There is a word for people who post to tell other people to get a life. Frankly you are of no consequence due to the total lack of accuracy of anything you just wrote. Rabbit, runs his own little factory producing Polyethylene Kayaks. It is high summer here by the way, and this means I am working about twelve hours a day, but since I am quite good at this thing, I used to build such machinery and the moulds and trained others on production lines, so for each process of about two hours, I need actually to work fitting up …
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Rabbit would furthermore be impressed if you could back up the possibly slanderous claim that ITT supports Iran getting Nuclear weapons. As for Rabbit, he does indeed support the Iranians getting Nukes. How else are they going to protect their nice shiny new, EUROS ONLY Oil Bourse? Obviously the fact that it is opening in March has nothing to do with the media hype and drum beating about Iran, and the soon to be launched attack. As long as nations who refuse to recognise international laws, including Nuclear Laws, and who have not only made numerous threats to use Nuclear weapons, …
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One more thing, as if you could even have managed such a small detail at least, where does ITT refer to Iran as being Arab? Obviously not this article, so what is your problem you sad little person?
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Back again, Rabbit finished one boat, started a new one, spoke to the neighbor for a minute, and went to the cafe at the end of the street to get some lunch. Rabbit talked with the Korean owners of the cafe for a while, and now he is having his lunch whilst posting this to taunt, the goose InThoseTimes. What was your life like in the last half hour dude?
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When one has nothing to say at all, just don't bother, how about you give it a try, WTH? Rabbit has as you can see, something to say, and it was in reply to the ridiculous little blurted twaddl;e posted by In HI sMInd, which has somehow gotten you all excited. Anyway WTH why do you bother? You seldom read what Rabbit writes, and your reaction to InHisMind's ad hominem and utterly pointless attack on Rabbit. Was that brief, WTH?
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InHisMind Why do you persist in acting the goat to try and bother the rabbit? Rabbit is indeed a grown man, and a fairly serious one too. If you think it is childish that Rabbit prefers his chosen method of communication, then perhaps you should be able come up with something more mature than criticism of form and imagined faults. InHisMind has said nothing, except how much the rabbit obviously disturbs him. I have already pointyed out, that the very presentation of Rabbit is intended to annoy Morons, and Dickheads. Rabbit's friends can confirm for him that it is quite effetcive. …
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WTH. You are as always spouting double strandards. How about a UN oversight agency on treatment of Iranian gays? Now WTH does that seem right to you does it? Well don't you think you as an American are disqualified from demanding UN or any international oversight of human rights? After all the USA has either refused to join most human rights treaties, it has withdrawn from most international trreaties and broken the rest. The USA is a nation which uses banned weapons of war, who attacks civilians with Weapons of Mass Destruction and who refuses to join the entire remainder …
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The USA practices Torture on a large scale and clearly does so indiscriminately. The USA arrests and locks up its own citizens withouit charge and it certainly indulges in kidnap and inmcarceration beyond the rule of law or morals. Thje USA executes and imprisons the greatest number of its own people of any developed nation and the court sytem is obviously quite corrupt. With money you walk, without it you're forked. So dear little WTH don't be acting like a hypocrite now will you. You worry about human rights in your own sinking ship, and leave others to solve theior own …
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Well I don't think it matters what you all think, if the Junta says voting machines are in, then they are in. If the government says no paper trail is necessary then none is necessary. even if there is no fraud ha ha All indications are of fraud, so let go of the bland assumption....please. Happy New Year to all,......... except the wretched right, hope their year is trash.
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Well what have we here? A damned nasty little hit piece. An ignorant Adhominem attack on two eminent and wise, and brave scholars. Despite an obvious longing to throw dirt, the mean spirited author Muwakkil cannot find anything to denigrate about either Jones or Griffin and so resorts to casting aspersions on their characters on the basis of their support of alternative theories, which have the advantage of not having been disproven and which DO actually agree with witness evidence and science. Unlike one long since discredited and fast fading Official Theory I can think of. Since your obvious intention is …
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Andi You didn't read Rabbit's words to you about TINYURLs did you? You chose instead to assume, falsely I might add that the rabbit was attacking you. It is true Rabbit has a rather blunt approach, he tries to wrap his words in soft velvet to take some of the edge off his otherwise VERY Aries tone. The Forum does muck around with anything which touches the edge of the box. You need to pick up a few clues which we have garnered and pass along to all who will be readable. You have so far been wrapped up in a …
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By the way Katiez, your words describing exactly how and why this is a crappy piece of writing, and observations about the methods used, are EXACTLY how the rabbit would like to have said it, but you did it best.
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Andi Go here if you want to see just how much Rabbit has been into the 911 stuff recently, it may have attracted something here. The shill Natalie took it to another thread and was finally abandoned there, Maybe this piece is some sort of "reaction", . You might want to stick around if you enjoy fireworks. Something tells the rabbit we could be in for a show. Gather round friends, I think this is a call to battle. It is a good collection of references to good information, and the official shill's best answers to all of it. …
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Too much light for the Vampire, too many people, she hates crowds you know Dave. Rabbit also dropped by Democrats to give the Vamp a paddling, and send her over here. Who knows maybe this thread is a set-up, and Natty is about to lead a "Charge of the Shills" Charge of the Dark Brigade?
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The Strange Case Of The 911 Cell Phone Calls September 2004 Last month, Qualcomm Corporation issued a press release stating that they had developed a new technology that would finally make it possible to make cellular phone calls from commercial airliners. Using a technology called "Pico Cells", the system will work as a link between the airliner and ground towers. According to the press release, it is currently impossible to connect by cell phone in a plane that is above 4,000 feet. During the Republican National Convention in New York City last month, Deena Burnett, widow of Flight 93 victim Tom …
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There is much more wrong with the stories of the phone calls, but this is certainly more grill for the mist. Rabbit has read speculation about how the cell phones worked at the altitudes before, and there are a seriees of descrepancies with the information given on these calls.
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Rabbit proudly introduces, our in-house spokesperson for the criminal Junta. Natalie, the sublime. Come on Natty, tell them how Griffin is an LSD freak. Tell them how Prof Astenah cannot be trusted because he's from Berkely. Oh but of course when you realised Astenah said something you thought you could use, he was reliable again, the rabbit forgot.
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Now folks, Rabbit knows Nat the Bat. She has a couple of rules which you should be aware of. These rules form a sort of handicap, and as you get to know Natty you will understand why she needs a handicap start. First if Natty can find anything, an anonymous report or a government report or something even less credible, it is to be counted as a complete refutation of anything which was said before that. Henceforth anything you wrote previous to that point vanishes forever. Secondly, any source you use, which is anti the US admin, or anti-Bush, is null …
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That 911 myths page Nattyy posted is garbage. The issue of the planes' altitudes is not in doubt Natty. The official reports said very clearly that the flight 93 Never went below 29,000 feet, until it came down. Now Natty you can either accept the FAA report or not. But if you are going to selectively believe the report, then are we not also entitled to doubt the report as we see fit? Actually Natty, there can be no doubt about the altitudes, there are a number of reasons, not least of which is ground radar and it is recorded, and …
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Natty ofetn says ironic things like she knew nothing about 911 until she found out that Rokke apparently supported the missile hit pentagon theory. From that point on she has been a completely committed Shill for the official lie, ad never varied from the script once. She has referred to every one of the (admittedly few) official propaganda sites and she has performed familiar mental contortions to try and make it all hang together. Fascinating how she goes from a casual contact with a subject for the first time to a complete hell for leather shilling on behalf of the offical …
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Natty I’m disappointed, however, that their article was somewhat short on specifics Natty, the rabbit is surprised at you, this article is as specific and well researched as anything you've ever presented. It's quite typical of the official response as evidenced by your usual postings. In fact your own posting above is remarkably similar in style and argument as Muwwakkil. You are being ironic aren't you? You think it's a great piece of work and you've already added it to your favorites. You'll be quoting it on some other site, as Proof that Griffin and Jones are crazy. Natty Unfortunately, there’s …
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Hi Andi, Rabbit never doubted your ability, that was obvious, and it was equally apparent that it was the site's posibilities you were still finding out about. He was being facetious when he said "You're not very good at it are you?" Rabbit hasn't found any more than the four main ones., i, b, a and blockquote. I think I got lists and Bullets to work once. Other than that, Rabbit was only pointing out that the comment boxes mangle the urls at line's end. Dave is right though it doesn't if it's inside the code.
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Andi The 50,000,000 may be a sly way of discrediting the truth movement? Since they have no other sort of case, they need imaginative ideas like this to give some sort of impression that the Lie is the only truth. Just an idea, Rabbit is suspicious. It may follow on from that Millionaire dude who was offering a Million dollars to anyone who could prove the buildings collapsed as claimed by the Junta. This certainly had the effect of discrediting the official lie, and rightly so. This 50 million won't be claimed and by standing thus it gives an impression that …
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Hi Lume, Natty doesn't understand Newton's Laws, she isn't a lawyer either! hee hee.
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Rabbit is offering $1, 000,000,000 for any one who can prove that George W Bush lied about anything and who is a three legged Eskimo Dwarf, with a Law degree and a park named after him.
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Applications close at 3:00pm, today.
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Time is up. Nobody claimed One Billion dollars, for proof that Dubya lies. This seems to show there is no proof that GWB lies, so let us hear no more talk of it.
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Rabbit is off to the beach for a week. Happy and safe Christmas to all. Hope everyone gets what they want for Christmas. Especially Natalie. Rabbit hopes Natty gets some DU from Santa
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Oh Wiley........ that Marvin Bush was going to be Rabbit's next one......not fair, now the rabbit will have to think of another. Natty is good isn't she guys? Hi Lume. Happy New Year.
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Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) ............. “the policy of the United States not to enter into any base agreements with the government of Iraq that would lead to a permanent United States military presence in Iraq.” That does not sound like anybig deal. So they won't ask the Iraqis..................... we already knew that much. Anyway its all smoke and mirrors. They have no intention of leaving. The bases are built, they are being fortified and extended, they are clearly permanent bases, so who the hell is going to believe they have a plan of pulling out. If that was on the …
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I mean, what the hell. wew know why they attacked and occupied, fuck all the bullshit excuses before and since. We knew some of it in 2003 and now we know the rest. Need a new big Middle East Base, Saudi's use by date is nearing end. Need to secure the oil for USA. We know about the OIL for Euros, which Saddam started and which is spreading to Iran and Venezuala, and the Iranian Oil Bourse due to open in 2006 trading in Euros.. Now know the whole story on that front. Well maybe we never know the whole story, …
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Oops hit the submit button by accident too quick. Also Rabbit leaves his battered spelling and syntax as always. If it is good enough for a POTUS, it is good enough for a rabbit. Of course Israel has a great deal to say about US foreign policy, you are their attack dogs after all, and getting shot of Saddam and Iraq, as an entity was always high on their agenda. Lastly, but the thing which will probably come to oust all the other reasons when the history books are written, the real target is Iran. This is all just the ground …
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Guesser? Rabbit see's no need to change the current label, Morons. Morons, Guessers whatever you call them they don't seem to be outnumbering us by 10 to 1, but maybe Rabbit is lucky, meeting about 50% Informed or at least open minded people in his daily travels, on the web and during his working week. Of course informed guessing is sometimes necessary, but these guys in Washington are indeed Snake Oil salesmen.
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Can't figure out if Mr Vonnegut is secular or not? Does it matter. The secular soul can as easily identify and refer to god. the difeernece is invariably only in the definition of that God. Since all "guesses" about how or what God is, are probably equally many light years distant from the real deal, Rabbit doesn't think that this then is enough to separate anyone. There are a number of very reasoned and interesting comments here and rabbit will get back to a few things, but he sees that his favorite Warrior Witch has crossed swords with this Marge, who …
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Oh and by the way. Rabbit has a few favorite minds, and GBS sure is high up that list. George Bernard Shaw. Oscar Wilde. Richard Bach. Education does not happen in the presence of teachers all the time, in fact the best for Rabbit has come from open minded curiosity applied to life. As such, Rabbit does not feel undereducated, on the contrary he is typically over par and has a fairly lonely existence regarding mental stimulation. This isn't to say there are not times, often in fact, when Rabbit's own limitations become apparent to him, there are so many clever …
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By the way. HI there Kaw Valley Kid. Always great to see you in town. ...............................^^......................................
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"Education is an admirable thing. But it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught" "Public opinion exists only where there are no ideas" ------Oscar Wilde
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Crikey............. Lots of Shiny people who all admire Mr Vonnegut. Rabbit looking up.......................hmmm. It's all good then. Wiley is right of course. Religion did not bring about love, humanity, tolerance, self sacrifice or peace. People have the potential to be much more than they have become. religion has acted more as a foil to seeing the Truth about life. Making up fairytales to replace ignorance. Never will religions admit the most basic thing that they don't know, and yet as science and technology have progressed (Or as we have prgressed with understanding of the universe), Religion has failed more and more …
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Rabbit sometimes has this thought. The "Matrix" movies, at least the theme, may be a more realistic and useful myth than the God ones we have all more or less grown up with. We need to focus more upon our inner God, and our interconnectedness. Less upon outer Gods, who have never even been photgraphed. There are hundreds of pictures of UFOs and yet many people are sceptical of their existence. Well why are those monkeys still believing in a God who nobody has ever photographed, even once?
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What a fascinating catch has been drawn into the net of this article. The worthless rabbit, in his ignorance has not been much familiar with Kurt Vonnegut before, but is getting the picture that he is much admired by people a rabbit could not only empathise with but admire. AND not a troll in sight. But we can't have everything.
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How much of this is due to illegal immigrants? Srill it is pretty crook. Are you sure you guys are a developed country? Illiteracy On The Increase In The US About 30 million US citizens are below the basic level of education, among them, 11 million who do not know how to read and write properly in English, institutional sources reported Friday. Seven million individuals -3.1 percent of the population- is at the lowest educational category because they are completely illiterate. Thirteen percent of US people have barely enough literacy to sign a document, according to government research testing elementary …
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Never before in the history of ITT has a rabbit read so much without saying anything. The Rabbit is Flabbergasted. This thread has attracted a literal menagerie of strange and beautiful creatures. Some fine and shiny minds among them and darned if the rabbit didn't see a new kind of troll flit past.. Margey Rabbit thinks you should stop picking on Wiley, she is coherant, thoughtful and sensible as well as fun. Marge, despite an earlier little tug on the hem from Rabbit, to point out the goose like antics, has continued to be trollish towards the Witch. Sweety we do …
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Hooray for Seamus.........The hand of Web God....Did you see it everybody, Seamus has spoken and he is the boss. .....................................................^^............................................... Rabbit bows humbly to Seamus and asks publically, in case Seamus is still noticing us, why does the Rabbit be banned? He would rather be a Rabbit than a GhostRabbit any day? But suddenly Rabbit cannot be Rabbit anymore. Back to being a poor old dead rabbit, ghost.
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Admarshall, nobody minds the HTML, if only you could learn how to do it. For an IT specialist you are pretty crummy at this stuff, and it is largely this wacky format you leave behind which is freaking out the mini multitude. Seriously, get your act together and post links like a nice fellow, and if you need a wee hand just ask, Rabbit will explain in a few sentences, he learned HTML in a bout ten minutes one day to stop a Troll named Jay from posing anymore at one point when he thought he was hot shit because he …
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Admarshall You seem like a very complex fellow. Almost like a multiple personailty, one of them being some sort of robot. No offence, but these weird things are going on in your posts, which are the only reason some have reacted a bit ad-hominably towards you , I think. This does not include the rabbit, it is to be hoped you have noticed. Rabbit has not indulged in any Adding or Homineming towards Admarshall, indeed the rabbit has engaged him directly, simply and with the purest intent. Seeking only understanding and harmony among the liberal brethren, and sisterens on this strange …
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Admarshall and KV-R are the same person, this much is obvious, but what was this person? Ideas anyone?
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A psychotic thinks that two and two are five. A neurotic knows two and two are four -- but he hates it.
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So did you find the Sherrif's badge did you Rocco? This thread is like a bowl of fruitloops, it is true, but some of us are just visiting for fun, while some are here for breakfast.
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You my dear Rocco are the king fruoitloop. rabbit will refer to himself in the third person if it amuses him, and it does. Furthermore Rabbit has done so for quite a few years, and is not likely to alter such habits because some self loving, presumptive ass with a smidgin of personality disorder and a minor Messiah complex, has requested it. Better men than you have tried Gunga Din, but Rabbit stands firm in his mannerisms and way. It is him. To presume egotism as a Rabbit flaw from such a few very few posts and flippant ones at that, …
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Actually, the truth must be obvious, and no offence to Kurt. It is necessary to labour things a bit, to bring any context into the subject of Guessers. The idea was OK but not really adequate to replace a more direct interpretation of the cause of the Economic, Homeland and Foreign disasters. These are more accurately caused by a Criminal Junta, a gang of Ultra Gangsters who have been allowed to hijack the US democracy. The disasters appear more often than not to be orchestrated and thus to suggest that mere guessing games is to blame is to be a bit …
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Goodwin, you don't suck for writing that. Rabbit is quite ambivelant about what either you or Rocco thinks. You seem quite enamoured of your own opinion and are no more justified in your pompousness than a number of other twits we know. Until Rabbit sees anything from you which would indicate you are anything but a moron, and a tap dancer he is unlikely to take your criticism as anything more than an endorsement. Don't worry about my chosen method of communicationm sunshine, Rabbit will speak in whatever way he sees fit. In fact he deliberately throws in a few I's …
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AD Marshall There is so much more which requires reading of yours, but please note the inconsistency of saying it should be brought back on thread and then promptly starting up the 911 debate. That has been raging for seven or eight hundred posts on another thread which was hijacked by Rabbit as it was going to waste, and a Government shill moved it ointo another trhead for another few hundred posts. Rabbit's only point is that you just wnet off topic in your next posts. Pot meets Kettle?
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One thing about 911 which seems to be misunderstood. The Junta have not really covered up the truth about 911. In fact it was a pretty sloppy job and the holes are easy to find. Don't we get the picture yet? they are doing it for our benefit and you can't see the fact that the coverups, the lies are never so profound that they are not fairly easily unravelled. there are furthermore people in the military and other government people who have come forward. What world are some of you living in? The very act of witholding so much evidence …
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Or don't ...........this thread is the stupidest and suckiest ever seen at ITT by I.
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Wolf, once in a while Rabbit finds your posts to be astoundingly ....poignant. Mostly you are a drongo,...... but there are times when the rabbit has to admire the man beneath the mask. You and he could have enjoyed a good night out on the town at some stage of our respective lives thinks the Rabbit. They would have been telling the story for years afterwards. When Wolf and Rabbit came to town. Lock up your daughters and your best stash, find your best whisky and get ready for a great bash. .... hee hee.... Yes, it seems unlikely any race …
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Wolf just because you are a physicist, that equals one American, out of 160 million. That doesn't actually register much, although I think you meant that the generalisation does not therefore apply to you? If so it doesn't change the generalisation. Rabbit is actually interested to know if you dispute the contention, because it is a new one on me, but I would be inclined to go with it, for a few reasons. Thanks to Johnny, Rabbit does not need to go into the rest of the post, but it is hoped that you would pay close attention to what he …
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It is not the desire of this rabbit to single out Wolf, for any ill treatment, and this is not why Rabbit would raise this. In fact it is for the edification and hopefully enlightenment of Wolf he raises the following. The actual reason that Wolf is objecting to the use of the term Concentration Camps, can be intuited in his other statements. However, if one goes back to the threads about Katrina when it was happening, some considerable insight can be gained into our canine friend's attitudes towards those of a darker hue. It is firmly ensconced in Wolf's mind, …
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That hopefully shows how far Rabbit has come from being born with a heriditary disease, to recognising the disease, to overcoming it. Today Rabbit has put all forms of bigotry behind him with two exceptions. There is no pre-judgement of others as being less for being different. Rabbit meets more alien cultures with genuine excitement and joy in variety, so long as they can feel the same. The two forms of Rabbit Bigotry? Rabbit really hates: ---Bigots. (Stupid wankers) ---Clowns. (Scary, unfunny, C*NTS, with weird noses)
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Rabbit is transplanting his last post to his field for some embellishment relative to another issue, for his friends who are interested.
