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Reader Comments (41)Page 1 of 1 pagesplease, don’t encourage pelosi’s china-phobia, she has been itching to get us in a war with china for years, the ultimate big enchilada for the neocons, last thing we need is some stupidass lib like levy prattling about democrazy, btw, most people do not think the system is working
here in the usa.
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 2, 2007 at 3:35 PM a fine story that doesn’t necessarily have any answers, only more questions. despite the so-called ‘smaller world’ we supposedly live in, the globe is still a vast and complicated place, and much of what we think we know about our country or another is based on limited knowledge and what the media wants us to believe. though china is the world’s fastest growing economy, not everything there is honky dorey nor does prospertiy come without its own price. it sounds as if pelosi is an enemy of those who would seek to destroy human rights, and since china is a flagrant violator of such freedoms, poor work horse has misinterpreted her as anti-chinese. too bad! true enough that we americans could all use a refresher course in democracy and constitutional freedom. sad it is too that the average chinese student appears more interested and informed about the political scene than their american counterparts. for more interesting insights into the problems of linguistic and cultural interchange, be sure to visit mr. levy’s very informative website. it’s not preachy, pro-american, guilt tripping or out to prove that east is better than west. it shows things for what they are and helps its readers formulate their own opinions. an excellent blog that is not all ego and self-indulgence, for a change.
p.s. rude, personal comments like those of hawaii jack should not be permitted on this website, though that would be violation of freedom of speech, wouldn’t it? oh, well!
Posted by emmbee on Jan 2, 2007 at 4:45 PM Dear Mr. Hawaii Jack,
Why is it “china-phobia” to spend you political career lining up on the side of civil rights for “all” people regardless of nationality or in trying to use trade leverage to avoid the inevitable “race to the bottom” for the world’s labor pool. How does doing morally correct things with ones political opportunities equate to a desire to engage in “military” war with China? Are you suggesting Pelosi and the neo-cons are motivated to seek the same ends? Would American democracy, in your mind, have been “working” properly had republicans maintained their majority status in Congress?
And BTW HJ, you accused “liberal bigots” of an inability to argue facts with reasonable intelligence, but how is it that your little screed or jeremiad which begins “stupidass lib like levy” furthers any kind of reasoned debate. IMHO it is literally conservative closed minded bigots (often religious, possibly such as yourself) who believe in either the moral or religious superiority of everything they do that is the greatest threat to human existence for the simple reason that you believe dissent is tantamount to sin or a repudiation of your very limited personal and political ideology much like you believe in the misnomer of the “peaceful freedom loving exceptionalism and individuality of the American people. “
If your type of democracy and freedom means freedom to do whatever one wishes without thought or conscience as to the aggregate consequences of individual actions then you HJ are the quintessential American. Peaceful in your self indulgent me-first myopic vision of existence, that is until someone asks you to change behavior or to recognize the logical fallacies or inconsistencies of your vision, at which point violence, name calling, or xenophobic fear mongering is almost always the first of arrows drawn from you limited conflict resolution quiver.
I’m all for the great American experiment of the 21st century . . . All religious and economic conservatives should voluntarily move to the southern states and set up shop in whatever fashion they see fit. All progressives and reason driven Americans to every other part of the country. Then we can have a little competition (with no use of federal resources of any kind by either side) over who can create a more functional and working political, social and just economic society. The Northern/Coastal secularists v. Southern/Midwest neo-con Ayn Randian dominionists.
We could measure it using a median measure of GDP, the real median wage, access to education, health care, and pensions, transportation/housing infrastructure, pollution, life expectancy and infant mortality rates. Whichever side is objectively measured more modern and profitable is the winner. The losers either renounce their American citizenship and move or we carve out a part of the US as a new country and let the losers have it. Because the culture war raging in America is as serious as any external threat to our way of life. I and many others are getting truly tired of living next to and dealing with the superstitious mouth breathing knuckle draggers like HJ that won’t seem to die, believe the Armeggedon is imminent and should be hastened, and continue to spread their morally slimy worldview to the ignorant, apathetic and just plain misinformed masses.
Then again maybe that is the big fear of the neo-con establishment: ever allowing anyone to challenge the cultural status quo that relies on ignorance and inter-class division to keep us distracted from the atrocities being committed by the few against the many.
