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Whoa, over half the country is against everything you think should be shoved down the politicians throats. Only about 30% of the country is looking for the change you talk about. The change most of us were looking for is a new politics of honesty and integrity. The change you are talking about is coercion by a radical minority. Sounds like a sick society you propose.
Posted by Dominic J. Melfi on Dec 28, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Is this quote for real:
“the tea party protestors angrily snarling at minorities and the uninsured.”
What tea party protesters are you talking about? I saw good Americans protesting against the asinine policies coming out of Washington. It had nothing to do with “minorities and the uninsured”. Anyway, I thought dissent was the highest form of patriotism. I guess that’s only when the libs are out of power. You guys are total hypocrites. The public is not buying what you libs are trying to sell. It’s time you guys realize that,and stop trying to turn America into Europe.
Posted by bellagrazi on Dec 28, 2009 at 11:26 AM
The Democrats and Republicans all need replacing. You must have overdosed on the Kool-Aid if you actually believe the drivel that passes for political discourse these days.
Politicians are totally into covering each others butts, and only think about the public when they’re looking for votes. The clear majority, including those of you who voted for Obama and those of you who didn’t don’t want this bill.
Amazing that the only people who do want it are politicians and fascists. And before you get irate about using the word fascist, look it up. Fascists advocate a single party system, and believe the public is incapable of governing itself or making decisions for itself.
The politicians trade sides depending on who is in power, and complain about the same tactics they used last time. Sounds like two wings of the same party.
As for your snarling angry tea-baggers, you’re confusing us with SEIU. We never beat up on anyone at a rally. Too bad your union thugs can’t say the same thing.
We fought a revolution 233 years ago because we were being treated like our own government treats us today. This time it will be votes, not bullets, but the result will be the same.
Posted by Jack Sotallaro on Dec 28, 2009 at 3:19 PM
President Obama didn’t let us down—we let him down. I remember Obama stressing (during his campaign) that he “can’t do this alone.” He has been very consistent about this—there can be no change unless we get out of our chairs, out the door and make it happen. We’re still sitting, waiting for Obama to “do something.” Change doesn’t just happen, folks.
An occasional march in Washington, sponsored by organizations, is nice enough, but think: Most of us can’t afford bus fare (much less plane fare) and housing for such events. We HAVE to do what was done in the past—find ways to do it with very little money. Pool our resources, load people into cars, pitch in what we can and bring in those who have passion and knowledge but no money
Also, civil obedience isn’t working. Change can’t be forced (and it will take force!) by purchasing permits, politely remaining in the (out-of-the-way) designated protest zones—no signs! No microphones! Don’t litter, and leave the area by 8 p.m. Right. Protest all you want, but be polite and obedient. The media will ignore you, so the only one hearing your message is you. While you’re doing this, try to think of a time in our history when the corporate and political powers EVER made any changes or concessions without being forced to do so.
Posted by dhfabian on Dec 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM
I along with millions of others voted for Obama after enduring 8 years of neo-fascism from Bush. We truly expected major changes in labor relations, accessibility to healthcare, cleaning up the environment, restoring our Constitution, holding Bush/Cheney accountable for their crimes, but alas we’ve seen nothing even remotely close to this.
Yes, Obama cannot do it alone. Especially if he prefers to listen to the lobbyists from the corporatists who have destroyed this great nation!
Right wingers and so-called liberals alike rant and rave about the “failure” of socialism, yet cannot show one good thing that capitalism has done for the majority of the U.S.!
Redbaiting, collusion with corporate lobbyists, out and out betrayal of the people is all I have seen in this so-called Change!
I agree with you 100 percent. Obama of today is not the Obame I voted for in 2008. He has proven himself to be a skilled politician—telling the masses what they want to hear, wearing a thin veil of progress and all the time working the Washington machine like a pro. He brought up health-care reform and then dissappeared. He did not aggresively advocate for it like he did for his candidacy. If he had brought the same fervor to the issue as he did when campaigning we would have the public option on the table at the VERY least. We don’t even have that. If he doesn’t shape up in the next three years, he won’t have another four.
Posted by alicam on Jan 2, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Obama says what he thinks people want to hear (example: his West Point speech
Posted by whattheheck on Jan 3, 2010 at 9:40 AM
Obma was nothing if not clear about his views. Skyrocketing fuel and electricity cost were part of his plan, and he admitted it. His affiliation with corrupt politicians, radicals, and union thugs was public knowledge, yet a majority voted for him.
Did you really expect he would take campaign promises seriously? He’s even stiffed SEIU, and Andy Stern isn’t happy.
The imperial Obama cares only for his socialist agenda, not for you or anything you need unless you’re part of his cabal.
To those of you who actually voted for Obama, how’s that hope and change working for you?
Posted by Jack Sotallaro on Jan 3, 2010 at 1:39 PM
Most people who vote are interested in what’s popular at the moment- as with fashion, music, sports teams etc.
They have little interest in learning about the issues at hand and having substantive debates about them.
Obama was the mainstream media’s rock star. People bought into his message because they were seduced by ignorance, while being entertained by someone vastly different in myriad ways from the previous president.
Many of the Obama voters who now seem disenchanted with his administration so far obviously didn’t take the time to think about how his far-reaching spending plans would be paid for. Nor did they ask the tough questions about what would happen with the war in Afghanistan.
The Barack Obama administration does not have the answers for what ails the patient, not by a longshot.
Posted by patrick hattman on Jan 7, 2010 at 1:31 PM
I do not think that President is a “skilled politician’. There is nothing skilled about being a liar, a traitor.
