In the weeks leading up to the war on Iraq, TV screens across America were crowded with images of U.S. soldiers readying for upcoming battles with a crazed dictator who would stop at nothing. One clip after another showed U.S. soldiers racing to don $211 suits designed to protect them from the chemical and biological attacks they would surely suffer… return to article
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Reader Comments (47)Page 1 of 1 pagesAs the father of an active duty serviceman that spent time in Kuwait during the recent 2nd Gulf War on Iraq I have grave concerns about the use of depleted uranium in our weaponry. There is no doubt in my mind that exhaustive studies need to be done to accurately answer any questions about the risks posed by the use of these munitions. People, especially, people with loved ones in the military (or anyone concerned about the American serviceman or even more broadly, concerned about the humaneness of using such weapons on a declared enemy) should be contacting their political representatives to demand that such studies be begun immediately.
Posted by Fado on Jun 20, 2003 at 4:06 PM I am VERY frustrated by this depleted uranium issue. It is so obvious that our supposedly “democratic” government is feeding us propoganda that is worse than that of the dictators we call evil, but we are powerless to do anything about it. This is the best modern day example of how our nation has lost it’s freedom and gets closer and closer to being a facist state every day. “And it’s one, two, three, what are we fighting for"… surely it’s not for freedom anymore. Freedom is just the word our nation hides behind, as it takes more and more freedom away from us through the years. It seems like there are two options, do nothing or have a revolution. Neither one is a good option. Working at it democratically isn’t an option anymore because of the uncheckable power we have given the current administration. We’ve made it impossible to call our “leaders” to account.
Posted by Doug Graham on Jun 20, 2003 at 7:17 PM I’d like to recommend a book entitled ALL ABOUT RADIATION, written during the Cold War.
Posted by Robin Adair on Jun 21, 2003 at 12:40 AM If you reprint my comment, please remove my l ast name.
I think the story is good, but like a lot of your stories, too long. I do not sit at a computer screen all day like some, i imagine, do. I look for specific things. I am busy, and really the story could be shorter. We got the picture, too much stuff just gets it a bit too much and we have a tendency to not want to read n ew stories.
Posted by arnie wolman on Jun 21, 2003 at 6:55 PM Don’t make the news stories shorter… just give the news. ALL of it. Thank you
Posted by vlcandy on Jun 22, 2003 at 3:01 AM Thank you for the fine article, Frida. Traprock Peace Center is organizing a national tour on ‘depleted’ uranium with Doug Rokke, Ph.D. As a major in the US army, he headed the Army’s DU clean-up project in Iraq after Gulf War I. He later headed Bradley Labs. Dr. Rokke’s position is a firm one - DU munitions should be banned. For information on the tour, or to serve as a local host, contact Traprock at 413-773-7427.
Posted by Charles Jenks on Jun 22, 2003 at 12:21 PM Depleted Uranium is just one of the horrors we’ve managed to create in our quest to find the most efficient ways to kill. It is a crime against humanity to slaughter, be it with D.U., Nukes, Bombers or guns. What are we doing? What are we allowing to be done in our name? Why is it so difficult to link the suffering of one to the suffering of all? Even when our suffering is clearly linked to the suffering of others we still can’t see it. Innocent civilians and soldiers alike share in the pain of brutal government policies. I wonder if those who sent others to bomb and kill and those who carried out that killing would even thinmk twice about the use of D.U. if it was only the"enemy" and their children who were suffering and not themselves and their babies. The Pentagon exists only to kill, control and dominate for our national interests. Why then should we be surprised by their lack of concern over issues relating to life when they serve only death?
Posted by elizabeth yoffe on Jun 22, 2003 at 12:57 PM this was an interesting piece of news. i did have several concerns though. why would the u.s. government place its own troops in harm’s way? what, if any, of the chemical weapons hussein used affected u.s. troops? and finally, u.s. troops entered the military voluntarily knowing full well the risks involved. so why should it be of such great concern that they were affected by their own weapons? civilians, on the other hand, should be the focus.