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Hee hee, Jay is back. Hooray for Lume, your Troll is back. Oh Happy day Lume. Rabbit has been so sad, thinking he maybe had a hand in scaring the fearless, and peerless, Jay Bird away. Wiley............. see Jay, and what a wonderful fellow he is. Has the rabbit not told you of such wonders? Here before your very eyes is the one and only Jay. Returned, from some well earned R & R. Ready to pit his wits against the fools and dunces, the stupid doubters of simple truths, which Jay does defend. Don't even try and get Jay to …
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Hast thou stumbled upon the naughty word filters at last Jay Bird? As it happens the filters are quite selective, They have a penchant for the oddest words. A couple of times Rabbit has had to think long and hard about why a particular word becomes ####. The important words, which are often necessary to discuss the sort of things which you say, like bullshit, arsewipe and piss, are all allowed. As are useful terms like wanker, dickhead and fuck off. Not that Rabbit means for you to Fuck off, Jay bird, rather stay, make yourself comfortable. We have all missed …
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WTH is back too. Oh happy, happy days. Have you two been holidaying together, or is it just that you are both on similar frequencies. Great minds think alike and ....um you know what Rabbit means? Our cup runneth over. Verily our cup runneth over and we are dancing babes we are dancing under the moon, and we are doing it to the tune, of Torture in the USA. Pass the apple pie mom.
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Wiley dear, Jay jay never makes spelling errors.......he was possibly being witty and a bit brave. Not brave enough to call anyones attention to it, but he was feeling good about slipping that little tidbit into the line, he saw the rabbit in the grass, though he said nothing to it. He would like to split a hare, if he would but dare. Else it would be something subconscious, some inner demon whispering between the lines.
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.........................................^^................................................ Oh oh. Now you've done it, Stellar Jay, won't talk to the Witch either. His sensibilities will now be sorely offended, he expects no better from a foul and vicous, loathsome rodent like the mean and nasty Rabbit. Such words as these from the tips of the fingers of a wiley lady, may shock him into ignoring you too. It remains to be seen, but this would be Rabbit's guess. When first the Jay bird and Rabbit met, within about three posts or less Rabbit and he were not friends which led to him calling Rabbit....... Bunny Face, in the …
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Rabbit never heard the Vacuous Rodentia? maybe it was missed among all Jay's other Vacious words.
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Oh Damn. Maybe it was missed among all Jay’s other Vacuous words.
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ljwhit used the A-bomb reference to argue against the morality of American actions in the Middle East after 9/11 and bunny face has argued that America has no legitimate reason for accusing Middle East terrorists for 9/11 or for attacking Iraq. Bunny face has explicitly argued that Middle East hatred legitimatizes the act. Posted by Jay Cline on Sep 29, 2005 at 10:50 PM Then came the following, he must have shocked himself with these harsh words: I apologize for my crude remarks to the Rabbit. But as Bill Moyers has said here, bullies cannot be appeased. they must be …
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Vorpal Bunny too, and this was shortened to VB. This stands for Victoria Bitter, a popular with some, Oz Beer. It is not popular with Rabbit.
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Oh yes Jay everything you do is very good. The standard of your wit has never been in question, we all stand in awe as you know.
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Oh yes David, Rabbit and Jay are bonding like a pair of turtle doves.
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To think they have so much great Ginseng too. Probably the only good thing to come out of the place. Kim and GWB should be good mates, Rabbit thinks they are behind the scenes, they have a lot in common.
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Wolf The drug companies invented nothing! They stole anything that works off native cultures and invariably patented it, or its synthetic copy. They are patenting the very DNA of our makeup and all manner of naturally occurring God Given things. Rabbit has one thing to say about your idea of private ownership such as the Big Drug companies claim with their massive and cavalier approach to patenting and to using their drugs, harmful or not on people, and that is FUCK THEM. By the way Tamiflu is derived naturally from the Asian Star fruit I think. There are other treatments no …
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Rumsfeld's Pandemic Connection Last week, the two companies involved in the production of Tamiflu -- touted as the globe's savior should there be an avian flu pandemic -- negotiated a new financial arrangement. Roche will now pay Gilead 14-22% of Tamiflu revenue, up from last year's 10%. The drug was a "lackluster" seller before pandemic fears, which reached new heights earlier this month when President Bush outlined a $7.1 billion pandemic response plan. American mainstream media continue to ignore the White House …
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TAMIFLU GILEAD CHAIR WAS ... RUMMY Friday, October 21, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com by staff reports NEWS AND ANALYSIS Readers can be helpful, and one just wrote in to inform us of a link that we had never imagined - Donald Rumsfeld, until he resigned and joined the Bush Administration, was the chairman of something called Gilead which just happened to make something called Tamiflu. Now anyone who hasn't been on Mars for the last month or two, knows that there were only two things that were going to stop the human version of bird flu. One was a bird flu …
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So does this help answer the question about who's nest is being feathered? A big old bunch of Buzzards.
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Oops.... Dave........ Rabbit was just catching up to the link you posted and can see he has duplicated your point in this regard, your thoughts about Buzzards was obvious the same as Rabbit's. A Vulture is he. WTF do these C**TS do with all that much money?
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Minerva Rabbit wouldn't mind if they just stopped mucking around with diseases and things, the problem for me is not that they are profiteering off the drugs, as because they are at some level apparently behind the outbreaks too. If only we had to contend with what Nature threw at us, if only. Then life, long or short is largely in our own hands. They are trying to own our bodies in effect. By the way, Rabbit could easily find enough to fill his days were they considerably longer. Some things Rabbit could easily do for a whole lifetime on their …
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Better is if we could shoot them out into space. Rabbit doesn't think the earth really even want's their putrid Carbon, it is no loss to the planet if even the carbon, hydrogen and oxygen and few trace elements which have contributed to their existence were discarded. Better for the overall vibration at least.
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Minerva Exactly. We are no longer prey to many older traditional deiseases, yet we seem to be bombarded every few years now with diseases which have become moneters supposedly overnight. With all due rewspecdt I trhink you may ne a little young or have ashort memory in this regard. To read a lot of modern medical literature you would assume that just twenty years ago we were prone to all sorts of terrible afflictions, but in truth, we had never heard of many very common supposedly serious type diseases then., The evolution of "Species Threatening" diseases since about 1990, has been …
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Get some clues Wolfie, you are always spouting opinions based on platitudes and slogans, you know so little about the actual subject sometimes, it is embarrassing. If you care ask the rabbit and he will direct you to some reading, otherwise, please stop barking, doggy.
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Oh and what is it with this idea that if some good has come of something then this somehow gives license to commit evil simulataneously or at another juncture? So what if while getting super rich the drug companies, took part in curing or controlling "some disease" if at the same time they manipulated a situation to maximum profit at the cost of many lives? So what if while making an inordinate amount of profit of some ideas and some stolen "natural remedies" the same companies are responsible for outbreaks of other more potent forms of disease, intentionally or otherwise. So …
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Minerva this is not an accurate ascessment, even though it is thoughful. A number of herbs and various natural remedies are being controlled by legislation even to the extent of banning the use of traditional remedies due often to the Drug companies taking control of the thing. For example Ginseng is listed on the Swiss Pharmaceuticals listings and this is the forerunner to all other lists. It means that eventually and we are seeing it more and more here, many of our own traditional remdies are being taken from our control, whoever we might be, and sold back to us, often …
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It isn't hard to see the point of the Gold diggers, er miners, er contractors, who are trying to cash in on all that lucra. There have always been opportunists who will go to the frontiers, and Rabbit would be among there number if the frontier was attractive enough and damn the danger. ..........Danger Rabbit...........Danger is his Middle Name.............The Ghost who Hops................ Actually I can get the point about them working over there without supporting the WAR, and like any thing is there is a market................... Maybe it is a good thing that at least some people who are against it …
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The following is an interesting article. rabbit cannot agree with many of the assumptions made by the author, but it is probably the closest thing to middle ground Rabbit will ever accept. The Ancient Greeks believed character is destiny, does this mean George Bush's character is now shaping America's destiny?
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Wrong thread, oops.
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Thanks POL, back on topic, after silly witches and rabbits falling through the ceiling from other threads. 300 CIA Flights landed in Europe The Europeans are going to get noisier and noisier about US torture, wait and see. The real reason for torture and abuse Which we always suspected of these beasts.
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This is interesting, the MSM in USA is ignoring the military reports, the real proof and context when reporting anything about US torture. Counterpunch
Military autopsy reports provide indisputable proof that detainees are being tortured to death while in US military custody. Yet the US corporate media are covering it with the seriousness of a garage sale for the local Baptist Church. A recent American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) posting of one of forty-four US military autopsy reports reads as follows: "Final Autopsy Report: DOD 003164, (Detainee) Died as a result of asphyxia (lack of oxygen to the brain) due …
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Posted by Robert W. Loken Jr. I understand the griping about the humiliating of one’s religion, but torture is a source of interrogation, it has been around as long as time and it is quite effective, the Geneva Convention and the UN need to keep their noses out of certain things and this is one of those issues, remember 9/11… these are our enemies. Do you mind if Rabbit calls you Rockwooky? Robert W. Loken Jr, (What does the W stand for?) is so long and silly. Bobwankalot would be an alternative, but perhaps we can save that for special …
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Yes we do quite long threads round here, we hang about like a bunch of Cockatoos watching the Traffic, and enjoying the sedate pace of life in the cosy little world of ITT. We are all manner of folk and we are all more than we seem. Yet we manage to strike a blow for truth and reason once in a while and best of all we have a good time doing it. We wack Trolls and examine the news together, we manage to stir up enough controversy to see Rabbit regularly banned at least, the Pentagon and it's agents pressuring …
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Murtha may have been speaking directly from the generals. The Revolt Of The Generals
The immense significance of Rep John Murtha's November 17 speech calling for immediate withdrawal from Iraq is that it signals mutiny in the US senior officer corps, seeing the institution they lead as "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth", to use the biting words of their spokesman, John Murtha, as he reiterated on December his denunciation of Bush's destruction of the Army. ........................... So the Four-Star Generals briefed Murtha and gave him the state-of-the-art data which made his speech so deadly, stinging the …
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Rabbit has an oipinion of the US military gleaned from some first hand experience of them, others reports of first hand experience including Vietnam, Gulf and present day vets from Iraq. It must be admitted that efficiency or intelligence had not figured high among the attributes Rabbit might have listed. It is thus intriguing, and a little spooky even when you put it thus Wiley; ANYWAY, those tests given to help place U.S. military recruits into their “M.O.” are amazingly effective. It sometimes amazed me how well suited for the work everyone in each of my squadrons were---even though we were …
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Rabbit knows what you mean, he is as the Witch knows, an ..........Aries Mwa Ha Ha...............................^^................................... ..
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He will tippy toe past peoples feelings for a little bit, while they adjust to the order of the day, but then once that gets boring and disruptive to the order of the day, Rabbit starts wacking. Dave's definiion of an Aries. You are a pioneer type and you think most people are dickheads. You are quick to reprimand, impatient and scornful of advice. You do nothing but piss off everyone you come into contact with. Basically you are a prick. Hee hee................Rabbit is basically a prick.......... Prickity hickity hoppity hickory Rabbits a dancin in stickity hickory Stompin in swamps n …
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Wiley you Nice Rat. A fellow Rodent as well as a Matian to boot. Explains a scintillating unity of certain feelings. That thing about being so diplomatic and circumspect about things which could be dealt a lot more bluntly. It is disgusting watching others degrade themselves, striving for some personal insult to hurt one, reaching far below the belt as Rabbit's Gemini Father, and Taurus Brother would do for example, when the Rabbit in all his fury and explosive fireness, was always pulling his punches, inwardly steering clear of saying certain things which he knows would just be too cruel, …
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That was the url one, stick the Url, in between the quote marks, and the linked text between the ><. The last thing was wrong too, it didn't have the / in the last <>. again . The source page has the secret electron codes. A kind of electron pidgin. Tiny Urls are best used on this site and avoid the url getting broken by the line break at the end of the comment box.
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Jason you must have just arrived from an alternate universe, so listen up for your own good. In this universe, US torture, both in fact and to a more or lesser degree in policy, (Historical first there), is a known and oserved fact. It has been reported, mostly outside the MSM, but with enough of a trickle through such that it is now the fodder of everyday conversation on the street in most countries. Here in Australia and in England too, (your reluctant allies), the Fact of US torture of mostly innocent people, and various other abuses like White Phosphorous and …
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Get ready for the Bat. The Bat known as Nat, is about to join us, hopes, (hops) Rabbit. She is trying to start a private debate in the Dark about Torture. Rabbit has asked her to bring it into the light here, but only time will show if she will. She is a lovely girl who totally abhors torture, she is completeley in agreement with those of us who loathe torturers. Come on Natty, don't be shy.
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Jason , it appears you have only linked to your own ignorant rant about Islam when you must have meant to link to a credible source for your claims, would you be so kind as to try and post a source for your ideas. As for being a "savage enemy driven by a medieval theological supremacist ideology, " Christianity and Judaism, which are at least as old and certainly have a history of blood, violence, wars of supremacy and child sacrifice in the case of Christianity and Judaism, cannot be distinguished by those few epithets you have applied, could you be …
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The fact that we are even having to face the question of whether torture is a consideration of any modern civilized State is mind-blowing in itself. Even the most heinous of bloodthirsty empires throughout history have dismissed the use of and even outlawed torture. According to an AP poll released today, most Americans and a majority of people in Britain, France and South Korea say torturing terrorism suspects is justified at least in rare instances. Almost two-thirds in the United States support such interrogations in the U.S. by their own government. Unbelievable. The attitude of "if it saves lives any …
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The Vampire is reluctant to face the light, so Rabbit posts it's first response to Torture. He leaves her words with others to ponder, perhaps you can draw her out. It will be worth it, Rabbit promises.
This may surprise some of you, seeing as how I am a vampire, a beast and most notably a SHILL, but I abhor torture. Can’t stand it. Give me DU, give me 9/11 LIES by the JUNTA to cover up, but don’t get me started on torture. It just seems wrong to me. I refuse to defend it. Documented human rights violations 1979-2003 Human …
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In 1988, the Hussein regime began a campaign of extermination against the Kurdish people living in Northern and Southern Iraq. This is known as the Anfal campaign. The attacks resulted in the death of at least 50,000 (some reports estimate as many as 100,000 people), many of them women and children. A team of Human Rights Watch investigators determined, after analyzing eighteen tons of captured Iraqi documents, testing soil samples and carrying out interviews with more than 350 witnesses, that the attacks on the Kurdish people were characterized by gross violations of human rights, including mass executions and disappearances of many …
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The News We Kept To Ourselves 04/11/03 EASON JORDAN ATLANTA — Over the last dozen years I made 13 trips to Baghdad to lobby the government to keep CNN’s Baghdad bureau open and to arrange interviews with Iraqi leaders. Each time I visited, I became more distressed by what I saw and heard — awful things that could not be reported because doing so would have jeopardized the lives of Iraqis, particularly those on our Baghdad staff. For example, in the mid-1990’s one of our Iraqi cameramen was abducted. For weeks he was beaten and subjected to electroshock torture in the …
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pg. 2 Then there were the events that were not unreported but that nonetheless still haunt me. A 31-year-old Kuwaiti woman, Asrar Qabandi, was captured by Iraqi secret police occupying her country in 1990 for “crimes,” one of which included speaking with CNN on the phone. They beat her daily for two months, forcing her father to watch. In January 1991, on the eve of the American-led offensive, they smashed her skull and tore her body apart limb by limb. A plastic bag containing her body parts was left on the doorstep of her family’s home. I felt awful having …
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Eason Jordan is chief news executive at CNN Oh well that seals it, no further reference needed. A chief News executive of CNN no less. Almost the pope isn't it? Does Saddam's benchmark mean that anything less is OK then?
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If the US only beat the woman for one month that would of course not be as bad as Saddam. Or if they didn't leave her body parts at the door. What about raping the children in front of the mother like was and maybe still is being done in various prisons in Iraq. Just because all the stories are not mainstream don't think we have not heard a lot more, and they are getting easier to believe all the time. What is so horrific about the photos and videos the slimy penatgon is fighting even a judge to avoid releasing? …
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Rabbit has not caught up yet, but Hooray for Jason. Finally a competant debater, (for a moron). Already Rabbit can see the excellent potential for battles of some consequence. If this guy is a Shill, send more like him, please shillmasters. He has been on the site on and off a long while, perhaps the older folk know him, and he is a wanderinmg Troll, but we makes no judgements. One who can string together a sentence as well as apply logic, and has references for his ideas,......................what more could we ask people? Is he feisty? Does he fight like a …
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By contrast, Jesus, appears to have been a really cool bloke. He was basically the first Flower Child. A laid back, sweet and gentle guy, who also according to credible historical accounts may have enjoyed a romp with at least one lady, Rabbit suspects he was not dissimilar to any healthy, good man in this respect, the idea of a celibate priesthood was not even in discussion at the time. Why the heck would Jesus have been the first celibate Man in the history of Middle Eastern culture? The Bible is historically speaking a largely innacurate copy of most of the …
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Rabbit has just read Jason's Blog,....... oh dear. Well a special Moron, anyway. He said this among other things. Just because you don't love Bush isn't enough to assume you have much in common with anyone around here is Rabbit's latest advice Jason. What we currently lack is a propaganda war – one that properly vilifies the enemy and extols our superiority. Jason seems to think Bush is far too nice, and silly, while the Neo-Vons are not dealing seriously enough with Muslims. They need to be demonised do they? Rabbit already thought they were supposed to be several steps lower …
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Hi Dave and Lume. Dave the gifts are not a bad start. What about a wee wee alarm? Whe little GW needs to pee, he presses a button and Mama Condi can tell him if he can go to the toilet.
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The following is an interesting article. Rabbit cannot agree with many of the assumptions made by the author, but it is probably the closest thing to middle ground Rabbit will ever accept.
The Ancient Greeks believed character is destiny, does this mean George Bush’s character is now shaping America’s destiny? Rabbit had a little mention of Daleks a day ago. We are always doing the synchronous image thing Lume and Rabbit.
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From White Phosphorous trhead. Synchronous thinking Luminous Rabbits. Shiny Rabbits.
Here is something for which caution would be advised, but of course they won't. Bloody Daleks! what next? Posted by GhostRabbit on Dec 8, 2005 at 4:48 AM
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Rabbit agrees, he gives too much credit to the Shrub, but isn't blind to as much as most morons. He strikes Rabbit as someone some of our Morons might be able to cope with, a middle ground. Maybe Rabbit is giving our morons too much credit. See Riverbend has got a book of her early blogging. Rabbit is in love with Riverbend. He read her whole blog from the start when he first found her a year and a half ago, and have been following her progress since. Also followed up some of the attacks which once rained down on her …
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Sometimes it pays to remind ourselves who the ultimate enemy is, and why even, removing the Neo-cons will not help anything unless the change is total, the whole system. Illuminati Scumsuckers.!
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Undoubtedly, Bush is drawing solace from Houston’s example and this may explain the president’s seemingly impervious serenity over his decision to invade Iraq. Bush firmly believes that leaders who act with the right intentions will eventually see their decisions vindicated. It is one reason Bush told Bob Woodward in Plan of Attack that we wouldn’t know for thirty years whether invading Iraq was the right call. Behind Bush’s decision to invade Iraq – and his resolution to stick it out no matter what – is his earnest conviction that God wants him to bring Democracy to the Middle East. Here, Bush …
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Hey Wiley if that other article pissed you off this one is really going to make your blood boil. Onward Christian Soldiers Rabbit is till only half way through and even though he'd caughtmuch of this along the way, this article brings collection and context between the various shockers. Poor old Shiela's. The Gender Niggers.
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So far the new security laws have resulted in a very dead electrician on a train in Britain, some people who might have thought about bombing something in Australia, And a Slightly disturbed man shot dead, in America, along with the controlled demolition of two passengers suitcases. We sure do have those freedom hating terrorists stumped. They probably can't stop laughing long enough to organise any sort of action.
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"And For What?!" Why to rotect our freedoms and way of life of course. Dubya said a Bad Thing!
