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Yoh sCorp Perhaps a link or a citation to some of your more ridiculous Allegations & Disinformation would be in order Climate Change Policy Footprint Amid Threat of Global Warming http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2008/06/17/climate-change-policy-footprint-amid-threat-global-warming.html Global Warming http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Library/GlobalWarmingUpdate/ Ecosystem Out Of Kilter http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=31&art_id=nw20080618090808231C308132
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Watch: THE DENIAL MACHINE http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/denialmachine/video.html See how solutions to long term problems are undermined in the Interests of short term sCORPorate Profits
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Perhaps it would be prudent for us to further familiarize ourselves with the Psychopathic Pathology that is prevalent in the modern sCorporation 1. The Corporation - Birth - 1of14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRWWZVVOxeM 2. The Corporation - Legal Person - 2of14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjCsBPMZokU 3. The Corporation - Case Histories - 3of14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nwqqG_5-3k&feature=related 4. The Corporation - Pathology Of Commerce - 4of14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3WMQLKrXWc&feature=related 5. The Corporation - Mindset 5of14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSQGaGFYBwk&feature=related 6. The Corporation - Boundary Crisis - 6of14 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuKDnXso38Q&feature=related 7. The Corporation - Basic Training - 7of14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XwYsEgi2x8&feature=related 8. The Corporation - Perception Management 8of14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QArt7KAybf8&feature=related 9. The Corporation - Advancing The Front - 9of14 …
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Yoh! Rabbit! I see yer still smokin the skunks out of there holes!! Kudos to Yah "mon ami"
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Yoh! Rabbit! I see your still smokin the skunks out of their holes. Kudos mon ami.
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Quote the Rabbit! Posted by GhostRabbit on Dec 10, 2005 at 7:29 PM "Talking about smoking the Skunk, this latest weed smells like Skunk but looks like Buddha" Yoh! Ho Ho Mon Ami!
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I bean beeting my brains out in Russia.
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Yoh "Luminous Beauty" Make your copy on your "Word Processor" This site is software unfreindly" Copy or WP on to the site. You may have to post once or twice before the damd thing takes.
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Yoh Dave Good to yak with you guys again. Don't know for how long. I'm just cruising around looking for a fight. As time allows. Lookin for a “Right Wing Nut” to poke in the eye with my stick. Yoh Rabbit The smoking the skunk line was hilarious. I almost fell out of my chair! Anyway, I Been “Beaking Off” a bit, off and on, over on the PRAVDA Forums. It was fun peeling the bark off that old stump Helbig was it not! It was memorable! To bad Lindorff got all twisted up. Yoh Wileywitch I like the up the …
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Quote from Post by GhostRabbit on Dec 12, 2005 at 10:42 PM “Everything else is a result of sentience. “ Yes. I believe that. "Consciouness" not matter is the prime phenomena. In the spirit of enlightenment we must ally. Yoh Rabbit - You have a field? Where? Send me email. Quote from Post by wileywitch on Dec 12, 2005 at 11:23 PM “As a matter of fact, with proper training, I think I can do some of what I did in the military, track trolls and direct our wackers to enemy targets.” Yoh “wileywitch” maybe you could train us in a …
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Yoh Luminious! Thanks for the straightening out. I just bopped
between some serious involvements. Took a cursory glance. Hurriedly looked at the pictures. And dumb old me took him serious. I should know better than that. I’ll try and get a closer look tonight sometime. I use to post on the so-called Christian Site, until I got my ass banned. Sometimes them guys are, serious – Serious - SERIOUS - Pathology! They want to start burning witches, infidels & heretics again. Check out, Reconstructionist, Dominionist Theology. They already have people in places of power. Yabbow Yakkis! My … Posted to Torturers R' Us
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I just checked out your “Wikipedia” article. Its very interesting. I don't think a person can be classed or branded as a troll as long as he/she is consistent and honest in her/his, viewpoints, opinions & facts. What thinkest thou, good people?
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And here it is Friends THE TORTURE TREE From is poisonous roots through it tentacle branches, to its predatory leaves. http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/discuss/2414/P200/
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I messed up the link agains sorry. Try this one. http://www.thenation.com/special/pdf/torture_tree.pdf
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Yoh ! Friends Were’d everybody go? Rabbit - I tried sending you a email about a week ago. I got a return to sender on it? I been very busy lately. Looks like everybody else has to Anyway here’s the latest “Information clearing hose offering on torture. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11320.htm
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Yoh Friends A - OK! We will be around! I'm going to try your blog again Rabbit. Sometime when I'm not runnin! Keep on keepin on!