Posted by rrheard on Jan 2, 2007 at 4:51 PM enmbee, you are very selective in your condemnation of personal insults, try scorp, chicago cabbie, redhorse, luminous beauty, texas indepedent, major major and a few others. actually you are probably
levy writing here to plug your website. thanks, i’ll pass.
rr heard, though i’ve lived in honululu for many years i still have friends in sf and pelosi has been beating the war drums for a long time in regard to china, considering the total failure of the us to bring democracy anywhere i don’t want our govt officials even trying.
private citizens exposing china or usa or anyplace else i’m all for it.
my brief ref to levy comes from reading and listening ti stupidass libs
like him preach this democracy shit going back to wilson in ww1.
and no i’m not a neocon, thank you. if you have read my rebuttals just
to the bigots i listed in my first sentence above, you will see how far off base your ignorant comments are.
on the mideast and us foreign policy the party differences are quite small, was glad to see bush rebuffed but now let’s see what changes.
very little i’ll wager a bet. the rest of your pompous puffed up lecture you can blow it out your keister.
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 2, 2007 at 5:22 PM Pelosi beating the war drums against China . . . any proof or link to such a claim or is it just more of your masterful understanding and memory of the political and historical American scene I should be relying upon. I’m not sure that a self description of your posts as “rebuttals” is wholly accurate given your standard responses (like “blow it out your keister” or “ignorant comments” to anything posited with which you disagree).
I will say that I hope that you, like your many ill informed non-neo-con conservative “friends” in San Francisco (or however you would like to think of yourselves--libertarians maybe?) live out your days in ineffectual minority status and the rest of us misguided “progressives” have a chance to “reeducate” the American people and repair the externalities generated by your kooky belief that poverty, ignorance, injustice and class (the root causes of any fundamentalist ideology) are best eliminated by making sure everyone makes a poverty subsistence wage while the top 1% quickly bleeds this country of its economic strength and moral legitimacy through misguided foreign and domestic economic policy. Then again maybe you’ll just die a miserable and painfully slow death alone or possibly surrounded by those few “compassionate conservative realists” you call friends.
Posted by rrheard on Jan 2, 2007 at 7:17 PM jesus christ, you can do your own research, can’t you ? call up the sf bay guardian in sf and ask them about pelosi’s hawkishness over the years towards china, it’s not a state secret. most of her constituents are way to the left of her on the war, palestine, the patriot act, civil liberties, corporate financing, etc. the rest of your wordsalad i can’t make out, would advise you that shit belongs in a toilet so maybe you could spare us your public bowel movements in the future, your ASSumptions that i’m a neocon is the funniest thing i’ve yet read. your parody of the dozens of postings i’ve made here is as inaccurate as the rest of your assumptions and given your own hostile tone, BLOW IT OUT YOUR STINKY ASS ! that clear enough for you ?
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 2, 2007 at 7:53 PM Wow. Nancy Pelosi’s “hawkishness” includes wanting to hold China’s feet to the diplomatic fire for China’s policies including: human rights violations, forced abortions, taking political prisoners from Tiananmen and before, nuclear and chemical weapons proliferation, massive trade imbalances and intellectual property disputes. Well HJ I guess you are right. Standing up for these sorts of things “clearly” is the moral equivalent of “beating the war drums.” You got me again, I’m so clueless and stupid, how could I have not seen the world through your cash green cataraced lenses.
I will say this to you HJ: advising me that “shit belongs in the toilet so as to spare others of [my] bowel movements,” is truly representative of your cognitive disfunction. You wonder why no one but you takes you seriously. Barely educated and corrupted by the stench of unrepentent greed, you have very little of merit to contribute to any discussion here or elsewhere. You are truly the quintessential conservative American whether of the garden variety or the neo-con iteration.
Badmouthing Pelosi for standing up for other human being’s rights and believing that the international profit motive is the end all be all goal of human existence. As I’ve observed before your self-centered myopic world vision is morally bankrupt. You’ve convinced me HJ, what with your banal facile and childish insults about the bathroom, that you are a superior thinker and astute observer of the human condition.
Seems to me you were lecturing someone here the other day about “projection” and as that person responded so shall I: turn the eye of introspection upon yourself because you’ve got a lot of issues. Rest assured your insular stunted worldview will not prevail and you and your ilk will fade into the history books as a tragic and sad footnote to the American experiment. You really should consider Anne Coulter’s website as she is much more accomodating of the modern American whacko viewpoint.
Sad that people like you have the privilege of living in a stolen paradise like Hawaii or America for that matter. Maybe you will like my new Bush slogan for America: dissent and die but lie and spin with impunity, justice is for the few but preferably for the rich, and if we want the truth we’ll either torture it out of you or fire everyone until we find the yes men who tell us what we want to hear. AN example of the anti-empathy corporate governance of America brought to us by the men who never bootstrapped themselves up from anywhere except maybe an all night coke, whore, and gambling filled booze bender--miner, oilman, and rugged individualist style. The fate of this great nation is to quote a weak movie “in the hands of a bunch of retards I wouldn’t trust with a potato gun.” Maybe just like you HJ they were either adept at stealing and lying or maybe they were just born rich and are infected with the same lack of empathy you demonstrate here with each and every posting.