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Wiley wakes slowly, Fire signs burn bright at night, starting slow. Rabbit starts with a Cappucino with Mrs Rabbit each morning, then an instant coffee or two once at work. Instant always tastes nasty after home ground Cino, but the Caffeine still works. Remember the Rabby is under your feet, it is now 10am here but it is late night there. You are also still in yesterday, Rabbit is in your tomorrow. His morning coffee is being drunk while you folk are going to bed.
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Poor Lume. Rabbit has just scored some of the new season's goodness, and is putting the final touches to a bit of West Aussie Blonde , which is nice to sprinkle over the mix too. He would gladly share but computer doesn't yet have this option. A picture would hardly do it. Bom Shiva anyway. ......................^^...................
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Wow, you guys must be really rich. Rabbit was hoping for a few plants for his office, a new mouse for his computer and a few new pairs of socks this christmas.
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Hi Eadora Good to see you around these parts again. See we have found a nice Witch to join the party, yet all the game has run away, except Natty of course, she's still slinking about in the background. BTW Rabbit has a little bloggy thing these days, but it isn't much. More of a home base, where he works on things with the odd bit of input. Lumens, (better Witch nomenclature), dost thou mean theat the apes are seeing the word but not the meaning? "They draw near to me with their lips, yet their hearts are far from …
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Dumb Rabbit. Maybe this is why? Too much demand maybe? Oz is probably similar stats.
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Hey, Eadora, do you know this Jason Pappas? Thinks I saw him on past threads on ITT. You have been around longer than Rabbit, at least on ITT, not so?
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Again. Jason Pappas? Not so fast Rabbit, slow down the button pushing.
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For Lumen especially, but all those who would join us in a better world. Have you seen this John Lennon Interview?
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Back on topic, the following article Rabbit just posted on WP thread as a link. Thinks it is good enough to be cut and pasted, mostly.
Torture And White Phosphorus John Chuckman "The captured terrorists of the 21st century do not fit easily into traditional systems of criminal or military justice, which were designed for different needs. We have to adapt." -- Condoleezza Rice I've previously charged Condoleezza Rice with having an appalling ignorance of history. I don't mean the kind of knowledge - dates of battles, names and terms of treaties, etc. - that earns a good grade on …
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There are many such cases known, and they must be regarded as more than administrative glitches. What are all those mysterious places in Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Romania, Poland, and as far away as Diego Garcia, now run by American crew-cut thugs and to which there is no access? What are all the many hundreds of flights recorded by dedicated amateur plane spotters and checked back to registration? Are we to believe the US is not running a huge, illegal secret prison and torture system? How could such an enterprise possibly conform to international agreements and treaties? Are there really thousands of people …
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Really it is all so very familiar. It is the face of the Trolls and Shills, the nature of the non-debate we are forced to endure when attempting to engage the Morons. Such a genius plan, they have removed the reason from people's lives, without reason there can be no avoiding conflict, if just once the idea of a demon can be implanted. Such a primitive state of existence, and awareness. It occurs to Rabbit that the Human Race is becoming polarised about two distinct forms of humanity. One is still ruled by ancient fears and prejudices, unable to concieve of …
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Oh what the heck. Rabbit lost a pertinent post to electro-gremlins and it is late and many tokes into the evening. Enough to say long live life, life is strife and the time is rapidly approaching when Rabbit must go home to his...................missus.
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Guys Jason Pappas (above), is an apparent junior Zionist and Muslim hating wingnut type. He also calls US Bush imitators. He has the appearance of a genuine full blown Troll and his own Blog is a small Troll cave. Rabbit is wacking them a bit for fun at the moment and highly recommends it. Chasing down Trolls in their caves is wicked good fun, one can lurk what's more and select your targets carefully. Not that rabbit has done so, he just jumped in with both feet after following the Troll's link to his own rants as Proof of something. Also …
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Thanks for the pictures, Wiley. Rabbit likes the Tree Rabbits with the Ducks. Has anyone ever put the words evil squirrel into a search engine? Squirrel pack kills dog.
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That's the idea Lume. Rabbit got really spiteful and dumped a heap of the stuff she'd left behind at God squad, onto her snarky head it was easier than reading anymore of her crap. I think she's dead meat, but since she is a Vampire its hard to tell, she has always smelled dead, metaphorically speaking. The hope was that she would do a finale on this torture thread, just to present her in balance for the museum display. DU..........911..........Torture. Neat and tidy. All in one Shilly bundle. Rabbit has become so contemptuous of her reason and mind that he was …
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They are said to have scampered off at the sight of humans, some carrying pieces of flesh. A pine cone shortage may have led the squirrels to seek other food sources, although scientists are sceptical. Jesus, it also says it was a BIG dog. They have run out of pine cones so they start on dogs? Woh........ ..............................Not tree rabbits.......Tree Rats........
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Well said Wiley. On the last point, as much as Rabbit is not prone to superstition, yet he is versed in some understandings which make for occultic knowledge. Does this make sense to a witch? Put the words in one's mind and feel the understanding come through. This leaves me with but one conclusion on this anti-christ thing, and all the religious armageddon stuff. Dear the answer is obvious, and the virtual inescapability of the impending scenario is obvious to any fourth dimensional soul. (Rabbit has a rant from long since about fourth dimensional thinking. Ask and you shall recieve.) We …
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Mysterious and shiny witch. A wonderful document, just another "godamned piece of paper". Desiderata Like so many things, what is generally believed about it is false. Not found a few hundred years ago in St Pauls Cathedral, but no less inspired for that.
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The hopper would ask things of Wiley, he is curious but will do so in less public spaces. Say hi to Rabbit in his field sometime, nobody except friends go there, it is fairly troll proof, without actually having a security fence.
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Also yes we need Trackers, tracking is time consuming, and can be hard to keep up with when one works alone. rabbit is trying to build a network of loosely aligned Troll Hunters. (STM Hunters really, Shills, Trolls, Morons), but Morons are more of a personal amusement and often just a part of Troll hunting. The morons often flock about a battle ground too, they make up a large percentage of the web race after all. There is no automatic increase in wisdom or intelligence just because one learns to turn on a computer and post on a discussion thread. Shills …
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Nothing new, but another commentary.
An Empire Without Virtue: The Defenders of Torture Paul Craig Roberts | December 12 2005 The spectacle of an American Secretary of State being sent to Europe to reassure America's allies that the US does not torture prisoners has brought an end to America's moral grandeur. America stands revealed before the world as just another unaccountable police state. Condi Rice's declaration that the Bush administration is too morally pure to engage in torture was just another transparent Bush administration deception. What is the point of Bush's rendition policy that Rice was sent to Europe to …
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In his defense of torture as a "moral duty," Krauthammer assumes that the person being tortured is guilty and will reveal the truth under torture. There is no basis whatsoever for Krauthammer's assumptions. The reason that the Bush administration and the neocons defend torture is that, having launched an illegal invasion and created an American police state, they are desperate for "evidence" of the terrorist threat in order to justify their illegal and unconstitutional policies. The only way to obtain this "evidence" is to torture people until they confess to the plots that are invented for them. A steady stream of …
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Rabbit has been waiting for this to turn up again. Sorry it's off topic again, but is still about DoD lies. Death Count is Bullshit
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On the subject of Trolls, since it is off topic, and you ask Eadora, Rabbit will comment further at his field, where there are actual Troll threads. Rabbit is definately an autodidact, but David had studied the literature a bit. Rabbit prefers to do it, then read what others say about it, when one has some context to relate it all too. E-mail is sent.
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Rabbit had a big reply all typed up and the computer struck again. Still think it's off topic here and since Dave has reposted all this on Rabbits Troll thread, he will start answering there. It is a bit flippant for a torture discussion thread.
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Having said that Rabbit would add that Wiley has got it, and the implications. Not all people are able to get better, at least in the tinme allotted. Some are just going to have to go, so that someone at least can continue. It might as well be those who have a penchant for death and armageddons. Rabbit said it before about the Lemmings, shall see if he can dig it up, for relevance..
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Rabbit wonders that Eadora got a returned e-mail. Maybe he is being fiddled with by the Offical Watchers? Dave is right, the Torture topic was not something anybody seemed inclined to want to defend for long if at all. Oh they had their say: "it isn't torture if we do it" "The USA doesn't torture" and "they did it first". But even the Nat the Rat declined to get into it. Guess even the scumsucking bottom dwellers who support the Junta have a problem facing this one, even with all their craven denials and blatant mindless excuses, something about standing up …
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Rabbit shall stand. Until the sky falls on him. Then he will kiss this game goodbye and find a new one.
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Once again the Rabbit has been locked out, Rabbit is not allowed to post, probably Shills and Troll work. Once again, Rabbit's ghost must come forth, to cry out for justice.. He is known as the Ghost who hops. Wolfie seems to be suggesting that, it doesn't matter how people are killed, then this leads Rabbit to ponder the following. Rabbit is just guessing, but Wolfie has probably not seen anyone die. Or if he has, they were probably not gauging their eyeballs, and tearing lumps of their own flesh away in a futile effort to stop the pain. Rabbit contends …
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Huh Huh...........Spook Bunny........... The Natty has done a runner and the Rabbit is banned. She will be back shortly expecting to see the Rabbit dead, but will meet his ghost instead. Now Wolfie, the Rabbit's suggestions of better ways to kill your targeted population. It does not matter how it's done, War is horrible and death is final, so how about we use the example of depleted urnium as an example. That is allowing the USA to get rid of lots of nasty uranium waste, at the same time as raining death and millions of years of radiation down on some …
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If the Terrorist uses a bomb to blow up an airplane and the plane crashes killing everyone onboard, that is evil. If he kills the people by spraying Gasoline all over them and then setting them on fire, it would still class as an evil act. Terrorists, make the argument that there are no innocent civilians in a war of retaliation against state injustice, when the state is a democracy. The victims of the bombing were legitimate targets for the Terrorist. His task is to apply maximum shock, bring attention to his plight from the largest number of people. The people …
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Rabbit thinks the best way to compare Shia and Sunni branches of Islam is to consider Protestants and Catholics. They basically differ on the authority, to represent the original God idea. One lot believes the prophet's authority passes on in one way and the other mob have a different view. Wiley, Rabbit knows not what is up with his blog. Maybe you need to register a name with Blogger? Ask Dave, he works it anyway. Being a fiddly paws Rabbit means sometimes I turn on or off some weird functions. Also what Dahr Jamail said. Rabbit read his article Fallujah …
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By the way Wiley. Rabbit's best Middle Eastern Friends are Kurdish Iranians. They are all Pershmerga, living on Nato passports in Europe these days. Some were in the Shah's guard even. They taught Rabbit to make Hashish properly, nice guys and not religious at all. They were of cause obviously Muslim though in the sense of the basic cultural differences, just as Rabbit is Christian in the same sense, despite being excommunicated by the Christian Church, and having long since identified himself as Budhist and finally Gnostic. Anyway, the difference between Shia and Sunni is no more complicated and maybe less …
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Rabbit just read something which makes him think of Richard Bach, Jonathan Livingston Seagull, and broought a tear to his eye. Rabbit too can identify with all the feelings of this Canadian.
P-51 - An American Ambassador Remembered By Lea MacDonald leamacdonald@wapda.com 12-4-5 It was noon on a Sunday as I recall, the day a Mustang P-51 was to take to the air. They said it had flown in during the night from some US airport, the pilot had been tired. I marveled at the size of the plane dwarfing the Pipers and Canucks tied down by her, it was much …
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We stood for a few moments in stunned silence trying to digest what we'd just seen. The radio controller rushed by me to the radio. "Kingston radio calling Mustang?" He looked back to us as he waited for an acknowledgment. The radio crackled, "Kingston radio, go ahead." "Roger Mustang. Kingston radio would like to advise the circuit is clear for a low level pass." I stood in shock because the controller had, more or less, just asked the pilot to return for an impromptu air show! The controller looked at us. "What?" He asked. "I can't let that guy go without …
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In a discussion about White Phosphorous use, Iraq and LIES, this is relevant. I hope those who are facilitating the evil and the lies, by their willful ignorance and cheerleading, feel as much shame as many of you must feel sadness. No less the Rabbit, who grew up thinking he was an American, from TV and movies and music. It was a bit of a dispointment for a young Rabbit to learn he could not really be a cowboy, since he was not an American. But he aspired to be John Wayne or Clint Eastwood, Steve Austen The six million dollar …
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A quote therefrom, minus links. Rabbit desires that the following distinction be made, something WTH, and others never grasped either. Just because I support the fact that one force may be dominating another doesn't mean I have to support either in the end run. The real enemy is several levels beyond our petty national politics.
In a sense, every time we report on the latest embarrassment to inflict America's geopolitical standing, we are helping the Globalists further their ultimate end game. Should we be silent on such issues? Obviously not. But we should go to great lengths to stress that these …
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What about 5) Justifiable if it makes me feel less terror and more safe. ............ Minerva, you have to give them at least one choice they can identify with.
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When the only difference between the use of a weapon being legal or illegal is intention, then we ought to err on the side of restraint. This includes (for me) the manufacture of live vaccines---especially those resurrected from a pandemic. Works for Rabbit. He worries a bit about them dicking around with nasty horrible things just because they can. How about we just start taking ourselves and our precarious presence on this lump of rock ,swooping through space at incomprehensible speeds, SERIOUSLY. One does not have to be a Micro-biologist to notice the strange patterns of pandemics and prion diseases, …
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Here is something for which caution would be advised, but of course they won't. Bloody Daleks, what next?
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CS Lewis is on the rise lately. His star is shining brightly, his tales are finding a new audience, and he speaks with a tongue which we can more easily relate to in this day and age, perhaps. The author who is constantly on Rabbit's small mind, is Lewis Carroll. Especially when thinking about politics and society.
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Does this not have a strange resonance with anyone, sound like any presidents we know?
ALICE was beginning to get very tired of sitting by her sister on the bank and of having nothing to do: once or twice she had peeped into the book her sister was reading, but it had no pictures or conversations in it, "and what is the use of a book," thought Alice, "without pictures or conversations?' ----------------------------------------------- "-- yes that's about the right distance -- but then I wonder what Latitude or Longitude I've got to?" (Alice had not the slightest idea what Latitude was, …
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Dubya in Wonderland? Georgy in Wonderblunder?
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The Rabbit was never particluarly fond of Alice to be honest. She didn't grow on me at all. Have just decided to re-read Alice, it's amazing how many books one can find online these days. Every book Rabbit has gone looking for a quote from, has turned up in total on the web. Re-reading 1984 next, it's on the web of course, and easier than taking the book from the shelf at home. Any way, Rabbit is on thread to add an article he just found about Torture and WP. It's written with an emphasis on Condi, but the language is …
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Dave that Jason Pappas is a Troll master................. Help the Rabbit is drowning in Troll piss............................................... .....Troll Piss! Why did the Rabbit take a swipe at it when it was in it's lair?
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This is the Troll lair, or cave Wiley. It is the same Papa Jason who blurted a bit on Torture, and who linked to his own Bigoted rant as proof of things he blathered there also. Rabbit saw a Troll cave and jumped in intrepidly, if a little foolishly, and wacked them all a bit. Yet Rabbit is trying to extricate himself safely now, for they are shocked and wary, but by no means is such a site a place to remain for long. In and out. Before they have a chance to re-group, and trust in the relief they …
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Troll Piss is a Metaphor for what Trolls squirt out when frightened and fighten.
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David Loves the Trolls...................David loves the Trolls ....................^^............. Dave, Rabbit must wack the Trolls. Rabbit wacked the Jay, but so did others, and Rabbit was honest and forthright with Jay from the first meeting. Always giving the Jay credit where it was possible, gave him several opportunities to avoid some blows, and to feel at least considered, if not loved. He spurned all kindness like he did logic. In the end what appeared to scare him away, it really took the wind out of his sails, was when Rabbit promised to do something in particular. His Swan song followed immediately after, …
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Jay probably complained about Rabbit, a parting gift, for he has as said been banned again it seems. It would be something if they told you why they did these things at least. Sure Rabbit has been very mean to Natty, but even a glance at the history puts that into new perspective.
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No, I am definately blocked from posting as Rabbit. I've tried logging off and on a few times, this is the only handle available. For sure. The Flipping/flopping Rabbit/GhostRabbit thing may have been due to having been logged in as Ghost still on threads since logging in as Rabbit on others. That was fixed. The block is on Rabbit. The Ghost who Hops...........................^^............................
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Yes I thought that too. Still the decisions to stop the hopper are made like all such things from a great height....................Rabbit looking uP..........................and it is noticed that they, namely Seamus.......................Rabbit looks up again..................... has time to get around to checking the thread, he just pushes the button, or maybe some even higher one does, and the Rabbit who was the principal antagonist of the Trolls and or Shills, went into the toilet. The Ghost who Hops was forgotten by the Morons. This makes it seem even more likely that at least one complaint was made by one of the fleeing …
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Rabbit used your fishy thing without asking and he should perhaps have done,..........sorry. See it is a different one, but complicateder to do.
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Trying to follow sociopaths and justify their ever more insane actions is what leads so many morons into the state of insanity, of denial and apparant insanity themselves. They are necessarily unbalanced which is why trolls always eventually can self destruct, if the pressure is kept up. As said however Shills are immune to this, and the continued lack of emotion of a Shill, like Nat the Bat, is one of the surest indicators of a Shill. It takes a while and it is usually late confirmation, other features having given the Shill away by then. Rabbit is concerned Wiley. Those …
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Maybe more importantly, the electrons will dance on into the universe, testimony to something more than blind stupidity. Somewhere in an infinite universe our electronic testimony exists forever. Witness that while some of this race were a terrible aberration, and worthless, some shone bightly for a moment, and justified the existence even of the rest.
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Dance Dance wherever you may be, for I am the Lord of the Dance said he.......... And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be...........for I am the Lord of the Dance said he. Rabbit is for something. His Ideals and intentions are stated, his methods and ways are his own. Maps are of no use to people who are lost. Words must be planted in minds grown sterile, this takes cunning, and guile. Magic is good too.
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Intrigued is the Rabbit............
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Kuya Rabbit has no choice but to admit, that the tuth is not easy to get at, as far as actual death counts. The problem is not the internet, but the abuse of it, and of all media sources, by those who would keep the truth from being found or disseminated.
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Natty is the only one specifying video, but Rabbit has said he can't be bothered playing anymore. There happens to be Video, but out of contempt for you Rabbit will not even bother posting a link. There is more than enough reports, from reliable media given, so whinge all you like, but you've got nothing. You cannot believe anything which reflects badly on the USA and Rabbit has made his feelings about the USA very clear, and that the loathing and distrust has grown the last five years along with the rest of the world. Rabbit repeats Natty is lying and …
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Oh and lying Shill, the Rabbit knows his computer was being hacked. there is a thing called a technician, which Rabbit once was, but is rusty now days, who can indeed find such things out. We know the computer was being hacked. Rabbit knows you are a SHILL, so does everyone else, by the way. Roger Helbig is a Pentagon Shill, and that is history, and you were his partner, your blatant shilling initially while pretending to be an openminded passer by, waws completely blown open, and the history stanmds there to prove it. Rabbit does not care whether you are …
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Oh and Natty, Rabbit was wondering when you would post the BYU statement about Jones work. Rabbit read it about a week ago. So what? they don't do anything except cover their own ass. Everyone knows they got leant on big time. Their government funding and a number of private individuals was under threat. How stupid do you think we are? You of course know that perfectly well, you are as said not deluded, you are a genuine professional liar. The university is his employer, cow, and not his colleagues. The colleagues whoi sat through the presentation, agreed, 100%. Furthermore, Idiot …
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Rabbit owns a Kayak factory, rotational moulding actually. He has many interests, including fishing, hunting and blowing things up, in colour, preferably. Annoying Shills and hunting Trolls off sites is also a hobby of Rabbits. The Radioactive wounds of War article is being dealt with on other media, since the controversy, by the way, was my point. Rabbit has seen it linked to by no fewer than five other outlets now, including Counterpunch. Rabbit promised you and the lying Colonel, that you were digging your own graves, or an elephant trap for the Pentagon. You have. By your strident panic to …
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Looks like Captain Doug Rokke is still kicking you in the teeth? Just a personal Blog entry, opinion. The Children, learn to live with it. Natty cares about Children, she thinks they make great shields, she tried using some Iraqi kids as a shield once, dirty shill. Arab American Priest This article is promising, this is what is coming to get you, LIARS.
