most of the problems in Iraq and for Iraq’s inability to reach a stable and peaceful political solution to its problems. The Balkanization of the country and its turning into a new Lebanon is the real problem in Iraq, not terrorism. The fratricidal civil war, which came about mostly through US imperialist meddling with Iraq’s internal affairs as it attempted to impose a new constitution federating the country’s eighteen provinces along ethno-religious lines, is the real source of the violence committed by sectarian militias with improvised explosives in the name of asserting their political will as separate identities. Ethnic cleansing is now the order of the day and the Sunnis suffer disproportionately. Terrorism claims proportionately few lives compared to sectarian militia violence. It is well known that since the constitutional referendum in 2005 the Sunnis have born the brunt of the attacks by militias trained and armed by the US like the Badr Brigades of the Shi’ite SCIRI organization. The Kurdish Peshmerga have been armed and trained by the CIA and encouraged to expel the Sunnis of Kirkuk and areas around this city and other Kurdish cities in Mosul.
US imperialism sees the Sunnis as it saw the Serbs in the former Yugoslavia—as an inconvenient holdover from a nationalist past which is obstructing imperialism’s plans to fragment formerly unified countries along sectarian lines in order to more easily globalize the local economy through transnational corporate investment and trade. Continuing nationalism can only politically fetter these goals. The US must cease. Self determination must be allowed for all people’s. US meddling is now the source of the violence. The US role must change for a peaceful political solution to succeed.
Posted by cabdriverinchicago on May 26, 2006 at 8:17 PM
There is a report on Opinion Journal from an Iraqi woman who has worked in their government which is somewhat optimstic.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/wsj/?id=110008440
She stated one of the things I have felt for a long time
Posted by whattheheck on May 28, 2006 at 9:10 AM
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http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/01/18/scandal/index.html
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/01/18/scandal/index.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/topics/topic.php?topicId=1010
WE will get out of iraq when we get a new president.
As for the illegal, immoral occupation of Palestine, if we keep yakking about it long enough, there will be nothing left to dispute, which is obviously the plan.
An interesting discussion with several useful observations and suggestions. I also found it interesting that some of the things being criticized were evidenced in the words of the participants. Understanding and objectivity seem to be universal traits.
Perhaps most important there is agreement among the group that the terrorist threat is real and more than a U.S. problem. Certainly multinational cooperation is needed if we are to avoid a global conflict.
There seemed to be a consensus that democracy should be promoted, but a naive expectation that it is universally desired.
Viewing the region as a whole rather than piecemeal would be a new approach
Correction: Should read…
“Understanding and objectivity seem to be universally missing traits.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091901859.html
http://www.antiwar.com/engelhardt/?articleid=9006
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/war-goes-pop-protest-music-rocks-us/11326-2.html
http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-sweet242.html
The choices that the US has in the MIddle East grow narrower every day that the illegal and immoral occupation of Iraq continues. This is also true of the occupation of Palestine by Israel. Bush has recently blamed suicide bombings for most of the problems in Iraq and for Iraq’s inability to reach a stable and peaceful political solution to its problems. The Balkanization of the country and its turning into a new Lebanon is the real problem in Iraq, not terrorism. The fratricidal civil war, which came about mostly through US imperialist meddling with Iraq’s internal affairs as it attempted to impose a new constitution federating the country’s eighteen provinces along ethno-religious lines, is the real source of the violence committed by sectarian militias with improvised explosives in the name of asserting their political will as separate identities. Ethnic cleansing is now the order of the day and the Sunnis suffer disproportionately. Terrorism claims proportionately few lives compared to sectarian militia violence. It is well known that since the constitutional referendum in 2005 the Sunnis have born the brunt of the attacks by militias trained and armed by the US like the Badr Brigades of the Shi’ite SCIRI organization. The Kurdish Peshmerga have been armed and trained by the CIA and encouraged to expel the Sunnis of Kirkuk and areas around this city and other Kurdish cities in Mosul.
US imperialism sees the Sunnis as it saw the Serbs in the former Yugoslavia—as an inconvenient holdover from a nationalist past which is obstructing imperialism’s plans to fragment formerly unified countries along sectarian lines in order to more easily globalize the local economy through transnational corporate investment and trade. Continuing nationalism can only politically fetter these goals. The US must cease. Self determination must be allowed for all people’s. US meddling is now the source of the violence. The US role must change for a peaceful political solution to succeed.
There is a report on Opinion Journal from an Iraqi woman who has worked in their government which is somewhat optimstic.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/wsj/?id=110008440
She stated one of the things I have felt for a long time
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