Posted by rrheard on Jan 2, 2007 at 9:03 PM rr, you take up a lot of space to say nothing. pelosi has been merely pandering to her chinatown constituents on this issue and has been going along with the ultimate neocon aim of war with china, the big enchilada as the weekly standard put it. if pelosi was in the least bit
concerned with human rights she would not be a 100% supporter of fascist israeli policies towards the palestinians but she is. check out her crazed speech to aipac last spring in dc. as i kindly told your lazy ass if you want to research her long chinaphobe policy you can do so, the record is not a state secret. unlike china we can actually do something about israel in palestine because we subsidize the whole shebang. do not confuse your pathetic little tush with the whole of this board and if you don’t take me seriously why do you spend so much attacking me in an ad hominem manner ? you know which one of your stinky orifices you can put your wordsalad up and as far as any inevitability of pwogwessive thought goes, we all know what happened to the last ideology that believed in historical inevitability. most of the dems elected are blue dogs and if you even try any real leftist crap you will be out in 08 and even nancypants knows that.
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 3, 2007 at 10:40 AM War with China? Seems a little unlikely given the amount of capital tied up in Chinese markets. Wouldn’t that be bad business for you Ayn Rand types? Also it seems a little unlikely, given your fallen hero W’s catastrophic blunders in the middle east, that anyone will be spoiling for a fight with China. What an astute observer of the political scene--"most dems elected were blue dog dems.” Interesting that you can pigeonhole the freshman before they’ve even had a chance to work or take a voting stand on the issues. As is typical you are living in your own little Weekly Standard MSM world of delusion.
As I said before you should really see somebody about your “anal fixation” which continues to rear its malodorous head in each of your little superior and poorly written screeds. And for the record, I only respond to you because I find it amusing to listen to the whacko viewpoint. Engaging you is futile because you’re certainly not capable of modifying your viewpoint on any subject. Typical armchair socioeconomic/political quarterback hack who likely never lifted a finger in public service for any reason other than to pad his own bank account or maybe kill some foreigners.
And for the record Mr. Dimbulb here is a little life lesson for you . . . you can’t take it with you and all the material possessions in the world aren’t making the world a better place. Transnational social and economic responsibility is not a naive worldview, it is the only possibility for the continued spread of modernity. The possibility of global American economic and cultural hegemony is a delusion just like it has been the delusion of every fallen empire that has ever existed on this planet. Do your own research and you’ll find that America isn’t as exceptional as dimbulb Americans like you tend to believe. It can easily be brought low through a dangerous mix of hubris and militarism just like any other foolhardy invader.
Posted by rrheard on Jan 4, 2007 at 3:30 PM If you think Bush is a fallen hero of mine or that I ever endorsed his war or his father’s war or Clinton’s sanctions you are insane. It’s true that the whack jobs over at the Ayn Rand Institute headed by a former Israeli Intelligence officer, Yaron Brook, have endorsed mass genocise against
Iran, all Arab states and most Muslims but you have to remember that they are about 80% Zionist Jews with a sprinkling of some exceptionally
dumb Anglo goys. Rand herself was not good on this issue but that is not an integral part of Objectivism.
I have never been called a neocon before and to accuse me of even reading The Weekly Standard, much less following its line, is astounding ! That’s a low blow, RR !
You keep accusing me of only caring about $$$ but you don’t know me and I take care of myself but am not obsessed with it.
I did some research on the incoming Dem freshmen and most are either Blue Dogs or DLC type New Dems. There are a few who joined the Progressive Caucus but not many. In fact, 22 of the 23 candidates that Rahm Emanuel of the DCCC funded were pro-war but thankfully only 9 won.
Sorry you don’t appreciate my humor but you can’t win them all.
Lessons from you on writing style is like hearing the town drunk lecture on sobriety. Thanks but I’ll pass.
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 4, 2007 at 4:52 PM Logical inference that you read the Weekly Standard given you quoted it above i.e. “ . . . the big enchilada as the weekly standard put it.” Another logical inference is that if you drop Ayn Rand and objectivism enough I’m going to lump you in with the kooks at the Ayn Rand institute and if your not concerned about “maximizing your economic potential” then how can you claim affiliation with Ayn Rand’s views? Lastly, I could care less what a bigot (refresher quotes from your past posts . . . “incompetent blacks, woman . . . japs . . . zionist wars . . . commie greens . . . BTW zionist/zionism really is at root really a euphemism for anti-semitism) says, does, or thinks because your opinion on any subject is intrinsically less valuable to me. Argue something without making stereotypical assumptions about people based on immutable traits and we can return to civil discourse otherwise you just another assclown in my book. As far as the blue dog label is concerned it is simply that: a label assigned by the MSM. Factually speaking only time will tell if the label fits given what they do over the course of their political careers.