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Quote from. Posted by johnnyincentx on Dec 3, 2005 at 7:11 PM "Israel should take 1yrs. worth of American Subsidies and divide that among all the Palistinians, then give them 1 way transportation out of the country forever." Expelling people from the land that they have lived on is called ethnic cleansing. It is a war crime. They bombed the poop out of the Serbs for trying that kind of crap. Or is a double standatd operative here? ‘ johnnyincentx’ are you a racist fascist pig? I note to you want to get the “American Taxpayer” to finance your atrocity. …
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Well - I see we have turned Johnny ON! Nope: not Arab. And I do not know any Arabs. But account them human. Quote: “Any truly educated person KNOWS that Jews are Arabs ARE ONE PEOPLE. BOTH ARE SEMITES.” I know that Why do you allow youself to hate your brother?. Or give or recieve cause for him to hate you? Quote “IT SHOULD BE CLEAR TO ANYone that the intractibility of the MidEast conflict IS a RELIGIOUS CONFLICT” We agree. Quote MILLIONS OF JEWS NEVER LEFT THE MIDEAST. Jews are NOT foreigners in the MidEast Neither are the Arabs brother. …
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Quote from Post by johnnyincentx on Dec 11, 2005 at 2:46 AM “I refuse to obsess about the opression of a society that enshrines brutal repression of women by any means necessary as they do in Arab nations.” Johnny Johnny Please be informed. Oppression and Suffering tends to radicalize people. It tends to make them sick. Example. The U.S. bombing of Cambodia brought the Kamar Rouge to power there. Afghanistan: The United States backed the Misogynist religious fundy nuts in Afghanistan, in an insurgency against Soviet involvement in that country. They supplied and armed them to the teeth. Osama Bin Laden …
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Quote: from Post by johnnyincentx on Dec 11, 2005 at 9:16 PM “The USA backed ANY viable rebel group that opposed the Soviets during there time there. If you were willing to kill a Soviet,” So it’s the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Irregadless if they are a bunch of mad dog, sexually disfuntional maniacs. It’s like hireing serial killers to take out the garbage. Not an intelligent choice, let alone a very moral option. Sooner or latter you will have to pay the piper on that sort of transaction. Perhaps the United States made a small down payment …
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Yoh! Johnny – Here is a Fair warning from another Non Zionist Jewish Intellectual and one of the world’s foremost military historians. Quote: [B]Martin Van Creveld[/B] - Professor at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem "If you are strong, and you are fighting the weak for any period of time, you are going to become weak yourself. If you behave like a coward then you are going to become cowardly – it’s only a question of time." So how’s the Zionist “Cowardly Quotient” doing these days Johnny? With policies such as collective punishment, extra judicial murder, indiscriminate sniper fire, the building of …
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Damed link don't work right. Here try this one. http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,1653453,00.html
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Yoh Johnny! Quoting the post by johnnyincentx on Dec 12, 2005 at 2:44 PM “Considering how you feel evil Jews….yadda yadda “ And “The hate-filled, fantasy nightmare that haunts you now….” ------------ Now that’s not nice Johnny. When did I say "evil Jew"? But fact that you make the charge is what this tread is all about. You try to equate anyone who opposes criminal Zionist policy as, “Jew Haters” and as “Anti Semite” Thereby you hope to “stifle all reasonable debate and opposition” to those repressive criminal policies. That is exactly what Norman Finklestein’s book “Beyond Chutzpah” is all about. …
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Yoh! "Tyrhen" Good to here from you!
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Yoh! tyrrhen Thank You For: “david simpson’s review of jacqueline rose’s book, THE QUESTION OF ZION [published in april 2005, by princeton univ press] in the 23 june issue of LONDON REVIEW OF BOOKS,” The Ideas expressed seem clear and cogent. I intend to follow up!
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Yoh Scorp Lets back up a bit. - Posted by scorp on October 8, 2005 at 11:25 PM Quote the Scorp “I certainly need not comment on anything that Mad Albright ever said or did, at least in this context, but here we see the leftist repetition of blatant dishonesty and hypocrisy…..Blah Blah Blah" then Quote from the link the Scorp gave: http://www.alternet.org/story/11933 “The Lancet, the journal of the British Medical Society, asserting that sanctions were responsible for the deaths of 567,000 Iraqi children. The New York Times picked up the story and declared "Iraq Sanctions Kill Children." CBS followed up …
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Yoh Rabbit! Anybody! How do you send a PM on this Software sorry Site? Can anybody tell me? "Members" just gets me to my own Prof. Cannot find access1?1?
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Yoh! Scorp. I can’t keep up with the volume you guys put out. Time constrains slow me down And so would like to refer back: Posted by scorp on October 12, 2005 at 8:19 PM Your continued defense of the sanctions policy as it took effect in Iraq, is quite disturbing I Quote the scorp 2) The babies are dead because Saddam withheld food and medicine in order to buy golden palaces and illegal weapons for himself. “This statement is blatantly untrue. It will be of no use to you when you try to rationalize or justify the blood on your …
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Yoh! Scorp. I can’t keep up with the volume you guys put out. Time constrains slow me down And so would like to refer back: Posted by scorp on October 12, 2005 at 8:19 PM Your continued defense of the sanctions policy as it took effect in Iraq, is quite disturbing I Quote the scorp 2) The babies are dead because Saddam withheld food and medicine in order to buy golden palaces and illegal weapons for himself. “This statement is blatantly untrue. It will be of no use to you when you try to rationalize or justify the blood on your …
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Yoh! Scorp. I can’t keep up with the volume you guys put out. Time constrains slow me down And so would like to refer back: Posted by scorp on October 12, 2005 at 8:19 PM Your continued defense of the sanctions policy as it took effect in Iraq, is quite disturbing I Quote the scorp 2) The babies are dead because Saddam withheld food and medicine in order to buy golden palaces and illegal weapons for himself. “This statement is blatantly untrue. It will be of no use to you when you try to rationalize or justify the blood on your …
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Jeebus Creets! My post last night it would not go on to the forums. This morning there are three of them! Sorry about the mess! Maybe on the the moderators can delete the extraneous posts.
