" . . . [I]t is high time to ask whether or not the dismantlement of Jewish settlements and redeployment of troops will advance Israeli-Palestinian peace." That's a rediculous question. The only way that there will EVER be peace between Israelis and the Philistines is when one, the other, or both are all dead. The Philistines have proven, 1,000's of times, that they do not now, nor have they ever wanted, peace. They want Israel, and they want the Jews out, dead or alive (and preferably dead). The only logical step for Israel is to build a Chinese wall between themselves …
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NR, Again, you argue like a conservative. Your continued employment of false premises is transparent and tiresome. Neither I, nor anyone on this forum whose comments I've read worship the democratic party. Perhaps it can be said that some of the conservative trolls who leave droppings here worship the republican party. Conservatives are religious by nature. Worship comes naturally to them. Liberals aren't so superstitious or inclined to be led by a proslytizer. As you know from my prior posts, I greatly admire Ralph Nader and think he would be a good President. But, I would rather have a liberal in …
Posted to Addressing the State of the Movement
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In otherwords, it's not just environmentalism that is dead. It's we, and our posterity, who are all dead.
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NR, it's not going to happen in your lifetime.
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Zizek quoting Nietzsche: ". . . Moreover, the reasons we give for requiring an army imply that our neighbor, who denies the desire for conquest just as much as our own state, and who, for his part, also keeps an army only for reasons of self-defense, is a hypocrite and a cunning criminal who would like nothing better than to overpower a harmless and awkward victim without any fight. . . . " This kind of argument, although true, overlooks the underlying cause of this kind of behavior - the primative, vestigial, human survival instinct for tribalism. Pretty pathetic, don't you …
Posted to Give Iranian Nukes a Chance
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Richard2 said: "In that case, if Bush times it right, it will solidify his power in Congress in 2006 once the solid phalanx of evangelical extremists are convinced that this event would bring about their much-craved-for Armageddon and End of Days biblical prophecy." Very good. But, you have to complete the analysis. Bush's only true motivation is money and power. How will Bush use these events as a subterfuge for self service - the personal enrichment of the Bush crime family and their friends.
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Richard2, BTW, when you look closely at christian extremists and their belief in the impending armageddon, it seems that they could easily take the next step - to martardom, en masse. Obviously, some have already taken the leap, the abortion doctor assassin comes to mind.
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IsThisThingOn, If you think dems hate America, you are a mindless, Douche Limbag listening, Dildo-head, automaton. You are just more proof that there are only 2 kinds of conservatives: (1) idiots, and (2) crooks.
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ITTO, Declaiming that "liberals hate America" is what, argument, analysis, insight, or mindless parroting of clowns like Sean Hannity and Douche Limbag? You are weak and a hypocrite. Bush invaded Iraq to make money for himself, his family and friends in the form of "consulting fees" (read kickbacks) in exchange for no-bid contracts primarily to Halliburton. Bush was planning to invade Iraq before the 2000 election. He was so busy planning his subterfuge to invade Iraq that he completely disregarded the PDB warning of Bin Ladin's imminent attack. Bush just didn't care about that, and he still doesn't. If Bush had …
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For chopper: "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power" - Benito Mussolini quotes (Italian dictator, mentor to Adolf Hitler and founder of fascism, 1883-1945)
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Scorp, Are you related to G.W. Bush. He has established that he is the biggest idiot on the planet. There are only 2 kinds of conservatives: 1) idiots, and 2) crooks. Scorp would be an idiot.
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Scorp is a classic machiavellian conservative troll. He cannot make an argument without the use of multiple false premises, express and implied, he accuses others of the crimes for which he is most guilty, and he is an insufferable hypocrite. First he calls Barbara Boxer stupid for having beleived Bush's lies about WMD, then he goes on himself to lie about the real reason that U.S. Troups are in Iraq and declaimes false premises, express and implied about liberal and conservative positions. The ONLY reason that U.S. Troups are in Iraq is so that Bush, his family and friends, can make …
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"We don't believe in planners and deciders making the decisions on behalf of Americans." -G.W. Bush, 9/6/2000 "I am wondering if there is a chat site where they let the thinkers and discussers in . . . ." -IsThisThingOn, 8/18/2005 Pth . . . chchc . . . BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. The "thinkers and discussers." Chchchc . . . pthth . . . BLAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ITTO, stop! Yer killin' me.
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BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA . . . help . . . I gotta cramp . . . AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Posted to Give Iranian Nukes a Chance
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Is that a bad thing?
Posted to A New Standard?
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The Voting Rights Act is in serious jeopardy.
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Richard, I couldn't add anything to your observations.