Posted by rrheard on Jan 4, 2007 at 7:51 PM I read that the Weekly Standard voiced those sentiments on several occasions, I’ve never purchased the paper or even read it at the newstand and ONCE I went to their site. Other people have and I thank them for saving me the trouble.
Now for the final point here, I frankly do not care what you think about anything including myself. Generalizations are often correct too as well as being wrong. And I think you’re a priggish little zero. ZERO.
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 4, 2007 at 7:59 PM So now after you’ve criticized me for not doing my own research you admit that you quote what other people tell you. A second hand hack then would be a more accurate description of you. So who exactly is the intellectually lazy person in this dialogue, if it can be called that? As far as being a zero, coming from you, who cares. As I’ve made it abundantly clear, based on your opinions, anything you have to say is meritless and often backward. Thankfully America is a place that even welcomes idiots like you. Why don’t you try refuting the inferences I drew from you bigotted comments about minorities i.e. defend your racism. That might be good fun.
Posted by rrheard on Jan 4, 2007 at 8:30 PM in this particular instance I knew enough people who had read the weekly standard and from my own reading about it I was satisified that neocon was the appropriate label and that China is the ultimate neocon goal.
now, again, who gives a flying fuck what an imbecile like you thinks ?
for someone with the name of heard, you seem to be quite hard of hearing.
your opinion and two bucks will get you a ride on the Oahu Transit but be sure you have the two books.............................
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Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 5, 2007 at 10:14 AM ...black brother crap…
Africa is a total failure since independence. Colonialism will be returning and everyone will be better off.
Posted by blondemike on Dec 21, 2006 at 11:39 AM
What “toon” are you talking about? Are you trying to spell “coon”?
Posted by blondemike on Dec 26, 2006 at 11:03 AM
...Black To The Future bullcrap…
Posted by blondemike on Dec 26, 2006 at 2:32 PM
...they want to take Afro names, speak ebonics and dress like buffoons…
Shoot up, shoot out and drop out.
Thank god you all had all those good hearted Jewish people like my wife getting your rights for you. Otherwise, you’d still be in slavery.
I’d do the ebonic rap but I’m the REAL black here and yo’ a high yaller sissy.
Posted by blondemike on Dec 26, 2006 at 4:02 PM
...AfriKKKan nut…
Posted by blondemike on Dec 26, 2006 at 4:05 PM
...I never called you a coon or any other disparaging racial epithet…
Posted by blondemike on Dec 26, 2006 at 5:50 PM
Ergo…
...lumpen, criminal degenerate Mo Fo culture…
Posted by blondemike on Dec 27, 2006 at 1:09 PM
Africa is dying out and the only hope is that next time it can be repopulated with intelligent, sentient beings.
The CPUSA was a major sparkplug of the civil rights movement and Communists like Stanley Levison advised Dr. King every step of the way, not a bad thing, let’s give credit where credit’s due. I strongly advise you to curb the personal insults, bro. Your ignorant presumption is only exceeded by your utter arrogance.
Posted by blondemike on Dec 27, 2006 at 6:01 PM
...Black Commie Nationalist Gangbanging AIDS carrying, spear chucking black racists…
I’m actually the REAL black here and you’re a high yaller wannabbe black.
...stay away from Chicago though, [My wife] has warned me about Jewish psycho fascist men.
Posted by blondemike on Dec 27, 2006 at 7:05 PM
...any of us can visit any jail and see all the black folks we care to see for miles on end. what with crime and aids the black population is on the downswing. i don’t see where you people are the wave of the future except for continued championship in scatology, basketball and poverty. what is it that your group contributes to the country except crime?
Posted by hawaii jack on Dec 28, 2006 at 4:36 PM
...too many incompetent blacks and females.
