The following transcript was adapted from “Witness to an Execution,” a radio documentary produced by Stacy Abramson and David Isay, which is included in the new book Writing for Their Lives: Death Row USA (University of Illinois Press), edited by Marie Mulvey-Roberts. “Witness to an Execution,” which was originally presented on “All Things Considered,” won a Peabody Award in 2000.… return to article
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Reader Comments (31)Page 1 of 1 pagesThese TexASS executioneers are murderers pure and simple. Why do so many total assholes come out of that state ? Three of our WORST Presidents, LBJ and both Bushes. Any doctor participating in this should have his license revoked and given a wet bag of feces right in his face. This is not self-defnse but coldblooded murder. That we are murdering murderers does make it any less a murder on our part. Thanks to the totally insane Christ Cult religion here we have more stupid reactionary retards than anyplace in the first world. This stems from that totally perverted Old Testament tribe which gave us the eye for an eye view and created the Christ Cult. If Christianity, Judaism and Islam could be wiped from the face of the earth by pushing a button, I’d push it PRONTO and very hard.
Posted by blondemike on Apr 16, 2007 at 10:21 AM What a dipshit. How do you manage to walk and breathe at the same time?
Posted by texasindependent on Apr 16, 2007 at 1:51 PM You have trouble walking and chewing bubble gum at the same time ?
Well, the dentist says you are not supposed to chew gum ! Just noticed I left an “e” out of defense towards the end of line three. My apologies.
TexASS, yo’ peepul figured out that flush handle toilet contraption yet ?
Posted by blondemike on Apr 16, 2007 at 3:05 PM Have you figured out that DVD player yet you old geezer?
Have your people figured out they are a minority yet?
We do not execute murderers. Any twit can kill their wife in a fit of passion or drive drunk and kill someone and get off with a few years in prison.
Texas executes criminals for specific crimes.“ murder of a public safety officer or firefighter; murder during the commission of kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, or obstruction or retaliation; murder for remuneration; murder during prison escape; murder of a correctional employee; murder by a state prison inmate who is serving a life sentence for any of five offenses (murder, capital murder, aggravated kidnapping, aggravated sexual assault, or aggravated robbery); multiple murders; murder of an individual under six years of age”
Dont commit any of these crimes Mikey and Texans won’t put your old dirty ass to sleep. Otherwise I have one finger pointed up for you and your Liberal bullshit.
Posted by texasindependent on Apr 16, 2007 at 8:29 PM Odd, I have the capital punishment piece on this page, with an article on independent-label music right beneath. Well, I always knew info tech was flawed; even a hyper-sophisticated gadget can’t count a billion bits of info every single second without making a mistake once in a while.
Speaking of flaws, TI, I have questions about capital punishment. Do you have any concern that, even with DNA testing and processes of appeal, sometimes the wrong person will be executed? No system is flawless, and we can’t exactly let a wrongly convicted person out of the grave the way we can let them out of a cell. It seems to me that the provision for capital punishment rests on a presumption of near-flawlessness in the way the legal system works, from the collection and interpretation of evidence all the way down to the last appeal. I’m sure you agree with me that the execution of an innocent person is an intolerable outcome, not to be minimized or left unaddressed.
On another note, I don’t feel that executing criminals does anything beneficial for the broad culture, neither legal nor social culture. I dislike the righteous-payback attitude it fosters in many, especially since its value as a deterrent of crime is questionable at best.
I can understand (and have experienced) the visceral need to strike back, to deal out a little hardcore retribution to truly heinous types. It would be especially hard not to want blood if someone I cared about was the victim. But I’m thinking the law, with its enormous power for good or evil (depending on how it’s shaped and used), ought to be as free from the baser human emotions as possible.
I notice also the restricted categories of crime that are potentially subject to capital punishment. I suspect that over the years, those categories have reduced in number, i.e. that a person could have been executed for a larger list of crimes in the past. If there’s been such a paring down (that is the case, no?), it suggests to me that the questionability of the practice has been on the minds of more Texan citizens and legislators over the passing years, such that there may have been pressures to sort of keep executions around while at the same time narrowing the “qualifications” for them, as though believing that executions needed to be reined in.
Do you know the details of that process of paring down?
I suppose it’s a “liberal” stance I’m taking. I’ve never understood how that term became such a pejorative, some of my attitudes are stereotypically “liberal”, but then I’ll get someone calling me “right wing” on other issues. But at the risk of conforming to a less-than-accurate “type”, I ask you these questions.