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Yoh Scorp! I wish I had more time to expound but here are a couple of LINKS Links that will correct & clarify some misinformation, that you fed our readers, regarding Mr. Borlaug. Posted by scorp on October 14, 2005 at 9:20 PM Yak Yak .. “Free market democracies are creating more free market democracies, liberating people, providing for the economic needs of people, and feeding people. (The Green Revolution, led by American Norman Borlaug and financed by American Foundations, averted wide spread famine in the 1960s and 1970s, saving one billion people from starvation"…..Yabida Yabida Please be Informed! Before you …
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One small caveat regarding freemarket inspired liberation! FreeMarket Corporations like to quote Dr. Borlaug when they are trying to sell and monopolize the latest HOT WIRED GM (geneticly modified) seeds. Right now the LIBERATED people of Iraq must buy all their seeds from these Corporations. Or stand to be legally prosecuted. That is one of the conditions of their LIBERATION.
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Wow Scorpy! Quote the Scorp “Free market democracies are creating more free market democracies, liberating people, providing for the economic needs of people, and feeding people.” The last time I saw a dance like that! -- Wow! That is some bump and grind. All four of your clauses are crap Scorpy! If I pick one or two of them it is probably because of time constraint on my part. I wish I had more time. But as regards Dr. Borlaug’s ideas on free market, I believe anyone who can read can understand, that he feels subsidies to third world farmers are …
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Scorp - I Quote you. “If you really wish to complain, why don’t you complain about something important: 100 million dead under communism,” Why are you always trying to change the topic. We are way off topic now and since you avoided dealing with the injustice of prosecuting a bunch of humanitarians for trying to save some suffering children you have brought us to the unsavory topic of the “Train Wreck” that present US economic policies are inflicting on the world. Now you want us to start yaking about a bunch of stupid murderous Stalinists. As far as to why Russia’s …
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Yoh! Hoist up the Jon B sail! Have at em rabbit You is murderin da bums. Unfortunately, the poor misbegotten mooncalfs that you are dealing with, have not even the self-awareness to comprehend how totally you have devastated them and their churlish arguments. Unfortunately you are dealing with people who are incomplete. They have not the capacity to perceive anything that contradicts or confronts the ideology that they worship. They simply continue on, licking the hooves of the golden calf that stands before their blinkered eye. It is as if they have been lobotomized and had the very “Keystone” of their …
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Posted by Seamus Holman on September 3, 2005 at 12:42 PM Quote : “……a constant disregard for basic respect forced us to remove all posts from Rabbitvoz.” Not good enough Seamus. The rabbit hit hard, but he was making valid points that should be aired and dealt with. ----------------- Posted by scorp on September 3, 2005 “ There is no credibility in saying that nobody saw this coming.” “Nobody is saying that” Sorry scorp: Bush has already said that. His first defense was to plead ignorance. On September 1, President George W. Bush told “Good Morning America,” “I don’t think anybody …
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Thank You I Got It! I have had the same problem posting links Attention Seamus
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REGARDING THE TIMING OF THE EVACUATION. 1st call that I can find comes from “Crawford Texas” Sat, Aug. 27, 2005 no time given http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/12494800.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp Mandatory Evacuation Ordered by Mayor: Sat, Aug. 28, 10:00am 2005 http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisiana/index.ssf?/base/news-18/1125239940201382.xml&storylist=louisiana Link given by the “scrop!” --------- Now here is the best Link that I found describing the evacuation plan! Louisiana revamps plan for hurricane evacuation http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/2005-04-13-Lousiana-evacuation_x.htm?POE=WEAISVA Posted 4/13/2005 6:11 PM Updated 4/14/2005 6:42 PM Involving Hurricane Ivan - Plan still in effect for this one ---------------------- Best read the article, but here are a few quotes: Quote: “Preparing for evacuations would begin at least 72 hours …
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Posted by scorp on September 4, 2005 at 9:20 AM Quote the scorp: “The Evacuation was never planned to begin 72 hrs before the storm hit.” “I find this statement utterly incomprehensible.” From what I have been able to gather since my last post, I find that the 72 hr, time frame was meant as a start of “Voluntary Evacuation”, and a beginning of preparations for “Mandatory Evacuation” Thank you for the LINK! CITY OF NEW ORLEANS COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26 From that site I glean this relevant data. Quote: A.Evacuation Time Requirements ”Using information developed as part of the …
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THE GHOST OF KYOTO COMES CALLING ON NEW ORLEANS "No One Can Say they Didn't See it Coming" http://www.informationclearinghouse...rticle10050.htm After reading the article, we may come to some conclusions as to the competency of the Bush administration. The facts delineated in the above analysis show ---- Bush Ignored FEMA’s warnings that New Orleans was in grave danger warning - Bush & his Administration’s fault They Ignored U.S. Army Corps of Engineers proposal & plan, that New Orleans could be protected from a catastrophic hurricane - Bush & his Administration’s fault Federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up and …
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Yoh “scorp!” I appreciated your link THE TIMELINE FOR KATRINA EVENT From – "Red State .org" http://www.redstate.org/story/2005/9/2/151117/6847 I recommended it as the only timeline on this event that seems to be available Though not official it seems credible. It dealt with the Facts given – Though as you may have guessed, I am not one of REP Conservative nature. Yet I accepted the facts and adjusted my thinking. As unsavory as those facts may have seemed to me. EG> “The Mayor should have his ASS kicked! Now we can get facts out of the mouth of “HELL” good brother! Facts are …
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Yoh! Rabbit! Welcome Back! Try not to be so Rabbid! Go Get Em! Just don't Kill em!