...decisions like miranda freeing millions of black and latino criminals…
...crackhead blacks…
...26,000 black morons in the jacksonville, fla area…
...unthinking black dummies…
...a lot of those homo priests are black too. most black males do the down and low number…
Posted by hawaii jack on Dec 28, 2006 at 7:47 PM
Posted by Major Major on Jan 5, 2007 at 12:56 PM i noticed on an earlier posting you referred to the diaspora.....wonder where that comes from ? same people who got you the civil rights fraud, did all your free legal work and taught you how to use finger bowls and not fart loudly at lbj’s signing ceremonies......ever wonder why every group has leapfrogged over your peepul ? why when whitey was celebrating the moon landing, rev abernathy was leading the mule train at cape canaveral ? my ancestors were virginia gentlemen and they treated their slaves real well, it was like a socialist state, they fed, clothed, educated (well tried to) and took care of their health. the slaves liked it but it was hard to get an honest day’s work out of them, that’s why the south lost to the capitalist north. your people are headed back to a much worse kind of slavery this time. in baltimore over 70% of all black males between 14and 45 are in jail, prison, probation, parole or awaiting sentencing. and i’m worried about the other 30% because who’s keeping an eye on them. as an expert on black history i am very disturbed by the dim prognosis for your beloved peepul. we the noble white man have tried for 400 years to assist, enlighten, educate and uplift your peepul and we’re very disappointed in the results. you owe us reparations, you be getting a huge bill, please pay by return mail. thank you and god bless.
Posted by hawaii jack on Dec 29, 2006 at 10:35 AM
why is there so much homo activity in your community?
Posted by hawaii jack on Dec 29, 2006 at 10:40 AM
...you people have had 400 years of living in the greatest country on earth and yet any immigrant can come here and outshine your tribe…
Posted by hawaii jack on Dec 28, 2006 at 6:29 PM
...what’s a “toon"Â ? isn’t that japanese kiddie porn ? you don’t mean “coon"Â do you?
...coon hunting season…
Posted by hawaii jack on Dec 29, 2006 at 12:52 PM
...all the black leftists in this nation aren’t fit to lick the sweat off jefferson’s balls.
...coon…
...jigs…
Posted by hawaii jack on Dec 29, 2006 at 5:09 PM
...wordsalad…
Posted by hawaii jack on Dec 29, 2006 at 8:07 PM
Jack’s right, the story is a myth. Could give you refs but…
Posted by blondemike on Dec 31, 2006 at 6:00 PM
Nothing racist about telling the truth about the incredible black crime and sociopathology in America nor is it racist to give the good news that 4-5 million Jews popularly thought murdered weren’t. If someone hated blacks qua blacks or Jews qua Jews, THAT would be racist but I haven’t seen anything remotely like that here.
Posted by blondemike on Jan 1, 2007 at 3:16 PM
...you ain’t got a pot to piss or a window to throw it out of, they use the elevators for that at your project.
...black supremacists and jewish supremacists…
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 2, 2007 at 10:47 AM
All of the quotations cited above can be reviewed at the “Caracas Consensus” thread.
Posted by Major Major on Jan 5, 2007 at 12:57 PM After careful examination of the preceeding quotes I draw the conclusion that Jack, Mike, and Redhorse are the same individual.
Why are the white devils so angry?
Nancy Pelosi’s stand on China is the one position she has that I agree with.
Posted by texasindependent on Jan 5, 2007 at 8:42 PM Texass, redneck posing as a Hispanic. Tell your Mexican friends they can have Texas back.
Posted by blondemike on Jan 6, 2007 at 2:06 PM Don’t know Hawaii Jack but like most of his postings and Redhorse will
get a kick of being called a white devil ! Looks like the Major has totally flipped out.
Posted by blondemike on Jan 6, 2007 at 2:08 PM Interesting that when confronted with the direct evidence of his pathology Jack immediately falls into a simulcrum of narcolepsy.
Methinks projection is the least of his symptoms.
His reiterant use of the words ‘psychobabble’ and ‘wordsalad’ indicate a very likely tendency toward schizophrenia.
We shouldn’t be too hard on him, mental illness is a serious matter.
The sun shines brightly on the beach in Oahu this morning, sparkling the deep blue of the ocean’s infinite expanse like pixie dust. Calming and reassuring is the crunching give of the sand under one’s feet, and the lonely cries of seabirds from the cluster of palm trees above the tide-line.
How restful. How cleansing.
Much nicer than the rude and crude flatlands of Oaktown.
Posted by luminous beauty on Jan 6, 2007 at 2:34 PM Well, hello Mikey,
Nice to see you up and awake.
Posted by luminous beauty on Jan 6, 2007 at 2:43 PM His [Jack’s] reiterant use of the words ‘psychobabble’ and ‘wordsalad’ ...
Don’t forget pot, scrub thyself and Ayn Rand.
And the occasional slip with the right hand margin.Mike, you and Jack sure have a lot in common. Reminds me of Sifl and Olly.
I like Mike and Jack. Double the fun!