Posted by Kuya on Apr 17, 2007 at 5:06 AM The process was long and involved Kuya. As minorities gained political power and “race” relations changed the capital crimes list was reduced. Rape was once a capital offense. As was piracy....
Texas death row inmates have an average of 10.26 years before execution with multiple appeals and media attention if the convicted person is wrongly convicted they have time to prove it by DNA tests, ect.... Texas does have a larger burden of proof for capital crimes. You cannot be convicted of a capital crime without physical evidence or witnesses and the jury not the judge decides between life without parole or death after conviction.
Capital punishment is not retribution it is a deterrent. The person executed will never harm another innocent person again.
My town just sent our first person to Death Row in almost a hundred years. He killed a store clerk during a robbery and got away with 40 dollars and some cigarettes. The female clerk was a single mother of three children under the age of ten. The entire incident was caught on videotape and played during the trial. He beat her to death with a tire iron after she gave him the money. It took several minutes for her to die and it took multiple blows. He was found with the money in his pocket stained with her blood. The tire iron had his bloody fingerprints on it at the crime scene. No DNA neccessary. No flaws. No questions in my mind.
The convict that killed her will live for the next 10.26 years in climate controlled housing. Watch color TV. Eat three meals a day with free dental and medical care. Spend hundreds of thousands of my tax dollars on appeals and lawyers. And when those appeals are finished he will be taken to a room and be put to sleep. Not really justice but the best we can do I guess.
My only question is where was her appeal? Where was her panel of experts attempting to save her life? Where were her hippie protests when she died on the floor choking in her own blood? She was the victim not the animal that snuffed her life out without a second thought. She is dead he will be too. Let the dead bury the dead
Posted by texasindependent on Apr 17, 2007 at 9:08 AM TexASS’s whitewash of the mass murder system won’t due, the bottom line is that the state of Texas is engaged in coldblooded mass murder. They kill people to teach people that killing people is wrong. A person with an IQ higher than 48 could figure out the contradiction in that premise. The rest of our little beaner’s standard boilerplate about “hippies” and “leftists” is pure bullshit. Many conservatives and libertarians oppose the death penalty, all the civilized countries in western Europe and even most of Latin America have now abolished state murder. We are left in the camp of Iraq, Iran, China, Cuba and a few other barbaric dictatorships that retain state murder. The argument that it is a deterent has been proven false, the states with the death penalty are the ones with the highest murder rates. By TexASS’s crazed logic, we could prevent ALL crimes by killing every one ! All of TexASS’s “arguments” about color tv, hippies, air conditioning, leftists, length of appeals are NONSEQUITURS. Texass has had numerous people executed based on flawed witness testimony, which any cop will tell you is the most unreliable kind, terrible defense attorneys or public defenders who have hundreds of cases and who often do not have the resources to mount a decent defense, the judges in Texass ARE ELECTED POLITICAL HACKS WHO ARE SCARED TO CHALLENGE JURY VERDICTS FOR BEING AFRAID OF BEING CALLED SOFT ON CRIME BY MORONS LIKE TEXASS BEANER TACOCON. TexASS comes from the very violent Spanish and Indian cultures, his peepul on BOTH sides actually did commit real holocausts by burning people at the stake in Europe, around 30 million for witchcraft and other crimes, then probably double that over several centuries in Latin America. Unfortunately the Indian side, from which TexASS acquired his brown ass, was also very violent. But the good news is that even his violent peepul throughout Latin America and in Mother Spain have abolished tthe death penalty. The USA needs to join the civilized world. George W. Bush is the greatest mass murderer in American history but I still do not advocate killing him but only lifetime incarceration. By the way, TexASS, I never commit any crimes but have been the victim of crimes by the not so lovely people of coloreds. And yo’ peepul are right up there among the top criminals, check out the percentage of TexASS death row inmates with spanish surnames and then the number of blacks. Also TexASS only in Cal and Tex are we a minority, we are the MAJORITY in the USA as a whole and will be throughout your lifetime. Actually here in California at least 40% of the hispanics are as white as I am. They more resemble a Spanaird than a Guatemalan.
Posted by blondemike on Apr 17, 2007 at 9:47 AM We legally execute people who pose a danger to society even when locked behind bars. The opinions of obsolete California Liberals do not matter. The statistics for Texas death row inmates are.....
