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There is only one way in American culture to end de facto segregation, poverty and crime —-and that is to make certain everyone has well paying jobs. The historic and sociological evidence is overwhelming. It is just never going to happen until their is a violent revolution and the capitalist system is overthrown and that revolution has a clarion call for equality along with liberty and fraternity.
I challenge anyone to show me where through logic or reason I am wrong.
Posted by Spinoza750 on Sep 17, 2006 at 6:50 PM
Rising expectations.
By historical standards, the “poor” in the US are very well off indeed. But put them in front of their color TVs and show them how the rich live and they are unhappy. Even with washers, dryers, tvs, radios, more than enough food to eat (who ever dreamed the “poor” would be fat one day?), etc etc etc.
A violent revolution would merely destroy the capital that we collectively possess and make us all a bit poorer. A very very bad idea.
Posted by wolf on Sep 18, 2006 at 9:44 AM
Mr. Wolf do you really believe such right wing trash?—- Stuff that has no basis in reality? Do you think people living in the slums of the USA are that well off? (It should be commented that no other advanced capitalist country has as bad slums as the USA)! Do you realize that life expectancy, infant mortality, beggary, crime and other indicators of well being are as bad in the USA central cities as in some third world countries?
Not only is the poverty world wide an indicator of the horrendous failure of capitalism, but especially in its extreme form as seen in the USA poverty indicates the inherent failure of capitalism and capitalist ideology.
Very important message!!!
WE HAVE TO DEFEAT THE BUSHITES
http://www.worldcantwait.net/
Posted by Spinoza750 on Sep 18, 2006 at 4:59 PM
Mr. Wolf why don’t you think we have well paying jobs for everyone?
Posted by Spinoza750 on Sep 18, 2006 at 5:04 PM
“Mr. Wolf why don
Posted by chopper on Sep 30, 2006 at 8:18 AM
“There is only one way in American culture to end de facto segregation, poverty and crime—-and that is to make certain everyone has well paying jobs. The historic and sociological evidence is overwhelming. It is just never going to happen until their is a violent revolution and the capitalist system is overthrown and that revolution has a clarion call for equality along with liberty and fraternity.
I challenge anyone to show me where through logic or reason I am wrong.”
Yes, of course. Such violent revolutions, such as the French, Russian, and Chinese revolutions, worked wonders in the past. Of course a few million people (or hundreds of millions) had to be liquidated along the way but what is that when one is in the process of building a better society.
One must break a few eggs (or a few hundred million) when making an omlet.
Posted by chopper on Sep 30, 2006 at 8:39 AM
“Not only is the poverty world wide an indicator of the horrendous failure of capitalism, but especially in its extreme form as seen in the USA poverty indicates the inherent failure of capitalism and capitalist ideology.”
Exactly! That is why living conditions were so much better in Soviet Russia and Communist China than they ever were in the USA. Why, Cambodia during the reign of the Khmer Rouge was nearly a paradise. All the dead bodies were merely capitalist pigs who deserved their fate!
Posted by chopper on Sep 30, 2006 at 6:33 PM
Non Sequitur but keep trying . Someday you will say something on topic and coherent
Posted by Spinoza750 on Sep 30, 2006 at 11:21 PM
“Non Sequitur but keep trying . Someday you will say something on topic and coherent”
Actually I was just agreeing with your thinking. As you imply, it isn’t mentally taxing.
Regards
Posted by chopper on Oct 1, 2006 at 7:20 PM
Please read
” Two Nations, Black and White, Seperate, Hostile, Unequal “
By Andrew Hacker
Posted by R.B.Green on Oct 5, 2006 at 9:56 AM
The author failed to show how living in a suburb is racist. The article was trite and inconsequential. Somehow average Americans shoud feel guilty for living in a safe community with good schools?
Spinoza…......What planet are you from? Poverty is universal. Suffering is universal…....... Moron.
Posted by texasindependent on Oct 7, 2006 at 9:11 AM
>>>Spinoza…......What planet are you from? Poverty is universal. Suffering is universal…....... Moron. <<<<
In the 1960’s Sweden had a diverse population that included poorer people from Turkey and Yugoslavia and yet they had next to no poverty nor any of the crime, slums, beggary etc associated with poverty. How was this possible? No the real morons in the world are right wing scum who insist that poverty has to exist or that war has to exist or that gross disease has to exit. The world would be a much better place once all of the right wing scum are removed.
WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS.
Posted by Spinoza750 on Oct 7, 2006 at 5:26 PM
“In the 1960
Posted by chopper on Oct 8, 2006 at 8:53 PM
Only if I think you are worthy of making an argument with,—-which is not the case right now. Based on previous posts I did not see any common ground
Posted by Spinoza750 on Oct 9, 2006 at 12:58 AM
By the way Sweden has never been Socialist, it is just that in the 60’s and 70’s it had less inequality than other countries due to social democrat policies.