Posted by David in Canuckistan on Jan 6, 2007 at 7:33 PM What “evidence” LB ? All of Jack’s statements and all of mine are rational, politically incorrect, but rational. “Mental illness” is a bigger myth than the “holocaust” -----see Thomas S. Szasz alone, about 40 books and many essays, Breggin and others. I think the repeated use of psychobabble and wordsalad is justified after reading Redhorse, the Major, Chicago cab Driver, rr heard, Texass Independent and many others. You too on the Dawkins thread. Though you are much more rational on other threads.
Yes, I envy Jack living in Oahu.
Posted by blondemike on Jan 6, 2007 at 7:39 PM RRHeard
After some calculations regarding your hypothetical “ Liberal Union” and “Mouth breathing knuckle dragging union” I draw the following conclusions.Using California, Oregon, Washington, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut, Vermont, Rhode Island, and Maine as the basis for the Liberal Union. The “LU” population would be around 106,261,000
The total oil production for the LU is roughly 19.6 million gallons of oil a day( around a million barrels). The majority from California. The total oil usage for all sectors is 142.6 million gallons a day. Leaving a 123 million gallons a day deficit.
The total monthly electrical production for the LU is 173,274 megawatts. The total monthly demand is 446,548 megawatts. Leaving a deficit of 273,274 megawatts.
The total food production capability of the LU is less than 10 percent of the US total.
So the question becomes how will access to healthcare and education be measured in the dark? How will the GDP and median income fare without raw materials and fuel to transport them? How will hunger affect the life expectancy and infant mortality rates?
Posted by texasindependent on Jan 8, 2007 at 9:48 PM Texass, what are your references here ? Pull them out of your ass again ?
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 9, 2007 at 12:11 PM Ordo, what is this black nationalist anti-white rap ? We have heard this inevitability of history line before and you will notice that the great expositor of same, the Soviet Bloc, has long self-destructed. Ergo, with people of color nonsense. Ever take a look at the African continent ? No, thats not the wave of the future. Redhorse, my remarks have been aimed at a portion of the black population, the lumpen, criminal degenerate Mo Fo culture, not all blacks. As you well know. So what does your When will you stop beating your wife type questions have to do with anything ? Scorp is a simpleton like you, everything is all black or all white, stupid people cant deal in nuances. Your anger at me is precisely because you cant stereotype me in this one dimensional rightwing bag.
Posted by blondemike on Dec 27, 2006 at 1:09 PM on “The Spychopath Who Loved Me”
scorp, the few thousand killed by jihadists pale in comparison with the millions killed by US backed regimes OR the usa directly. war criminal gerald ford and war criminal kissinger gave indonesia the green light to invade east timor in 1975 killing one third (200,000) of the 600,000 population, equivalent to killing 100 million americans, the greatest proportional genocide in world history. and we have a holiday today to celbrate that dirty, genocidal piece of shit named gerald ford. ergo for lbj in 65 backing the rightist coup in indonesia which killed over a million people from 1965-68. spare us your selective indignation at atrocities, scorp. you phony asshole, you not only greatly exaggerate official enemy killings but totally underplay usa killings, oh they werent listed in your cia world fact book ? no one but an insane asshole like you would confuse the sandinistas with pol pot or allende with stalin. i wonder if the commies actually put you up to make the dumbest arguments for the right. the khrushchev quote is a fake, saw it at the time, it only meant economic rivalry. the soviets never used military or aggressive actions AGAINST cuba, dominican republic, nicaragua, chile. laos, guatemala, el salvador, ethiopia, vietnam, cambodia or mozambique. the USA did in all of those countries except mozambique and we backed the renamo killers there who did. only afghanistan is correctly on your list. ho chi minh is the george washington of vietnam and he never invaded south vietnam because there never was a real country of south vitnam, only a usa satrapy set up after geneva in 1954. ike refused to allow 56 elections because he knew ho would win as he admitted in his memoirs. USA killed 2-4 million in indochina, not the soviets. lb, mikey DID define an axiom, you are the one that apparently did not know what it meant if you reread the thread. you cant debunk an axiom as you claimed. there was no need to respond to your silly example because it involved the fallacy of the stolen concept, using something you claim to dispute as the basis for your alleged refutation. using reason to discredit reason. you confused axioms with postulates. as far as professional help goes, psychiatrys a fraud, you need help in learning basic linear reasoning, aristotelian logic.