White 117 30.4 percent
Black 158 41.0 percent
Hispanic 106 27.5 percent
Other 4 1.0 percent
10 female 375 male
So a total of 385 people out of a prison population of 152,889 are awaiting execution. Are you offering to take them in Mikey?
Here is a link to TDCJ with details of each prisoner, crime commited, and details from 1927 to the present.
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/drowfacts.htm
Posted by texasindependent on Apr 17, 2007 at 9:11 PM They are NOT a “danger” to “society” locked behind bars, spare us your self-serving sources because TexASS is a state that MURDERS people in cold blood. TexASS is a barbaric shithole. What would be more relevant is to get the actual transcript of each dubious trial to see what kind of “defense” was even put up. Recently the Republican Governor of Illinois pardoned EVERY ONE on their death row because of numerous major errors and EVEN wrong convictions. TexASS is much more likely to be worse than Illinois in every respect. In California support for the death penalty goes down dramatically when people are asked if the condemned had no chance of parole would they still favor it and more than half said NO. So I don’t have to take them beanerass, you just to have to keep them locked up (assuming their guilt which may be a stretch in a place like TexASS’s “justice” system) and pay for them. Capice ?
Posted by blondemike on Apr 18, 2007 at 9:51 AM TI,
Please ignore the ravings of this board’s resident racist/misogynist/lunatic blowhard. (Why do these folks always write in one long block, as if they’re spewing invective in monotone without stopping to take a breath?) I count myself squarely in the liberal/progressive camp and consistently side against capital punishment in my political action, but I’m willing to have a rational conversation about it.
I am very sorry for the tragedy and violence visited on your community. My sympathy lies squarely with the young woman who was killed and her family. I wholeheartedly support any government program that provides support, financial and otherwise, for victims of violence.
I would hope that our goal is not to merely prevent the perpetrator from committing another crime (though that is important) but also to prevent or mitigate the occurance of violent crime at all. Study after study has linked violent crime to poverty. Therefore, in my estimation, one effective way to mitigate the amount of violent crime is to focus on eliminating poverty. So every time you hear about ‘hippie protests’ in favor of a higher minimum wage, or better health care for poor folks, or better quality education in urban centers, you’re hearing about a protest in favor of the victims of violent crimes.
Posted by Matt W on Apr 18, 2007 at 12:49 PM Matt, no one can make out your latest wordsalad. It might be time to put down the crack pipe though. Unfortunately you are incapable of good arguments against the death penalty or anything else. Trying to suck off the biggest anti-Arab and certified Army killer, that’s TexASSS, is the usual limpdick lib way. I just smash the wannable white boy in his stinky nuts and he understands that much better. Most crimes are not committed because of poverty because the great majority of poor people don’t commit crimes and raising the minimum wage so blacks can’t find work is not the way to attack poverty. Poor Matt, he be another braindead wighting wiberal pwogwessive..........so sad, little boy blue.
Posted by blondemike on Apr 18, 2007 at 4:35 PM Matt - thanks for writing. Addressing the underlying causes of violence will help, but not eliminate violence. It is ingrained in our DNA. While i am not in favor of violence, there are obviously people out there who are poster boys for the death penalty (McVeigh, Bundy, etc etc) and we have to deal with them in some fashion. I have no objections to giving them the death penalty as long as their guilt is conclusively proved (which seems to be a problem here in some parts of the south).
texasindependent you make a good case that Texas does a much better job than some other states (Alabama comes to mind here) in its capital cases.
There does seem to be a problem with these forums however. Seems over half the space is typically taken up by bizarre rants of some sort which i simply ignore. I only wish there was a way to hide that foolish text so as to not even have to notice it at all. . . Oh well, life on the Internet, where people can posture in the most silly ways.
Posted by wolf on Apr 20, 2007 at 8:05 AM Wolf, are you clinically insane ? I may have to revise my thesis on mental illness after reading your posting. TexASS does the worst job of any state in the country including the deep south of having a credible defense for the accused in capital crimes and the assembly like executions under Boy Moron Bush and his stooge Rick The Dickhead Perry stand as a monument to injustice. TexASS is a self-admitted US Army War Criminal and a self-hating Mexican who is in a perpetual rage because of white boy rejection. The objection to the death penalty is that it is coldblooded murder. By the way, a rant is defined as something that you disagree with. But if you want to make a contribution here then abstain from posting. As WTH just told lams712, you are enough to make me too change my mind on abortion. Yo’ mama should have gone for CHOICE.