Posted by hoanc on Jun 22, 2003 at 7:21 PM ve joined Military Toxics Project in
opposing this and have a petition campaign supporting HR1485. We want Lautenberg and /corzine to
co-sponsor and expandit in the Senate
Posted by sylvia Zisman on Jun 23, 2003 at 10:56 AM I am saddened but not surprised by thie article regarding the use of depleted uranium ammo. The same people who praise it’s use would speak out of the other side of their mouths if there was a depelted uranium storage facility in there neighborhood. It is disgusting what we do in the name of furthering democracy.
Posted by Don Morris on Jun 23, 2003 at 3:18 PM We must continue to speak out against the use of depleted uranium, as well as cluster bombs. I am furious with this administration for its determination to ignore all moral and health issues in their pursuit of the PNAC agenda. If you have not done so, please look at http://www.newamericancentury.org/publicationsreports.htm “Bioweapons targeted to specific genotypes” and other horrors. Convince everyone you know to vote in 2004!
Posted by Kate on Jun 26, 2003 at 1:10 PM Kate I don’t know what you are trying to say I couldn’t find the article you referenced. However, the PNAC site is nothing but another Republican alphabet front. If you look at the founding members included are Jeb Bush, the second most evil man in the country Donald Rumsfeild, and the thrid most evil man in the country Paul Wolfowitz, along with the great theif Dick Cheney. By the way Karl Rove is the most evil man in the country, good old mister shadow President. In private I am sure W calls him Godfather.
This site has letters this group has written to the President on a whole bunch of evil right wing agendas. Good to know your enemies.
Posted by e on Jun 26, 2003 at 1:35 PM This article is nonsense. The scientists from many countries that have studied DU have concluded that it is a tiny threat. See the WHO report http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiation/env/du/en/
Compared to the explosives in war, DU is just not significant as a threat to health. More than 150 American & British soldiers died during the war, thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians (probably tens of thousands).
How many Americans have died of “Gulf War Syndrome?” NONE. Every study finds no excess mortality of Gulf veterans compared to non-deployed veterans. And both groups are significantly healthier than non-veterans.
Yes, DU is slightly radioactive and significantly toxic (so is lead, by the way). But if you actually _quantify_ the risk, it is insignificant.
Posted by Ken Hirsch on Jun 27, 2003 at 12:22 AM I think the first gulf war was a testing ground for a new generation of weapons. It was also a USA managed sales pitch to the world with one of the most extensive and effective advertising campaigns in modern times. This last war, 2003 seems to have been an experiment with the Iraqi people used as disposable laboratory specimens at best. The use of DU weapons in urban areas supports this. This is outrageous in particular because there seems to be no plans for an examination of the impact of DU weapon use. I am also concerned about the lack of effective organized opposition to this US action. World wide marches did not cause even a hesitation in the path to this war. Now the US looks to be in the planning stages for more in other nations in the middle eastern regions.
Posted by Olive on Jun 27, 2003 at 8:39 AM I’m really curious as to how you peaceniks rationalize the discovery of plans for a gas centrifuge and plans for urnanium enrichment system in an Iraqi scientist’s backyard. Is that not enough to convince you that Saddam Hussein, at the very least, had plans to resurrect his nuclear weapons program? Is that not reason enough to get rid of the guy? And what about the documents US investigators found that discussed hding banned weapons parts from UN inspectors? They must have been fabricated by the CIA, I guess. Nothing amuses me more than the way you crazy peaceniks insist on giving Saddam Hussein the benefit of the doubt.
What do you have to say about all this, Olive?
Posted by Tom on Jun 27, 2003 at 9:30 AM Hey Ken Hirsch,
If depleted uranium really is such an “insignificant” risk, why don’t you keep some laying about your house for a while? Strictly in the interests of empirical enquiry of course.
Posted by O on Jun 27, 2003 at 10:21 AM Hey Tom, what are you talking about? A gas centrifuge buried 12 years ago in a backyard. That is the reason thousands of civilians died? Come On! Besides, this story and the forum after it are about depleted Uranium, not whether this last war was justified. Before you post, make sure you at least read the whole story and make relevant comments.