An Arab-American Priest, Depleted Uranium, and Iraq By Robert Hirschfield Father Simon Harak (Photo R. Hirschfield). TRAVELING around southern Iraq in the late 1990s to investigate the effects of U.N. economic sanctions on ordinary …
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Harak recalled being told by doctors in Basra that the deformed children they were delivering reminded them of the pictures they had seen of Chernobyl babies. When a baby is born in Basra, the doctors said, the first question the mother asks her obstetrician is: “Is it all right?” Lacking in the late ‘90s, when he was in Iraq, and needed now, he said, were scientific studies, longitudinal and cause-and-effect studies, that would prove conclusively that there was uranium in the blood of deformed children and cancer victims. “The tests cost $1,000 each,” Harak bemoaned. “And when the sanctions were in …
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And no video of any of them. How convenient. How ridiculous. Not even Judge Jones mentions this nonsense.
Now what has Professor Jones done to upset Natty so? He has written a report wherein he specifically staes he is avoiding all other issues except those wherein his expertise lay. If Natty had read anything before she attacked it, she would not have asked such a redundant question. Ad Hominen attacks is all Natty knows. His report is very scientific Natty, if you ever read it you will see how a real scientist reports, not those fakes your lot used to …Posted to Democrats: It's the War
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So Lying Shill, are you a complete mercenary? A traitor to the USA as well as to Humankind? Attack on the USS Liberty by Israel. A bit of History of Jewish atrocities. One does not have to be anti Jewish to decry their atrocities, and more than one has to be anti Christian to decry their Atrocities. Of course we know that all those who are decrying Muslim atrocities are anti muslim, that can be seen in the illegal wars of aggression your nation is engaged in. The main feeling among American supporters of the aggression is Anti Muslim, …
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Natty in more ad hominem attacks dares to question Rabbit's expertise. You know something girly your ignorance gets greater by the day. You poverty of mind is so sad. Rabbit does not need to qualify himself to you, he has demonstrated complete expertise and exoplained things from the viewpoint of an expert, and you have yet dared to try and argue when you admittedly know nothing. Actually Rabbit has dropped three buildings and they were all steel, though they were only large steel structures, one was a thirty meter silo and Rabbit removed the roof like a frisbee as indicated. He …
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Right. I’m sure that’s what he meant. He couldn’t posssibly have meant that it’s time to pull the team out because collapse is inevitable.
Every time Rabbit looks at your post, he finds new lies and stupid mistakes. he has been waiting for you to try this one. Well smarty, the building was completely evacuated by the time Silverstein decided to "Pull it" as he says. In fact if you read what he said at the time, he had just stated that the building was fully evacuated. Fool. Guess that we're back to square one on that one too. You …Posted to Democrats: It's the War
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Something more to annoy the LIARS.
911 for Very Busy People You're really busy, right? You've heard something about 9-11 and conspiracy theories, but you don't have time for it. Right? Well, here is a very brief executive summary for you of some of the facts about 9-11 which you likely have never heard (and which will bring you up to speed on the issue in around 2 minutes): • The 9-11 Commission refused to examine the vast majority of evidence about 9/11, and even the former director of the FBI says there was a cover up by the …
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the rest.........
• While the government has consistently stated that it did not know where the aircraft were before they struck, the Secretary of Transportation testified before the 9/11 Commission that Vice President Cheney monitored flight 77 for many miles as it approached the Pentagon • A third world trade center building, called building 7, collapsed on the afternoon of 9/11, but was never hit by plane, fell at the same speed as if there were no floors or walls to cause resistance, contained only small fires before the collapse, and became the first steel-frame building in history to collapse …
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The full story and all the references to prove that NINE of the nineteen are alive and well. The actual references are solid, discussion which ignores each individual report, and it's veracity is anything but the usual smoke and mirrors. If Rabbit has started by offering a video of any of them, Natty would not have accepted that as proving anything, and on it's own Rabbit would agree. The proof is within that reference, it isn't worth Rabbit re-posting something with dozens of links. Nor is it going to help Natty's case to come along and say it isn't …
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This is a new one for Rabbit It sure does get the message out loud and clear. It covers the Hijackers too of course but so much more. Another site against your lies, how can you cope Natty? Do you have enough hate to go around? Or does each newborn resister to the LIES come with it's own new injection of Hate for your scummy soul? OK Rabbit is bored now, he will be back to see how much wriggling you do on the barbs of truth, in a day or so. Or then again he might just find some …
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Here are some issues about the September 11th attacks to consider: World Trade Center Towers *Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel. Footage shows explosives were placed in both towers before the attack to cause the towers to disintegrate into dust. *The towers fell exactly into their footprint, taking the path of most resistance in about 10 seconds, the same amount of time it takes an object to fall that distance in a vacuum. *The towers tossed massive steel beams 200 feet in each direction, too far to be explained by a gravity collapse. Survivors and firefighters …
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Not all of the above FACTS have to lead to something for them to support a much different theory than yours. But, They ALL have to be wrong for your theory to be true. Like the probability and all the other logic and science, you'll just have to leave that to the experts, and the sensible people, to conclude, since logic is not Natty's strong suit. You'd make a great magicians assistant though.
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Funny Natty should use Professor Astenah for her case, we have already presented his results, and dealt with the limitations of his work, in support of our case.
Please describe the impediments that you encountered during the investigation of the collapse of the WTC buildings, such as the loss of material from the WTC site and any effects of such impediments on your work. I wish I had more time to inspect steel structure and save more pieces before the steel was recycled. However, given the fact that other teams such as NIST, SEAONY and FEMA-BPAT have also done …
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Yawn.........^^..........
THE WTC WAS DESIGNED TO SURVIVE THE IMPACT OF A BOEING 767 Fact. The twin towers were designed to withstand a collision with a Boeing 707. The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 707-320B is 336,000 pounds. The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 767-200ER is 395,000 pounds. The wingspan of a Boeing 707 is 146 feet. The wingspan of a Boeing 767 is 156 feet. The length of a Boeing 707 is 153 feet. The length of a Boeing 767 is 159 feet. The Boeing 707 could carry 23,000 gallons of fuel. The Boeing 767 could carry 23,980 …
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Oh Rabbit almost forgot. Don't try talking about explosives Natty, you are way out of your league there. Rabbit said that Thermite is not a True Explosive which is true, but technically speaking nor is gunpowder, it is a distinction made at the level of pyrotechnic chemistry with which Rabbit is familiar, it is however a distincion completely moot in the case of even a Physics professor, and certainly for a twit like your self, Thermite is an explosive. Jones mentions it and refers to it as an explosive. It is quite simple, just because it can be made to go …
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It goes bang, especially when used in demolitions, because, yes you did guess it, it has to have a detonation, and that results in a bang, a very specific bang if you know what to listen for, but it was interesting to note how some witnesses described the explosions they heard, like a POP POP POP said one firefighter. yes, that sounds familiar, not so much a sharp high explosive bang which amongst concrete buildings as sound shields would have been distorted a bit, more af a slower POP, the detoantion is the start but the Thermite will give a slower …
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Hi Beowulf, like a Norse Warrior of old, returned from his wanderings, to find, Hitlers Goons, the nasty Vampire Hag, spreading lies and sliming peoples eyes. She has had that link several times but says she wants a video. She is insatiable, we know full well that a video would also have been dismissed out of hand. See how she has crippled herself by introducing Professor Astenahs work now. Rabbit is about to post her response to OUR introduction of Astenah when it was relevant. Just to show the moral poverty and craven nature of the beast.
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Here it is, Natty's response to The mention of Professor Astenah, mentioned in context of the dissatisfaction with missing evidence, and the simulations, unsatisfactory as all admitted they were in some respects. They showed what would happen when the plene flew into the building and they didn't show a collapse.
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As much as it pains me to say it, I was quite premature and simply bigoted to initially doubt the professor from Berkley based solely on the “blueness” of his geographical location. At the time, I was unclear about his attitude because for some reason I hadn’t come across his more recent report: In other words, now that you realise he didn't completely write off the official lie and you think you can use him, he is suddenly trustworthy, without you have done a scrap more research. Actually the report you dealt with is not new, is one of the …
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Oh Blast....... the Natty quote got lost. here it is. The way she answered our mention of Astenah, the same sort of response she gives to all of dozens of other engineers, experts in various fields of consequence, and a few high ranbking government ministers from various countries including the USA.
................although I wouldn’t be surprised if a professor from Berkley would attempt to exonerate the terrorists. Posted by Natalie on Oct 15, 2005 at 6:33 AM
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Now Rabbit, surely you don’t expect me to believe that you didn’t take any pictures of your magnificent demolitions. (Actually, just kidding....I know from experience that one can easily forget their camera for an important event) Rabbit has clearly indicated that what you believe is of no consequence to him. You are a SHILL, which goes without saying we can know beforehand everything you will indicate as your beliefs. Rabbit has proved it and will be doing so again in a few more rounds. He has plans for some new dance steps he wants you to try out. You have …
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A small detail, not everybody runs around with a camera sweety, that's an even more prosaic explanation. But Rabbit has some wicked Video footage of some of his fireworks displays which might make his bloggy thing one day. You are being stuffed and mounted for display in his Museum of Shills, Trolls and Special Morons. This was promised about two posts before the one you quoted from Whit about Astenah on page five here. Rabbit was reminded of it whilst looking at your dissembling and twisting back then. Two months later the Museum is up, but the displays are bare. You …
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You call others biased when you are so biased we can predict your every BELIEF just by considering the official government line. Let's go Natty, tell us you vary from the official line on one issue, one single issue of consequence. You cannot, because you are a Shill. Any natural human being has various views, we proved that with the Trolls, and at leats a few of them always run contrary to the official line. Not Natty, she is a Shill. Torture Natty? You deny it happens, at the same time as you justify it anyway. We know, because that is …
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Natty is asking for video which nobody ever promised, nobody needs and which as said would prove nothing. Those guys are alive, as Beowulf has said, fool, everyone knows that, you are living in a fools world. It has been repeatedly pointed out, and is at least of consequence, that the government is "Hiding" the video evidence which would exonerate it, if they were not lying, which they are. We don't need the video to know they are lying, and you are not changing anybody's mind. In fact your blatant denial and shilling is helping to show many people the poverty …
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Are you blind by the way, can you not see you have had masses of proof that the seven and possibly noine are alive? Of course you can, It has been posted repeatedly and even oethers ahve done, you are just in a little bit of a frenzy because you think that for once you have asked for something and Rabbit has not produced it. You asked for Engineers when it was not necessary for the facts being presented, yet Rabbit obliged the stupid girl and posted several reprts by engineers which support the theory that explosives were need to bring …
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Taking a Closer Look: Hard Science and the Collapse of the World Trade Center by Dave Heller, article originally appeared in Garlic and Grass While it may be difficult to awaken everyone from their state-induced fog of fear, we are at a critical point in history which requires us to try. We truly must take an objective look at the facts and evidence surrounding 9-11. While none of the many 9-11 researchers knows exactly what happened on that fateful day in September almost 3 years ago, any sensible person can easily spot dozens of inconsistencies in the official story that is …
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The world's media has reported that many of the so-called hijackers "fingered" by the FBI are still alive. For example the BBC (British Broadcasting Cooperation) carried this report: Hijack "suspects" alive and well. The following article is a remake of http://www.mujahideen.fsnet.co.uk/wtc/wtc-hijackers.htm which lists many of the media articles dealing with the hijackers who were not hijackers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Abdul Aziz Al-Omari (Flight 11) (Trained Pilot) The identities of two men with the same name have been cobbled together to create an FBI "terrorist". Both are Alive! The first has the same name, the same birth date as one of the FBI "terrorists" …
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I think Natty's need for a video on top of this, is just sour grapes. Why do you spend so much time arguing things which don't actually make a scrap of difference to the main contention that the government was behind it? This we have certainly left no doubt about of course but there is so much more coming in at the moment that Rabbit is happy to keep adding more fuel to the fire under your cause , Vampire.
Saeed Al-Ghamdi (Flight 93) (Trained Pilot) "Saeed Al-Ghamdi is one of three hijackers that US officials have said are linked to …
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Salem Al-Hazmi (Flight 77) "Mr Al-Hamzi is 26 and had just returned to work at a petrochemical complex in the industrial eastern city of Yanbou after a holiday in Saudi Arabia when the hijackers struck. He was accused of hijacking the American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Khalid Al-Mihdhar (Flight 77) "Saudi officials at the embassy were unable to verify the whereabouts of the fifth accused hijacker, Khalid Al-Mihdhar. However, Arab newspapers say Al-Mihdhar is still alive. "..... there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar may also be alive." - …
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THE ARABS ARE NOT TO BLAME FOR THE WTC ATTACK. The evidence is such that the only people we can be sure DID NOT carry out the WTC bombing are the Arabs. The trouble with the case against bin Laden and the Arabs, so far, is that it is laughable. It is a joke. The WTC attack, described as brilliantly planned and executed by professionals, who some how forget to acquire (easily obtainable) false driver's licenses for identification and, if you can believe it (and most people can not) used their real names when boarding the aircraft. The FBI suspect list …
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Commercial Pilot & Aeronautical Engineer Explains Why Official 9/11 Story About Pentagon Is Bogus Nila Sagadevan sets the record straight about Pentagon crash while 9/11 fringe movement meets Dec. 7 in Tampa for beginning of five-day rally. By Greg Szymanski 12-6-5 It's impossible to fit a square peg in a round hole. It's equally as impossible to fit a large 757 airliner through a small hole like left in the Pentagon wall after 9/11. And this is just one of the many examples that the official 9/11 story makes no sense. In fact, it makes about as much sense as trying …
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"You mean to tell me, the supposed terrorist overpowered the pilot, who weighed more than 185 lbs and trained in the military. And then after that overpowered the co-pilot in the same manner, a person who also weighed upwards of 185 lbs," said Sagadevan, emphasizing experts aren't needed to explain the absurdity of this portion of the government story. "I am not sure if anyone has been in the cockpit of one of one of these big jets, but I will tell you there isn't much space. How in the world would one man pull out two big pilots in cramped …
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"I really don't understand how anyone could give the government's story any credibility after seeing the original pictures taken of the small hole left in the Pentagon wall by whatever flew into it," said Sagadevan. "I am not totally sure what the military used but one thing for sure, it wasn't a 757 jetliner." Sagadevan is referring to the tiny circumference of the hole left in the Pentagon wall, illustrated on pictures taken right after the crash scene, but immediately taken out of circulation and never widely distributed by the news media to the American people. "I think if someone just …
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One of the best ways to prove a hypothesis, is to use it to predict something. Assuming Natty is a SHILL and it has been noticed that she isn't a very smart one, then it started to become obvious to Rabbit that one thing she is so constantly denying and referring to, despite Rabbit having never seriously proposed it was the theory that no plane hit the pentagon. She seemed just a little too eager to keep protesting something which Rabbit wasn't promoting. Why is she so concerned about this? Ah Ha, the Shill shows where it's treasure is hidden again. …
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Anyone who wants to wade through the technical stuff, these guys have made a very interesting case. Shows the incredible maneuvers supposedly performed by inexperienced, even incompetant pilots, interetsting patterns emerge. Team8plus
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Enjoy, bye for now, Vampire suck up some more defeat for your cause,. Down Down deeper and down. A Good days Shill wacking, that team8 presentation is probably really getting some of Natty's employers very hot under the collar. Come on Natty, you are dead in the water., Rabbit can go on posting excellent resources, they are coming down the pipeline more and more as the movement grows. As long as you slither and slime about you are once again only bringing further discredit on a cause which has shown as Rabbit predicted even less chance of success than your DU …
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Poor readers to read through it all. Poor Rabbit to post it all. Poor electrons who work hard to make it all happen. Poor Natty's computer which is being forced to perform the devils work. An Apple too, how sad. Why won't the Vampire take the bait Dave? Do you think it knows Rabbit is trying to trick it? Torture...............Nat the Bat................Torture.......smell of blood, come and stand up for the torture which is so much a part of US foreign policy it seems. The perfect accompaniment to Depleted Uranium. Torture Jiggle ...... jiggle ....was that a nibble
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In case you were wondering, Rabbit is building a bracket. ..................................................^^...........................................
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Natty quickly. Help these poor defenders of the USA, they are trying to stand up for denial and delusion, but are clearly out numbered, at least in IQ count. They need your help "Help, Natalie, help, we need an Innocent, wide eyed, all American Girl to come to our rescue, ....help..... we need her open mind and discernment, her unique American morality to show these ignorant Witches and Rabbits and to hold back the light, it's hurting our eyes, help....." Torture, .. Blood....smell the death Vampire.
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Ha ha, she has bitten, and was Rabbit quick on the line or what. Rabbit swears he posted that last post totally randomly, between boats, and he got her, the eel is on the line, a bit. Natty nothing you said was a surprise, it was exactly the way Rabbit predicted you would eneter the fray. Start saying torture is evil and you abhor it, and then start pointing your nasty finger at Saddam Hussein, at the Taliban, and anywhere , but away from yourself. Of course you abhor Torture you good little Shill. Lovely loopy Vampy miss, did you seriously …
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Wrong Place, you go to the right thread, this is cowardly, avoiding even the real debate. Sneaking around like a disease.
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Nat that last post didn' register on the referencing scale, have you leanred nothing yet? Take it where it counts, Rabbit is out of here, you've got directions.
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Yes Natty that's right, you have convinced the Rabbit, you are just so logical and all, that is why you have so many others convinced as well. More ad-hominem attacks , but what could we expect from the dregs of moral and intellectual credibility, such as thou. Rabbit has repeated the same questions many times, because you were ignoring them, if that is railing girly so be it. You are the one who has Railed at anyone who said anything you didn't like, without even checking any facts, as you proved with Professor Astenah. Denying and Lying it is easy to …
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Over to the right thread and you will have your answers, and Rabbit has a lovely one for you. Not here, you are such a messy creature. Rabbit asked permission of relevant people, to use the God Squad Thread for a 911 dust up. You came and were very rude on this thread. Now you are being rude as well as cowardly and slimy, by answering a Torture Issue when it was raised all along as a relevant thread. Rabbit is sick of 911 issues just now, things are moving along nicely in the area anyway, there is no stopping the …
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Natty, Saddams torture was relevant to Rabbit when Saddam was in power and the USA was supporting him, supplying him with Weapons of Mass Destruction and turning a blind eye to horrors which haven't been equalled until the USA started using depleted Uranium and White Phosphorous and Napalm on Iraqi towns. He has had and still has friends in Iraq and out for whom it is more real than your Shill briefings.
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Just because Hussein was evil, does not set a bemchmark below which all else is acceptable. You are probably too young to remember how democracy and freedom used to be defined. How Civilized countries acted, but it was not what you are trying to sell. You are a fine one to talk about not answering things. You have answered as said selected small bits and ignored 95% of what was written. Always trying to debate non starters, for no other reason than to avoid the real issues. You have ignored both the Surviving Alleged Hiajckers and the destroyed evidence from the …
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Oh and Natty, let Rabbit warn you in advance, The New York Times, does not pass for a credible source these days, especially about Iraq., That little tale above doesn't have a chance of being taken seriously if you can't do a bit better than that. What sort of a dream world do you live in?
