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Why not YDS? isn’t this new SDS pretty much offering the same thing? why do we need yet another mildly-impactful, progressive youth organization, and especially one with such baggage as this? i find it unimaginative. why not breathe life into YDS?
Posted by n.e.s.t.a. on Aug 25, 2006 at 8:50 AM
Thanks for the thoughtful post Nesta - the reason is that SDS is a very diverse group. YDS has some great people (Jason Schulman and Lucas Shapiro come to mind) but many of us in SDS and MDS are not from the Democratic Socialist tradition. I myself am an
anarcho-syndicalist (I am a wobbly from the NYC GMB). We also have a number of anarchists, Greens, PDAs and others. In short, we have a broader constituency. That said we are grateful to YDS for getting us space at the University of Chicago!
Solidarity,
Tom Good, SDS New York
Posted by tmgood on Aug 25, 2006 at 9:56 AM
thank you, tom. just the answer i was looking for. thanks for your work.
peace.
Posted by n.e.s.t.a. on Aug 25, 2006 at 11:24 AM
Interesting news. I left the States for Europe two weeks after the first election of George Bush. Here in Spain almost everyone who is not a large business owner considers him or herself a “worker”. I
Posted by barcelona on Aug 25, 2006 at 2:11 PM
Congratulations JL, you have the nail on the head. US citizens can scarcely imagine what it is like to live in countries that take social solidarity seriously, and who have actually suffered themselves (as opposed to creating suffering solely for others) at the hands of their own elites. Until the US as a whole, not just students, (who by definition, are a relatively privileged minority), are able to confront the truth about their society and the way their elites treat both US citizens and the rest of the world, there will never be any change, notwithstanding the good intentions of those resuccitating SDS.
A key example is the falling incomes of the US working class (by which I mean the majority of those who must work for wages or salary). Where is the outrage? Where are the campaigns? Where is the sense that US citizens even want to hold their elites to account? The state of organised labour in the US is absolutely pitiful, the worst in the OECD actually. But no-one seems to care, and the consequences are scarcely remarked upon. IMHO it is yet another reason why it is always bad to be a citiizen of empire, rather than of a nation state.
Posted by Jane Doe on Aug 27, 2006 at 4:11 PM
I am thrilled to find that the old SDS is being revived. There can hardly be better news. I’ve meet Tom Hayden twice and spoke with him. I think he’s done a lot for progressive politics in this country. SDS has the potential to be a great umbrella organization of progressive activism. My only question is where do I sign up?!
Posted by cabdriverinchicago on Aug 27, 2006 at 9:50 PM
Hey Cab Driver In Chicago! Thanks much for your comment. Tom Hayden is back. He is now a member of the Movement for a Democratic Society (MDS - the post grad wing of SDS) foundation advisory board.
You can join us online, check out -
http://www.newsds.org/join/sds_membership.cgi
BTW, I had never been to Chicago before. I loved it.
Solidarity in Democratic Struggle,
Tom Good
SDS New York
Posted by tmgood on Aug 28, 2006 at 10:40 AM
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Why not YDS? isn’t this new SDS pretty much offering the same thing? why do we need yet another mildly-impactful, progressive youth organization, and especially one with such baggage as this? i find it unimaginative. why not breathe life into YDS?
Thanks for the thoughtful post Nesta - the reason is that SDS is a very diverse group. YDS has some great people (Jason Schulman and Lucas Shapiro come to mind) but many of us in SDS and MDS are not from the Democratic Socialist tradition. I myself am an
anarcho-syndicalist (I am a wobbly from the NYC GMB). We also have a number of anarchists, Greens, PDAs and others. In short, we have a broader constituency. That said we are grateful to YDS for getting us space at the University of Chicago!
Solidarity,
Tom Good, SDS New York
thank you, tom. just the answer i was looking for. thanks for your work.
peace.
Interesting news. I left the States for Europe two weeks after the first election of George Bush. Here in Spain almost everyone who is not a large business owner considers him or herself a “worker”. I
Congratulations JL, you have the nail on the head. US citizens can scarcely imagine what it is like to live in countries that take social solidarity seriously, and who have actually suffered themselves (as opposed to creating suffering solely for others) at the hands of their own elites. Until the US as a whole, not just students, (who by definition, are a relatively privileged minority), are able to confront the truth about their society and the way their elites treat both US citizens and the rest of the world, there will never be any change, notwithstanding the good intentions of those resuccitating SDS.
A key example is the falling incomes of the US working class (by which I mean the majority of those who must work for wages or salary). Where is the outrage? Where are the campaigns? Where is the sense that US citizens even want to hold their elites to account? The state of organised labour in the US is absolutely pitiful, the worst in the OECD actually. But no-one seems to care, and the consequences are scarcely remarked upon. IMHO it is yet another reason why it is always bad to be a citiizen of empire, rather than of a nation state.
I am thrilled to find that the old SDS is being revived. There can hardly be better news. I’ve meet Tom Hayden twice and spoke with him. I think he’s done a lot for progressive politics in this country. SDS has the potential to be a great umbrella organization of progressive activism. My only question is where do I sign up?!
Hey Cab Driver In Chicago! Thanks much for your comment. Tom Hayden is back. He is now a member of the Movement for a Democratic Society (MDS - the post grad wing of SDS) foundation advisory board.
You can join us online, check out -
http://www.newsds.org/join/sds_membership.cgi
BTW, I had never been to Chicago before. I loved it.
Solidarity in Democratic Struggle,
Tom Good
SDS New York
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