Posted by nick on Jun 27, 2003 at 2:55 PM Hey Tom-
Check this out. Looks like your war pig Rumsfeld wasn’t too concerned about uranium enrichment and chem/bio weapons in ‘83 after Hussein had already used them to gas the Kurds, huh? Now why do you think that could be?http://www.mydd.com/archives/000427.html
Smooches
- A California Peacenik
Posted by The Alien Space Bananna on Jun 27, 2003 at 6:36 PM “Hey Ken Hirsch,
If depleted uranium really is such an ‘insignificant’ risk, why don’t you keep some laying about your house for a while?”No problem; I’ve got more dangerous items under the sink. It’s like saying “why don’t you keep a lead paperweight laying around your house?” It’s not a big deal. I wouldn’t recommend licking a lead paperweight or DU, but even there, it’s not all that dangerous. The average person ingests half a milligram of uranium in their food each year, but almost all of it passes through unabsorbed.
DU is used as radiation _shielding_ in medical radiation therapy equipment. It is used as counterweights in commercial airplanes. It is not some exotic, highly dangerous material. Saying we should be worried about DU during war is like saying we should be worried about DU during a plane crash; there are just a lot more pressing things to think about
Posted by Ken Hirsch on Jun 28, 2003 at 2:05 AM The article mentioned the writer John Pilger.
I’ve read John Pilger’s stuff. Well
researched, to the point.Find a book by him & read it.
Posted by Gerald P. Cunningham on Jun 28, 2003 at 2:45 PM This story should be renamed, “America’s Dirty Bomb”. We are so worried about terrorist blowing off a dirty bomb in one of our US cities, yet we ravish entire countries with “America’s Dirty Bomb”. This country and especially the “Bush Administration” has become the biggest lying propaganda machine since Nazi Germany using the same scare tactics to terrorize US citizens into an unjust war. Aren’t we Americans the heroes that saved the world? Taking on a third world country that spent over twelve years under UN sanctions, had vintage army tanks that should have been museum pieces, and a current day army that could hardly defend itself from a surrounding neighbor let alone a war mongering machine like the US. Pay attention world, the US does not need a nuclear bomb to wipeout hundreds of thousands of people in one blast. We have a weapon that can strip DNA for generations.
Posted by Joe Dayfield on Jun 29, 2003 at 1:06 PM This information was part of a longer article that came to a message group I belong to.
“This basic pathway modeling technique can be applied to the issue of DU penetrator dusts. Contrary to DOE claims, the urine analysis technique does not protect the lymph nodes from being poisoned by DU insoluble oxides particulate. Urine testing works well for soluble forms of uranium only. What happens for DU penetrators dusts is the respirable dusts stick in lung, set off toxic cell damage, setting off immune process, and the macrophages pull the material into the lymph nodes making these the most highly toxically exposed cells in the body to the DU. This dose dependent effect can damage the macrophages, sets off some level of cytokine response, and shuts down the ability of the nodes to denature cell DNA and that of pathogens. With this comes viral, bacterial, fungal, mycoplasma, and, etc., deregulation in the lungs and these pathogens set off even further cytokine response in the lung tissues that cause scarring, etc. The continual activation of the cytokines in the body cause cells damage effects in all tissues. The Th1 activation often begin with asthma, rashes, and allergy symptoms as indicators.”
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So...we have children across the US suffering from skin rashes and asthma...and...the government told us just before we declared war on Iraq that we could suffer the results of blowing “sand” and other things from the Gulf...look it up. It’s another lie by this administration, or is it?!Even so, could the DU have blown this far? Is that why there is so much asthma and so many children with unexplained rashes? Or has the government allowed our country to become so polluted that our children are suffering?
Feel free to email me if you’re interested in what I think.
Just so you know, I was never prouder in my life than when my daughter graduated from Army basic training and the Defense Language Institute! So, don’t think I’m un-American! I just don’t like to be lied to!
Bonnie Clark
Posted by Bonnie Clark on Jun 29, 2003 at 6:48 PM 4.5 billion year half life is longer than life had existed on this planet. Is it typical of the MBA president and his criminal cronies to take risks at the expense of entire populations including our own soldiers for private profit. Speaking of the idiotic euphemism “Friendly fire,” this one is a slow cancerous burn that we could never contain. Are these idiots the bible- thumping armegedinists who think that some nebulous god is going to pick up after them? The responsibility is in our hands, I am too much of an intellectual skeptic to rely on an intangible God or savior-I am pretty sure that God, if there is one would be ever more wrathful because of the evil deeds of our oil marinated Government. Helen Caldicott also gives a clear picture of what nuclear proliferation (Nucular for the anacephallic types) is all about. It is amazing that the vast ignorance of the population of the USA is regarding what is really going on. I guess the FCC wants to make sure it stays that way. Thank you Frida. Excellent job! TS Tunnel Visionary.