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Yoh! Think4yourself! Quote: “What we are seeing in New Orleans is liberalism at work” You might do you well to review the thread, or perhaps read through it for the first time. You are making a Jackass of yourself. You will be pleased to note with your review, If you undertake it. That what is being offered here is not right or left wing politics. But FACTS, derived from the post mortem being done on the “CORPSE” of a major American city. A city that has succumbed to Bumbling Incompetence. Quote scorp “…….it was almost guaranteed that the levees would fail. …
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YOH Bush Apologists! Mayor Nagin et al I have already proven to myself by the examination of the facts available that he has been remiss. I can perceive that. Given the facts. We give you FACTS regarding Senior Bush’s Incompetence’s and you slither, slime and scurry about, like a cockroach on the kitchen table inorder to avoid the LIGHT. I wish I had more time to invest in this but the Rabbit is, “Makein Bacon” out of you oinkers. The lagomorph is murderin you slope heads, and this is after I told him not to kill anybody! You’ve already given yourself …
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Pray tell! What the HELL do you Apologists think the “Federal Government” is there for? Just to collect taxes and hand our policy and grants to, giant multinationals. Better know as “Corporate Welfare” Wefare is OK as long as it is on the RIGHT side of the tracks. But Levee’s – What profit in Levees? You build Em, and that’s it! You can’t sell em at a profit can you! Or is it their Job to institute perpetual WAR. So as to keep the shareholders of, “Mega Biggo, War Mongering Defense Contractors, Happy??. Let’s o keep the quarterly bottom line LOOKIN …
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Time Time Got to Go
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Quote Liz “$100 billion is going to be spent, according to the news media now - and a few days ago, Bushie wouldn’t even pledge them $10” And a thank You Liz for bringing that Fact to light again. For there in is the whole issue precisely, distilled and made simple, yet wonderfully elegant. It is made to fit into the proverbial nutshell! The US Army Corps of Engineers quoted a price of 16 billion bucks for a plan and a program that would save New Orleans from a class 5 Hurricane. A hurricane that this Administration was repeatedly warned << …
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Yoh! Ramjet henceforth A.K.A. "Willful Ignorance" Please return to top of Thread. And review. Then try and Sell your crap to "Gerard Matthew" Then return your head into the bucket of sand
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Yoh! Natalie Please be INFORMED! Do just a little honest research outside the boundaries of your own political bias and preconceptions. http://omega.twoday.net/stories/521143 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/July2004/Moret0721.htm Depleted Uranium is 70% as radioactive as the purified variety. It is nasty deadly stuff. When will you people cease being "Willfully Ignorant" and deal with the FACTS. Or go make yourself a DU sandwich.
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To All of the “Willfully Ignorant” Please stop refusing to perceive the FACTS and make ridiculous attempts to rationalize and justify atrocity. It looks bad, and damages your case. America’s assent to such atrocity has made us all complicit in that atrocity. And that is a hard FACT for anybody to face. Such FACTS must be faced, courageously. Such FACTS must be sublimated and included within one’s belief system. To refuse FACTS is foolish, and intellectual dishonest To refuse to face a FACT is ultimately Self Defeating. You <( FOOL )> yourself! Better to face the FACTS and DEAL with them, …
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Serve FREE D.U. sandwiches in the Pentagon Cafaterias. See how many takers you get. "Radiation in Iraq Equals 250,000 Nagasaki Bombs" http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Mar04/Nichols0327.htm INSANITY SEEMS TO BE ON A ROLL WITHIN THE DEFENCE DEPT.
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NOW HERE IS THE LIE EXPOSED IN ITS BRAZEN DETAIL! Read this story from BBC where in lies this quote: Pun intended! US REJECTST IRAQ CLEANUP http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2946715.stm Quote from story: A Pentagon spokesman, Lieutenant-Colonel David Lapan, told BBC News Online: "Since then there've been a number of studies - by the UK's Royal Society and the World Health Organisation, for example - into the health risks of DU, or the lack of them. "It's fair to say the 1990 study has been overtaken by them. One thing we've found in these various studies is that there are no long-term effects from …
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Another enlightening article This one by : By Ashraf El-Bayoumi He is a professor of physical chemistry & biophysics in Michigan State University and Alexandria University, and Vice- President of Alexandria Human Rights Association. A CACEROUS WEB OF DECEPTION Read the whole article http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/cancerous-web.html Quotes from the article: Efforts over recent years by human rights activists to expose the disastrous health consequences of using depleted uranium (DU) weapons were for the most part unsuccessful….. Thousands of Iraqi civilians and soldiers were exposed to DU. An unprecedented number of deadly cancers and unusual deformities has since been documented amongst them……. ….cancer related …
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Well If No’Body’s goin to respond-.. I don’t mind drivein another nail into the coffin of corruption. Uranium Weapons Cover-ups in Our Midst Piotr Bein, PhD Independent A brief invited to World Uranium Weapons Conference Hamburg, October 16-19, 2003 Post-conference version, November 1, 2003 http://www.stopnato.org.uk/du-watch/bein/hamburg.htm …We deal With invisible enemies We trade In dangers unseen…-- Afon Claerwen, November 2002
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Da “Rabbit” quote: “HO HO HO! The Colonel is indeed outed.” Quote the Rabbitvoz The Colonel is indeed outed Sorrry! Roger A.K.A. "Willful Ignorant" Has already been demoted to status of LIAR, He has been exposed as a SHILL! Supporters?? What should we do with these FOOLS. Natalie “Sweet Heart,” I do not feel as sorry for you as I do for “Gerard Matthew” Go back to the top, and familiarize yourself, with “Gerard Matthew” Mon Ami: Mc Carthy, wants me not to be RUDE. I have to try too agree with him.. It is not a good idea to be …
