Phshaw... What rock have these writers been living under? Dan Rather as a respected journalist? Is there any truth that the American media caused us to lose the Vietnam War? If Dan Rathers agenda was to actually come to fold, everyone at CBS,NBC,ABC, and CNN would be sent to the gulag. I can't belive you guys actually believe this crap!
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The question is....why is conservative media driven by consumers and liberal media driven by private donations? Air America does not have enough sponsers for one market...lest XM radio. If it wasn't for private money ( and government money i.e. NPR), liberal radio would have no voice.
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Marvin, Many of us complain about taxes. Yet we seem to be unaware of the “tax” we pay to support the right’s media machine. We pay that tax everytime we purchase a product or service that finances their views.
I don't understand this statement...can you please enlighten me?
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Katherine, Given all the scientifc data that points to “within 50 years” our world will be pretty much destroyed as we know it unless corrective measures are taken immediately, I would suggest public outrage at the waste of energy/thus pollution of our environment for this nonsensical form of media. So...how about we install digital switches in each home and depending on the owner or renters work schedule..we cut the electricity off for their 8 hour work day?...that would save a lot of energy...those that chose to sit at home and not work just have to learn to live without electricity …
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Katherine, Let's enforce even more government control and lean toward more facism...let's do what the Italians do...limit the input of power into the home...In Italy...you can only have 3000 watts of power....if you exceed that amount the circuit breakers pop...try running your dryer and your oven at the same time...you can't..the circuit breakers pop...'tis would be a good way of reducing energy cost...might take you a week to do 3 loads of laundry...but think of the energy savings....
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First, the United States faces the imminent danger of bankruptcy, which, if it occurs, will render all further discussion of foreign policy moot.
Good point, but not for the reasons the author stated. If we go down, so does the rest of the world.
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There are too many things wrong with this article to have a decent discussion. If you agree with this article then I suggest you quit following your blind faith. Just a tidbit of research on any one of his claims will lead to the unravelling of his whole diatribe.
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Brian, http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/24/opinion/polls/m main619122.shtml another 10% and it will be better than an impeachment.
Anyone using CBS news as a reliable source is immediately discredited.
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Kuya, I can’t help but be distressed at Americans’ long-standing (and potentially self-destructive) cultural aversion to anticipating outcomes beyond a few years hence. As I read the article, that idea recurred; neither Bush nor the country at large seems to grasp that there’s a future to consider, beyond the next election and beyond the next purchase at the mall.
Oh puhleese, the reason we are in the ME is to bring them into the 21 st century. If Bush was just worried about the next election, he would have pulled a Clinton and bombed some tents in the desert.
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Thelonious, From my perspective, that of a 45 year old working class family man, the analogy is dead on target and I believe the crooks that have taken over the federal government are hell bent on destroying it. As for supporting my argument I would have to show you my 2004 tax return indicating how much and the percentage of my income taken by your president vs. the value of government services I received in return.
So, what are you actively doing about your taxes and where does is say that YOU should receive benefits for YOUR tax burden? I prefer …
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Brian, The latest Gallup Poll also shows the highest public pessimism over the economy in two years, with 33 percent saying it is getting better and 59 percent saying it is getting worse. the sweet smell of sucsess.President Bush’s approval rating dropped from 52% last week to 45% this week. If the survey is correct, he is losing support from male Republicans.Thirty-five percent of those surveyed said they approved of the way Bush is handling Social Security, down three points since January and the lowest level of support for Bush on this issue ever recorded in Post-ABC polls.
Your sources lack …
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Margaret, I don’t know a single non-Rep. that thinks everything is dandy. It’s just that only a minor tweaking is needed, not a total demolition. The baby boomer glitch can be handled by removing the taxation cap and reversing Bush’s tax cuts for the rich. End of statement. That incurs no further borrowing and will see us comfortably for many, many decades to come. Let those who wish to invest take out IRA’s or 401(k)’s. Everybody with half a brain can see that the goal of the Republicans is to dismantle the most efficient and successful program in U.S. history simply …
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Margaret, Also, anyone who doesn’t realize that our government is currently slipping down that proverbial slope to fascism doesn’t really understand the definition of fascism.
You sound just like the naysayers in 1860, 1917, 1941, and 2003. The sky is not falling and you should study up on your U.S. history a little better so you don't keep making these idiotic post.
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Colin, That is exactly wrong. Bush did not receive more votes than Kerry in 2004. I suggest you do more research into election fraud and rigging, because thats what happened, and thats the root of all these problems, including terrible foreign policy.
