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I can’t tell you how many people I know who are shocked—SHOCKED!—to hear the news—NEWS!
Well, I’m sorry to hear that. How come they didn’t know?
What the heck is going on?
Posted by lbyland on Sep 27, 2006 at 6:18 AM
What are they shocked about….Ibyland…This certainly cannot be the first time these people have heard of the free flyer passes , the Bush regime is handing out to some of their more , shall I say…Special Friends…
The fascist are here…nobody is suppose too know , it ruins the neo-con fascist game plan…........
Good amerikans are suppose to have qiuet feet and hands…and please…don’t think or ask question….Just do what you’re told…not now…but yesterday , this is a democracy damnit….........
Posted by Redhorse on Sep 28, 2006 at 4:28 PM
it’s also important to appreciate how in the mainstream media all prisons are invisibilized. . . like the Law and Order TV show, which never shows prisons; incarceration as a paradigmatic institution of “democracy” is never considered.
these practices of course should not shock anyone aquainted with conditions of U.S. prisons. however what should be shocking is the fervor with which the likes of Matt Lauer are incensed at the possibility of these being “illegal” especially when it is the decision of those hawks in DC to decide what’s legal and what isn’t. the question for Lauer should be if these practices were legal, would they be okay? it all speaks to the fragile guilt complex of the U.S. psyche, Lauer just wants to follow the law. . .doesn’t matter what that law says of does, as long as it’s followed. . . fascism yes, but also nothing new. and if anyone thinks it is, read some George Jackson.
Posted by dpstein on Sep 29, 2006 at 10:53 AM
dpstein….Yeah….Matt Lauer and that whole network TV crowd are guilty of incompetence as far as performing their jobs…very little real journalism…goin on…
It’s been a long time sense Redhorse has read ” Blood in My Eye “....lent it to a friend , never got it back…ya know….
At approximately 8% of the world population…the US incarcerates 25% of the prisoners on this planet….Supposedly the worlds greatest democracy ; but can’t find a better way to deal with so-called criminals…most are non- violent offenders…Now they have prison for profit…so the incentive to lock folks up is stronger than ever…....What a nation…...........
Just viewed this on google , thought it to be very relevant to the discussion…titled.”.Book’em Undereducated , Overincarcerated.”....
www.youthrightsmedia.org…...check it out….prisons for profit…Blood in my eye…..
Posted by Redhorse on Sep 29, 2006 at 3:10 PM
“all that must happen for evil to triumph is for good people do nothing”
We Americans are a good people ,how can we allow our goverment ,ourselves ,to torture people..hold people without hearings or access to attorneys?We must stop these horrible practices and indict those who put them in place and participated in them.
.We have allowed these people, using terrorist as the excuse, to destroy what was good and sacred about America..The Rule of Law and Due Proces..
How can we possibly lecture Iran , China or other countries about human rights abuses when we are doing the same or worse..?
and something else to consider….......... those individuals who are being whisked away from their families and tortured in some hell hole ,,that are completely innocent,,,,how many of those will now turn into terrorist ?
Watch the movie RENDITION ,,and the true stories behind it in the directors cut
Posted by freedomfighter on Mar 4, 2008 at 3:36 PM
It is shocking that a free democratic nation does this,I wonder why we get bombed?after hearing this?But just imagine youre neighbor doesnt show up at work as two kids and wife,nobody knows were he is onlly to hear 5 years later from another person saying he say him in a (cia prison) without warrent,lawyer,torture,youde have to say anything to make it stop?)no good words for it really I do not hope our men get captured or so because I can imagine what will happen.Either win a war or get out!and dont drag the whole world into it ,because of these last wars the world went in recession bad enough,and when some soldier gets home to find home soldits to late?anyone got better advice?as long as it aint about intel tacticsthey never worked!!!
Posted by anthony on May 22, 2010 at 7:51 AM
We are doing the same as Russia <China..A normal person would kick Karzaii off his post but he has a deal with ,as Musharriff they are there to listen to what we tell them.We have a big war on opium,yet we walk around these fields just observing to see who buys them ,knowing the Taliban uses it to buy weapons ,yet we let them,if we got rid of all of that no war or say les war in Mexico and full scale in Afgan,learn them a trade they know it aint good for the world,and a country cannot rule on such things,onlly destroy their own country as others instead we watch them do it!!This is the cia picture also with kidnaping in legal way.theyre in it deep!