Posted by blondemike on Apr 20, 2007 at 9:53 AM Wolf, Matt
No one enjoys capital punishment. Texas has decided that these 6 crimes are intolerable, and severe enough to warrant the harshest penalty available. We have just passed a law that will add a new offense. The first sexual assault of a child will get you 25 years. The second conviction will get you the death penalty. No more pedophiles like Mikey.The “causes” of crime are irrelavant. The same as the “causes” of terrorism have no bearing on the discussion of the actions of terrorists. The end result is the injury or death of innocent people. The end result is and should be the focus. Shifting focus indicates a lack of attention and only results in more loss.
Bad behavior must be punished to stop the continuation or spread of that behavior. Rewarding bad behavior with support of any form only serves to undermine the community as a whole. Many people were born poor and have never commited a crime. Using poverty, racism, or the actions of others is a handy excuse for personal failures and a lack of an internal locus of control.
The actions of these assholes will not be tolerated, and if they violate these six laws they have in effect attacked the entire community. As such we the community have the obligation to remove them from our society. “Locking them up” has little or no effect, life in prison is never “LIFE”. Even locked up they are a danger of escape, a danger to other inmates and staff.
The intrusion of other states opinions will not be tolerated. As Texans we are independent, believe in the tenth amendment, and take care of our own problems including criminals. If you don’t support the death penalty don’t commit crimes in Texas.
Posted by texasindependent on Apr 21, 2007 at 12:23 PM Three points:
1. Witness testimony has been proven to be astoundingly inaccurate and unreliable in general. Some witnesses are more capable than others, but “to err is human” is very apt in this regard. For this and other reasons, capital punishment must and does cause execution of people innocent of the crime that they are being put to death for. Clearly, this is murder. Ask yourself this: how would you like to be executed for a crime that you didn’t commit?
2. Essentially, I do not have a problem seeing the likes of Ted Bundy (for example) be put to death - clearly guilty, clearly beyond rehabilitation, and clearly extremely dangerous. However, in those cases where matters are not so cut and dried - where innocent people can be, and are, executed - well, if not executing innocent people means that the Bundy-esque simply stay behind bars for their entires lives, so be it.
3. George W. Bush has been responsible for many orders of magnitude more homicide (innocent men, women and children) than the worst serial killer. He and his subordinates need to be prosecuted for their crimes.
Posted by JusticeForAll on Apr 22, 2007 at 7:17 PM TexASS loves state murders, he has his favorite jackoff videos that he replays nightly while cornholing his seven year boy. Life in prison is ALWAYS life as enough people serving life terms can testify. TexASS is a genuine Nazi state and they have killed people for the sake of killing them. Four of the six “reasons” for state murder in Texass have been struck down by even the conservative US Supreme Court. TexASS used to execute juves and retards but the court said no. TexASS is a racist Maricon who tries to put on a tough act for the white boys. In Iraq he would bend over for a pack of cigs and the brass knew him as Deep Throat because of his extreme fellatonist activities.
Posted by blondemike on Apr 22, 2007 at 7:31 PM JusticeForAll - I agree with your point 2 you make above. However note that occasionally we release very dangerous criminals who then commit mayhem on other innocent people. While the state in cases like this is not directly responsible for murder, they do share some culpability.
texasindependent - for the death penalty to be a real deterrent it must be faster and more certain. For cases where guilt is absolute, i endorse this approach. For cases where we have *any* doubt, i think the death penalty should not be used at all.
Posted by wolf on Apr 23, 2007 at 8:48 AM Wolf, your ridiculous as usual and totally unable to think in principles.
TexASS has assembly line executions unlike California and TexASS has
a much serious crime rate than California in every major category.
Posted by blondemike on Apr 23, 2007 at 9:41 AM Wolf
The length of time is neccessary to eliminate any possibility of innocence. As this is the most severe penalty possible we as a society can impose it should never be swift or sure. We should be examining the cases until the last possible moment. Doubt is critical to the entire process. The ten years or so it takes allows all possible appeals and examination by multiple courts. This keeps innocent people off of death row and negates any arguments about “executing innocent people”.Mikey is full of shit as usual.