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Oh but Rabbit. Wasn’t it the NY Times that led the charge for months on end about all the “atrocities” and “torture” that were committed by the U.S. in anti-grab? No Natalie, not as Rabbit noticed, it was printed all over the worlds media and neither Rabbit nor anyone he knows reads the NYT. Assuming you meant Abu-Ghraib I think you’ve finally said something that resembles reality: “The New York Times does not pass for a credible source” Actually, in this case, it was only a reprint of the CNN’s chief’s words, so we’ll go with it. I guess we …
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Natalie you did not arrive at the conclusions you have about 911, by thinking about anything, how stupid do you think we are ? Or how stupid are you if you think that what happened when you got those those ideas was called thinking. That was called believing. Blind acceptance. Like all these things you push the one line and ignore all else precisely becasue you cannot and have not thought about anything. There are no words in the language to describe the degradation of language, the base prostitution of concepts as excuses for sheer Shilling of the official lie. Nothing …
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Ha Ha. Natalie the Shill, thinks that posting this garbage, the usual As-hominem attacks. You don't seriously think anyone is going to even bother reading any of that? Even Rabbit only skimmed it. Worthless, ad-hominem, attacks on strawmen argumenst. Been there before, you don't comprehend Facts, opinions and the separation of the two, proven. You don't comprehend the differnec between presenting a selection of genuine news, and reporting the offiical paid for broadcasts which are stock in trade for the MSM you still rely on You are alone, friendless, clueless and completely disrespected. Rabbit has just been looking at some of …
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The first outing of Ramjet was of utmost importance in showing that a known Shill for the Pentagon lies was involved. At that point had you been open minded you would have read all the references given by people. Rabbit just did so last night, went through all the refs and sources given in just the first two pages, and Natalie there is no way anyone could have emerged after that with anything but a conviction that so called Depleted Uranium was an unnaceptable way to wage war. That is important when related to your claims of having tried to …
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oops, I meant You and DU were the only things those two threads had in common. Now if you are not connected to Roger you have to realise that someone was pulling monkey tricks, and what about Pale Rider? the same thing happened and he was very polite. But his info was dynamite, and somebody didn’t want it being said. Now how can you feel good about supporting somebody who is clearly pulling such dishonest tricks if you are yourself honest? Rabbit even admitted whenever he knew other posters, before being accused, which was silly since they were admitted Rabbit …
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To be taken seriously you need to admit that Ramjet is one, he is long since ID’d, years ago. You have seen the evidence of it, and equally so if you were not one who complained about either I or Pale Rider. If you can admit this but still say you were acting independantly Rabbit will extend the benefit of the doubt even further. “abusive, insulting, and yes threatening words for me and others were borne of your inability to effectively defend your position” ...Natalie the thread stands yet and any can see that Rabbit’s words were justifiably harsh but …
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POPULAR MECHANICS. Rabbit read the Popular Mechanic article when it first came out, and independantly came to all the same conclusions as follows. The most obvious thing to Rabbit was that most of the “Alternative theories” they were debunking, were not widely held and were already considered to be disinformation by many of us then. So these clown set up an strw man and proceeded to attack it, without even much success then as I recall, Rabbit is as mentioned not altogether foreign to exngineering and physics and on these points alone they show ignorance. We can deal with each of …
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This is an excellent site, very information intensive and it deals with the Popular Mechanics article in it’s historical perspective. The rest of the site is worth looking at if you intend to sriously challenge Rabbit. Be aware Natalie that Rabbit has the advantage of probably having read everything you have, but a whole lot more besides. Rabbit has a huge advantage, and he is not boasting about it. Rabbit is a sportsman, and would prefer a challenging hunt any day. You are being advised to be better armed. Of course if you are capable of having an open mind, you …
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Whit posted the following to you: Published on Sunday, October 9, 2005 by The Independent Tell Us Who Fabricated the Iraq Evidence (P1) by Norman Dombey President Bush’s principal adviser Karl Rove is to be questioned again over the improper naming of a CIA official. Mohamed ElBaradei, accused by the American right of being insufficiently aggressive, wins the Nobel Peace Prize for his stalwart work at the helm of the International Atomic Energy Agency. Pentagon official Larry Franklin pleads guilty to passing on classified information to Israel. Just a normal week in politics. But there is a thread linking these …
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Tell Us Who Fabricated the Iraq Evidence (P2) by Norman Dombey A clue to the ancestry of these black arts can be found in 1980, when right-wing Republicans wanted Ronald Reagan elected. They publicised a story that Billy Carter, the then President Jimmy Carter’s colourful brother, had received $50,000 (Ł28,000) from the Libyan government. The story was always denied by the President and no evidence of the payment was found, but the story helped to elect Reagan. Its source? Sismi, and an associate of a man called Michael Ledeen. Ledeen is an intriguing and enduring presence in the murkier parts of …
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Now it is not normally considered good form or much point in attacking the credibility of the author or publication, but it is by no means a blanket rule. If as in this case it shows the magazine is of a certain bias, and that the author is also, “AND” that they have not actually made any contribution except to build and demolish straw men. Rabbit already sadi we can go through the PM’s random assortment of claims, but most of theme will be moot since neither Rabbit nor any othet sensible people maintain such views anyway. The comparison to Prisonplanet …
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Another posting you ignored at the time. Look at the date, here you are two months later still struggling, actually raisning things that were dealt with months ago. Maybe you have a short memory, or non at all? One engineering aspect of the collapse I haven’t seen addressed is the obvious tipping of the upper stories of at least one tower at the initial failure. If the building was ‘pancaking’, even if you somehow believe it progressed at free fall speeds, the resistance of the lower floors would have imparted a lateral component of force to cause the upper section to …
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more...................LOOK AT THE DATE! “I have to assume now, that you must also believe the first attempt to topple the Twin Towers in 1993 was carried out by, or with the knowledge, consent and/or help of the U.S. Government. Do you have any information or speculation on THAT event?” Does the NY Times count? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtcbomb.html Natalie, I’m going to assume that you’re genuine. You have a lot to learn about the way the US government operates. Who Bombed the U.S. World Trade Center? — 1993 Growing Evidence Points to Role of FBI Operative http://takingaim.info/articles/wtc93.html Mossad Link to First WTC Bombing Raises …
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How exactly does Natty claim Rodriguez is a hoax? Let us have a look at what we looked at once before. An introduction to William Rodriguez, Natalie. --------------------------------------------- WORLD TRADE CENTER RESCUE HERO SUES BUSH AND OTHERS UNDER RICO STATUTE, ALLEGES WILLFUL COMPLICITY IN ATTACKS THAT KILLED 3,000. By Margaret Atheling Rowe PHILADELPHIA, PA, OCTOBER 22, 2004 On September 11, 2001, William Rodriguez, a maintenance worker at the World Trade Center in Manhattan, single-handedly rescued fifteen people. The only employee with the master key to the North Tower staircases, he led firefighters up the stairs, unlocking doors as he went, aiding …
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Attorney Berg acknowledges that Rodriguez’s action will shock and offend many Americans. But he urges critics to read the detailed complaint, posted on the internet at HYPERLINK “http://www.911forthetruth.com” www.911forthetruth.com, before forming conclusions. “The ‘Official Story’ of what actually took place on 9-11 is a lie,” Berg flatly maintains. “We do not pretend to have put together a full and definitive account of how, and by whom, the attacks were carried out. But information reported in mainstream media, and viewed in the light of common sense and the laws of physics, demonstrate that the ‘Official Story,’ examined closely, is not credible. The …
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The truth is that there is no definitive evidence that there were any Arabs on those planes, and even less proof concerning the supposed identities of the alleged hijackers.” Berg notes too that a poll taken by the respected Zogby organization in August 2004 disclosed that half the population of New York, including such unlikely “conspiracy theorists” as those who identify themselves as “very conservative” and as Evangelical Christians, believe the federal government had foreknowledge of the attacks, and knowingly failed to prevent them. Asked why he decided to bring this controversial lawsuit, Rodriguez explains that, having survived the World Trade …
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Knowing as we do that Natty ignores so much of the relevant stuff Rabbit posts, this doesn't mean she doesn't ignore others' too. John again, who was of course ignored. hear a lot of silence on all that 9-11 evidence I posted yesterday. WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW CAPTAIN KARIN DESHORE INTERVIEW DATE NOVEMBER 7 2001 First collapse: “THERE WAS NO AIR. WHATEVER THIS EXPLOSION WAS SIMPLY SUCKED ALL THE OXYGEN OUT OF THE AIR. YOU COULDNT BREATHE AND THE FEELING OF SUFFOCATION, I CANT EXPLAIN NO FURTHER ON THAT.” Second collapse: “SOMEWHERE AROUND THE MIDDLE OF THE WORLD …
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Whit posted the following: Natalie, This site might be useful… and it gives a reference list of a number of other sites at the end of the article. (copy and paste) http://bbs.taishan.com/viewtopic.php?t=608&sid=68d6d68f4 4d83fcaf3c06e6357e1766d8 For info on Prof Astaneh-Asl’s simulation try: http://thewebfairy.com/nerdcities/WTC/astaneh-wtc.htm I was disappointed myself thinking simulation meant animation (its not animated). You can always do a search for Professor Astaneh-Asl and WTC, To which the Batty Nat said: Thanks, whit, I was especially impressed by the link labeled: “Why are we not allowed to question the Holocaust” You might try using tinyurl to cut down on the lengths of …
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The following is reposted to show how balanced rabbit is. The is the only useful or intelligent thing Natalie has contribiuted, but everyone like it. Hooray for Natalie.............. Go to tinyurl.com, David, to shorten those links. I think the problem arises when the link is longer than the width of the entry box. It occurs to me that the Iraqis, even after all they’ve been through, are more positive about their future than are liberals in America, Europe, and Canada. http://tinyurl.com/8a9ap Hooray for Natty the batty Vampiress. What would happen if Tinyurl stopped working altogether? Would all our Tinyurl links …
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Natty tried this: “Why was metallic debris found 8 miles from the crash site of the plane that went down in Penn Secondary Debris Field)? They said it went straight down and left a small hole in the ground,” wondered Haupt. “If they found metallic debris from the plane 8 miles away it was either shot down or a bomb exploded in the plane.” Again, from Popular Mechanics. I assume this isn’t one of the strawman arguments you were referring to, which makes my previous point that much of what PM addressed indeed was current conspiracy theory: Roving Engine CLAIM: One …
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Rabbit replied: Natalie once again shoots her as yet earthbound plane with another hole. (Rabbit does not like to think of Natalie shooting her feet off) It should be noted that the debris of flight 93 is a very small piece if evidence and it is best seen in light of a lot of other evidence, most of which natalie is stedfastly refusing to acknowledge. Now since you wish to look at the facts of Debris from flight 93, Rabbit will be pleased to oblige. The PM article has been thoroughly dealt with above. It was also noted that another tactic …
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This is your guy Natalie, even your own witnesses working against your theory. In a morning briefing, state Police Major Lyle Szupinka confirmed that debris from the plane had turned up in relatively far-flung sites, including the residential area of Indian Lake. Investigators appealed to any residents who had come across such debris, in the surrounding countryside or even in their yards, to contact them, emphasizing that even the smallest remnants could prove to be important clues.” http://post-gazette.com/headlines/20010913somersetp3.asp ----------------------------------- Szupinka said searchers found one of the large engines from the aircraft “at a considerable distance from the crash site.” “It appears …
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Anyway, it is established that debris was found at least 8 miles from the crsh site of flight 93. No? OK Some more. It’s important to recall that every description of the main crash site is that the airplane was OBLITERATED. Very small debris was spread over a couple hundred yards. This is exactly what you’d expect to see when an Airliner impacts nearly vertically as Flight 93 did. Nothing survived this impact… yet a 1000lb fan was found elsewhere. It fell off before impact, just like Flight 587’s engine that was found basically intact did. John Fleegle, an Indian Lake …
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Natalie, the Rabbit is a liitle bored and so has decided to crush your last post like a Grape. Theory 1 - It blew there (The NTSB/FBI Story). Comment: Wind speed that day was 9 knots (or 10.4 MPH). Video from that morning shows a very light breeze. The NTSB theory is that a lot of lightweight paper-like material survived the crash fireball and escaped the 35 foot deep, wet mud crash site and floated at 10 mph 2 - 8 miles over more wet, muddy fields. And how did clothing, books and large engine parts blow there again? And …
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The following gives an idea of the inderlying, snide innuendos which are the Bat's stock in trade, and the Rabbit's pleasant and easy going nature.
Rabbit, I’ve got somewhat of a concession and somewhat of an apology to make to you. I don’t have time right now, but will continue ASAP. I can do the marketing thing too, see? ;-) Posted by Natalie on Oct 17, 2005 at 12:10 PM The suspense is making me crazy. OK. Crazier. Posted by David in Canada on Oct 17, 2005 at 6:39 PM That’s not a marketing thing Natalie, why always so cynical. It …
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Now sad as it is, Rabbit must say that even on the one time The Natty did a good thing (See above), she was yet doing a bad thing. The Tiny url to which she lately linked was noted by Dave and Rabbit as follows. pertinant it is because it is the source of Rabbit's occassioanl refernce to her propensity for using human shields for her own protection. Quoting Natalie : “ It occurs to me that the Iraqis, even after all they’ve been through, are more positive about their future than are liberals in America, Europe, and Canada. “ http://tinyurl.com/8a9ap …
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We've been around the Blackberry Bush many times with Natty, and this is as relevant now as then. Rabbit is a man first an Australian second. I will not follow a corrupt and evil cause even if is has my country’s name on it. Natalie is not a good person to those who are wondering how she can support the things she does. We know already that she is an apologist for using Depleted Uranium, ignoring the risks to US troops and she is absolutely un-interested in the effects on the civilian population. Do not mistake her as being merely mis-informed, …
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R%abbit is merely ignoring the Natty actually, your psots have ceased to be relevant and after several months of your failing to make even astart on intelligent debate, I'm sick of you. Nobody else gives a shit either, you are irrellevant and just won't face up to it. Never has the Rabbit said this to anyone, but here to you, but I will not even waste my time reading your posts Natty, you ceased to be releavnt a long time ago. too late to dribble oin about issues long dead, you ran away after the last post above, so waht good …
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I guess you want more of your humiliation repeated then, Moonbat. A news site prints the news, and Natty, the Prison Planet, has been dealt with above, yopur ignorance is illustratrated above, you didn't even know the difference betweenAlan Jonesd and Prison Planet, it is above. You are just spouting bull off the top of your puny mind, and have proven two months ago that you8 have never even logged on to Prison Planet, or rense. You are espousing the same dimwit opinions about those sites, which PROVE you could never once have even logged onto either site, and you expect …
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Yes that isn't nice. Nor are you.! More reposts, to show what you ran way from and are here trying to re-invent. This guy has met you before Natalie.
Time and time again, when I come across close-minded Bush supporters, I witness the effects of an unexplainable phenomenon: a highly dangerous variation of HIV – a condition I call the Hypocrisy & Illogic Virus. Strangely, the most severe symptoms of this condition seem to manifest themselves during any and all discussions of the events of 9/11,
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Rabbit has just been following some of your links to find that far from discrediting people, many of your stupid efforts have done no more than show how independant and intelligent are poeple like David Ray Griffin, and many others of those who have spoken out. Now Rabbit is in the position of having to recommend that readers follow Natty's links, even though she is a Lying Shill. many of her links, put some of the sources so far quoted by Rabbit, into a very good light, if one but ignores the attempt by the Vampire to spin things. You are …
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Your history Natty. O.K., Rabbit, tell me more about witnesses. But when you say I’ve ignored everything you say, I don’t think that is accurate. I’ve taken you to task on several of the points you yourself have brought up. Speed of collapse, concrete to dust, why columns wouldn’t be left standing, etc. But when I press you on something, you say things like “why are you obsessed with this small point. It’s unimportant in the whole context” (paraphrasing) I would be happy to learn about the witnesses. I would be happy to address them. I have not been ignoring the …
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Natty a sensible Rabbit who doesn't value your mind at all, and whom has already been wacking you about the court like a squash ball rather than an opponent, is not inclined to keep dancing about the Blackberry bush with you, since it is easier he is more likely to just point out that you are no longer his debating partner, but an undead soul. A mind which has no other reason to exist but as a foil for Rabbit's petty, private amusement. Again thankyou for giving so freely of your self for the sake of Rabbit's Shill, Troll and Special …
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Rabbit accidentally read Natty's last popst and can see the usual bullshit. NO context was omitted clown, you didn't post anything between the examples given, you sucked out as always when the going gets tough and claiming it is out of context is total bullshit. You had no reply, that was the pouint cow. Too late to be sorry you sucked out again. ou di and that ids history. Nothig out of context in that. FOOL Natty Rabbit was about to post a refutation of your last post, but there is nothing to refute. !!! You have made spurious claims, ad-hominem …
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Rabbit declares Natalie the Shill to be .........COMPOST!
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Oh and the detail that a few dozen words of the Nat's were excluded from this re-post, is not important. The content of those few posts is clear and obviously alluded to in the replies, and there was nothing else said which wasn't alluded to. You were a Jaywalker on the road of truth then Natty as you are now,.
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Now come on, Lume, you’re imagining what you think Rabbit was intending by his post. He said no such thing as “I challenge you to debunk the fact that this fire engineer’s complaints support Griffin’s theory.” He simply challenged me to debunk Manning. (I think) After reading his article IN CONTEXT, I realized I had no quarrel with Manning, only with the implication left by Rabbit that this particular engineer endorsed the implosion theory. Whether Rabbit intended that or not, I thought it important, given the context of the discussion and the lack of clarity by Rabbit and the article he …
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...only with the implication left by Rabbit that this particular engineer endorsed the implosion theory. It is your inference to make. As to whether it is reasonable to infer it is something that Rabbit was implying, again, Rabbit has repeatedly said that he is only interested in arguing facts and not opinions. He presented such a fact for consideration in the context of that particular exchange. That in itself is one of the outstanding contextual themes and motifs of this entire conversation. If you doubt me, reread this thread and count the times he has said it. It should be easy …
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Natalie: The structural damage from the planes and the explosive ignition of jet fuel in themselves were not enough to bring down the towers. Rather, theory has it, THE SUBSEQUENT CONTENTS FIRES ATTACKING THE QUESTIONABLY FIREPROOFED LIGHTWEIGHT TRUSSES AND LOAD-BEARING COLUMNS DIRECTLY CAUSED THE COLLAPSES in an alarmingly short time. Of course, in light of there being no real evidence thus far produced, this could remain just unexplored theory. Now, if I were corresponding with any ordinary reasonable person, I would only have to show this statement to them and they would realize immediately that saying the capitalized portion represents the …
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BTW, Lume, if you are reading this, what you said immediately after this posting above, made Rabbit fall in love with your mind. You were henceforth his friend.
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9/11 Evidence Ignored By Apathetic American Public Exercising Their Constitutional Right To Remain 'Uninformed' From the ignored recovery of the black boxes at Ground Zero, the eye-witness testimony about basement explosions in the WTC and the scientific evidence of a controlled demolition, the American people have demonstrated over and over again they "just don't care." By Greg Szymanski 12-13-5 Four years after 9/11, numerous people have come forward with damaging evidence but the government has never even blinked an eye. Worse yet, the state sponsored media and the American people have turned a blind eye and a deaf ear, a …
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"They confronted me and told me to not to say anything," recalls Bellone, referring to one of three reddish-orange boxes with two white stripes he saw in the back of DeMasi's ATV. "I said give me a good reason? When they couldn't, I told them I wouldn't shut up about it. "Why should I? I have nothing to hide and nothing to gain. It's the truth and Nick and I are sticking to our story as we always have." In fact, a year ago Bellone said he and DeMasi were not the only 911 rescue workers to see the black boxes, …
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And it will be interesting to see whether the next piece of 9/11 cake will be again ignored by the American people. For example, this Friday on the Power Hour radio show, Dave von Kleist and Joyce Riley will interview former Pentagon insider working there on 9/11 who will present damaging evidence that the military brass lied about what type of aircraft actually struck the Pentagon. Although Flowers was unavailable for comment, he is going to tell Riley and von Kleist on Friday that he was one of "many who were given prepared written statements to say that a commercial airliner …
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The horrors of Zionists and Jewish/Christian fundamentalist supremacists know few bounds. They are the very fascist thugs and felons who are de-constucting and destroying the American way of life. They are the book-burners, the camp guards and staff, and the executioners-in-waiting. We do NOT agree with George Bush that the American Constitution is "Just a goddamned piece of paper" and we will fight to preserve that hallowed and timeless document and our Bill Of Rights without cessation. If you have not read the disclaimer at rense.com, please do. And keep in mind 'journalism' is traditionally supposed to report and present ALL …
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Natalie you are the most dishonest person. Rabbit has never engaged in holocaust denial. You are proving how low you are, what a complete fraud, a liar and a shill. You are the revisionist. You are the one drawing conclusions about entire sites based on your interpretations of the headings of artciles on those sites. You are a fraud. Doesn't it seem the teensiest bit logical Natty dear that anyone who realises the truth, or at least realises the government is lying, is going to be anti Bush and anti war. especially since the war was ostensibly started on the back …
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Anyway, neither he nor you matter. the truth is being spread daily, and it is growing exponentially. It is logical really. Rabbit has "converted" a Truck driver who has never had any info before but knew somethings were wrong himslef. It is amazing how smart real people are, Natty and Jay. You guys are just lagging behind. Flat earth society that's you. We don't need you, neither the truth nor the race. If you are still clinging onto your delusions this late in the game, then you are not really meant to come with us. your day is coming to an …
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Oh and the debunking site you've linked too is crap, it is obviously not catering to a very sohisticated audience. Ias far as reaoned argument goes, it is very thin on the ground, it debunks in a few sentences somethings which have been effectively dealt with by some very detailed and well referenced reports. Rabbit is reminded of the adage that merely because you say it is doesn't make it so. They have done the same as all the government debunking sites, and made superficial references, homed in on a few isolated facts and a made some glib remark about see …
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Like David said, you deceitful creature, questioning is not believing. Rabbit has read enough to know there are questions not over the fact that Many Jews were murdered, but there are questions about who let them be murdered, when they could mostly if not all have been saved. It is incredible how little is recognised of the Bolshevik murders and the Millions more Christians who were murdered by Jews, on the basis of a ZIONIST policy. That is not revising the holocaust except to add the rest of the story which has been conveniently edited out by a Zionist controlled press. …
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One of the first pinciples of writing is that the title should have something to do with the subject. Did this title belong on a different article?