Posted by Spinoza750 on Oct 9, 2006 at 8:35 AM
“Only if I think you are worthy of making an argument with,—-which is not the case right now. Based on previous posts I did not see any common ground”
Perhaps I appear that way to you because you haven’t really made much of an argument yourself. Your reasoning so far has been weak or non-existent.
“By the way Sweden has never been Socialist, it is just that in the 60
Posted by chopper on Oct 9, 2006 at 4:19 PM
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There is only one way in American culture to end de facto segregation, poverty and crime —-and that is to make certain everyone has well paying jobs. The historic and sociological evidence is overwhelming. It is just never going to happen until their is a violent revolution and the capitalist system is overthrown and that revolution has a clarion call for equality along with liberty and fraternity.
I challenge anyone to show me where through logic or reason I am wrong.
Rising expectations.
By historical standards, the “poor” in the US are very well off indeed. But put them in front of their color TVs and show them how the rich live and they are unhappy. Even with washers, dryers, tvs, radios, more than enough food to eat (who ever dreamed the “poor” would be fat one day?), etc etc etc.
A violent revolution would merely destroy the capital that we collectively possess and make us all a bit poorer. A very very bad idea.
Mr. Wolf do you really believe such right wing trash?—- Stuff that has no basis in reality? Do you think people living in the slums of the USA are that well off? (It should be commented that no other advanced capitalist country has as bad slums as the USA)! Do you realize that life expectancy, infant mortality, beggary, crime and other indicators of well being are as bad in the USA central cities as in some third world countries?
Not only is the poverty world wide an indicator of the horrendous failure of capitalism, but especially in its extreme form as seen in the USA poverty indicates the inherent failure of capitalism and capitalist ideology.
Very important message!!!
WE HAVE TO DEFEAT THE BUSHITES
http://www.worldcantwait.net/
Mr. Wolf why don’t you think we have well paying jobs for everyone?
“Mr. Wolf why don
“There is only one way in American culture to end de facto segregation, poverty and crime—-and that is to make certain everyone has well paying jobs. The historic and sociological evidence is overwhelming. It is just never going to happen until their is a violent revolution and the capitalist system is overthrown and that revolution has a clarion call for equality along with liberty and fraternity.
I challenge anyone to show me where through logic or reason I am wrong.”
Yes, of course. Such violent revolutions, such as the French, Russian, and Chinese revolutions, worked wonders in the past. Of course a few million people (or hundreds of millions) had to be liquidated along the way but what is that when one is in the process of building a better society.
One must break a few eggs (or a few hundred million) when making an omlet.
“Not only is the poverty world wide an indicator of the horrendous failure of capitalism, but especially in its extreme form as seen in the USA poverty indicates the inherent failure of capitalism and capitalist ideology.”
Exactly! That is why living conditions were so much better in Soviet Russia and Communist China than they ever were in the USA. Why, Cambodia during the reign of the Khmer Rouge was nearly a paradise. All the dead bodies were merely capitalist pigs who deserved their fate!
Non Sequitur but keep trying . Someday you will say something on topic and coherent
“Non Sequitur but keep trying . Someday you will say something on topic and coherent”
Actually I was just agreeing with your thinking. As you imply, it isn’t mentally taxing.
Regards
Please read
” Two Nations, Black and White, Seperate, Hostile, Unequal “
By Andrew Hacker
The author failed to show how living in a suburb is racist. The article was trite and inconsequential. Somehow average Americans shoud feel guilty for living in a safe community with good schools?
Spinoza…......What planet are you from? Poverty is universal. Suffering is universal…....... Moron.
>>>Spinoza…......What planet are you from? Poverty is universal. Suffering is universal…....... Moron. <<<<
In the 1960’s Sweden had a diverse population that included poorer people from Turkey and Yugoslavia and yet they had next to no poverty nor any of the crime, slums, beggary etc associated with poverty. How was this possible? No the real morons in the world are right wing scum who insist that poverty has to exist or that war has to exist or that gross disease has to exit. The world would be a much better place once all of the right wing scum are removed.
WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS.
“In the 1960
Only if I think you are worthy of making an argument with,—-which is not the case right now. Based on previous posts I did not see any common ground
By the way Sweden has never been Socialist, it is just that in the 60’s and 70’s it had less inequality than other countries due to social democrat policies.
“Only if I think you are worthy of making an argument with,—-which is not the case right now. Based on previous posts I did not see any common ground”
Perhaps I appear that way to you because you haven’t really made much of an argument yourself. Your reasoning so far has been weak or non-existent.
“By the way Sweden has never been Socialist, it is just that in the 60
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