For Violent Crime Texas had a reported incident rate of 545.1 per 100,000 people. This ranked the state as having the 13th highest occurrence for Violent Crime among the states
For Violent Crime California had a reported incident rate of 621.6 per 100,000 people. This ranked the state as having the 9th highest occurrence for Violent Crime among the states
Also in the year 2000 Texas had 5.9 Murders per 100,000 people, ranking the state as having the 17th highest rate for Murder
Also in the year 2000 California had 6.1 Murders per 100,000 people, ranking the state as having the 16th highest rate for Murder.
California’s . The state also had 408.7 Aggravated Assaults for every 100,000 people, which indexed the state as having the 9th highest position for this crime among the states.
Texas also had 356.3 Aggravated Assaults for every 100,000 people, which indexed the state as having the 13th highest position
One factor to consider is the surplus of morons inhabiting The People’s Republic of California. These idiots don’t want to harsh each others buzz and actually reporting crime might do that.
Mikey you don’t know shit. You are a crank.
Posted by texasindependent on Apr 23, 2007 at 11:04 AM texasindependent - while i agree justice should not be rushed - especially in capital cases - i also assert that there are times when guilt is known absolutely. Bundy comes immediately to mind, as does McVeigh. Cases like theirs should be expedited through the system. Cases where guilt is harder to prove absolutely (Peterson comes to mind) should not result in the death penalty at all, imho.
Given how bizarre some posters apparently are, i wonder why anyone would even *read* their posts, much less respond to same. Again, just imho.
Posted by wolf on Apr 23, 2007 at 11:24 AM He told you to put up or shut up, Maricon.
Using 7 year old crime stats during a time
when there was a nationwide decrease doesn’t
fool anyone. We have high crime here in Maryland
too and a very disproportionate share by the greasers
here. Blacks are ought of sight but you expect that.
Texas is a very crime-ridden state. Mostly greasers
and then blacks, then poor whites. Remember how
the greasers turned San Antonio into a craphole when
I was stationed there. Austin was so much cleaner then.
Texas culture has some reactionary components,
the white trash part represented by W, the greaser
belt represented by TI, the urban black lumpen in
Dallas & Houston. There is a progressive part of
Texas around Johnson City and Austin, largely
German Americans whose ancestors backed the
Union. LBJ was representative of this better bunch.
No one denies that Texas as a whole is ugly, the
armpit of the country. Brown trash, black trash,
white trash. No Mexican ever flushes a toilet on
principle. I mean you will really lose your lunch if
you visit one of their houses. Illinois found plenty
of innocent people on death row and they have much
more safeguards than Texas so any reasonable
person would have to assume that Texas has many
more innocent people on death row. The GOP
gov in Illinois pardoned all death row inmates.
The Federal Court should do that in Texas.
As Molly Ivins documented the state legislature
in Texas is the biggest bunch of morons of any
state in the union. TI is somewhat representative
of the white trash element in Texas.
Posted by bostonblackie on Apr 23, 2007 at 11:26 AM Related news…
Study: Lethal Injection Method Flawed
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/04/24/ap3643247.html
Many will say they don’t care, but there’s no doubt it’s part of the debate.
Posted by Kuya on Apr 24, 2007 at 2:27 AM Capital punishment is wrong period.
Ignore the slimey taco bender.
Posted by bostonblackie on Apr 24, 2007 at 9:29 AM Lethal injection would be among my last choice, if i had to choose.
One might think that cruel and unusual crimes deserve cruel and unusual punishments. While i am sympathetic to such views, i prefer simply ending such peoples lives as we would a rabid or feeble dog - with no animosity and with certainty.
Posted by wolf on Apr 24, 2007 at 9:43 AM The “suffering” of convicted criminals has little or no effect on me. These people made the choices that brought them to this point.
Russians never tell inmates the date of execution. You walk out your cell one day and get shot in the back of the head. Fair, quick, and no “suffering” . Of course the Left would freak out.
Posted by texasindependent on Apr 24, 2007 at 2:54 PM No one else’s suffering has any effect on you
because you are a certified psychopath. You
love Soviet lies from what I gathered on another
thread. Even allowing for the horrible choice these
people made that does not give us the right to kill
them in cold blood. Every civilized country has abolished
the death penalty. Let’s join their ranks. EVEN Mexico !