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NaderRader said: "Kerry Receives 100 Times More in Contributions from GOP Donors than Nader . . . ." Hey NR, come over here for a sec. Here try on this pretty white coat. I know, the sleeves are a little long and they have these funny straps, but, just try it. There you go . . . boom, bang, pow, umph, slam, bam, urrrrrghhhaaah! OK boys, you can take NR to the booby hatch now.
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Natalie Said: "True, but why in an article with obvious partisan overtones would the author leave out the salient fact that those most vehemently opposing black enfranchisement were virtually all Democrats?" Natalie, our resident pathological liar is back. Why, Natalie, do you not explain that in the 60's the republican supporters of civil rights were northern liberals and the southern and the democrat segregationists were southern conservatives like Strom Thermond (converted to republican), George Smathers, Spessard Holland, Eugene Talmadge, Richard Russell, etc., etc., all extreme right wing, christian fundimentalist, wackos of the highest order. All of them would be proud republicans …
Posted to Keep the Voting Rights Act Alive
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Jane Doe said: "It is shameful that the US which wants to export its system everywhere, at the point of a gun if necessary, has proved to the world once again that the most precious possession a person has in a so called democracy, the right to vote, is so easily removed in the good old US of A." No Jane, the USA hasn't taken anyone's right to vote away. I am part of the USA and I havn't done it. No liberal American I know has done it. Rather, it is the crooked conservative scum who have done it, with …
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MN, American liberals have no more part in depriving American citizens of their right to vote than they do in the continued fraudulent war in Iraq - the Bush/Cheney kickback for no-big contract scam war. I for one will not take the blame for the crimes of conservatives. If you want to, you have my blessing.
Posted to Keep the Voting Rights Act Alive
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How about it? What are you trying to say about it?
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Itty, bitty, teeny, weeny Natalie, Thank you for pointing out the ancient history of the Democratic party. Now lets take a look a the current history of the republican party. Let's see, didn't the republican racist, G.W. Bush campaign at racist/segregationist Bob Jones's University, twice? Didn't republcan racist Daddy Bush reveal his racist hatred for blacks with his Willie Horton campaign? Didn't republican racist Jeb Bush arbitrarily purge 10's of thousands of black voters from the voting rolls, and direct state police to set up road blocks in Lee and Duval Counties to harass and intimidate black voters and purposely direct …
Posted to Keep the Voting Rights Act Alive
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Mayor Daley's corruption was a personal choice. His political affiliation didn't make him a crook any more that being a crook prompted him to be a Democrat. Democrats have nothing on Republicans when it comes to the depth and breadth of their respective corruptions. Bottom line - If Ralph Nader really wanted to be President, he would have run as a Democrat. His platform is virtually identical the the Democratic platform.
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NaderRaider, You would vote for John McCain after he confessed that he places his loyalty to his political party above his loyalty to his country? John McCain lost all credibility when he backed Bush following Bush's despicable and disgraceful smear campaign against him in 2000, declaming his loyalty to his party. This, after Karl Rove ran a campaign in the 2000 S. Carolina primaries, accusing McCain of cowardice in combat and as a prisoner of war, and trying to enflame the bigoted passions of the S. Carolina electorate with push polls asking if the voter was aware that McCain fathered an …
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Tim, I have to voice my disagreemnt. Ralph Nader is one of the greatest, smartest and most honorable and most humble Americans who ever lived. That's what he has to do with Mayor Daley. He has done more for the little guy (in his case consumers), and more to fight corporate corruption than any American who ever lived. (That's what he has to do with Mayor Daley). Ralph Nader invented consumer advocacy. I wholeheartedly agree with virtually every stance he's taken as, I believe, do most Americans if they are being honest with themselves. Why someone as smart as Nader has …
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NaderRaider, And like a typical conservative, you like to use false premises - your characterization of "Dems." Unlike republicans, NR, Dems don't really give a damn about being Dems, they care about their liberty and public policy that places the interests of public health safety and welfare above the interest of corporate profits. And, as a practical matter, Democrats understand that splitting the liberal movement into factions plays right into the fascist republican's hands. The practical reality is that the Democratic party is the only entity with the resources to compete with the conservative fascists for votes. Without the Democratic party, …
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Tim, I'm flattered that you think that whether I would support JJJr. is pertinent. I don't know enough about his priorities to give an answer. Having said that, knowing that he is a son of a liberal, I would vote for him if the other choice was a republican. As for Mr. Daley, I don't know why anyone would thing that he would be different than his Daddy. (Hmmm, seems I've said that before).