What reputable source are you relying on?
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J, Support the charge. (Can anyone on the left do that?) What specifically leads you to this conclusion?
They can never support their accusations with fact. They believe anything that makes the other side look bad, no matter how ridiculous it sounds.
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Lamont, The Palestinians
First thing, there is no such thing as a Palestinian(s). Read up on your Palestinian history. Doh!...you can't, there isn't any.
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Lamont, In your rant you forget to mention the cause of the Israeli aggression is due to Palestinian terorism. I personally think the Israelis have been quite humble in their dealings with the Palestinians and other Arabs. If my neighbor wanted to rip my and everyone of my peoples head off and spit down my neck no matter what the cost, I would have attacked and annihilated them long ago. The pancake girl is no innocent. Read a few more sources on Rachel Corry (sp). She should have denounced her American citizenship and started a new life in the ME. She …
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Jane, Let’s get back to Chalmers Johnson. How much do people in the uS understand how they appear to other people in the world? Have you seen the news about a poll conducted by an Austrlian think tank-the Lowy Institute-of the views held by asurtalians about the US? The results were interesting and discomforting to our neo-con lite copy cat conservatives in this country. The implications for US allies let alone their enemies are interesting
I don't think we should worry so much about what other countries think of us, that's a Clinton holdover. Other countries should worry what we think …
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Matilida, Regarding Iraqi body counts....you have any source that is neutral? That 17,000 figure seems kinda low. I hear the libs and dems keep spouting the 100,000 dead Iraqi's. What was the criteria for "innocent" in counting the dead?
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Matilida, Between 27 September 2000 and 10 February 2003 Palestinians were responsible for the deaths of 709 Israelis. During the same time period Israeli soldiers killed 2007 Palestinians.
What is the significance of those dates? Didn't the intifada start back in the mid '90s?
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Margaret, I come here and a few other sites to gain further information of a non-neocon bent and opinions with which to forge my own.
Then you shouldn't read the thread and just stick with the article.
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Craig, No, I am not an internet troll. My hope is not to entice other users into angry or fruitless responses. That often is the result, but it is not my hope
That's funny....
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Cynthia, How long has the "Fall of the American Empire" been happening? Just since Bush took office I bet eh?
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Chuck, Because across the board the most vociferous supporters of US Foreign Policy and our new imperial mobilizations take their information straight from the politicians and the mainstream media
Are you serious??? The Main Stream Media (MSM) tried to bring down a sitting president in a time of war during an election with false allegations and you think that people whom support the presidents foreign policy follow the MSM??? You sir...are delusional.
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LiberalandProud, The fact is that until GW Bush, our country did not condone pre-emptive war,
Didn't Lincoln invade the South pre-emptively? I think so...
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Chuck, What I mean is that the official story
You know there is more to it than what you are stating. First point, a plane has never been used as a weapon during a hijacking...I'll just stop right here on explaining some of the events on 9-11. Not sure anyone can but to make accusations based on assumptions is wrong. Occam's Razor does not fit into 9-11.
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Joseph, Any layman through stats can prove that ice cream causes murder.
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Lamont, Well do you count those “free-speech pens” where they lock up people voicing an alternative view far away so no one can see the demononstrators? I don't know what the dems were afraid of to put those people in pens. Ask your local dem congressman that you support? Again...name me one innocent American that has been hurt by the Patriot Act? Just one...not some dumba** anarchists that just want to fight...
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Brian, After Zogby was proven to have altered his polling results in favor of Kerry, how on eath can you believe ANY poll? Polls were only useful for pundits and now they aren't useful to anyone.
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Matt, No..I'm not J. Craig...funny how you should accuse me tho. I just found this site today and read Chalmers inaccurate assessment of the workings of the world. I started reading the thread and some of the..uhm...lest just say I couldn't keep my fingers away from the keyboard.
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Lamont, Why do you accuse everyone whom disagrees with you of being a racist? Ya know what I say to people whom accuse "pubbies" of being racists....that the first republican president...freed the slaves...put that in your bong and smoke it buddy....
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Margaret, We are cleaning up after Clintons mess. You have no clue. Sit back and drink your favorite spirit and let the real men take care of the good ol' U.S. of A. and reap the benefits.
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Margaret, Obviously you didn’t even bother to read the link left about the CBS story. Actually, the secretary states (and later recanted) that GWB was a crappy Guard who was disliked by Killian for his bad attitude and poor performance. The story was true, just not the documents. Funny how GWB could escape his past once again on a feeding frenzy caveat by the right-wingers.