Posted by bostonblackie on Apr 24, 2007 at 3:15 PM I do find it strange that people who demand euthanasia and abortion scream the loudest over capital punishment.
Somehow destroying the elderly and fetuses is normal and healthy but executing convicted criminals is wrong....Any progressives want to field that observation.........
Posted by texasindependent on Apr 25, 2007 at 10:14 AM Abortion is fine, your folks had one
after all. I don’t know anyone for euthanasia
so you are flogging a dead horse here.
There are people who oppose all three
but I guess Hannity forgot to mention that.
Have you EVER had an original thought in
your life ? I noticed your particular ethnic
group seems very fond of “gated” communities.
Posted by bostonblackie on Apr 25, 2007 at 12:05 PM Hi, y’all!
I’ve been away for a few days--exams! Lord Almighty!
May I offer an opinion?
The idea of taking human life should be repulsive to a rational person. Yet ,taking human life is sometimes necessary. If this must be done, then the most stringent measures of clarification need to be used, as the effect is irreversible.
Look on the web for the site pertaining to the West Memphis Three. Better yet, watch the video. The documentary presents a nearly comprehensive list of everything wrong with our justice system. Here is a partial list.
- non-credible witnesses being allowed to testify
- witnesses being allowed to testify when it is known that the testimony is false and such perjurous testimony is still accepted into evidence.
- police admit to losing blood evidence
- suspects make confessions for which there is only a partial record of the testimony. The subject was interrogated for over eight hours, only the last hour was recorded.
-cursory forensic examination of the victims(a bite mark was overlooked)
-an occult expert is given credence despite the fact that he received his master’s and doctorate degrees from a mail- order college.blondemike/bostonblackie, that one should make your blood boil! How long was your thesis? How long was your dissertation?
-credible experts are discredited because of their rates to appear in court.
- a confession was coerced from a subject who had an IQ of 72
- the “murder weapon” was pulled from a public lake seven months after the murders.How long had it been there? Who can say?
-the disposal scene is counted as the murder scene even though there is no blood evidence there. Three people stabbed to death and there is no blood at all at the site, and it hadn’t rained before the bodies were found?Human being hold five pints of blood. To exsanguinate requires a loss of forty percent or more. do the math,my duckilngs,there should have been AT LEAST a gallon and a half of blood at the murder site.This is one case. I’m sure it isn’t an anomaly, and it’s why i’m against the death penalty.
How about the cruelty of each punishment when it’s done wrong?
HANGING:slow suffocation
FIRING SQUAD:slow,painful bleeding to death
GAS CHAMBER: even when done right, this one is atrocious. The hydrocyanic gas forms a lining over the villi in the lungs preventing oxygen from being absorbed when inhaled. rather like filling a cup with a large hole in the bottom that grows as more water is poured in. Death can take up to half an hour.Subjects cry during the process. sometimes they scream. I wonder just how vengeful one would be to sit and watch that kind of slow death? Besides, given the nature of the method of this form of execution, it is an accident waitng, if not hoping, to happen.
LETHAL INJECTION: if the subject is not given enough sodium pentathol when the potassium chloride is injected, he goes through unbearable agony The paralytic agent pavulon prevents one from seeing this ,though.I’m pro-life. I’m against execution and abortion. However, my stand on abortion is my choice and mine alone. Y’all make your own choices.
Ti, I’m dreadfully sorry for the misery that befell your town. The man who did that was an absolute beast. However, killing him won’t make any more difference than locking him away for life--and I mean until the very day he dies. If we must sentence him to a millenium to ensure that. so be it.Execution is retribution,like you’ve said TI. However,I was always under the impression that we were better, more civilised than our criminals. I believe the term is merciful.
I’ve never lost anyone to violent crime, so i can’t truly speak on the subject. Just like men can’t really speak about what it’s like to end a pregnancy.Still,we must realize that death is, from our perspective, the end. If we are to kill another, let certainty be our priority.
Ta-Ta!
Posted by Aunty Rightwing on May 7, 2007 at 11:20 PM P.S.
TI,
One more thing.Please understand that if this liberal had walked into the store during this crime, your death row inmate would have found out what hollowpoints taste like.I may not be for execution,but I do believe in using lethal force to prevent a violent crime.
Posted by Aunty Rightwing on May 7, 2007 at 11:33 PM I prefer the .45 myself but I am a traditionalist.
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