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Quote the Rabbit! you are actually coming across as a psychopath, since there really isn’t any question that Waste Uranium is VERY BLOODY DANGEROUS, in the long term. The Rabbit Bites does he not? mauk2 The US .mil is not immune to loud whining such as the anti-DU folks are good at. They have, reluctantly, worked on developing a replacement for DU. This is a tall order, because DU has a combination of properties that literally make it unique as a weapon alloy. What a bummer! It’s going to cost us more money to kill people in miserable ways. What a …
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YOH! mauk2 - Your lame attempts at Ridicule are most humorous. Quote mauk2 “I think what you meant to say is that DU has unintended levels of incidental toxicity. That is a far more nebulous claim, and frankly, one that is unsupported by facts.” and “Nope! I saw this conversation posted on a mailing list I frequent, and since I am a small, weak person in many ways, I came by to inject some facts into the argument” It would seem small & weak would describe not only you, but your intellectual honesty as well as your facts. Try to get …
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You apologists for DU death are a real treat! It's like dealing with cockroaches on a kitchen table. DEATH BY SLOW BURN – WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL? http://www.barremore.net/depleted-uranium-kills.html quote from Article; Read the whole Today in 2005, fourteen years after the first massive use of depleted uranium munitions against Iraq, countless thousands (or millions) of victims cry in vain for relief as the United States and other military forces continue to use DU weaponry. Anyone seeking to end this suicidal chemical and radiological gas warfare is confronting one of the biggest institutional lies in history, the lie that uranium munitions pose …
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God! It's like dealing with a sub human species You can continue in your denials and rants, “There is no Evidence” - “There is no Evidence” - “There is no Evidence” – The Evidence has been placed before you again and again and again. You fail to perceive it and remain “Willfully Ignorant” of it. It does not fit your jaundiced diseased worldview. By arguing your case in a public forum such as this you EXPOSE yourselves. More “Smoke & Mirrors please. The view is disgusting. But it helps us get the word out. Depleted Uranium is only approx. half as …
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Response by mauk2 To: CONFERENCE RESOLUTION 2 FROM THE WORLD DU URANIUM WEAPONS CONFERENCE – SCIENTIST’S COMMUNIQUE http://www.uraniumweaponsconference.de/pdf/conferenceresolution2.pdf “This is a list of findings. I find these unpersuasive, because all too often the folks involved are quite partisan in their opinions.” Well that’s convenient, It is unpersuasive because I do not like what it says. Brilliant! When I asked you to read the report, I suppose I should have asked you to attempt to perceive what it said. This is a statement from Bona Fide Scientists regarding what they know of the nature of DU. They are not Pentagon hacks. PLEASE …
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URANIUM KILLS A DEATH BY SLOW BURN http://www.barremore.net/depleted-uranium-kills.html response by “mauk2” “Lots of words, lots of angst, very few facts” Look again! It is loaded with facts! This time put your perceptive faculties in gear. You simply do not like the strident tone of the Link. It shines the Light on Bloody Hands, Bros.! ---------------------- response by “mauk2” “Now, you are aware that depeleted uranium is less radioactive than natural uranium” NOT - TRUE! And here the Lie should be revealed to you! If by chance you believe your it! True uranium is uranium But the difference in purity contained in …
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Yoh Rabbit! They Is Lower Life Forms Fer Sure! They expose themselves for what they are. People who would spread Toxic Waste upon our world, and who would try to justify it with Toxic Lies. THEY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED
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Again, To all you Apologists of “DU DEATH” Why do you attempt to rationalize and justify spreading our Toxic Nuclear Waste on foreign countries in the form of exploded munitions.? Please explain the “morality” of that Because no matter how you guys slither around together in your bag of snakes, DU is Toxic Nuclear Waste. Or do you dare not even admit that to yourselves. You cannot avoid that fact. How do you deal with that fact. How do you deal with the fact of Gerard Matthew. Or are you so caught up in your game of P.R. & Spin that …
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Again, To all you Apologists of “DU DEATH” and War Crime Why do you attempt to rationalize and justify spreading our Toxic Nuclear Waste on foreign countries in the form of exploded munitions.? Please explain the “morality” of that Please review my previous post and offer me your answer to my questions. I am very curious to know your answers to my queries, and my concerns on the banality of evil.. Other questions you have never addressed. If DU is no more of a problem than Lead, why do they encase Toxic Waste Uranium eg. DU in Lead when it is …
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U.S. MILITARY Heads Roll At The Veterans Administration: Mushrooming Depleted Uranium (DU) Scandal Blamed http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/printer_15334.shtml January 24, 2005 -- The Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter today charged that the reason Veterans Affairs Secretary Anthony Principi stepped down earlier this month was the growing scandal surrounding the use of uranium munitions (DU) in the Iraq War. Writing in the Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter # 169, Arthur N. Bernklau, Executive Director of the Veterans For Constitutional Law Center in New York, stated that "The real reason for Mr. Principi’s departure was really never given, however a special report published by eminent scientist Leuren Moret’s naming depleted …
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Quote the “mauk2” “I used a half hour today chasing down the cites of one of the fever denizens here, and they all had NO FACTS.” More of the same old smoke & mirrors. You have had facts coming at you from numerous sources. You have sickened and demented your own intellect to the point that your faculties refuse to perceive them. "jaslsman" wants us to speak nice to these guys but I ‘m am sorry, the only way to deal with a bare faced LIE is to call it a LIE, and the person who disseminated it, a LIAR. There …