What poor performance? What were his performance ratings? Is that stated? I don't want to hear some 70-80 year old secretary talk about a fighter pilot, National Guard or not. If there is factual written evidence …
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Brian, USATODAY/CNN/GALLOP Poll....sez it all.
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Margaret, I can't do it now...it's almost my bedtime...but tomorrow I will do a google search on Bush/Kerry election fraud and get back to you...
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Margaret, I have a BA in US History Then you should be ashamed of yourself....
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Brian, I don’t see any facts comming from jm I guess I'm a troll...I'm just commenting on the dissertation that has no facts to back itself up...
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Lamont, I will not get started on a discussion of the Civil War...the Civil War was a response on pre-emptive strike strategy...Lincoln...the first republican president....the president whom freed the slaves....the president whom threw out the constitution because of war...
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Lamont & All, I am not going to hijack this thread to discuss the civil war. Make a new thread and we will discuss states rights. Like I said in an earlier post, I just found this site today. I am finding it terribly lacking. The users should learn HTML so other users can have direct links instead of utilizing copy and paste. This site is much to slow to copy and paste. Just replying to messages is slow. This site need more bandwidth and more links for navigation. I have enjoyed my time on here. I hope to come back …
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Lummy, Believe me...it was dun on purpose...doh! Are you really a beauty or are you one of those people that is described as habing an "inner beauty"?
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Ok...it's almost my bedtime so "ping" me and we'll talk tomorrow...
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Lummy, This link will give folks an idea where ET gets it’s info.
Yawn....oh well..off to bed...some of us have to get up with the sun to ensure Americans can be free....nite
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Lefty, "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini Now Lamont, for the win, which country in the World has the most complete merger of state and corporate power? A. The U.S. B. The U.S. C. The U.S. D. All of the above
This is a statement I can agree with you on...I can name two off the type of my head that is trying to run the U.S. Government...Businessman George Soros and Ketchup Lady Heinz....using their Billions to try and control the U.S. of A.
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USA military foreign policy is the biggest terrorist threat in the world.
Can you please explain this comment using facts and a solid hypothesis?
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Brian, Considering your posts on polls. I did some internet research on polling. Even professional pollsters admit that polling is no more than "witchcraft" at best and has no scientific ability to "predict" the future. I personally would find a better source than polling to backup my assertions....but that's just me.
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Lamont, Well polls were all the evidence people needed in the Ukrain… even the Bush administration quoted them, so you just agreed that the Bush administration is neither sane nor rational.
Take this for what it's worth....Ukrainian citizens during WWII welcomed the Germans as liberators.
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Wwoods, JM,if the Republican politicians spent as much time enforcing taxation upon the rich as do devising schemes to let the rich keep their money through tax cuts that don’t stimulate the economy(don’t tell me about all the"manufacturing jobs” Bush created,hamburger jobs are not manufacturing despite republican deception),perhaps you wouldn’t have to pay so much in taxes. Q:What is taxation percentage on a minimum wage worker? A:22-25%
Assuming the average minimum worker is taxed on $10K...a fulltime minimum wage worker earns between $14K-$15k a year and after deductions their tax is approximately 10%.... http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040tt.pdf
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Lamont, well does a federal debt of $43trillion dollars - 45% owed to the rest of the world - and a wealth of $47trillion dollars conjur up apropriate emotional reactions?
Maybe the next time we have a 9-11 our Government can let the world collapse into a depression. I wish someone on here could REALLY explain how our government loans/borrows money to/from other nations. Apparently Mr. Cranston doesn't. Can a money expert please explain how we can give billions to Indonesia after an earthquake when we are already in debt, according to you guys, to the point of bankruptcy?? …
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Lummy, Sounds interesting. Inspires me to recommend the book I’m reading now; “Pocahontas: Medicine Woman, Spy, Entrepreneur, Diplomat” by Paula Gunn Allen.
You really should read books on fact...not fiction...
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Lamont, That claim didn’t work for the native-americans, the australian-aboriginals or anyone else.
You're showing your ignorance of American history. Assuming you are an Aussie, why in the h..e...double toothpicks are you so into American politics and history? Don't you have enough problems in your own country to worry about than the U.S. of A.? If you are not an American, I'll agree with you disagreeing with American politics or doctrine, but do not criticize my country when you aren't even a citizen.
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Lamont, "that bottomless-pit-of-ignorance Lamont” You are of course free to refute anything I say whenever you please.
and so are you able to refute..and I see you aren't refuting his observation of your ignorance....