Posted by thomas stubbs on Jul 1, 2003 at 11:58 PM Joe Dayfield writes
“This story should be renamed, ‘America’s Dirty Bomb’. We
are so worried about terrorist blowing off a dirty bomb
in one of our US cities, yet we ravish entire countries
with ‘America’s Dirty Bomb’.”First of all, experts say that dirty bombs would actually cause few deaths: http://www.msnbc.com/news/886880.asp
Secondly, there is a big difference between the elements feared for use in dirty bombs and DU. For example, Cesium-137, the most commonly mentioned, is 200 million times more radioactive than DU; it emits beta and gamma radiation, rather than DU’s alpha radiation; it is easily absorbed in the body and distributed throughout, whereas uranium is not.
Posted by Ken Hirsch on Jul 3, 2003 at 8:09 AM Isn’t it ironic that Bush sold the war in Iraq as a need to take weapons of mass destruction out of the hands of a ‘madman’ only to find that they are not there, and it is we who have spread radioactive material all around. Bill Moyers of PBS fame said in a recent speech that the current administration is on a mission to destroy the United States of America. “Truth” is a big part of Truth, Justice and the American way. Truth has been perverted, justice is being neglected and ‘the American Way’ has turned into greed, war, environmental hostility and scorn for the rest of the world’s opinion.
What do we have left to be proud of?
Posted by Ian Crossley on Jul 8, 2003 at 2:06 PM wow this was really comprehensive. here in Australia we’ve been talking about this too. made the front page at:
http://www.thepaper.org.au/issues/046/046depleted_uranium_the_new_nuclear_t threat.html (copy and paste into browser address bar if can not click)
cheers
Posted by Chris Ishizuka on Jul 8, 2003 at 6:43 PM Ken: Way to try to inform em! U238 is a naturally occuring element that has been around since the earth first came into being. Its a heavy metal that is around everyone all across the country. If you live in a mountainous region (like colorado) your exposure to it would be slightly higher. If you live in a brick house, there is going to be a small concentration of U238 in the bricks. U238 is considered background radiation in most cases. I agree, maybe we don’t need to use it in weapons, but much of this article is just trying to sensationalize a small problem in a war where bombs and bullets are flying already…
Posted by Scott on Jul 10, 2003 at 8:38 PM Ken: Way to try to inform em! U238 is a naturally occuring element that has been around since the earth first came into being. Its a heavy metal that is around everyone all across the country. If you live in a mountainous region (like colorado) your exposure to it would be slightly higher. If you live in a brick house, there is going to be a small concentration of U238 in the bricks. U238 is considered background radiation in most cases. I agree, maybe we don’t need to use it in weapons, but much of this article is just trying to sensationalize a small problem in a war where bombs and bullets are flying already…
Posted by Scott on Jul 10, 2003 at 8:38 PM Depleted Uranium (U238) is commonly considered background radiation in trace amounts - it is also true that the Rocky mountain regions (former Co. resident) also contain higher levels. However that does not in anyway make U238 insignificant. In fact it is a contributing factor to higher cancer rates in that region (along with the altitude and other factors). It is a carcinogen and should not be down played.
Posted by jill on Jul 16, 2003 at 4:12 PM uranium munitions are so effective against armor because they fission on impact. calling them pyrophoric is spin to cover the fact that they’re small and very dirty atomic bomblets with all the same toxic consequences of their larger brethern.
Posted by jim johnson on Jul 20, 2003 at 11:36 PM Writing incognito for job-related reasons....
The risk from DU is real. I was an authorized radioisotope user in a past job, meaning I had been trained in the proper use, storage and handling of radioisotopes of all types, from alpha emitters to all the elements not used in biomedical research. DU is nasty stuff to handle; proper handling involves heavy lead shielding and your radiotags (the exposure-monitoring equipment you wear when you handle radioisotopes) are processed and reported on a weekly basis, not the monthly basis used for other isotopes.