One of the first principles of commentary about writing is that it should have something to do with the subject of the writing. Your point Scorpy? If Scorpy can articulate this more clearly,..........no clues..........Rabbit will joyfully start posting his favorite sources which should help anybody join the dots. Jay, before you jump in here comitting yourself to another untenable position, take a moment to check the lay of the land. Scorpy, -------who is a …Posted to Babes in BushWorld
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Keep Whistling Scorpy. With your eyes shut tight you can convince yourself that we must be bumping into things in the dark too. You'll never know we can see just fine, it's you pea brain. Just remember this is Rabbit and the other Liberals' site, you are Our Troll, and you don't call any shots around here. You are not someone who has any credibility or respect, so as Rabbit has pointed out before anything bad you say about Rabbit will be taken as proof positive that he is a Good Rabbit. Ther GAO reports have been in various media and …
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Here is some more reports about Fraud in US elections, what about barring international observers? That doesn't worry the Scorpy. Why do we need Paper trails, secure voting and international observers, the fact that it is Republicans controlling the machines is good enough to "guarantee" fair and honest results. Sure Scorpy. 2000 Diebold Memo - smoking gun 2004 Election, irregularities GAO report dams 2004 election The beastmen pirates stole the white house, they are raping your country and buggering up the world for everyone, and you think it's all good. They are shitting in your mouth and you …
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20 Facts about voting in the USA
1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S. 2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry. 3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers. 4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." 5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became …
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There is very little to be seen in the Chinese system as far as repression of freedom which probably doesn't actually appeal to our governments. US and OZ alike they probably see the Chinese as being leaders in the field of Population control and "homeland security".
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Exactly. The Scorp has spoken and on this particular issue the Rabbit and the Scorp, stand shoulder to shoulder................................Hear the gasps..............If not for precisiely the same reasons, we are both of the opinion taht China is a lot better than Americans at least like to make out. The ridiculous and ill informed opinions of Jay Cline, are ridiculous, because China is for all its spots in great shape thankyou. They are going forward. America is not going forward. Rabbit knows Jay Cline and maybe Scorpy will disagree that the USA is not improving it's economy, or it's homeland security or its …
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Rabbit can see that Anarcho-Sozi has pointed out to you also the obvious that China owns your ass Jay, so just bow and be polite. It is VERY relevant too that China has not been invading everybody and threatening "REGIME CHANGE" as well as backing so many of the worlds worst despots. Not recently and not even in the short part of their history during which the United States of America has existed by that name. SO to sum up. You have no moral right to dictate how China should conduct its internal affairs, you have no justification in any actual …
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Anacho-Sozi said: Let’s take a look at all of the military/covert ops engagements Amerika has been involved in since WWII in the name of stopping communism or any form of leftism: Korea 1950-1953 Guatemala 1954 Vietnam 1958-1975 Cuba 1961 Indonesia 1965 Grenada 1983 Nicaragua-1980s Italy- throughout the 1940s Chile 1971 Venezuela 2002 Haiti 2004 ----------------------------------------------------------------------. Please show us a list of the wars China has been in, during which they were trying to help spread communism.
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Yes, The fact that so many of us from such radically diferrent backgrounds Rabbit and Scorpy is Radically diferrent HAVe such similar views on this matter is not really so suprising, China is a big country and it stands to reason a few of us will know them, even Americans are capable of understanding other cultures when they actually meet them without a gun in their own hands.
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Jay as always avoiding specifics and talking around in general metaphorical circles. Jay, you are just trolling and convincing nobody, why can't you see that you need to occassionally back up your assertions with something other than bombast.?
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So, have the Chinese authorities freed that one guy in Taishi? You know, the one who, in strict accordance with Chinese law, was attempting to get an elected village leader recalled because of allegations of corruption?
So Jay have they decided to recognise international human rights in the US concentration camps, and torture camps around the world? Theer are of course plenty of activists within America who are imprisoned, Rabbit feels it is the duty of Americans to bring these to the attention of Jay Decline. Rabbit is more concerned about a nation which has as a president a man who …Posted to See No Evil
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Oh and Jay, whether or not China has human rights abuses is not the point sunshine. It is whether or not the USA is in any position to point the finger. You are not actually doing anything for your cause by pointing out that China is emerging from a form of repression which is being adopted by the USA instead. The Chinese government is a repressive and paranoid institution, but it is nonetheless set imovably on a course of increasing freedom and democracy. The very act of developing the country makes this inevitable. The thing is the Chinese have a history …
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As it happens WOLF was sreeching for the blood of those desperate looters and Rapists against, all argument for reason and perspective.
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WOLF Let’s try a thought experiment (i love thought experiments!). You are a thought experiment ...................and a failed one at that..........
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Rabbit is in a WOLF wacking mood ........... this will be his last entry for now, but shall return to this thread to add more useful input later. The Major says: wolf, ..............obsessed with your own projective fantasies of my sexual inclinations Rabbit mentions that Wolf has been known to employ such 'imagery' as this before, he has left much of his religion behind but retained his particlular kinks it seems.
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Lacan sounds right to Rabbit. That too is how Rabbit see's the process of people believing things contrary to evidence or even their own beliefs of yesterday. They have a need for something which is supplied on a give and take basis by the "machine". The feeling that everything makes sense and all is known, the black hats are this and we are the white hats, and that can answer all questions, if there are any, which there are not. Questions are just conspiracy theories. The feeling is provided by faith. The ideas, are like pills, take this one and say …
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By the way, some of us did the math at the time of the most extreme claims of violence and found the rate to be less than the same crimes among that many people on a daily basis.
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Geebee, Rabbit does not detect a reasonable tone behind your words, indeed you sound somewhat full of preconceptions.. You wouldn't be a "poor rural Southern white" by any chance?
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Geebee....Rabbit shall be more specific for you then. Nigger was and is a racist term, a form of bigotry. That doesn;t stop one using the words and it shouldn't. What is supposed to mean is we don't call each other such things in a disparaging way, unless we mean to insult someone. Redneck, Hillbilly and A*sehole are not necessarily Racist terms. They, like White trash for that matter, are not specific to any race, but intended to label people, for whom bigotry is a defining part of their character. It is not bigoted to call a bigot a bigot or to …
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That's right White Trash has been defined as including not only Black people sometimes but also Bush, including Babs. This is the definition Rabbit directed you to, Redneck. 2. A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
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Oz uses that pronunciation and English is thus closer to my mother tongue than that Pidgin you call American.
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Just because Rabbit is calling you a white person with a provincial, conservative, and bigoted attitude, it is based only on a reading of the attitudes inherant in your writings. As a non bigoted person, as far as race, Rabbit can actually see other entirely prosaic explanations for failings you consider to somehow be inherant within a race of people. The socio-economic factors especially, combined with other social historical ones, are more than enough to explain the disparity in certain crimes, their detection even more so, and to the economic situations some people find themselves in. There is a whole world …
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Geebee If Rabbit said he has seen it, then you need but ask and he will produce something, but until he has had a chance to reply to an initial query, best not to go making assumptions. This is a start, where a definition of White Trash is alluded to which can include Dubya, it is not the article Rabbit has in mind which is an essay on the subject, but it will be forthcoming. Everybody understands that it is no longer acceptable to be rude to racial or ethnic minorities; see how Bush's conservative Republicans go out of their way …
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Maybe Rabbit should make one thing clear, he is aware that Redneck is offensive slang. It did not seem necessary to actually label it as an insult. It seemed self evident to Rabbit and since he didn't say stupid redneck, he gave you the benefit of the doubt in this regard, my mistake. Rabbit shall try to clearly label his remarks if he percieves any misunderstanding hereover. The definition of number two, which is a choice, is the one Rbbit originally alerted you to, and the others are not in this instance approriate, and in fact Rabbit would not use the …
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Rabbit also now feels obliged to mention he cannot generally find MUCH of consequence with which to disagree with GeeBee's position. ..............................He reasons well and the matters we are disagreeing on are really only opinions and largely semantic. Rabbit was a Ratbag..................... GeeBee is not a Big Redneck..................... The thing which Rabbit would say about the Racial stuff from Katrina, and much of it can be traced back to an earlier thread on ITT which was actual at the time of the disaster, and when the reports of Looting and Violence were at their peak, is this. The impression we …
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Rabbit has nort really got any substantial issues with any opinions on this thread, and as a courtesy only is letting people know this.. Of course he shall look back in case anybody felt a need to reply directly to anything posted by him, but overall, Rabbit feels he has wacked someone, mostly for fun and has not even made any specific points worth mentioning, so cheerio, and Cheers, GeeBee, sorry, you don't actually seem too bad at this point, Rabbit was a bit hasty and doesn't detect a real rascist so much as a slightly slanted viewpoint, not much different …
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Jay Cline is asked once more to stop the Blockquotes, if it persists, complaints will be made, it is irritating, and sincen Jay contributes very little of value to these threads it is to be hoped he could show a bit more dignity than his "pissing contest" games. The blockquotes are annoying, go and find a site which uses smilies, if that is so important to you Jay.
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He is a flippant, empty headed little prick and prolific as hell when pontificating. If it isn't obvious Jay loves himself tell us what is? Jay you are a poser, you have as usual nothing but what you imagine to be clever statements. They are stock slogans mostly, and any usefullness they may afford you in some forums, is lost here. You have never given a reference for anything, your opinions are universally disrespected due mainly to your ABSOLUTE inability to express then coherantly in connection with reality. You have nothing but words, unconvincing even on their face. You are so …
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Oh and since Jay felt the need to "up the ante" so to speak when he realised that others had started using HTML, let Rabbit make it perfectly clear how the magicians tricks can be seen through, the easy way. Just to take the wind out of any more posers' sails. Ask your mouse to go up to view, and when the pointer is there, click the right button, and then select source. Left click source, and a page will open , which looks incredibly boring, but it is if you look closely the nuts and bolts of the page. It …
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Sorry meant the left button on mouse, both times.
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Don't ask Jay for such mundane things as sources please. The unwritten rule is that if Jay says it then it comes from God, or at least from his number one boy Bush. Therefore it just IS. Darn your impertinance, Major. You will be ignored for your presumption and see if you are not.
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Very well Jay if you persist in being an asshole just because you can be, that is fine with Rabbit. ITT has not endorsed Blockquotes at all by posting their own ver infrequent messages, they are the exception and nothing they choose to do here is an example for Jay, we can all be little smart arses if we wish, it's just that you seem to be the only one who has so little else going for him that you need to piss higher. Rabbit has not done anything further at this point than point out that they are unneccesary and …
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If anyone ever feels sorry for someone who is on the recieving end of his stick, please to bear in mind, Rabbit was a much bullied and picked on kid once. Rabbit is not a Bully. Rabbit is more like a Pest Controller.
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Rabbit invites others’ comment on the blockquotes issue, he will drop it if others say so, but is of the opinion that they are stupid.
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In fact they are used by sleaze bags mostly who just skim over things to keep the blinkers on, and the4y can of course help to make Jay's posts easily identifiable at a glance, thus saving valuable time reading his self centred preaching.
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Rabbit agrees Grey Area, in principle the Blockquotes are not an important issue. The point was only ever that JAY IS A DITTOHEAD POSER. The blockquotes are as you admit an irritation and this seemed so obvious as to go without saying, so Rabbit did what Rabbit does, and wacked the clown, down. Anyway the Rabbit does not really give a Sh*t, and has admitted it, on various threads which referred to this fact. Rabbit can piss higher =, and others can too, Jay can you do a wanking smiley and would you if you could, you? It was never intended …
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Who guys are barking and up what trees dear child?
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Rabbit has landed. Am reading still and will be doing so again slowly as well as thinking before saying anything. This may serve as a warning to any Morons who may or may not be lurking (woof woof), not to be posting anything too stupid, lest ye be given the choice of eating them or the stick.
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Chuckville and Farbie, Rabbit salutes your posts, you have bothe said all Rabbit would and better about the "Centrist Corporate-Defense Party". That is a very good name for it. It is what has become of all our intended or de-facto 2-party systems. The left is trying to appeal to the conservatives, or more caccurately the conservatives are the face of whatever organised left labelled rersistance there is, or isn't. We all (USA, Britain and OZ) seem to have the most insane fascist leaders all of whom would seem to be such F*cking A*seholes that anybody should be able to beat them, …
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WTH and Rabbit agree once again on issues where the facts are not in dispute. The Dems have not offerred an alternative in concept or in the details even down to social security which should be considered their turf. Wolf even gets no argument from Rabbit, and certainly not CD embrey. It is rather telling guys that even the conservatives are "COMPLETELY" on target about what is wrong with the DEMS. Now if only they could all as clearly see the NEO-CONS for what they are.
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"what seperates those who question the media from those who don’t?" Maybe that those who question the media have no representation?
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Not wishing to take the thread off topic, Rabbit is reluctant to say this but here goes.. Cutting and Running in Iraq, is the right thing to do if the majority of Iraqis want this and I think they do. we should never have been there in the first place and we are not fixing anything stumbling around like a bull in a China shop. The mess is bad and it is getting worse. It will not get better while the troops of an invading army are everywhere. Most importantly is that you are STEALING their oil and they know it. …
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Wolf you are in need of help as a parent it would seem. You are doing what so many failed parents do. "As a parent, I often use fear to “keep the sheep” in line. Look both ways when you cross, don’t do drugs, etc etc" As a parent, Rabbit uses education and reason to help his kids grow up to be good and sensible people. It seems to work well. "I expect that hundreds of millions of people in Eastern Europe might have had their suspicions. . ." Actually no, your suspicians would be wrong, Rabbit lived in Europe and …
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"the American public still wants to see a proud and strong America" Too bad they are seeing a collapsing and weak America, or at least they will when they open their eyes. http://tinyurl.com/cykxx http://tinyurl.com/dqvp2 http://tinyurl.com/9kc2m http://tinyurl.com/ey8fr Choosing either Dems or Reps will be re-arranging the deckchairs on the titanic. Still that sounds like an appropriate way for the greatest failure in the history of earths empires to go out. Fiddle while Rome burns, it's been done before. It seems likely that it is this blindness and hubris which brings down empires, very likely.
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It looks like Rabbit has correctly identified himself as an Anarcho-socialist. Quite an interesting little site, thanks Monk. Rabbit has long hated the definitions of Left versus Right too and this is a solution. Now how about we divide the world into quarters and each quadrant can have theirs? Not good, we will end up with all these clowns like Jay who think they are something they are not. Pulling our quadrant into the evil right top one by virtue of their delusions.
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This one got lost, here it is again. Rabbit has done the thing for the Monk. Couple of questions Rabbit would have preferred a "not sure". Rabbit has not yet made up his mind about same sex couples and adoption. Almost 50/50, and I have swayed a bit back and forth on the issue over the last couple of years. Rabbit is sitting just to the right of Ghandi. Economic Left/Right: -3.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.28 After having seen the graphs at the bottom, Rabbit would expect dittoheads to be closest to the centre. They would be found further to the right …
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Mrraven There is some truth to what you say. The model has it's limitations, but the Old Left vs Right thinking runs into similar problems. What I find interesting is the double axis comparison. Maybe the questions need a bit of refinement, but the method seems to make sense.
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WTH and Rabbit as often too much common ground. This would have helped a lot. "A better measure would be a 1 to 10 sliding scale for each question similar to the final outcome graph." Nevertheless, WTH the fact that the fact of our positions on the graph, may be more accurate than it seems. Rabbit recognises the intrinsic rightness about his own scores, even though they are more 'right' and authoritarian than what would be expected. The same may be true of many of the apparently odd reseults. At the same time he believes yours and probably Jay Clines are …
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Jay is more than middle of the road, he's a bit left of and less than authoritarian. Monk we have discussed 'bombing' the right wing sites with logic before, it is a lost cause. Has the Monk seen the sort of dicussion that goes on these sites? The main way of proving a fact is to say "everybody knows that" and "If you had any clue you would know that...." There is no way that a reasoned logical approach would ever gain anything by ridicule and shouting down on a right wing site. Rabbit has looked at some of them, and …
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Makes sense to Rabbit.
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Rabbit always was the most straight one at hippy things, even though he is a happy hippy hoppy Rabbit.
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From what Rabbit has intuited and learned directly, via peoples comments and what he, Rabbit, knows of people. The fact is you may notice the similarity between WTH and Rabbit. Rabbit has been pointing this fact out for some time as it happens. WTH and Rabbit almost always agree on matters where the FACTS are indisputed. Obviously there have been many opportunities for Rabbit to observe others of this number and he longs after at least as many others as we have now............................Rabbit MOSTLY wants his beloved.....DARK and Deadly Natalie, Scorpy would be second choice, but will he deign to lower …
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This last post of Rabbits, apart from showing off his new Rabbit skills, is based upon the presumption that political and religious beliefs change, people do not.
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No, Beliefs are things which come and go, today I'm a christian, tomorrow I'm a Muslim, or Budhist. Once i was a Liberal now I vote Labour. I am still I. Changing one's beliefs is changing one's beliefs. There are beliefs which when once changed also change the believer, but mostly Rabbit thinks it is a path of discovery about who we are and only when we have found out that will we be able to ascertain what beliefs we are left with. We are who we always were.......now we know it......
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WTH Rabbit was only using the politics and relifgions as examples. The only point Rabbit was making, which you got obviously, was that People don't change just because they change their ideas. The Churchill quote is an excellent example. Actually Rabbit has voted for Labour, (Bob Hawke), Democrats, Greens, National Marijuana Party, One Nation (helped them in the election), and even refused to vote and been fined for it. (We are compulsory, which is not a bad idea I feel, these days) Rabbit has also written his feelings in flowery prose all over the ballot papers on occasion. rabbit was born …
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PC is not silly, the proof is in the fact that it conforms to prediction. It may not be giving all the information you would expect, but as said that is because you think yourself much more different to us than you are. The same for Jay. Since we have certian information which you don't, we are more likely to be in tune with where we actually stand in the political scheme of things. The nuance and individualism, as well as the co-herance of the arguments presented by most of us show an assurance of what we know and the ability …
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The FACT of the test giving valid results for comparison, is not an opinion, so don't go there. Rabbit has just defined a scientific principle, which has to do with testing and without which all science would be worthless.
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Here is a simple story. Jay thinks he is a reasonable conservative democratic individual. We say he is supporting a fascist undemocratic viewpoint, by supporting ideas of certain leaders. Jay says no these leaders are really supporters of my reasonable views. This test shows Jay to be a reasonable conservative democratic individual. The test also shows that the leaders he supports are fascist and undemocratic. There is no way Jay would actually believe he supports somebody as far into the UGLY zone indicated by the graph. If you doubt it is ugly go back and try to reproduce those results on …
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Oh and by the way, you are often ascribing ideas to Rabbit, probably his score suroprises you too. Rabbit is exactly where he would expect to be, you have just understood very little about Rabbit yet. The idea of not wanting big government to rule our lives is not especially conservative, it is common to most people, and is only ever a consequence of political parties, who as we've established are not any more than power machines.