Socialist ideas? Please! We should be so lucky if he was indeed a socialist! He is a corporatist through and through as are most of the democrats in Congress today. They have no REAL connection to the needs of the people, only their own selfish addiction for power, money, etc
Barack Obama has proven the theory that the color of a man’s skin mean’s nothing, if his class interests are not in tune with the needs of the people!
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Whoa, over half the country is against everything you think should be shoved down the politicians throats. Only about 30% of the country is looking for the change you talk about. The change most of us were looking for is a new politics of honesty and integrity. The change you are talking about is coercion by a radical minority. Sounds like a sick society you propose.
Is this quote for real:
“the tea party protestors angrily snarling at minorities and the uninsured.”
What tea party protesters are you talking about? I saw good Americans protesting against the asinine policies coming out of Washington. It had nothing to do with “minorities and the uninsured”. Anyway, I thought dissent was the highest form of patriotism. I guess that’s only when the libs are out of power. You guys are total hypocrites. The public is not buying what you libs are trying to sell. It’s time you guys realize that,and stop trying to turn America into Europe.
The Democrats and Republicans all need replacing. You must have overdosed on the Kool-Aid if you actually believe the drivel that passes for political discourse these days.
Politicians are totally into covering each others butts, and only think about the public when they’re looking for votes. The clear majority, including those of you who voted for Obama and those of you who didn’t don’t want this bill.
Amazing that the only people who do want it are politicians and fascists. And before you get irate about using the word fascist, look it up. Fascists advocate a single party system, and believe the public is incapable of governing itself or making decisions for itself.
The politicians trade sides depending on who is in power, and complain about the same tactics they used last time. Sounds like two wings of the same party.
As for your snarling angry tea-baggers, you’re confusing us with SEIU. We never beat up on anyone at a rally. Too bad your union thugs can’t say the same thing.
We fought a revolution 233 years ago because we were being treated like our own government treats us today. This time it will be votes, not bullets, but the result will be the same.
President Obama didn’t let us down—we let him down. I remember Obama stressing (during his campaign) that he “can’t do this alone.” He has been very consistent about this—there can be no change unless we get out of our chairs, out the door and make it happen. We’re still sitting, waiting for Obama to “do something.” Change doesn’t just happen, folks.
An occasional march in Washington, sponsored by organizations, is nice enough, but think: Most of us can’t afford bus fare (much less plane fare) and housing for such events. We HAVE to do what was done in the past—find ways to do it with very little money. Pool our resources, load people into cars, pitch in what we can and bring in those who have passion and knowledge but no money
Also, civil obedience isn’t working. Change can’t be forced (and it will take force!) by purchasing permits, politely remaining in the (out-of-the-way) designated protest zones—no signs! No microphones! Don’t litter, and leave the area by 8 p.m. Right. Protest all you want, but be polite and obedient. The media will ignore you, so the only one hearing your message is you. While you’re doing this, try to think of a time in our history when the corporate and political powers EVER made any changes or concessions without being forced to do so.
I along with millions of others voted for Obama after enduring 8 years of neo-fascism from Bush. We truly expected major changes in labor relations, accessibility to healthcare, cleaning up the environment, restoring our Constitution, holding Bush/Cheney accountable for their crimes, but alas we’ve seen nothing even remotely close to this.
Yes, Obama cannot do it alone. Especially if he prefers to listen to the lobbyists from the corporatists who have destroyed this great nation!
Right wingers and so-called liberals alike rant and rave about the “failure” of socialism, yet cannot show one good thing that capitalism has done for the majority of the U.S.!
Redbaiting, collusion with corporate lobbyists, out and out betrayal of the people is all I have seen in this so-called Change!
I agree with you 100 percent. Obama of today is not the Obame I voted for in 2008. He has proven himself to be a skilled politician—telling the masses what they want to hear, wearing a thin veil of progress and all the time working the Washington machine like a pro. He brought up health-care reform and then dissappeared. He did not aggresively advocate for it like he did for his candidacy. If he had brought the same fervor to the issue as he did when campaigning we would have the public option on the table at the VERY least. We don’t even have that. If he doesn’t shape up in the next three years, he won’t have another four.
Obama says what he thinks people want to hear (example: his West Point speech
Obma was nothing if not clear about his views. Skyrocketing fuel and electricity cost were part of his plan, and he admitted it. His affiliation with corrupt politicians, radicals, and union thugs was public knowledge, yet a majority voted for him.
Did you really expect he would take campaign promises seriously? He’s even stiffed SEIU, and Andy Stern isn’t happy.
The imperial Obama cares only for his socialist agenda, not for you or anything you need unless you’re part of his cabal.
To those of you who actually voted for Obama, how’s that hope and change working for you?
Most people who vote are interested in what’s popular at the moment- as with fashion, music, sports teams etc.
They have little interest in learning about the issues at hand and having substantive debates about them.
Obama was the mainstream media’s rock star. People bought into his message because they were seduced by ignorance, while being entertained by someone vastly different in myriad ways from the previous president.
Many of the Obama voters who now seem disenchanted with his administration so far obviously didn’t take the time to think about how his far-reaching spending plans would be paid for. Nor did they ask the tough questions about what would happen with the war in Afghanistan.
The Barack Obama administration does not have the answers for what ails the patient, not by a longshot.
I do not think that President is a “skilled politician’. There is nothing skilled about being a liar, a traitor.
Socialist ideas? Please! We should be so lucky if he was indeed a socialist! He is a corporatist through and through as are most of the democrats in Congress today. They have no REAL connection to the needs of the people, only their own selfish addiction for power, money, etc
Barack Obama has proven the theory that the color of a man’s skin mean’s nothing, if his class interests are not in tune with the needs of the people!
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