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If anyone says the media is unbiased after reading this aricle they are delusional.
Posted by stan on Aug 11, 2003 at 2:36 PM
Just goes to show you that you gotta go out and educate yourself. none of this relying on the government.
Posted by Jon on Aug 11, 2003 at 6:34 PM
Education is civil defense against media fallout. It’s time to go back to school, America.
Posted by Ian on Aug 12, 2003 at 1:25 AM
Follow the Hutton Enquiry in the UK for an insight into spin, lies and deception in the quest for war.
Posted by V on Aug 12, 2003 at 5:28 AM
I remember when the media existed not to just report but also investigate claims and assertions made by public officials. Sadly, most media outlets seem to have forgotten that basic tenet when reporting the news these days.
Posted by e sorensen on Aug 12, 2003 at 6:42 AM
Our media needs to learn from and emulate their foriegn brethren, i.e. Greg Palast, The Guardian, Financial Times, etc.
Corporatism of the mainstream press is turning our journalists into PR hacks. Thank goodness for this and so many other alternative news websites.
Posted by Larry R. on Aug 12, 2003 at 9:50 AM
The actual content of mainstream news has become secondary to the primary goal of advertising, whether product or propaganda. Be wary of the slant and bias.
Posted by abel garcia on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:06 AM
We need to elect Dennis Kucinich, the only candidate who is willing to stand up to the Military-Industrial and Prison-Industrial Complex.
Unless, of course, we all *want* to continue down the path of becoming faceless automatons feeding corporate greed machines.
Posted by Frightened on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:26 AM
Drag all the MF out and hang them from the lamp post.
Posted by Emil on Aug 12, 2003 at 5:43 PM
The administration lies and the media swears to it more often than not. The greatest threat to our democracy today is this ever widening creditability gap .
Posted by Stich on Aug 12, 2003 at 7:44 PM
As long as the media is run by big corporations their interests and those of the government officials they lobby will determine what ‘truth’ we hear. In order to have a democratic media we need independent media…subscribe today!
Posted by Sarah on Aug 13, 2003 at 3:58 PM
as an american I am appalled at how a few neo-cons (some with dualk citizenships) were able to concoct and sell this war to the American people and a C student president. I am also troubled by the lack of cries for a full scale investigation of these “patriots” by the media. In the meantime, our American young soldiers are dying. Shame on them all!
Posted by Chester Polwin on Aug 13, 2003 at 7:40 PM
Great story! Why are we not sending this story to our congressional elected officials? What is up with the 16 word thing. I do not think we have heard one word of truth come out of the mouth of anyone in this administratuion. If we cannot get this bunch impeached and tried in the Senate, or in Court’s of law, then we have already lost our Democracy. Has anyone noticed that Europe is much freer than we are?
Posted by Dot Dedman on Aug 14, 2003 at 10:25 AM
Hi Dot,
I read an interview with Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys in which he said that his house gets broken into every so often and he is still living in unmarked-car-land, and I have to say that while in Europe we don
Posted by Owen on Aug 14, 2003 at 3:03 PM
This story illustrates the right’s modus operandi as it has been throughout my lifetime. Conservatives don’t care whether their policies are well-founded or whether they are good for the country. All they care about is the implementation of the policies they want. They are past masters in getting what they want, and leaving posterity the task of debating the pros and cons. And while people are stuck arguing about things that happened in the past, the conservatives have moved on to their next outrage.
Although Iraq is certainly turning into a debacle, there seems little point arguing about it all now. Nothing can be done to undo that particular mess, at least in the lifetime of the present administration, which doesn’t care very deeply about the consequences of its policies, which are, in the end, likely to come to a head under a Democratic administration.
It’s time Democrats and progressive concentrated on averting catastrophes in the making - like the looming Republican takeover of California - rather than shedding tears about those that have already happened.
Posted by James Paterson on Aug 14, 2003 at 9:32 PM
I have known from the beginning that the government was using the media to spread its lies, but the problem is that the fear-mongering by this administration has given them the power to use
Posted by Shawn on Oct 2, 2003 at 8:10 AM
I am so glad you wrote this article.
I discovered it on a link at a TrueMajority.org website.
I hope many others will read it.
The mainstream media seems to have lost so much objectivity that
the “news” has become little more than constant repetition of authority-speak.
Who can we trust in media?
Intuition has led me to seek alternative sources…such as “In These Times”.
Your fine article supports my intuition ..while certain journalists are still asking the right questions, editors curiously hide the tougher questions and challenges behind the big-power soundbites.
We must ask ourselves- WHY?
What a waste of democracy.
Our founding fathers would be embarrassed and ashamed of today’s media.
Jude
aka Iddybud ;)
http://iddybud.blogspot.com
Posted by Iddybud on Nov 3, 2003 at 11:22 AM
I believe that the television media (except for the more objective public television media) wanted a war so that they could hog all that air time. Peace does not sell commercial time, it is boring. After reading Molly Ivins 2 books about our president I believe we should, as a country, hold Bush’s to the fire on all the lies he has told. Remember he was not elected, he was appointed and he needs to be reminded of that daily.
Posted by Sarah on Nov 7, 2003 at 11:27 AM
Excellent reporting and coverage. However, what about “Osama bin Forgotten”; i.e. Afghan lies and once again they are left twisting in the wind. e.g. Bush said that the Taliban drug profits were supporting Al Queda; however, they had practically stopped the trade (without our Colombian special forces). Further, now that they are (almost) gone (and generally good riddance), the drug trade is back with a flourish courtesy of the Northern War Lords, our new buddies. Are they supporting any external forces?