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 2, 2007 at 12:41 PM on “The Caracas Consensus”
Posted by Major Major on Jan 10, 2007 at 5:24 PM I take it that you are the lowlife who attacked me on the Randzapper blog. When I briefly posted my comments on holocaust revisionism on the Barnes site you raised no objection or gave any semblance of an argument. Your whole approach is Hey,isn’t this outrageous that someone could doubt this holy truth. Several folks have and the uniform response in many countries is to imprison them. Here they can’t quite do that yet so smears are the only “argument” of the traditional defenders of the holohoax. Sometime check out the video of the Michael Shermer-Mark Webb debate and you can decide which side here has the facts. By the way wasn’t the “someone” on the oofy Barnes site who asked me about holocaust revisionism you ? Even Vad Vashem and the Wiesenthal Center don’t peddle the hoary human soap nonsense. Read Faurisson, Rudolph, Butz, Hoggan, Rassinier,Rassinier, Harwood, Sanning et al and seriously look at the many informative essays on the JHR part of the IHR website. If you can refute anything, let’s see it. Since NO one said Auschwitz or any other camp was a nice place you are inventing a strawman of your own making. The fact that I reamed some moron who voted for Bush in strong language is not a bad thing. I had stronger words for John Lewis at ARI. Michael, you are still haunted by The Silence Of The Laughs as I explained to you at site for popperian goofs. You are pathetic, you are a liar and you are a coward. Oakland News was a one person website of a local Demo Party hack and vulgarian named Jeanette Sherwin who was struck down dead a few months after she banned me. Gee, maybe Rand’s wrong about God. Good riddance was the majority view in Oakland of people of all ideological shades. She would ban people when she was losing the argument, a quite frequent occurrence. As far as some typos go, it happens and you wouldn’t even bring it up if we agreed. On abortion, I was relaying the substance of Rothbard’s argument in The Ethics of Liberty. Where’s the rebuttal ?
Posted by: Michael Hardesty | December 06, 2006 at 07:25 PM
http://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2006/11/draft_hor rses_no.html
Mike Hardesty said...
You might want to read the five page review on Amazon of Greg’s work by A Person. It’s pretty devastating. A Person also totally tears a new one for Scott Ryan’s Objectivism and Corruption of Rationality on Amazon. The main difference is that Scotty is much more pretentious and unreadable. Still can’t locate the identity of the character assassin who calls itself randzapper. I’d be ashamed to put my name to that garbage too.
12/11/2006 10:14:00 AM
Daniel Barnes said...
MH:
>You might want to read the five page review on Amazon of Greg’s work by A Person. It’s pretty devastating.Hardly. ‘A Person’ made a series of lengthy yet typically inane comments about ARCHN’s introduction, then declared that he was not going to bother to read the book!
>Still can’t locate the identity of the character assassin who calls itself randzapper. I’d be ashamed to put my name to that garbage too.
That’s rich coming from you, given your trolling on this site under a variety of assumed names.
12/11/2006 11:32:00 AM
Posted by Major Major on Jan 10, 2007 at 6:05 PM Michael Hardesty said...
randzapper doesn’t even use a pseudonym. And I had several people use my computer to respond to your silly stuff. So your wrong again. And unlike the coward randzapper people had the ability to respond to me or my friends, something that doesn’t exist on the zapper’s site. Quite a difference, Barnes. If you read A Person‘s review you can see he debunked the essence of it from reading the first 31 pages. Why waste more time like I did in reading the rest of the book ? Far from being “inane” A Person‘s comments are quite lucid & devastating as to the premise of ARCHN. It’s a vanity press operation anyway, they only print up a copy when you order, same as with Ryan’s book. Rand didn’t have to pay to get published and her works sell in the tens of millions, not in the low tens. I basically agree with Objectivism, beaver. I have problems with her statist politics though and even more more problems with the genocidal crazies who run ARI, SOLO, RoR, ad nauseum. Peikoff’s brilliance in his extensive audio history of western philosophy turns to rank neocon stupidity when he discusses politics.
12/11/2006 03:30:00 PM
Daniel Barnes said...
MH:
>And I had several people use my computer to respond to your silly stuff.Hilarious! I bust you posting random abuse under several assumed names - all of whom were highly complimentary about each others posts too - and this is your feeble excuse.
You were also trolling over under a false name at Rebirth of Reason until they sussed you out too. Tsk tsk. What a timewaster you are.
12/11/2006 04:02:00 PM
Michael Hardesty said...
I was only at RoR ONCE in the spring of this year and when they started censoring & deleting my posts after the resident warriors there lost the debate, I told them to remove my name from their list. They have routinely censored other people I’ve known and many I haven’t. So again your “facts” are wrong, no surprise. I only posted here again under my name. I invited several people to respond to you and they did with gusto. You never “busted” me, I frankly got tired of your tedious, boring rants. Finally, I never craved approval from anyone but merely commented on the salient fact that Rand’s great works do sell in the tens of millions and she does not have to pay to get published, she gets paid. Unlike some other folks we know.