Posted by anthony on May 22, 2010 at 8:01 AM
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I can’t tell you how many people I know who are shocked—SHOCKED!—to hear the news—NEWS!
Well, I’m sorry to hear that. How come they didn’t know?
What the heck is going on?
What are they shocked about….Ibyland…This certainly cannot be the first time these people have heard of the free flyer passes , the Bush regime is handing out to some of their more , shall I say…Special Friends…
The fascist are here…nobody is suppose too know , it ruins the neo-con fascist game plan…........
Good amerikans are suppose to have qiuet feet and hands…and please…don’t think or ask question….Just do what you’re told…not now…but yesterday , this is a democracy damnit….........
it’s also important to appreciate how in the mainstream media all prisons are invisibilized. . . like the Law and Order TV show, which never shows prisons; incarceration as a paradigmatic institution of “democracy” is never considered.
these practices of course should not shock anyone aquainted with conditions of U.S. prisons. however what should be shocking is the fervor with which the likes of Matt Lauer are incensed at the possibility of these being “illegal” especially when it is the decision of those hawks in DC to decide what’s legal and what isn’t. the question for Lauer should be if these practices were legal, would they be okay? it all speaks to the fragile guilt complex of the U.S. psyche, Lauer just wants to follow the law. . .doesn’t matter what that law says of does, as long as it’s followed. . . fascism yes, but also nothing new. and if anyone thinks it is, read some George Jackson.
dpstein….Yeah….Matt Lauer and that whole network TV crowd are guilty of incompetence as far as performing their jobs…very little real journalism…goin on…
It’s been a long time sense Redhorse has read ” Blood in My Eye “....lent it to a friend , never got it back…ya know….
At approximately 8% of the world population…the US incarcerates 25% of the prisoners on this planet….Supposedly the worlds greatest democracy ; but can’t find a better way to deal with so-called criminals…most are non- violent offenders…Now they have prison for profit…so the incentive to lock folks up is stronger than ever…....What a nation…...........
Just viewed this on google , thought it to be very relevant to the discussion…titled.”.Book’em Undereducated , Overincarcerated.”....
www.youthrightsmedia.org…...check it out….prisons for profit…Blood in my eye…..
“all that must happen for evil to triumph is for good people do nothing”
We Americans are a good people ,how can we allow our goverment ,ourselves ,to torture people..hold people without hearings or access to attorneys?We must stop these horrible practices and indict those who put them in place and participated in them.
.We have allowed these people, using terrorist as the excuse, to destroy what was good and sacred about America..The Rule of Law and Due Proces..
How can we possibly lecture Iran , China or other countries about human rights abuses when we are doing the same or worse..?
and something else to consider….......... those individuals who are being whisked away from their families and tortured in some hell hole ,,that are completely innocent,,,,how many of those will now turn into terrorist ?
Watch the movie RENDITION ,,and the true stories behind it in the directors cut
It is shocking that a free democratic nation does this,I wonder why we get bombed?after hearing this?But just imagine youre neighbor doesnt show up at work as two kids and wife,nobody knows were he is onlly to hear 5 years later from another person saying he say him in a (cia prison) without warrent,lawyer,torture,youde have to say anything to make it stop?)no good words for it really I do not hope our men get captured or so because I can imagine what will happen.Either win a war or get out!and dont drag the whole world into it ,because of these last wars the world went in recession bad enough,and when some soldier gets home to find home soldits to late?anyone got better advice?as long as it aint about intel tacticsthey never worked!!!
We are doing the same as Russia <China..A normal person would kick Karzaii off his post but he has a deal with ,as Musharriff they are there to listen to what we tell them.We have a big war on opium,yet we walk around these fields just observing to see who buys them ,knowing the Taliban uses it to buy weapons ,yet we let them,if we got rid of all of that no war or say les war in Mexico and full scale in Afgan,learn them a trade they know it aint good for the world,and a country cannot rule on such things,onlly destroy their own country as others instead we watch them do it!!This is the cia picture also with kidnaping in legal way.theyre in it deep!
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