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It is a VALID experiment. Actually the more Rabboit looks at it the more convinced he has become that even his first reservations may have been unjustified. First reaction, during the actual answering stage, was that I sought a more nuanced answer from time to time. Upon second thoughts, I realised then and more so now, it would then introduce a differnt and much more difficult to calculate scale, I think it might end up introducing logarithms into the thing then and that gets weird. Maybe not but Rabbit always shies away from too precise mathematical thinking. There will always be …
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Please excuse Rabbit's confusion over PC. Rabbit was still talking about the Political Compass, thought that was the PC ref. As WTH should know about Rabbit by now, he too loathes Political Correctness. Only people unsure of their own feelings get caught up in PC silliness. So PC is SILLY, agreed. WTH You and Rabbit could be twins, except Rabbit would be the twin who prefers abit of Happy Baccy to Tobacco. Smoked Tobacco for a couple of years, and found it to be the most physically damaging thing and the most addictive crap ever tried. Rabbit has always been able …
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Regarding compulsory voting. Yes Oz and i think Britain too has compulsory voting. Whilst growing up Rabbit was against this. Having travelled widely and knowing what i now do about other countries politics, I have changed my opinion about it. True and it was always Rabbit's contention, that many people who have not even considered who or why they are voting end up having an effect on the result. Rabbit hears some of the things said by 'ordinary people' and shudders to think that they have the same amount of say in who will be the government as Rabbit. Yet it …
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The test is not liberal. Rabbit found the questions about economics for example to be too conservative in answer choice. The slant was conservative. If we are right, and Bush is a liar, a facsist etc, then you would not be anywhere near supporting him, that is what must be considered. the Graph gives a result which is entirely understandable to us, that is not meaning that it is a liberal test. It suggests to Rabbit only that you and Jay are not really Fascists, or inhumane greedy pigs. Yet the issues you regularly support are policies of inhumanity, fascism and …
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Now Rabbit see's you are all answering 'strongly' as if that is helping. NO NO NO All you are doing is making the test more crude. You are trying to make things more clear cut, simple and that is not what it is all about. If you keep going in this direction the logical result will be a Left/Right linear scale again. People are searching for ways to make their scores fit into their preconceptions about where they stood in relation to each other and the world. It is very clear to Rabbit that the original scores are immensely telling. Some …
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Now the following is not to annoy WTH, or Jay, but if we are to use our new-found respect for one another to advantage, we are going to have to deal with certain things as they arise. Some things we can easily hold different views on, but FACTS, some of them at least are important. Rabbit will openly discuss and values alternative views about anything, but when false facts are taken for granted, the whole point of dicussion goes out the window. If WINSTON CHURCHILL was not exactly the storybook version, if the simple version about him was not only …
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Sorry but meant to mean Rabbit is an Aussie, not the big fat man who was a Pommie as far as Rabbit knows.
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Rabbit wishes not to have said anything about being Proud and humble it comes out all wrong. Scratch scratch...........it won't come off. Happy Hopper Humble is Proud to still be happy humble and hopping. ................................................................^^...............................................
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As for "put down lines" try George Galloway, he could eat Churchill for breakfast. Are we ignoring any history contrary to our small ideas like good little revisionists then? Half the story is still only half the story. If you ignore enough other history you could claim Hitler was just a pretty lousy painter who later rose to prominance in German politics. Churchill is not so pretty when you learn the truth, but who wants truth when you have a comfortable fantasy eh guys?
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There is always the old ignore the uncomforable thing game. After a while you then start claiming we cannot prove anything and there is no need to waste time looking at anything which is given because nothing can be known and yet you seem so sure of what you know? You will duck and dive, twist and turn to avoid just READING THE DAMNED article, and facing up to it's claims, challenge their validity if you can, or see with open eyes that you are worshipping another flawed man. Flaws are OK, but when those flaws make a mockery of all …
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No the revised scores are where one would be if one was someone else!
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No the revised scores are where you would be if you were someone else. The original answers were the most pure. Now for non-science minded people this may need to be explained, but to any scientific mind the answer is obvious. You now know the test, the results and anything you do from here on to alter your original result is of absolutely NO use to the experiment. You are now ‘contaminated’, no longer a viable test subject.....be gone. The experiment had a given set of criteria. The questions are applied to random subjects who have no preparation or knowledge of …
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BTW Monk.....rabbit didn't mean to be UPPITY even if it sounded so, he knows you are genuine in desire to find middle ground always, it is just that here you are removing the middle ground to allow soimeone to adjust their results to better attend their pre-concieved notions about the world. The fine distinction is predictably lost on the subjects, but it is beautiful in symmetry when seen from an objective standpoint. And yes, Rabbit's view is objective, he is satisfied with all results, can see a pattern in the confusion which in all cases explains why the person is able …
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David you are being fooled by circular logic I think. Read what Rabbit said slowly. It isn't about opinions, I don't think, Rabbit could indeed and has gotten the same result the second time, he just did, and like before answered gave the best answer for me. Identical result. Rabbit is a scientist, in the loose term of the word and can assure you that the questions are questions about fundamental attitudes, as removed from political leanings. Since people can and do change their beliefs, but they don't actually change inside, once they have established those fundamnetal attitudes, which are no …
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OK of course Attitudes change, but not from one sitting of the test to the next. Go out and live a bit, learn something new, and some of your attitudes will of course change, but that is not the same as answering the test in a different way. The actual questions have to be considered in light of your criticisms which are as Rabbit pointed out generalities. An actual analysis of the test would do this, but raising the actual criteria which had to be taken into account when designing the experiment, is not an analysis it is merely a refrain …
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Rabbit was feeling too lazy to think that hard, so don't make him stamp his foot as well now it is done. ........^^........
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Yes David we all had our reservations after the test, but they are all answered in the FAQs you were the one who pointed this out the first time. The specific questions, bring them out and compare them with your generic criticisms. Rabbit does not suggest the revised results are of no use, they say much. Rabbit questioned the format, looked at it and decided it was best practice, under the circumstances. . A second and a third or fourth set of answers are going to do no more than show how the results can be altered by the subject 'deliberately …
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This is basic animal behiourology. Press a button for a reward, press another button for a electric shock, which one do you choose? Think ...............MONK..................
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Can Monk imagine George Bush or Johnny Howhard seeing their results and then re-sitting the test? Robert Mugabe? How much use would the new results be? Now our own little conservatives have had their go, and they didn't like being so close to us, they wanted to be closer to their imagined idols. Not knowing as we know that their imagined idols are complete extremists. They don't recognise the extreme of their own side, we know that, we have seen it before, of course they are actually closer to us than they thought and of course their imagined Idols are a …
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Rabbit understands this and your stance. He still cannot accept the implication that dishonesty is necessarily only changing from yes to no. The simple fact is that there are some people who would feel more strongly than another but both agree with the principle. by coming around a second time and giving adifferent answer having already seen the results of the first test, makes the "re-testing" worthless as a scientific tool. Then all the criticisms which have been attempted of the testing method, could be levelled with accuracy. The difference is as simple as the difference between subjectivity and objectivity. The …
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Rabbit didn't actually expect anybody would waste time re-testing to see how to reproduce the far right wing beasts, assuming this to be rhetorical. The tendencies would have to have been apparent enough and fresh enough in peoples minds thought Rabbit. Maybe he overestimates humans......................... The fact is that even with such deliberately slanted results, pandering to vanities as they were, no-one came close to the ones in the extreme. It all adds up. People just can't. Objective------------------------------------Subjective
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Sorry again if Rabbit seems Uppity and he knows Monk is as irritated with his hopping as Rabbit is with Monks hanging, but the sum total of the discussion pleases Rabbit, and he apologises...............^>.............for his impatience. It is mainly towards the reluctant brides that his Rabbiting was directed anyway,......... in absentia maybe?
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Jay Define real science. To Rabbit who is a real scientist, or at least was, real science is open minded and tackles experimentation with a scientific attitude. So far Rabbit analysis of the results has been real science by the definition which has served real scientists for some time now. You are a pseudo-intellectual, and not a scientists anus. You are being patently subjective in all your criticisms and yet have failed to apply any of your criticisms to the actual question and how it relates to giving an invalid result. Has Jay read the FAQs? Would it help him? Probably …
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Rabbit agreed with your view about a different scale and still would rather see a finer scale than a cruder one. Nonetheless I feel the questions are well selected and actually many are cleverly crafted to achieve the subtle separation between the various poles even including such apparently opposed opposing views which can and often are held by Leftists despite being generally viewed as right wing. Obviously the reverse and the other variations which could make every such reference to this format complex. There are two main reasons I feel confidant saying this. Firstly and this is personal you can …
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The questions WTH has identified bear discussing in light of our differing views thinks Rabbit. This is exactly what must be done if there is any doubt about the validity. Methinks it is possible to clarify much beeter and if it is as good as rabbit thinks it is worth it. It is just one experiment. It produces an impartial set of results, the results say a lot if they are accurate, so the question is how accurate. We have had all the generic criticisms of sampling and statistics so far but not enough actual analysis of the things to justify …
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First though Rabbit must clarify something with the David. Rabbit has said from the start and it is good to clarify that we agree on this, that the test gives an accurate and valid set of data, for comparison. When some, who obviously were perturbed by their results began to re-peat the test by deliberately changing the emphasis of their answers, and being so foolish as to claim they were now "happier" with their results, Rabbit pointed out that these results were worthless. For all the reasons he has since detailed. The point about dishonesty, which may or may not actually …
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Rabbit's turn to be facetious. WTH almost exclusively industrial accounts — very little attempt at anything but objective info. Then you cannot have been very suceesful. In Rabbit's experience getting a leg up in that world means telling people what they want to hear. How much more subjective can that get? Actually WTH............ Luminous Beauty may have a point back there, it didn't go up for Rabbit until he read your response, that is a very airy fairy way to define objectivity against subjectivity. Objective question: What time is it? Subjective answer: Now is the time for all good men to …
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David Rabbit has just finished reading your posts. It occurs to rabbit that you are talking about life and people in general and this is not nor ever was Rabbit's point. It was always the experiment, and it's application which Rabbit is trying to establish. YOU KNOW RABBIT DOES NOT believe people cannot change, why the hell else would Rabbit do what he does? You know he seeks CHANGE, but thgat is not what we were talking about. Rabbit is trying to discuss the validity of the experiment and you are trying to dicuss the eternal path of enlightenment. Nothing you …
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David this final one is a rebuke. Now Rabbit reads how you use Luminous Beauty's words. You did not ask those things of Luminous Beauty in context and you are not quoting them in context. within the very quote you used are the following which can be used in this context change of conviction is honest and not just an attempt to rig the results. Which was what was Rabbit's point from the start. Luminous Beauty also specifically stated that any changes on a second go are for him (OK the bald, old guy got me..), were very small and the …
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Rabbit has ben calling them questions out of habit but now wishes to correct, Statements with which we agree, or disagree, not questions. This is a critical thing about it which impressed rabbit and he forget even to mention it and fell into the silly trap of calling them questions too. The definition is important.
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To quote Luminous Beauty, who has said this more clearly than Rabbit, .........If there is any inherent imbalance in those results you would have to look at the weighting of the results for each response and at the calculating algorithm That is where any criticism must begin, not poking about with generalities about testing methods most of which are taken care of by the scientific process by which the test is constructed. Most if not all of the criticisms people have raised are adequately answered in the FAQs. Maybe not adequate for some people, but is anything enough to convince some? …
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Mrs Rabbit Economic Left/Right: -6.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00 A little North, yes, Mandela. Good guess. She is a clever economic numbery girl by the way.
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Thankyou for not Blockquoting.
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WTH IMO they will get a subjective reponse. Of course they will, we want a subjective response from the sunject, WTH. We must not have the subjects awareness of the outcomes affecting their response precisely because their respknse is unavoidably subjective. Once we have completed the test, we can stand outside and make an objective analysis, if we are able. The alternative is to remain locked within a subjective outlook, failing to recognise the significance of the overall results, for want of comprehension. As such one is merely unable to remove onseself to an objective viewpoint, it doesn't alter the test …
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WTH ............Rabbit was not being mean to WTH, as one who has seen more than enough of businessmen, entrepreneurs, and bordrooms, my comment is about the people who usually inhabit them, it was facetious but not intended to be malicious.
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Which, as I keep trying to point out to Rabbit, is a possibility with any “FACTS” coming from the internet.) WTH Rabbit has No problem with this staement, but it does not automatically follow that all information on the net is false, or that it cannot be ascertaianed. For a VERY large amount of the information on the internet it can be ascertained with CERTAINTY the truth of important things. You canot avoid attempting to do so, as you do, on the feeble excuse that nothing on the internet can be verified, because that is patently insane. The daily reality …
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Rabbit is not too sure what this word was meant to be either> antrths We shall call it lies.......... Maybe it was untruths..........yes.
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To Jay Your acknowledgement, of Rabbit's request, is very much appreciated. In fact by so doing, you have put Rabbit in the invidious position of having to apologise to you...... again...........eew.....................^>.................. Rabbit was not very polite, and this was partly a consequence of carry over distaste from previous times, and partly due to Rabbits assumption that you would ignore the request. Thank you, and Rabbit would like to announce that Jay Cline is the inspiration which brought all of us, finally crawling up from the mud of HTML ignorance. ........Hooray for Jay. Rabbit still votes decidedly against smilies and anything really …
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Well what do you know, Government Accounting Office confirms key key 2004 stolen election findings. Is this the way the way Democracy works is it? Just as well as it wasn't a democrat who stole the election by fraud, now that would be a crime.
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kmg36 These sites and the internet in generall is all there is, use it well and pass the news on.
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Here's your big example to the world Scorpy and Jay and WTH. According to CNN, the U.S. House Judiciary Committee received "more than 57,000 complaints" following Bush's alleged re-election. Many such concerns were memorialized under oath in a series of sworn statements and affidavits in public hearings and investigations conducted in Ohio by the Free Press and other election protection organizations. The non-partisan GAO report has now found that, "some of [the] concerns about electronic voting machines have been realized and have caused problems with recent elections, resulting in the loss and miscount of votes." The United States is the only …
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It is not the beliefs which need to be the same, Rabbit of all people is most open to new ideas. If your ideas are different to mine about the same thing then the dicussion is worthwhile and mutually beneficial. If however we have different ideas because we have different facts upon which to base those ideas, then the FACTS are the thing which can and must be agreed upon. If those facts can be established, then to not do so where there is disagreement is avoidance, and it is recognisably the only way in which people with your views can …
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If however it became apparent that Rabbit has a case for there being more terrorism now, then WTH would in all fairness, then be expected to re-visit his opinions, based upon this fact. You may yet have other reasons which buttress your support for the war, but you would at least no longer be able to claim that the war in Iarq reduces terrorism. You may still have the opinion for other reasons, which hopefully you will also put on the table, but if facts begin to accumalate which collectively abolish your reasons for believing the war is righteous, the a …
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Rabbit does not want to prove his beliefs. WTH Rabbit only wants to prove certain facts upon which those beliefs are based, where it seems we have differing views of the facts as outlined above. If we can agree on facts and yet have different ideas, that is fine and it is a lot more common among open minded people than you may imagine. Curious Dave and I have very different attitudes in some ways and we don't agree on several things. If you pay attention though, we do agree on facts, or when we don't we will establish them and …
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Lastly WTH when you are ready to get into the damned car, and buckle up, we have a short but awesome trip into the unknown to undertake.. List your objections to Rabbit's outlook, if you feel you have devined it and allow him to defend his position based on facts, which will be established or abandoned as the case may be. You have only to challenge Rabbit on the facts, and if he cannot give a GOOD reason for adhering to them you will recieve an acknowledgement of this if not a complete reversal of opinion. Rabbit has no fear of …
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And here you are back to safe and quite useless generalisations. All of your generalisations are of no use if you can't put them to any use to help you understand anything. There is so much information that is lost to you, and you are wasting your time around here with that attitude. You will constantly face being called ignorant, your opinions will face ridicule because they are often based on patent falsehoods, and your only answer to being proven wrong, and you have been on numerous issues, is to say nothing can be proven. Rabbit cannot hold the branch of …
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It is also likely the London bombings were done with BOMBS under the trains, not in backpacks as was claimed. It is certain that at least one of the four alleged "Bombers" is still alive and well and was not in England at the time it happened. Bush knew the WTC's were coming down before the first plane hit. He gave away his foreknowledge in an interview later, claiming to have been watching the first plane hit the buildings on TV and then the second one. It is so easy to just spout off unverified nfacts. The thing is of course …
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There might once have been a muslim fundamentalist attack on American soil and there might be another one or even a first one, one day. In the meantime there are daily bombings and shootings of innocenty Muslkims going on by US troops. You have killed At least 150, 000 innocent civilians so far and and possibly twice that number, not to mention the radiation and poisoning from Depleted Uranium, for the rest of time in Iraq. All this because Somebody killed 3000 mostly Americans. Somebody did it and soembody had to pay. Never mind if the ones who pay are not …
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You did not see the first plane hit WTH, nobody had at the point of the story on TV at the time cited. You saw this later, but at the initial time the first plane strike was not on TV, the video footage for this event came in later. The second crash was on TV, before the first was shown in video. Of course for people who understand sourcing Rbbit would now post a link to the "proof" of this, but we already know that WTH lives in a completely theoretical unprovable universe, so for WTH the mere statement of this …
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What this proves WTH is that you are of a shallow and inferior mindset, and are failing even now to comprehend the links between dots so close. As Luminous Beauty is alluding to, and as Rabbit can confirm at least from here on the "other half" of the ball we call earth, the attacks were shown on TV my small minded friend, but in the order of Second plane and much later the first plane. Bush says he saw the first plane hit the WTC, then he saw the second Plane. Those who have realised the significance of this, in combination …
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Gues what WTH you have inadveratntly stumbled across something which destroys your case about internet and proof. It is entirely possible to prove that the second plane crash was shown first on TV and the First plane crash much later. You see this then proves especially in combination with other evidence, that GWB was expecting the news. That he lied and by the way it can also be shown that the "special" press conference in which he announcd the attacks, was booked the day before the attacks. WE CAN PROVE IT WTH, We kmow it is true. It is so well …
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Rabbit pops in to say Israel is a terrorist nation. It has always been one and will probably end it's days in terror, by the same sword it has wielded without mercy from it's inception.
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......^^........ Not your average STM, Eadora, (Shill/Troll/Moron). The Jews can obviously afford better help eh?
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Rabbit has one thing to throw into the ring, right here and now. SPREAD SPECTRUM TECHNOLOGY. More soon. This is an important issue, communications after disaster. Forget the "official" solution, if there is one it won't work. So we need to think about this. Rabbit assumes that only positive and practical postings will attend this thread. The issues involved have nothing to do with who beleives what about politics. The Conservatives can either offer something useful for a change, or just stay away. Disasters, man made, natural or otherwise are always possible and chance seems to have increased that we are …
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Nobody needs to define who the Ruthless adversary might be in the above post please. We all know, but saying it will attract trolls.
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No technicians onboard then it seems.....Spread Spectrum Technology is in civialian use now, and it would be the way to go. Some car tracking sysems for example already use it. .....Rabbit hops away to look back later.....................................................^^....................................................
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Same in OZ, the country people are awake up, they are MUCH more prepared. One of the things they are prepared for is to keep mobs of City people descending upon them like Locusts When The Day Comes.
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It was incidentally Rural Australia who supported One Nation in it's meteoric rise to prominance a few years ago. Not for the Rascist cause which was falsely atrributed to Hanson, that was all MSM spin. Instead for the simple straightforward common sense approach.
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Greetings Paul. Rabbit speaks of Spread Spectrum, one time domain only of the military. http://www.sss-mag.com/ss.html Upon checking the term Ultra wide Band also seems to refer to the same thing. Since it can be set up using pretty much any standing antenna it can be installed quickly and effeciently, even after the 'event' so to speak. As Rabbit understands it, and he doesn't know much personally, the antenna repeaters stations are no big deal. Brother owns a car tracking company who installs and monitors vehicles on the east coast of Oz using SST.