12/11/2006 04:43:00 PM
Daniel Barnes said...
MH:
>I invited several people to respond to you and they did with gusto....Yes, several “people”, all using your computer. Unfortunately those people are all in your mind. Anyway, looks like Randzapper has all anyone need to know about this fellow:
“...Hardesty likes to barge in on newsgroups and other semi-civilized forums spouting his trademark brand of barely literate lunacy...”
http://randzapper.blogspot.com/2006/11/denial-aint-just-river-in-auschwitz.html
And don’t we know it. See ya, MH.
12/11/2006 06:16:00 PM
Posted by Major Major on Jan 10, 2007 at 6:06 PM Michael Hardesty said...
I’m part of a writing team, moron. When I write from here at work, there are lots of like minded people around. It’s a collective computer, doesn’t belong to any one person. And don’t we know that you are the little coward behind “randzapper” Danny boy ! Frankly I won’t be seeing you, after reading A Person I realize I never have to take you & the Nyquist-Ryan axis seriously.
12/12/2006 08:47:00 AM
Daniel Barnes said...
No, I know nothing about the Randzapper. He sure knows you tho...;-)
12/12/2006 09:42:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Jumpin’ Jesus on a Pogo-Cross! I thought the topic was Ayn Rand’s aesthetics? Restraint people! Focus! Ad hominem attacks only prove that you’re not serious about discussing the issue at hand.
12/12/2006 01:34:00 PM
Daniel Barnes said...
Anon:
>Ad hominem attacks only prove that you’re not serious about discussing the issue at hand.Hi Anon,
This thread is the exception rather than the rule. Michael Hardesty has been a troll on this site, and many others, posting under multiple sockpuppets and generally just being an abusive nuisance. He’s got quite a rep out there and has now shown up again like the proverbial bad penny. I’ve published his comments to date on this thread just to bend over backwards, as of course he will cry censorship (he always does). But henceforth he will be moderated until the unlikely event he says something worthwhile.
12/12/2006 01:59:00 PM
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Nobody cares, Private.
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 11, 2007 at 11:04 AM Has anyone seen major’s buttplug ? He can’t find it. It’s very large, brown and stinky as he has an asshole the size of a watermelon since he was paroled.
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 11, 2007 at 7:40 PM I care. Thanks for the information, Major.
Jack, what’s with the anal fixation in your comments of late?
Posted by David in Canuckistan on Jan 11, 2007 at 8:47 PM Why would you care what someone else wrote on another board ? And is taking selective portions out of context from other debates in the least relevant here ? Another attempt to smear the messenger in lieu of having any arguments to combat the message. Major is a moron, the
anal fixation comes because like rr heard, shitcago crabbie, redhorse, scorp, texass and a very few others here, the major major is a piece of smelly excrement. What the fuck is wrong with you, David, that you can’t recognize this ? Talk about hijacking a friggin board. This asshole “major major” has come up with one rational argument on this whole board. Like “barnes”
and others here he specializes in the personal smear. When he invokes my name I get pissed, I can reproduce all sorts of things from you and leave out the other side that you were responding to. Blondie can fend for himself. But this piece of lowlife shit Major is an agent provocateur who can present no thoughts at all but only ad hominems EXCLUSIVELY. I label him to be sure but for REASONS. Unlike many on this board. And why do we keep getting the same old shitasses here ????? I only come back now to RESPOND to some cretin’s attack, personally this is starting to bore the shit out of me. When the attacks cease I’m out of here. Nothing against ITT, they seem very fair. Only the half dozen nutcases I regularly seem to come across are the problem.
Posted by hawaii jack on Jan 12, 2007 at 11:54 AM Thanks, Jack. You sum it up well. Enjoy the beach ! I’ve had great fun today rebutting all the usual villains. Maybe we can a few more intelligent people on here.
Posted by blondemike on Jan 16, 2007 at 6:57 PM Smart cookie, that Chinese student. I wish more Chinese citizens were as skeptical as he is.
Correct me if ‘we’ are wrong, but Wasn’t Nancy Pelosi instrumental in ensuring that funding for George W. Bush’s criminal (in my view) war enterprise in Iraq continue uninterrupted - ‘after’ she made noises suggesting that she would do what she could to thwart the warmonger? My understanding is that defunding the ‘war’, which came to be within the power of resurgent Democrats, was a way for them to stop Bush et al in their tracks and that Pelosi and others had that in mind, or else led others to believe that.
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