Matilda- You said: "Rather than discourage nuclear proliferation George W. Bush and his cohorts have indirectly encouraged it. Everyone in the world (except for conservatives in America) knew that Sadam did not in any way pose an actual nuclear threat. To everyone else in the world it looked as if Iraq was invaded precisely because it did NOT have nuclear weapons." I am not certain how closely you followed the goings on prior to the invasion of Iraq, but here are a few examples of the "Bush Cohorts" who were convinced that Iraq had come close to aquiring nukes: Bill Clinton, …
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Volvillian-- I understand your angst, but you said: "If we were serious about eliminating terror, then by default we’d have to be serious about justice and ethics and humanity" and "Thanks to the clowns that mask their agendas with anemic platitudes and empty talk of freedom, democracy and liberty." Now, if you would be so kind as to provide a definition of those terms that everyone in the entire world could agree upon, I think you might be on to something. Until then, those words are defined by everyone differently. What is justice to a Jihadist bomber? Going to Hell? Gettin' …
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Scorp-- Have you wondered where the Left and the press would be on this Iraqi war thing if Clinton did the invading instead of Bush? Not a word was spoken when Bubba went into Bosnia...WITHOUT a vote from Congress or permission from the UN. But Viola! He was a "GREAT president", and Bush is likened to Hitler and the very terrorists he fights. Both World Wars One, & Two and Vietnam were all started by Democratic presidents. A Democrat president dropped not one but two atomic bombs on the Japanese. Maybe we should just let the Dems start all the wars, …
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Susie Q-- What exactly are you refering to when you say you see people like "ISThisThingOn? who "still blindly bow to the altar of the anti-Christ Bush". I believe that we need to be vigilant about terrorists and the Left and others who want to destroy America. That is a thought of mine long before Bush was elected. Bush is no conservative as far as I am concerned. And he certainly is not Christ like. His only claim to my vote is that he is not an America-hater like the Democrats. Now Pat Buchanan! THERE is a real American. Ain't bowing …
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Matilda-- Here is why I believe the Dems hate America. I will quote YOU: 1) "America is a beautiful place, but at the end of the day is just a piece of land." 2) "you think Liberals hate America, we just don’t consider innocent American lives to be any more important than innocent Iraqi lives" 3) Conservativism is a hateful little philosophy 4) (talking about conservatives): "Gee it must be great to have no conscience, to be totally unclouded by right and wrong, and for the murder of tens of thousands of people to be okay as long as it makes …
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Matilda- Your straw man choice between "Crying Boy Scouts" and "10,000 dead Iraqis" is a feint or "head fake" that is taught in most basic debate classes. Neither of the two are related, but you stretch a point to try to make them related in order to show the foolishness of the opponent that you are debating. The problem is, it must be done in such a way that is not so transparently nonesense in order to work. You didn't even try to make a case. I illustrated my loathing for the Left with a trivial story. It was a watershed …
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Holy Smoke! Did I make a direct hit or what? My "evil" soul is so happy I made you spit blood. Lost your composure dear. When you want to play with the big boys, lemme know. Otherwise, practice your invectives on a doll or something you have laying around your bedroom that doesn't fight back. You could probably out debate that. ...or maybe not.
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Scorp- You hit several nails right on the head. The whole essence of the Left winger "thought" process, is that if we were just to hold hands and sing something written by Sting, all the bad guys would put down their world domination plans and come over to our side. What Matilda and other lefties don't seem to realize, to make this point more focused, is that the radical Muslims who are in the process of bombing the crap out of anyone that disagrees with their wierd version of praising God, that they have a plan of world domination by their …
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Lefty-- "An arguement that is filled with name calling above, belies a weak arguement underneath" -August Winslow
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Lefty, You need to get some new material. You are using the same insults over and over again. Boy does THAT get boring. I am wondering if there is a chat site where they let the thinkers and discussers in (being in agreement is NOT a requirment to claim either of those two adjectives) and keep out the small minded who insist that their position on things is the only right one to have and that everyone else by default becomes: a) "a crook or idiot" (lefty) b) "conscienceless murderer (Matilda) or c) you are missing some of your DNA (SuzieQ) …
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Volvillian-- No, I understand that you have your ideology in the same camp as lefty and Suzie Q. You are a Democrat. Thats what you do. I am a Conservative (but strangly, I don't call myself a Republican) so is Scorp and chopper. Thats what WE do. Thats fine. God Bless America. But its the flaming that tires the bejeezuz out of me. It its so predictable, it actually becomes a bore. "Hey! I can insult you better than you can insult me! HA! Gotcha!" (yawn) Now, what is it that you have to say to me that is of substance? …
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See? I think I spotted one.
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Vol- Good thoughts. OK, your first point: --I personally am against our involvement in Iraq. That is a new position for me in the recent weeks, as I can see more and more clearly, that the fact that there are 3 different religious factions living there, who have been killing each other for the last 3,000 years over who loves their God the most, and will not now or EVER allow a democracy into their lives, as their religions (all of them)...will not tolerate such an institution within there midsts. They are still Muslims. First and foremost. A democracy is anathema …
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Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test. The events are actual events from history. They actually happened!!! Do you remember? 1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by: a. Superman b. Jay Leno c. Harry Potter d. a Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40 2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by: a. Olga Corbett b. Sitting Bull c. Arnold Schwarzenegger d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by: …
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Yeah? so? You think that I was trying to claim that this was MY own production? I had it e-mailed to me, without attribution by the way. I did NOT assume that the sender of the e-mail was trying to lift someone elses intellectual property or try to make it seem it was his original work. It was just a friggin e-mail that I thought might generate conversation. I didn't think my stearn headmaster from college was chatting with me. Do you think I should tell you who I get my e-mails from? Who cares? There is a lot of stuff …
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Vol- You might have more information than I on that poor guys' plight. If there was police incompetence involved, I can't say I am surprised. If there is more to it than that, such as a conspiracy to kill him or out and out malice towards an innocent person, I say that is just as wrong as what we are fighting against. I will follow your link. However, the BBC is NOT to be taken at face value. Truth IS vital to the welfare of a Democracy...agreed. The BBC is not known for its unbiased coverage.
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I notice that your "poll" doesn't list some obvious alternative questions...such as: d) Does this mean that Union influence is on the wane in this country? e) Will this significantly affect the Democratic Party money making machine in stopping the flow of Union dues going to party affiliations that many members don't want to fund? f) Does this mean American business can get on with the competing with every other country in the new global market, without having to answer to unions that eventually drives businesses to India? Those are the questions you ought to be asking your readers. Polls don't …
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