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The real problem is that the foolish Gazians have elected and apparently support a terrorist government. The fact that this travesty brings them great suffering is sad, but easily predictable. The solution is for them to declare peace, even if it means that Israel will not be driven into the sea.
Posted by wolf on Feb 5, 2008 at 12:40 PM
It is with disgust that I notice the cultish response from Wolf on the plight of Gazans. Hamas was legitimately elected by the Palestinian people, which process was denied/ignored by the Palestinians’ Israeli/American overlords. Hamas has continued to offer peace deals with the Israeli leadership, only to be ignored.
The present Gaza was strategically constructed as a giant Warsaw-type ghetto, and the strategy has worked brilliantly.
Meanwhile Abbas plays the Quisling to perfection, as was his deemed role.
The closest parallel to this ethnic cleansing is of course the Nazi regime.
Israel’s criminality shames the Jewish people (whose faith schools continue to propagate a ‘love of Israel’), and shames civilised people everywhere.
Posted by evanj on Feb 8, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Yeah the Nazi party was legitimately picked by the Germans and offered a number of peace deals as well. The biggest difference was that the Nazis actually were powerful whereas Hamas is at best impotent and unable to control its own population. Until a government is established in Gaza that can control its home grown crazies, the violence will continue.
For laughs, imagine how kindly the US would act if Mexicans began lobbing bombs into Texas, with the “legitimate” claim that Texas really belongs to Mexico. Even without this craziness walls are being built. . .
Posted by wolf on Feb 10, 2008 at 8:29 AM
The protagonists of Nazi ethnic cleansing had much de facto support in the West but they did not get access to the media.
By contrast, the amoral flunkies who fall into line to defend Israeli criminality get unfettered access.
That Wolf can feel no shame that his tribalism has overwhelmed his intelligence and his humanity we have come to understand - this is a socialisation process of profound depth and strength.
That the media should lower itself to give these people opportunity to display the effects of their pathology is something that all media outelts that value their own integrity should start to re-evaluate.
The violence of course will continue for as long as the home grown crazies that run the Israeli state, underpinned by the truly loopy crazies that populate the settlements in occupited territory, learn nothing from their base inhumanity. And of course, after sixty years, the prospect is that the violence will continue indefinitely, because no external power has the guts to confront this evil.
Posted by evanj on Feb 12, 2008 at 12:22 AM
If all else fails, perhaps Germany can implement a final solution to the problem.
Posted by wolf on Feb 12, 2008 at 8:03 AM
As a conscious party to ethnic cleansing, you demean yourself, you demean jewry sui generis, you insult jews appalled by the Israeli state’s criminality (a state born and nourished on blood, run by a succession of gangsters, with only a couple of honourable exceptions) and, in particular, dissident Jewish Israelis (Neve Gordon, Exhibit A).
You demean this site.
Wolf, it’s time to go and hide under a rock.
Posted by evanj on Feb 13, 2008 at 12:17 AM
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The real problem is that the foolish Gazians have elected and apparently support a terrorist government. The fact that this travesty brings them great suffering is sad, but easily predictable. The solution is for them to declare peace, even if it means that Israel will not be driven into the sea.
It is with disgust that I notice the cultish response from Wolf on the plight of Gazans. Hamas was legitimately elected by the Palestinian people, which process was denied/ignored by the Palestinians’ Israeli/American overlords. Hamas has continued to offer peace deals with the Israeli leadership, only to be ignored.
The present Gaza was strategically constructed as a giant Warsaw-type ghetto, and the strategy has worked brilliantly.
Meanwhile Abbas plays the Quisling to perfection, as was his deemed role.
The closest parallel to this ethnic cleansing is of course the Nazi regime.
Israel’s criminality shames the Jewish people (whose faith schools continue to propagate a ‘love of Israel’), and shames civilised people everywhere.
Yeah the Nazi party was legitimately picked by the Germans and offered a number of peace deals as well. The biggest difference was that the Nazis actually were powerful whereas Hamas is at best impotent and unable to control its own population. Until a government is established in Gaza that can control its home grown crazies, the violence will continue.
For laughs, imagine how kindly the US would act if Mexicans began lobbing bombs into Texas, with the “legitimate” claim that Texas really belongs to Mexico. Even without this craziness walls are being built. . .
The protagonists of Nazi ethnic cleansing had much de facto support in the West but they did not get access to the media.
By contrast, the amoral flunkies who fall into line to defend Israeli criminality get unfettered access.
That Wolf can feel no shame that his tribalism has overwhelmed his intelligence and his humanity we have come to understand - this is a socialisation process of profound depth and strength.
That the media should lower itself to give these people opportunity to display the effects of their pathology is something that all media outelts that value their own integrity should start to re-evaluate.
The violence of course will continue for as long as the home grown crazies that run the Israeli state, underpinned by the truly loopy crazies that populate the settlements in occupited territory, learn nothing from their base inhumanity. And of course, after sixty years, the prospect is that the violence will continue indefinitely, because no external power has the guts to confront this evil.
If all else fails, perhaps Germany can implement a final solution to the problem.
As a conscious party to ethnic cleansing, you demean yourself, you demean jewry sui generis, you insult jews appalled by the Israeli state’s criminality (a state born and nourished on blood, run by a succession of gangsters, with only a couple of honourable exceptions) and, in particular, dissident Jewish Israelis (Neve Gordon, Exhibit A).
You demean this site.
Wolf, it’s time to go and hide under a rock.
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