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Being very much in favor of enforceable fair labor standards and wages, I am deeply concerned about the globalized labor pool and the resulting fall of the value and respect for labor in America. I don't see how American workers can compete in the manufacturing labor market on the basis of cost. At best, American workers can compete at the level of quality and efficiency. Having worked in more than one union shop, I know that that will require a drastic change in union shop culture - with few exceptions, being only as productive as needed to keep your job under …
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Cabdriver, I don't foresee a fair labor solution to globalization in my lifetime. However, I expect that, eventually, organized labor will catch up to globalized entreprenurism.
Posted to New Fair Trade Model Needed
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Linette, There's something missing in that quote. A leap of logic perhaps. It just doesn't add up for me.
Posted to New Fair Trade Model Needed
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The Federal Labor Relations Act is all that unions have to enforce their right to exist really. It's up to the courts to force business to bargain in good faith. The courts have consistently failed in this duty since . . . to my recollection, since Ronald the Raygun started appointing federal judges to the bench in the 80's.
Posted to Labor Split a Mixed Bag
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Jan Schakowsky: ". . . Democrats in Congress, while still not earning high ratings, are ahead of the Republicans by the largest margin in recent times. And I haven’t heard anyone raving about what a genius Karl Rove is lately. The turf is favorable, but we’ve been there before—in 2000 and 2004. What should progressives do as we approach the 2006 elections to capitalize on Americans’ sense of unease and discontent? . . ." Jan, the reason the majority of Americans agree with liberal policies, and still the GOP gained in 2000 and 2004 is because private corporations like Diebold, who …
Posted to Democratic Dos and Donts
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The term "progressive" has been adopted by liberals who have given up on and abandoned the label "liberal" because it has been so demonized in the public mind by the Machiavellian conservatives. Having read this thread, I conclude that johnnyincentx is just a conservative troll whose purpose is to now demonize the word progressive.
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pgobrien, That's exactly what I said in the opening post. Jan Schakowsky didn't respond to that assertion which is not a surprise. What can she say? The privatization of the vote was the last nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned. Unless we can have confidence in the truth of the vote count, all the talk about Democrat do's and don'ts is just mental masterbation. Further, the struggle to take back democracy from the crook, Diebold, will be a long tough fight. It's not going to happen by 2008. It has to be a multi-pronged approach, not the least …
Posted to Democratic Dos and Donts
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THE LINE that democrats (read liberals, which don't include the likes of Joe Lieberman), is that, democrats must place the interests of public health, safety and welfare ABOVE the interest of corporate profit. THAT is all the distinction they need, and all the distinction there is.
Posted to The Case for a Democratic Marker
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Today, 75% of the federal prison population, and 35% of state prison populations are there for the crimes of drug possession and/or sales. THAT is a national disgrace.
Posted to So Very Sorry
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Richard2 said: "Another example: Bush won only about one in 11 black votes in 2000 and “improved” to one in 10 in 2004." How do you know, with private corporations, like Diebold, that openly support Bush and the GOP, taking and counting the votes - helping Bush and the GOP to cheat. I'll go on record and say that I have grave doubt that GWB has ever won an election.
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NaderRader, I love Ralph Nader. He gave a lecture at my school. I think he is one of the smartest persons, and greatest liberals, in America. I think he would make a great President, at least in terms of public health, safety and welfare - THE core liberal values. But, the reality is that unless he runs as a Democrat, or unless the Democratic party falls apart, he has no chance to be elected. And I won't waste my vote on a candidate that has no chance.
Posted to So Very Sorry
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Bud, The irony for me is that it really isn't conservative industrialists who employ violence and intimidation, it's poor schlubs doing it to other poor schlubs. I will never understand that mentality. Even more ironic is that a significant minority of union members vote for conservatives.
Posted to Power to the Pictures
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Ummm, I'm sorry that you find my comments about the war in Iraq being unintended irony and hyperbole. However, when I said the Iraqi war is a fraud, and that it's sole purpose is the personal enrichment of G.W. Bush, his family and friends, I wasn't being flippant. That's exactly what I meant, and IMHO, there is more than enough circumstantial evidence to forecloes my case, inter alia: 1. Numerous "former" Bush cabinet members and WH staffers have stated that Bush had been planning the war since before the election in 2000; 2. It is now established, beyond any reasonable doubt, …
Posted to A Different Duty
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PS: I forgot to state that the arrogant Demeanor of George and Jeb Bush, when addressing the public, is so utterly disgusting as to defy description. I can only say that, anyone who can watch them make public comments and not see the "I can't believe what a bunch of suckers you are, and how easy it is to take kickbacks in exchange for political favors, and be loved, adored and applauded for it," grins on their faces, is either brainwashed or just stupid.