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From a Guardian article discussing the work of Alexandra Miller at the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in Bethesda, Maryland When the dust settles Depleted uranium may be far more dangerous than previously thought and we could be dealing with the fallout for many generations. The small change betrays a big leap in understanding the threat posed by depleted uranium. Evidence is building that DU causes more genetic damage than scientists suspected - even at levels deemed so low as to be non-toxic. Depleted uranium shells are designed to be lethal: the metal is so dense it can crash through the …
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Here is another Study discussed in a Guardian article One person who is convinced DU-induced genetic damage causes real health problems is Albrecht Schott, a biochemist who recently retired from the Free University of Berlin. The day before the start of this Gulf war, he published a study carried out with scientists at the University of Bremen. The study, the first of its kind, looked at genetic damage in the white blood cells of 16 former soldiers who believed they had been exposed to DU in the 1991 Gulf war or in the Balkans. They found that damage to chromosomes in …
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From the Military Toxics Project: DU has been processed and tested at dozens of locations throughout the U.S., creating extensive contamination. - The National Lead Industries factory in Colonie, NY, closed in 1980 after DU particles were found 26 miles away and DU levels in soil were 500 times higher than neighboring areas. (Len Dietz, 1996) - The Starmet plant in Concord, MA dumped 400,000 pound of DU and other toxic substances into an unlined pit over twenty-five years. DU contaminated soil and groundwater, and is moving toward drinking water supplies. (Citizens Research and Environmental Watch, Concord, MA) - The former …
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Yoh Natalie I apologize if I have seemed over zealous. But there have been a lot of “Scientific Facts” thrown your way. We have been around the carousel a couple of times. As the Rabbit sez “If you had an open mind then you should long since have made it up” But I will give you the benefit of the doubt and apologize to you. And see how things go. So Again back to the issue: Quoting Natalie “But then again, as I stated at the outset, I am not a scientist. I only pointed out that there can be much …
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Yoh Rabbit! Don't be to pissed at me. I would like to talk to this guy! Your points are valid. I know this guy is the "Banality of Evil" But he does not know it. I have not the time to read your book, good friend Rabbit. I do not post very often here. I have not the time. I have other obligations. I can't figure how to send you a “per. Mess”. I keep getting screwed over. It keeps telling me to LOG OUT. Behave yourself. Rabbit. I know this guy is a goose. BUT There are people who would …
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“Any member mentioning someone called Rabbit as having been a real person will be terminated” ??????WHAT KIND OF CRAP IS THAT????? That’s weird Jeeze “Rabbit” I told you not to get to pissed. Anyway. YOH! Ramjet ANSWER MY QUESTIONS _ CRETIN _ ANSWER THEM! As far as Rokke, & Moret and their Bona Fides is concerned.. Posted by Ramjet “I guess he does not want to stand up in a court of law and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth under penalty of perjury” He could be brought into a court of law and …
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Speaking of “Morality” here’s a test! See where you stand! [B]THIS IS A TEST[/B] I don't know where it came from. This test only has one question, but it's a very important one. By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally. The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation in which you will have to make a decision. Remember that your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous. Please scroll down slowly and give due consideration to each line. You are in Florida, Miami to be specific. There is chaos all around you caused by a hurricane …
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Ramjet When will you answer my two simple questions! Or when will you LOOK and perceive the face in the mirror! Time to WAKE UP! Ramjet. Answer the questions – FACE THE FACTS! ONE: --- WHY cannot we use our Radioactive waste as landfill? If DU. is no more of a problem than: < Background RAD. A Bag of fertilizer, or a bit or Lead., As you contend! ----- ANSWER – or burn in Hell, like so many Iraqi civilians or US. GI’s TWO ---- If you cannot answer Query ONE WHAT is the Morality of Killing with TOXIC WASTE!. War …
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Natalie, Roger & all DU Apologists A bit of a Re-post here Seems I must remind you. I need a couple of answers from you Answers to questions you have consistently ignored. When will you answer my two simple questions! Or when will you LOOK and perceive the face in the mirror! . Answer the questions – FACE THE FACTS! ONE: --- If DU. is no more of a problem than the Background RAD. in bag of fertilizer, or a bit or Lead., As you contend! ----- ANSWER – WHY cannot we use our Radioactive waste in landfill? WHY is it …
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Yoh! Rabbit & Good Friends. Part I It has been a while. I have been on other fronts. I see "Doger Damebget" and "Nat" have been quoting the same old, same old, again and again. Studies done by Gov. & Corp. shills like them. They keep a vain hope that they will be the last to post on this thread. It would mean points for them. They have never answered my question. If DU is not a problem why is Nuke generated Waste such a problem in this or any other country. They are people that “HAVE BE TOLD” where their …
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Part II I would like now to ask Helbig & Nat. What are you defending? The right to kill with a horrible polluting, disease ridden weapon. Like “Madeline Albright” said when queried about the 500,000 children who had succumbed to the sanctions cruelly imposed on civil population of Iraq. Quote: “That is a price we are willing to pay” Presumably, it was worth the horrible death of 500,000 children to secure a few difficulties for Sadham Hussein, and his criminal. There is the Necro, mindset! And then the war that has cost not only the total destruction, of a sovereign nations …
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Part III This is what Helbig & Natalie have bough into, God help their souls. You friend Rabbit and your Compadre’s have stripped bare these sorry sub human traitors to humanity. Their Necrophilia nakedness appears vile and disgusting before us. Thanks to You All!