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Merlin, Its like I’ve only had 2 hours sleep for the last 3 days and the damn alarm goes off. Oh, my head. I’ve been dreaming of JM_64 for some ungodly reason. There must be a heaven, I think, because I hear Dante laughing..."Ha Ha...He’s back” I struggle to sit up and there he is...NO! its not JM_64!...Its J Craig, spewing words that sound like someone pounding on an empty drum next to my ear. The words are full of sound and fury yet as empty as the drum, and as jaring as rap music turned up to high volume. I …
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Lummy, What’s that smell?
Maybe you should have taken a bath this week...you women need to take care of yourselves on a daily basis...didn't your mother teach you anything?
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R.B., If you can't add anything intelligent or constructive to the conversation, puhleese stay out of the thread. Your post did not help the naysayers at ITT. Sorry.
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Lamont...dude...don't blow a fuse...settle down...are you happy? Is your life ok? If your personal life is so meaningless that you are going to have a stroke over an internet chat thread, you need some help buddy. Stand back and smell the flowers...'k? Now, on to your ramble...
You mean land wasn’t taken from the Natives? They weren’t driven from their homes? They weren’t entirely exterminated? Which of these things did not happen to the Native-Americans on a grand scale?
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Dear RB, Then please don't respond to my post. If I had nothing intelligent to say, then you should have not responded. Sincerely, JM
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Merlin, Is this site a lovefest between liberals and the leftwing agenda or a site for informative and productive ideals? I'll listen to any argument, and if I find holes in it, I will respond accordingly, without emotion and rhetoric. I will leave and quit posting on this site if it is just a lovefest for liberals and the leftwing agenda. JM
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Lamont, My god, you are an ignorant racist bastard.
My god....you are an ignorant racist bastard. Just because I was born a white anglo saxon protestant! I am tired of your racists statements against me because of my race. I will not stand for your racism! If you cannot stop your racist attacks against me than I will no longer talk to you. Have a good life Lamont and good riddance!
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Merlin, I don't play games and I refuse to play them with you. Come on, say something smart.
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Lamont, Please read.... Part I.... Inner City Minister Sues Democratic Party For Reparations: Over 200 Law Professors Review The Brief Seattle, January 3, 2005 - On December 10th 2004, an inner-city minister, Rev. Wayne Perryman, filed a class action Reparation lawsuit (in the United States District Court in Seattle Case No. CV04-2442), alleging that "because of their racist past practices, the Democratic Party should be required to pay African Americans Reparations." Perryman said that he "based his case on the research that he gathered during the past five years" while writing the three editions of his latest book: Unfounded Loyalty: An …
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Lamont, Please read... Part II Perryman said, "To conceal the truth of their racist past (and as part of their effort to deceive the public), the Democratic Party made a conscience decision not to mention or disclose their true and complete history. On their official website they failed to disclose that as a party: · Democrats opposed the Abolitionist. · Democrats supported slavery and fought and gave their lives to expand it. · Democrats supported and passed the Fugitive Slave Laws of 1793 &1854. · Democrats supported and passed the Missouri Compromise to protect slavery. · Democrats supported and passed the …
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Lamont, Please read... Part III Congressional records reveal that there wouldn’t be a question of Reparations today had Democratic President Andrew Johnson signed Senate Bill 60 (in 1866) which would have given each African American family 40 acres and a mule. Instead, Johnson vetoed the Bill and continued to block other key pieces of legislation that were designed to bring about "equality" for African Americans. Perryman further argues that: During the past 200 years, our government operated under a two party system which directed, developed and determined the policies of our country. Whatever the government did or did not accomplish (particularly …
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Lamont, Pleas read.... Part IV The big question they had during the era of slavery was, whether or not a law or a person's actions violated the Constitution. The goal of the Democrats was to never allow the Constitution to be amended to include blacks as citizens. They wanted the freedom to treat African Americans as property (not as humans), without federal interference (this was their primary reason for fighting for their so-called States Rights). This was also the reason why Democrats were opposed to adding the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution and why they praised and supported …
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Lamont, Please read.... Part V Perryman said, "Since our experiences are similar to those inflicted on the Jews by the Nazi Party, and since Reparations under the Civil Liberties Act of 1988 affords Plaintiffs redress for past injuries; and amends for the wrong inflicted," he asked the court for the following: WHEREFORE, Plaintiff, on Plaintiff own behalf and on behalf of the Class, prays for judgment as follows: 1. Declaring this action to be a proper class action and certifying Plaintiff as Class representative under Rule 23 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure; 2. Awarding compensatory damages and rescission in …
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