Posted to A Different Duty
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Seamus, I'm glad to see a permanent name and password logon feature has been instituted. Hopefully, the forum troll, Michael Hardesty, will be easier to identify and ignore in the future. As for why he has so much time, I will just speculate that, if Tom Delay can pay goons to go to Florida to masquerade as recount protesters during the Presidential vote recount in 2000, some GOP crook can pay trolls like Michael Hardesty to clog up liberal message boards. I wouldn't be surprised if the crook was a Texan. Or maybe it's Richard Mellon Scaife. In other words, this …
Posted to The Immoral Majority
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Having now read the article, I will repeat one of my several "core value" axioms: "Conservatism - the culture of lies." - Lefty '05
Posted to The Immoral Majority
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Airborn LT sounds like a conservative corporate troll. His role is to convince us that government, and all that it does and stands for, is bad. Naturally, in Airborn LT's ideal world, that leaves giant corporte whores in control of everything. How convenient. Sorry Airhead, I prefer the elected government to be in control, not General "Whorehous" Electric.
Posted to The Immoral Majority
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Natalie is a practitioner of the conservative art of pulling facts out of . . . . That, or she just parrots what is spoon fed to her by the corporate media, you know, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Thavage [he said, tongue in cheek].
Posted to Downing Street: A Dead-End In American Media
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Natalie, If anyone has been outed for being unable to support her facts, it's you. You cannot, and have not, support any of the facts you rely on with authoritative sources. To me, your "facts" are clearly false propaganda to anyone who gains information outside of the main stream corporate media whores you so jealously rely on. You are either a conservative troll, or a brainwashed automaton. How does that grab you? Furthermore, it's hilarious the way conservatives are so ready to eat their own, like Joe Wilson, republican. I guess he's not conservative enough - read: willing to be a …
Posted to Downing Street: A Dead-End In American Media
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Natalie, If the MSM is so liberal, where are all the 24/7 CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC, reports about the greatest breach of public trust in U.S. history - Iraqgate, the war that has no other purpose than the personal enrichment of the Bush family and their friends. Why did it take over a month, from the time ITT and other true liberal media reported objective evidence of fruad - the Downing Street Memos, before a single MSM reported on it? Why have they stopped discussing it? Yet, when Clinton lied about getting a blow job, the story received 24/7 …
Posted to Downing Street: A Dead-End In American Media
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Natalie, I have said, several times, that a conservative cannot make an argument without the aid of a false premise. Let's count the false premises in your last post, express and implied, shall we: 1. "supposed outing" 2. "supposed covert agent" 3. "a party that has been hardly a supporter of the CIA in general" 4. "largely responsible for the systematic de-valuing of human intelligence over the last several decades" 5. "The CIA has suddenly gone in the mind of the left from being the evil force behind the empowerment of Saddam, the Contras and Satan himself" 6. "in circumstances of …
Posted to Downing Street: A Dead-End In American Media
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Liberal, Point of clarification. Please distinquish yourself (and other liberals) from Bush and his ilk. "We" don't support Saudi Arabia, the Bush family does. We didn't make an enemy of Osama Bin Laden, the Bush family did. And although you didn't say so, it was implied that you meant "we" invaded, occupied and tortured. We didn't, Bush did. My point is that liberals have this habit of taking the blame for the crimes of conservatives. Why? Why when some fascist dictator commits an international crime, liberals say "we" did it. We didn't do it. "They" did it. I think it's an …
Posted to Downing Street: A Dead-End In American Media
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Natalie, I thought I had posted a response but apparently it didn't post. The substance of my posts are apparent to any honest, thoughtful reader. As for the axioms about conservatives that I occasionally repeat on this forum, you'll admit, if you are honest, that they are MY axioms. The false premises that you parrot are quite familiar. They are the same talking points spoon fed to you by the conservative noise machine that has been clogging conservative brains with effluent for the past 25 years.
Posted to Downing Street: A Dead-End In American Media
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Yet more false premises from the pen of the conservative Natalie. When I quote someone else, I give them credit, like Elbert Hubbard. How else would a ditto head like you know who wrote what I quoted. You on the other hand sound like the conservative talking points automaton that you are. As for the notions I put forth about conservatives, you are living proof that they are true. Natalie, you are a pathological liar. (Seems I've observed that about you before). You simply cannot help yourself. Every post you have written has been a pack of false premises and lies. …
Posted to Downing Street: A Dead-End In American Media
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Liberal, Please don't say that "the U.S." has never met a fascist it didn't like. Bush and his CIA have never met a fascist they didn't like. The sooner Bush is dead, the sooner the CIA will serve the interests of U.S. citizens instead of the interests of Bush and his corporate whores.
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