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Please Read “proponancy” where “prepotency”. I got careless with the spell check. An EDIT option would be nice.
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Yoh! Skullker Mon Ami In case you are new to this forum. There are some ten pages to this thread. It deals with the issue of depleted uranium in some depth. Roger Ramjet was outted early on. He is Colonel Roger Helbig USAF. retread He is a talking head for the Defense Department’s, disinformation department. Do a web search “helbig” “uranium” If you want to get a good overview of the “Depleted Uranium” controversy, you have come to the right place. Skim through the whole thread. You will soon be able to separate the wheat from the chaff. In case you …
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Poor Old Roger has already been skinned a couple of times here. But it's never to late to peel some more bark off the old stump. Go get him "skullker" I'm off for a while, and a goodnight to ya all. Sleep tight R.R.
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Ramjet – aka Col. Roger Helbig You are the only “SHILL” that has been outted on this forum. Everybody else here seems to be speaking for themselves. Any cursory review of this thread will make plain that you and your “proponency” have been dealt with directly and definitively. Your disinformation has been thoroughly debunked. Both Scientifically and Morally. Why don’t you get you AZZ back to Baghdad, bombing Babies with DU. You probably do a better job of that than you do as a “propagandist” You defend the indefensible and that is inexcusable. Its hard not to get nasty with such …
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Yoh GhostRabbit Can you believe that toad! Hanging around like a spider in a dark corner just waiting for some guy like the skullker to Be Bop By. I guess he figured we had gone fishing! From: Posted by Ramjet on October 4, 2005 at 3:57 AM To: Posted by Ramjet on October 22, 2005 at 6:01 PM This guy sat in the Bush. For 18 days! (pun intended) These articles show the stubborn refusal of the Defense Department to properly study the problem. http://www.iicph.org/docs/du_update_1_3.htm The work by Dr. Hari Sharma of the University of Waterloo is especially revealing. As is …
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Yoh Rabbit I'm having problems to. Done a google search "GhostRabbit" Almost got yer address don't disappear! OK ! Eadroa Pravda not Eadora
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Rabbit Yer One Hell Of a Rabbit! We Stuck another one up the Ramjet's Pipe! Yabbidy Gobitus Yadimos! Give me time. I got fires in Living Room! Gotta go fer a bit.
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I figure Colonel Helbig has ducked below the radar again. He disappeared for 18 days before. This thread was pretty well inactive till the skullker happend on board. The DOD cockroach probably thought we had moved on and he could come back out onto the kitchen table. Well the lights go on, the alarms blare out, and Squasho! I don't think he expected that.
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Answer: Yes. and a mean old narlely one that stll spends time in the hills, This thread has been a good alliance has it not. If the DU Zombies try to return within the next few decades we'll have the traps set out. Got to go for now. Probably see you on that other thread in a while. Take care and keep your STOMPIN boots on!
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Kudos To You David Lindorff Your post : Posted by dlindorff on October 25, 2005 at 3:49 PM Is a keeper. It goes in my DU file, I remember a valuable very posting of yours from early on, on this thread. I’ll will go with your figures. Well this is a loaded EGG ain’t it! 200 ton estimate is laughable – or it could make you weep depending on your frame of mind. The allegations that they do not use DU in bombs & bunker busters is ridiculous. The holes left all over Baghdad by these ordinances are HOT well over …
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Friends Short on time! But I have to take a swing at these AZZ holes. Ramjet SAYS and Quote: “Unfortunately, the real world has no DU M-16 bullets ..they would be quite useless as any infantryman could tell them .. they have little stopping power, just aren’t big enough to even stop terrorists let alone a tank!” Another LIE Col. Helbig http://web.nmsu.edu/~dboje/Tamara/ Tamara: Journal of Critical Postmodern Organization Science. David M. Boje, Ph.D. What do they have to say about M-16 DU Ammo! A 1984 Uranium Traffic special report, “Uranium Bullets,” had this to say about the deadliness of the DU …
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Yoh Mon Ami’s Brian your off side. Here’s some dope on DU Bunker Busters. What’s your take on the M-16 DU ammo info! Take your time & do the homework! I tbelieve D.L. has. US ADMITS THE USE OF DU IN BUNKERBUSTERS http://www.shunpiking.com/DODU/MA0002-WA-deple.htm THEY CONTRADICT THEMSELVES DoD Claims 'Depleted' Uranium (DU) Not Used in 'Bunker Busters' How then to explain Congressional testimony, patent specifications and DOD cruise missile descriptions? http://www.traprockpeace.org/bunker_busters_kilpatrick.html HOW BUNKER BUSTERS WORK! http://science.howstuffworks.com/bunker-buster3.htm You guessed it Depleted Uranium! ROYALK SOCIETY URGES CLEANUP OF DU WHERE BUNKER BUSTERS WERE USED. http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,938336,00.html#article_continue Tell me they don’t know what they are talking …
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OK Cool down. But, In an end analysis 3000 tons is more believable than 200 If you are not told the truth you have to estimate it given the best data & info available. One Bunk.Bust. can weight 2 to 7 tons. Not to mention innumerable other DU ordinance. Did you or did you not see "Shock & Awe"! How many Iraqi tanks destroyed? Nobody counts! I wonder WHY! To Brian! A I will offer an apology! I'm runnin hot on this one, and I have other irons in other fires. To fast off the take – perhaps But I do …
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Yoh! Col. Helbig Why don't you "Ramjet" some of those M-16 DU flechettes you told us don't exist! Like where the sun don't shine, lowlife!