There was a researcher I know that was on the team investigating DU use after the first Gulf conflict (wouldn’t stoop to classify it a war). Last I talked to him, he was being treated for lung cancer. Over half the original project team has died from cancers, many from respiratory cancers (he believed from breathing DU dust that lodged in the lungs, where the radiation would cause tissue to mutate).
DU is useful from a military standpoint because it not only helps wipe out the enemy in the short-term (ie blow up the building) it contines to work in the environment, affecting the population and making them extremely dependant on other countries… Hmm, wouldn’t that be useful?
A few more sources of information, should you wish to continue research:
www.cryptome.org
www.memoryhole.com
Posted by A. Smith on Jul 21, 2003 at 3:12 PM It would seem that the government would be more concerned about the troops in the field and their exposure to depleted uranium and its long range health affects. Correct me if I am wrong, but a military should be healthy, not sickly. The idea is the same for the civilian workforce, when you have illnesses over a prolonged period of time, the effectiveness of operations suffers, and the health costs and other factors are enormous. Isn’t that true for the Military as well? Be up front about what is involved here. It’s bad enough our soldiers are fighting and dying in Iraq, without our killing them too with our advance weapons that use depleted uranium.
Posted by Jim Walker on Jul 21, 2003 at 3:16 PM At West Point students live by these words “I will not lie, cheat, or steal, nor tolerate those who do. “
Any questions?
Posted by Skip on Jul 23, 2003 at 6:44 PM I used to be in the british army, (8 years,) and served all over the Balkans amongst other places. I am fully aware of the dangers of DU rounds. The government is constantly trying to cover up “Gulf War Syndrome” over here and nearly all court cases are quashed. It isn’t possible to get help or information on the subject because they only tell you what they want you to know. The government/ministry of defence over here have been testing chemicals of one discription or another on british troops and their allies since before WW2 at Portland Down research facility. No-one has ever (to my knowledge) been able to successfully sue or get recognition of this. They know what they’re doing and they do it well. Be careful trying to take them on, people have a habit of dissappearing, or smear campains raised against them, or evidence dissappears. There is no end to what they can get away with. I never really believed in “conspiracy theories” before delving into matters such as these, but as the addage goes, There’s no smoke without fire.” Good luck to every-one out there trying to take them on. My sympathy and condolances go out to those who have suffered or are still suffering.
Posted by Tyles on Jul 25, 2003 at 5:09 AM In response to the anti-alarmists: DU’s radioactive properties and inherent capacity to cause illness have to be considered in the context of their introduction to the body. It seems that a pyrophoric shell, releasing an atomized form of the isotope, is particularly dangerous because of the potential for large physical amounts of the isotope to be ingested and lodged in the lungs themselves. This is a very far cry from solid DU in an airplane hull or DU shielded inside of medical equipment. Radioactive dust lodged in the lungs, emitting alpha particles, is obviously a serious health concern and quite beyond daily exposures to radioactive materials.
Also, the fact that U238 has been around on a universal time scale has no significance for its capacity to harm human physiology. All elements have been present on a universal time scale and a great number of them are harmful to humans (mercury, lead, the halogens, plutonium, uranium, just to name a few from my extremely limited knowledge base).
Posted by jim l on Jul 25, 2003 at 8:08 PM With Jimís post in mind:
1. The Bush admin has promoted evisceraton of theVA budget and has written memorandum mandating personnel to discourage any new enrollees.
2. The escalating evasion of employee benefits (including medical coverage, pensions, profit sharing, and any expectation of job security among the rank and file) significantly reduces employersí concern with the costs of maintaining an effective ìlaborî and/or ìmiddle managementî force.
Hence, what do the corporate owners of America /World care for the sufferings and deaths amongst the American peonage, whether military or civilian?
Their contempt, and their conscience-free assessment of the expendability of just about any one of us is blatant. (That is to say, reassess your value from their perspective ñ its helpful to recall government decisions regarding the ëexpendablesí in the trenches of WWI) Public service today does not refer to fulfilling civic duty in office as a servant/employee of the people/nation. Public service amounts to the public will serve without question the mandate of privilege and pay the price tag for the costs of doing business (aka subsidy, spillover, and social costs: we want it, you give it/we made the toxin, you clean it up, etc.) while the profits accrue en masse to the self-conscious and self-appointed elite.