Posted by Reed Gauge on Nov 9, 2003 at 12:40 PM
On the other hand, you can’t trust only officials who tell you what you want to hear. For better or for worse, you will need AND use these sources for both information supportive and detractive of the administration we just love to hate. :)
Posted by Ender on Jan 10, 2004 at 10:29 AM
Comment:Here is a book I have written on law. The central chapter deals with the provisions under international law in the UN Charter that have repeatedly been violated by the United States. As clearly as anyone would want to read and understand - the internatinal legal issues are set out in “Learn the Law”.You need not agree with me - but it would be good to hear from you, on the international legal issue of the pre-emptive strike doctrine, and from those who believe that a world functioning in this way will be a safer place if this doctrine were to be widely applied. Reply: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
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If anyone says the media is unbiased after reading this aricle they are delusional.
Just goes to show you that you gotta go out and educate yourself. none of this relying on the government.
Education is civil defense against media fallout. It’s time to go back to school, America.
Follow the Hutton Enquiry in the UK for an insight into spin, lies and deception in the quest for war.
I remember when the media existed not to just report but also investigate claims and assertions made by public officials. Sadly, most media outlets seem to have forgotten that basic tenet when reporting the news these days.
Our media needs to learn from and emulate their foriegn brethren, i.e. Greg Palast, The Guardian, Financial Times, etc.
Corporatism of the mainstream press is turning our journalists into PR hacks. Thank goodness for this and so many other alternative news websites.
The actual content of mainstream news has become secondary to the primary goal of advertising, whether product or propaganda. Be wary of the slant and bias.
We need to elect Dennis Kucinich, the only candidate who is willing to stand up to the Military-Industrial and Prison-Industrial Complex.
Unless, of course, we all *want* to continue down the path of becoming faceless automatons feeding corporate greed machines.
Drag all the MF out and hang them from the lamp post.
The administration lies and the media swears to it more often than not. The greatest threat to our democracy today is this ever widening creditability gap .
As long as the media is run by big corporations their interests and those of the government officials they lobby will determine what ‘truth’ we hear. In order to have a democratic media we need independent media…subscribe today!
as an american I am appalled at how a few neo-cons (some with dualk citizenships) were able to concoct and sell this war to the American people and a C student president. I am also troubled by the lack of cries for a full scale investigation of these “patriots” by the media. In the meantime, our American young soldiers are dying. Shame on them all!
Great story! Why are we not sending this story to our congressional elected officials? What is up with the 16 word thing. I do not think we have heard one word of truth come out of the mouth of anyone in this administratuion. If we cannot get this bunch impeached and tried in the Senate, or in Court’s of law, then we have already lost our Democracy. Has anyone noticed that Europe is much freer than we are?
Hi Dot,
I read an interview with Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys in which he said that his house gets broken into every so often and he is still living in unmarked-car-land, and I have to say that while in Europe we don
This story illustrates the right’s modus operandi as it has been throughout my lifetime. Conservatives don’t care whether their policies are well-founded or whether they are good for the country. All they care about is the implementation of the policies they want. They are past masters in getting what they want, and leaving posterity the task of debating the pros and cons. And while people are stuck arguing about things that happened in the past, the conservatives have moved on to their next outrage.
Although Iraq is certainly turning into a debacle, there seems little point arguing about it all now. Nothing can be done to undo that particular mess, at least in the lifetime of the present administration, which doesn’t care very deeply about the consequences of its policies, which are, in the end, likely to come to a head under a Democratic administration.
It’s time Democrats and progressive concentrated on averting catastrophes in the making - like the looming Republican takeover of California - rather than shedding tears about those that have already happened.
I have known from the beginning that the government was using the media to spread its lies, but the problem is that the fear-mongering by this administration has given them the power to use
I am so glad you wrote this article.
I discovered it on a link at a TrueMajority.org website.
I hope many others will read it.
The mainstream media seems to have lost so much objectivity that
the “news” has become little more than constant repetition of authority-speak.
Who can we trust in media?
Intuition has led me to seek alternative sources…such as “In These Times”.
Your fine article supports my intuition ..while certain journalists are still asking the right questions, editors curiously hide the tougher questions and challenges behind the big-power soundbites.
We must ask ourselves- WHY?
What a waste of democracy.
Our founding fathers would be embarrassed and ashamed of today’s media.
Jude
aka Iddybud ;)
http://iddybud.blogspot.com
I believe that the television media (except for the more objective public television media) wanted a war so that they could hog all that air time. Peace does not sell commercial time, it is boring. After reading Molly Ivins 2 books about our president I believe we should, as a country, hold Bush’s to the fire on all the lies he has told. Remember he was not elected, he was appointed and he needs to be reminded of that daily.
Excellent reporting and coverage. However, what about “Osama bin Forgotten”; i.e. Afghan lies and once again they are left twisting in the wind. e.g. Bush said that the Taliban drug profits were supporting Al Queda; however, they had practically stopped the trade (without our Colombian special forces). Further, now that they are (almost) gone (and generally good riddance), the drug trade is back with a flourish courtesy of the Northern War Lords, our new buddies. Are they supporting any external forces?
On the other hand, you can’t trust only officials who tell you what you want to hear. For better or for worse, you will need AND use these sources for both information supportive and detractive of the administration we just love to hate. :)
Comment:Here is a book I have written on law. The central chapter deals with the provisions under international law in the UN Charter that have repeatedly been violated by the United States. As clearly as anyone would want to read and understand - the internatinal legal issues are set out in “Learn the Law”.You need not agree with me - but it would be good to hear from you, on the international legal issue of the pre-emptive strike doctrine, and from those who believe that a world functioning in this way will be a safer place if this doctrine were to be widely applied. Reply: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Dear Reader,
Re:www.trafford.com/robots/03-1143.html - and - www.globaljusticeonline.com -and -
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