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A little more data towards a more educated guess! REMAINS OF TOXIC BULLETS LITTER IRAQ The Monitor finds high levels of radiation left by US armor-piercing shells By Scott Peterson, Christian Science Monitor, May 15, 2003 "The Monitor visited four sites in the city - including two randomly chosen destroyed Iraqi armored vehicles, a clutch of burned American ammunition trucks, and the downtown planning ministry - and found significant levels of radioactive contamination from the US battle for Baghdad. In the first partial Pentagon disclosure of the amount of DU used in Iraq, a US Central Command spokesman told the Monitor …
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Thank You Rabbit! How good are these guys at MATH do you suppose, Rab. ?? ADD IT UP FOOLS! 200 !!! you have to be stupid to suppose or even suggest that! Its like trying to hide an elephant dung under a mouse turd! Really a stupid thing to try and do! Typical retard, military, dysfunctional, disinformation. They should have given us a 1500 or 2000 ton estimate. That might be cause for some confusion.
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YOH! radchemist Parachutist Extraordinaire! Review the thread. You are on old news Bros. Do your homework, review the thread, or go back to kindergarten. The subject of Rokke & Leuren are old news on this thread. It has been dealt with thoroughly! If you have something to add, add it. What you are chucking in now, is OLD NEWS. We are on LIES regarding DU ordinance and it’s use. Do not try to change the subject to old hat character assassinations. It will not work with us! Deal from the top of the deck or take a walk. Take the time …
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Yoh! radchemist Quote the radchemist: “I am a scientist myself with 25 years experience on dealing with radioactive materials. I have yet to see credible evidence that depleted uranium is a serioius problem. A minor problem yes, but not one that is causing birth defects or cancer.” Well IF, you’re a scientist your credibility has just taken a nose dive! As “scientific method” radchemist your technique stinks! You obviously have not done as I asked and reviewed the thread have you? So far, you have only brought your preconceived opinion to the table. Quote: “I am a scientist…..yabbitty yak” and “I …
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Yoh David! So whats this about the Rabbit being banned!
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Hello: radchemist, Natalie & Col Helbig The Rokke, Morett Canard has been done to death by you guys. If Rokke and Morett are engaged in Fabrication and Lie as you allege. Fabrication and Lie that does damage to the effort to prosecute the so-called “War on Terrorism” Do you not think for a moment that they would be charged and brought to the dock by the DOD, proponents for the use of DU? Why do you think they have formulated and passed the so-called “Patriot Act.” The fact is the Government and DOD dare not touch them with a barge pole! …
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Quote the Rabbit "And HAIL to the Pale Rider who comes like the Wrath of the Gods and brings poignant and overhwelming reality to a thread" I will second that! Pale Rider! "Wraith Of Truth!"
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Yer A God Sent Fer Sure!
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Wow ! Thank you Seamus Holman! I am weeping! Thank you! So Much! What can I add that has not been said twice over! But Thank You! ITT! Pale Rider, David, do not get lost! Kcooper85@cogeco.ca And thumbs up! To the Rabbit!
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And special for the skullker. This thread would have died a silent death but for you.! You jump started it again!
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Yoh! Quote Col. Helbig “Did any of you see the PBS show on the removal of the uranium from the German atomic pile (first generation nuclear reactor) .. one of the Army ALSOS team members still had a piece of German uranium encased in plastic in his desk ..and that was enriched uranium, not U238 “ Now there is a Hell of an Idea Col.Helbig! Get yourself a piece of that stuff. The enriched variety I mean. Nothing but the best for the officer in charge of the “Los Alamos Proponency Directive” Keep it as a memento of the quality time …
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Yoh! Quote Col. Helbig “Did any of you see the PBS show on the removal of the uranium from the German atomic pile (first generation nuclear reactor) .. one of the Army ALSOS team members still had a piece of German uranium encased in plastic in his desk ..and that was enriched uranium, not U238 “ Now there is a Hell of an Idea Col.Helbig! Get yourself a piece of that stuff. The enriched variety I mean. Nothing but the best for the officer in charge of the “Los Alamos Proponency Directive” Keep it as a memento of the quality time …
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Nat. READ THE THREAD Numerous studies have been done that show DU to be a serious problem Non of these have been done by the DOD however I wonder Why? You have never answered my question. Hurry up now the clock on this thread is rtunning out If DU is not a problem why is Nuke generated U238 Waste such a problem in this or any other country. Why do they have to bury equipment polluted with DU under tons of sand. UPDATE ON DEPLEATED URANIUM AND GULF WAR SYNDROME Part 1 of 3 Human Studies by Rosalie Bertell, Ph.D., GNSH …
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Repeat the Lie! Repeat the Lie! Repeat the Lie! Repeat the Lie! Repeat the Lie! And when the Lie is exposed Move on to another Lie This has been the History of this thread. Pertinent questions were ignored. Why? So the United states Of America can continue using Depleted Uranium. A weapon that has been shown to have serious effect long after its battlefield use. AND THAT IS A WAR CRIME LADIES AND GENTLEMEN> That fits the agreed upon International definitions of War Crime. And that is what a number of people on this thread have spent hours trying to defend …
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hello - Hello - HELLO - Is anybody Out There.? I thought the plug on this channel was pulled a couple of years ago!
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