? I hope we fight them well enough to leave our children with the knowledge and energy to keep winning against the greedy bullies, launching their dominance fantasies into pyrophoric nirvana. Current references by DoD persons paralleling U.S. foreign policy intentions to successes enjoyed by the Roman Empire cannot be taken too lightly ñ one canít help but project with thoughts of the dark ages that followed. How dark a post-nuked age?
Posted by Lea E. on Jul 30, 2003 at 4:05 PM it’s time to rip power away from lying bastards who disregard any public desires and needs until it’s a flood they can’t stop then they try to pacify and too many are content with that...discontent and dissent are needed before the rug is pulled out completely from under us.
To think we fund corruption every year with tax dollars cuz it’s a law is appalling. We fund our own demise? How much longer?
Posted by Mr. Furious on Sep 9, 2003 at 12:20 AM Bush’s grandad, Senator Prescott Bush, had his assets confiscated for financing Hitler into power from 1922-1936 (Vesting Order 248, 20th Oct 1942, Trading with the Enemy Act). 54 million died.
His dad, President GHW Bush started proxy wars which killed 4.83 million and financed Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda with $200m taxpayers money.
This “President” : GW: According to the BBC, his Brother Jeb struck 173,000 blacks (who vote Democrat) off the electoral role in Florida 18m before the election, then declared GW the winner by 537 votes. The Bushes and the bin Ladens have been business partners since Salem bin Laden bought 5% of GW’s worthless Arbusto company for $50,000 in 1978. They now jointly own the Carlyle Group, a vast private offshore weapons company. GW has invaded two countries, killed 60,000, abolished the Bill of Rights of 1791 with his cyncially named “USA Patriot Act” 26th Oct 2001 and controls the Press soviet style. The Bushes are the ultimate terrorist family.
Posted by Alison Jones on Oct 26, 2003 at 3:22 PM DU is the reason, I posed the question, why would president Bush visit Iraq on Thanksgiving Day...He would have to inhale the air, along with the troops…
Posted by Carlos Rodriguez on Nov 30, 2003 at 7:22 PM Alison Jones, I cannot agree with you more. The Bush family is a group of evil, greedy, inconsiderate Nazis who only care about helping themselves and their friends. “President” George W. Bush should be impeached immediately, or we will be in deep shit.
Posted by Real Patriot on Dec 1, 2003 at 9:50 PM This should be the top news story of the war but the “news media” has ignored and buried it. So much for free press in the US. I read a report that said clean up of the contaminated areas would not be cost effective. What’s happening is silent genocide. It’s happening in Afganistan as well.
Posted by Karey on Dec 5, 2003 at 3:47 AM Alison Jones,
You’re going to confuse and rile up conservatives with facts. God forbid they listen to that. Keep the lies coming and call everyone who disagrees a traitor.Good info. Keep up the good fight.
Posted by neil on Dec 23, 2003 at 8:20 AM This is truely an amazing time in which we live. What most fail to see is why are we in Iraq? Please read Isaiah chapter 13. Before the time of Christ it was written that Babylon would be descimated by those from a far country, using weapons of indignation, and the whole land would be destroyed. Left uninhabitable. Like it or not, or belive it or not. Bush and company have gone to destroy that country, they have gone to fullfill prophecy and move the world closer to the greater plan which is on the back of the dollar bill for all to see. The new world order is coming. It’s not just coincidence that both Kerry and Bush, and Clinton and Bush sr. all belong to the same fraternity, “secret society”, Clinton belong’s to the sister fraternity of Skull n Bones. Go to Elberton Georgia, and look at the tablets, tablets that weigh 27,ooo lbs each. Tablets written in all the main languages throughout time. The first goal for the future of man is to maintain the worlds population in harmony with nature, problem is the goal is 500 million. 6 Billion less than live on earth today. So a few hundred thousand of our lower income is just the beginning, of the sacrafice soon to come. Just like the 3000 in NY, a small # to have gained so much. Open war on the rogue countries of the world, and the most dictatorial legislation to have ever seen the light of day, and it passed in record time. Go down to Georgia, walk out in that field, and see the monuments they created. You will quickly realize that this is only the beginning.
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