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JAY CLINE please go and do some research. FASCISM ======= Corporate State. NAZISM ======= Neo-conservatism. Jay Cline why do you come into an obviously small and well informed forum with such a paltry grasp of even the most nasic comprehension of history, politics or economics? Are you a massochist?
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Jay Cline says "Until then, I will not drop my beliefs simply because you say so" Jay laddie nobody round here except maybe the Monk is under any illusion that you are likely to "drop" your beliefs, either because we say so or because FACTS around you are make it seem wise. Honestly Rabbit has long since concluded that you are a very stupid example of Dittohead and have long since dug yourself into a tight defensive position, devoid of all facts or reason, based on faith alone and a grim determination, never to change any ideas. Those things you call …
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Anarcho-sozi, please ignore Jay, he is just a very dim troll we have at ITT at the moment, maybe formally known as Thinky actually. The comparison of the article is obvious and it is delighful to see the Jay Cline can see it too. He is always so obvious in defensive mode. "....... moderates and ....... elites underestimated ........, assuming that most people would not succumb to his Manichean unreason; they didn’t think that his hatred and mendacity could be taken seriously. They were proven wrong. People were enthralled by the ........ cunning transposition of politics into carefully staged pageantry, into …
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The last Rabbit post was made before reading the last 2 Jay posts................................................................This twerp makes Rabbit want to throw up. It is the most overweaning, whining pompous little dimwit ever to pass this way. Rabbit swears it's worse than THINKY ever was. It thinks it's silly little homilies pass as some sort of worthy comment, it babbles on about things it knows nothing of, expounding generalities. Decryng the very things it has itself created and was only just in the process of arguing in favour of. It is in short an IDIOT. "The rise of Nazism was more about the search …
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This was the post that should have preceeded the last post which was not meant to be the first post but was. Jay like many such morons keeps referring to the US constitution as if it still stands as it once did. The past five years of Neo-con government has passed without his noticing anything they have done. It has completely escaped his notice. Incredible. Jay cannot possibly agree with anything Kuya says, but he thinks he does. Kuya you deserve Kudos for a very concise and insightful post. You don't need Rabbit to tell you to ignore the yapping from …
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Thank Gaia Rabbit did not have to deal with all that rubbish Jay is still posting. Did the Rabbit or did the Rabbit not tell folks this was a particularly stupid troll? Some of them are so dull they have an ANTI-SHINE, they glow on the page in every posting. Big NEON lights.................I AM A SELF RIGHTEOUS WILLFULLY IGNORANT PEST.................. The troll has an opinion about anything. Has anybody seen it produce any sort of a Factual reference, even un-sourced yet? MONK. Stop giving the damn troll a bone. It will only choke on it. You are not helping it. JAY …
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Hi David and Neruda. Rabbit sees you in the grass.
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Nope Rabbit was wrong....that was last night-time here. .......................................Rabbit looking down at the ground, between his toes............................thinks about it again.................................his friends are down there.................Rabbit looks up and sees the sun.......................................Soon that sun will leave Rabbit and go to his friends, down there.......................Rabbit looks down again..................Such a clever world..................hops away.......................^^...........................
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Kuya, these are not easy issues to find answers to in a personal sense. From the point of view of law, it should be there to safeguard our liberty above all. The right to decide with and about one's own body is FUNDAMENTAL to life. Nobody grants that right, it just is. The conundrums you mentioned at the end are there, but only if one fails to recognise the fundamental right of every individual to control their own body. It is this BIRTHRIGHT, which is what comes first. Iit comes from birth, not before birth in Rabbit's book. It is one …
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"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack …
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It too involves a history lesson, the most relevant link to the thread so far...............Thinks Rabbit. Again...... http://www.hermes-press.com/militarismindex.htm
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Moral absolutism is exactly what comprises the "EASY ANSWERS" so ironically referred to by JAY CLINE. We have discussed details which make it patently obvious there are no easy answers, but Fundamentalist Cowards would like to believe there is always an easy answer. Theirs.
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by Mike (in Tokyo) Rogers by Mike (in Tokyo) Rogers US President Harry S. Truman, with consent of his top brass, ordered the atomic bombings of Japan in order to save one million US lives. The Japanese were fascists. They were religious fanatics who worshipped the emperor as their God and were prepared to fight to the death. This was evidenced by the Kamikaze pilots and vicious fighting in Saipan and Okinawa. The annual Hiroshima and Nagasaki commemorations are exercises in blame-shifting and obfuscation; the fact is that WW II in Asia and the Pacific was a war between aggressive Japan …
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By the way. Lest anybody forget, Rabbit is an Aussie. His Grandfather fought the Japanese and Rabbit has not been brought up to love the Japanese. In truth Rabbit does not love the Japanese. As tourists they are as arrogant and almost as insensitive as Americans. They seem to Rabbit to suffer some deformity of soul as a people, around some rather gross expressions of sexuality. That is the best Rabbit can describe something which he feels is well represented by the Japanese cult films, "Weather Girl". We had a lot of diggers at war with them and our country was …
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More from Mike Rogers "Japan attacked the United States first." "If you mean that the Japanese bombed the military base of Pearl Harbor, before the US bombed the Japanese, then this is a difficult question to answer (see #1 below). If you mean that Japan committed acts of war against the United States first, then the answer is a definitive, "No!" The United States committed at least two acts of war under international law against Japan before December 7, 1941. They were: US military pilots – 40 from the Army Air Corps and 60 from the US Navy and Marine Corps …
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Only half jestfully....................If you want a gigantic mirror, look no further than POTUS, and how he got where he got...........
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The majority of the country? When its too late. Here is a new one in from Iraq. "Iraqis apprehend two Americans disguised as Arabs trying to detonate a car bomb in a residential neighborhood of western Baghdad's al-Ghazaliyah district on Tuesday. A number of Iraqis apprehended two Americans disguised in Arab dress as they tried to blow up a booby-trapped car in the middle of a residential area in western Baghdad on Tuesday. Residents of western Baghdad's al-Ghazaliyah district told Quds Press that the people had apprehended the Americans as they left their Caprice car near a residential neighborhood in al-Ghazaliyah …
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Anarcho-Sozi Rabbit was living in Danmark (Jutland) from 1987 to 1992. Travelled often across the border to Germany, but was not there for the "WALL". In fact though I was involved in an argument with a Danish friend the night before the announcement and I swear the topic was German re-unification. Rabbit argued strenuously that he expected it would be very soon and the friend said no way. The point I was also making was that it would happen in one of two ways, each meaning something totally different overall. If it was announced and then proceeded with a series of …
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Obviously Rabbit was in Danmark when the Wall came down, bare ikke i Tyskland. Your comments about USA in relation to German Democracy, as an example/partner, or not........, are similar to Rabbit's views. Both Germany and Japan are looking better on the democratic front than the USA, at the moment. The USA is more likely to drag them down if it has any say on their continued development. The bigger picture remains that they are none of them, Governments, doing things in OUR best interests. WE being the PEOPLE, the CITIZENS who pay the bills. The taxes and the BUTCHER's bill …
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Scorpy you are a FASCIST and your posts have long since become one track spleen venting bombast. Go back and read the things which have been posted to you, check the links and get off on shame as must be your game. All your real enemies have dissapeared, up your backside, where they came from in the first place, you ignorant BUSH TOADIE. They all stand behind you in ranks, waiting for you to lead the way. Lead them into the fire and brimstone like a good moron would. Bet you were the second choice of the beastmen after Bush. Sick …
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This is true Chopper, but if that is all you have to say on the subject then it must be the only post you have read. When you have found out why Rabbit calls the Scorpy a Fascist, maybe then you can make a sound judgement. The history of this thread will show that much of substance has been put up by Rabbit and others, Scorpy has done no more than rant, ignore everything sent his way and generally be everything he is called in MY last post. Actually the post describing Scorpy is probably generous.
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Another thing Chopper, who is rarely seen but this doesn't mean he is not online but silent, Scorpy has been dodging around the place and LB and Rabbit are mostly dealing with him on other threads. This one is not one of his main stomping grounds yet. Like Rabbit says, excuse the last short Namecalling for itslef, it is the followup to a lot of experience with the Scorp. It is being assumed that you either know nothing of Scorpy or you have as said not seen his ranting the past week. It has not even occurred to Rabbit that you …
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Rabbit hadn't thought of that in this context but knows of this, indeed it is an irony. Sadly conservatives do not comprehend Irony. Sometimes Rabbit thinks Conservatives could be called IRONISTS. They really are a repulsive bunch these Neo-cons. The bastards have usurped the Name LIBERAL in Oz which is another IRONY.
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Rabbit never met a conservative that comprehended irony, nope. Irony may be distantly understood by some of them, but most no. They could describe it, they can read dictionaries of course...Of course generalisations can be picked arpart on the details. But for every example of an ironically aware conservative Rabbit will find ten examples of Ironically blind conservatives. It is a generalisation, but it is nonetheless accurate as one. Actually it is "generally" accepted among English speaking countries, that Anericans are low on satire comprehension. An example of how tragic the consequences of the recent Hitchikers guide to the Galaxy, dumbed …
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Can Chopper see the Irony inherant in all the arguments being put forward to justify the US militant stance at present? When a party can be led by a man who says that freedom and democracy must be protected by reducing freedoms and democracy at home and attacking other nations, it cannot claim to be able to recognise Irony. When a court appointed and unpopular president can threaten to remove a democratically elected president in a peaceful neighboring country, for the sake of Democracy, then somebody somewhere is not aware of Irony, and it starts with the Conservatives, because Baby, he's …
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Another great article: "Americans spend $450 billion annually on defense, which is nearly as much as all of the world’s military budgets combined, yet our astronomically expensive military cannot catch a 6’5” Arab in a small corner of the world? Our awesomely powerful military can blow up the world, yet it can not subdue a few dizzy fanatics setting off crude road bombs that has spiraled into a full fledge insurgency? We have the most expensive and most the powerful military, but can it do anything? I’m thinking this while zipping through Germany on a super smooth train -- unlike our …
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Det er vel nok flot, med din Dansk. Rabbit can laese Tysk, mere eller mindre. Det med at tale forskellig sprog kommer bag om Americanerne, men det er shove at vise dem at det kan lad sig gore. Rabbit burde maske vaer Kanin, pa Dansk men det lyder underligt.. Scorpy is a RIGHT WING NUT. He may in fact be a Government shill, he has certain things in common with known SHILLS, not least his tactics. He gets the false details in too good an order and holds a couple of views which would not fit a normal dittohead even. They …
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Anarcho-socialism is what we will be left with when people with delusions have finished screwing up the planet. Thankyou for identifying your stance so effectively, your last post tells a lot to the well informed. Benny Hill was only used as an example that Americans probably thought funny once. Actually he was not funny he was a rude and embarrassing slapper. You would not understand Leftists humour, it is above fart jokes and slapstick more often than not. We laugh at a lot more than you, but we do laugh at you too. There are few more extraordinary examples of Ironic …
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Chopper you are factually wrong about Bush and the USA not being actively engaged in threatening Venezuala. What planet are you living on? This is the latest, by the way. http://tinyurl.com/7jdj7
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I know, you don't think the invasion of Iraq, or th upcoming invasion of Venezuala and attacks on Iran have anything to do with oil do you? You think it is all about a War On Terror don't you? Counterpunch is not bad at all, as any educated person knows. Aging Stalinist? Reds are under the Bed...Chopper....go find em boy.... Anarcho-sozi Rense.com is one of the best news sites, they include the full spectrum of news, do have some writers in-house, but mostly just good sourcing of relevant news. Maybe you are familiar anyway. It was via Rense Rabbit came by …
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Rabbit did it. Rabbit is sitting just to the right of Ghandi. Economic Left/Right: -3.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.28 Definately the right side to be an Anarcho-Socialist. We don't get the Daily Show down-under, but Rabbit has seen a bit on the net. Luminous Beauty, I am not prepared to accept humour is unique to Humans. Parrots are full of fun and tricks and Rabbit has known a few that play tricks and are so obviously laughing about the result. Cats have a cynical sense of humour and Dogs ahave a goofy slapstick sense of humour. Dolphins have been seen to play …
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Have you read the one already given? More to follow.
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Rabbit returns with empty paws............... Chopper the Rabbit has given the matter his personally imposed obligatory half hour of searching, before feeling inclined to accept the point that Bush has not actually outright threatened Chavez, at least that is publicly known. This is hardly sufficient grounds to conclude he nor the US government is a threat ongoing to Venezezuala and Chavez in particular. There is however plenty of evidence of US covert interference and this is ongoing to the extent indicated by the above link. This is following a time worn tactic, as also evidenced in Iran presently, of CIA and …
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Regardless of religiosity, after 9.11 when Americans think of so called ‘terrorists,’ they instinctively envision Moslems. Since 77% of these Americans are Christian [1] and 2.2% are Jewish, [2] they fail to see their own religions and religious leaders as institutions and individuals promoting terrorism. Robertson makes it abundantly clear to the world that ‘terrorists’ are not just Moslems or even Jewish, but Christian as well. Terrorists today are religious fundamentalists with politically motivated right wing fascist theocratic agendas. The religious right and NeoCons (US republicans) commonly refer to Islamic extremists and terrorists as ‘Islamo-Fascists’. Enter Islamo-Fascism or Islamofascist in a …
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OH DEAR......Rabbit is mortified, he forgto to put the post with the quote marks and the url with the post and he never meant to say the above were his words, as anybody who reads the excellent article by.............hmm...whoever it is by..... http://tinyurl.com/bz6zc
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It is the same thing with what will follow these bastards. Once they are gone whoever follows will be considered to be a fresh broom when in reality they won't be. Just the next pre-chosen anointed one.
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Ah Chopper.....................Rabbit sees a small problem and wonders is it common to others perchance? You cannot click on urls on this site. ITT do not provide HTML options and clickable links, though as Jay just showed if one has the skills this is possible too. You will of course have to copy the urls as posted and paste them into the address bar, Rabbit opens lots of windows as a rule, so uses a spare, and press, 'GO'. Natalie has been so good as to bring slow old Rabbit up to date on TINY urls, which allow us to post much …
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Has we seen the news about Gates? Bill Gates has just dumped his US reserves......................................and changed to EUROs. Where is Scorpy? ..............OUCH.......... Venezuala dropped their 5 Billion or whatever they had and went Euro the other day, but that is a drop in the bucket to Gates' 46 Billion! "The dollar fell 21 percent against a basket of six major currencies from the start of 2002 to the end of last year. The trade deficit swelled to a record $609.3 billion last year and total U.S. government debt rose 8.7 percent to $7.62 trillion in the past 12 months. "It is …
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Nedn't bother, it wasn't Rabbit's words, merely a snip out of an article that many on this site would find of interest. If you have an issue with any FACT it claims as part of it's contention, then please be so good as to identify the FACTS you wish to question, we shall see if they hold water. Rabbit is not of the opinion that the article in quoted or full text, is the whole story and agrees instead with WHIT I think who posted after or was it ANARCHO-SOZI? Sorry can check but its not important. The Christian Fascists are …
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HOP HOP Rabbit is back.........Does this help?
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OOPS................... not good, ignore all that.
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GO HERE. http://tinyurl.com/a2sz7
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Rabbit doesn't mind, it is like walking to the post office when it's only a few hundred meters. Why put in an moving sidewalk? Anything whcih keeps spammers down is cool. Bah Hate spam..........
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Hello Seamus, it is like the hand of GOD just came down and touched the earth at Rabbit's feet...........................^^...........................
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David, the HTML format goes <..>.............
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Seamus, please if you see this.............................................. DO NOT ALLOW SMILIES............................................ NO SMILIES.....................................NONE.....................please...................................................^^..........................................
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Monk, you may not have any smilies....... you would be the worst abuser of smilies, Rabbit knows it......... you...........the Monkey............ you would be fiddling with those damned smilies and all we'd ever get out of you would be sermons peppered with smilies. Nat would like them, which is too bad. Rabbit will not tolerate smilies, they are daft.
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Rabbit hops around, feeling the love and all, but would prefer to avoid group hugs as such. Rabbit is an Aries as well as a Rabbit, doesn't like being smothered. Yet it is good to see all the shiny ones meeting each other, it is for this Rabbit lives. Luminous Beauty has always been called exactly this, by Rabbit, who has rather a habit (maybe a knack) of re-naming things, it has been observed. Rabbit often finds things with the wrong names, and sets about alerting folks to the mis-naming in his small way. It might be added that Rabbit only …
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Even the SCORP?
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SCORPY as always setting new benchmarks in ignorance. For the twentieth time you dimwitted contortionist, Rense is a news reference site. The article you are referring to is reprinted and linked to the original source, so what's the point of claiming that Rense is anything but accurately reporting? You are right we are not http://www.sebimeyer.com/?p=1229 which was from http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aO.Rl7JwFWy8&refer=news_index So how does that paint Rense as misleading anybody? As you say........ Bloomberg news........, so that just shows my source of RENSE does check out as always, idiot. So you are not equating the Venezualan pulling out of dollars and the Oil …
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The Scorp needs the stick. He get's enough love when looking in the mirror. Yes Neruda, you probably are just tired....hee hee... It is after all after midnight for you is it not? Here it is late afternoon.
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SCORPY Don't touch your linked name unless you want to see more stupid economists bleating doom and gloom.
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Rabbit just isn't that into using Christian Ideolgy examples, they are generally too complex and usurped in usage by the hijackers. The same source is such a minefield of controversy and useless historical narrative. It is misinterpreted as having more consequence than it's actual mere sideshow within the carnival of history would justify.
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MONK the Rabbit ALWAYS read people's link or at least checks them. In this case, the Rabbit plowed throughe examples but must mention that he was once a Christian and specnt four years in seminary, studying the Bible, but Rabbit was for two decades now a Budhist. So the stories and everything that can be read into and about them is long since emblazoned into rabbit's poor abused head. Rabbit is an Gnostic and finds the whole discussion of religious doctrine to be... BORING....that is all. religions are all so bloody allegorical and metaphorical, lets call a spade a spade and …
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Kuya, Rabbit originally thought you to be a lot younger than you are. But knew and knows all genders..thinks I...... Rabbit's, unlike Monks have much more basic instincts about male / females. Nevertheless, Rabbit is as "in touch with his feminine side" as Mrs Rabbit is with her masculine. She is a tough Viking, Rabbit is soft and fluffy.
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Kuya Idea of youth came from the perception of idealism, your outlook is youthful, that is not 'meant' as a compliment.............but of course it is. Rabbit comes from here and is going to here Rabbit's sworn ENEMIES ..................................................................^^....................................... Rabbit's world
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Rabbit points out only that Bush has become more hated and known for evil than hitler, in his own lifetime. CHOP CHOP
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Both your sons probably got the usual one eyed dumbed down version of history which passes in America for fact. To you no doubt it was all worthwhile. Too bad it isn't worth crap, and to some who likes war games, it must be obvious false information is bound to lead to defeat. Get ready to be defeated then, because you are seriously short on some important information about who you are and who your enemies are.
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OK Chopper probably both. Careless because Rabbit did notice that there was nuance of disproval in your mention of the education, as a Dad can easily recognise it. Rabbit doesn't even need to re-read your post to re-call this much. Yes, Rabbit has not so much got a mean streak as he can get quite excited when riled, and the result has even been the occassional scratch or bite of a friend. Those who have sufferred such an injury are invariably Rabbit's best friends, either before or after. However if it is before it is due to a misunderstanding early on, …
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Hey Luminous Beauty..... hast thou read Rabbit's early posts on the God Squad thread? Have a peek sometime...............saves repeating it all here. In Rabbit's case, the first wife was being strongly courted by JW's. Luv them fundy christians......not. Rabbit's first root was at an apostolic youth camp, though.................not all bad........................sweet Dawn Angel.......................... Her mum caught us in flagrante delicto, woof woof, a few weeks later..........................memories. All HISTORY now though. How's that for getting back on thread?
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Idiot Scorp The 2000 election was fraudulantly hijacked. The 2004 one also. How does this equate to if a mistake is made in an election, such as was alleged in the 2000 presidential contest, the voters can come back in 2004 and correct the mistake. The mistake, was a fraud, a dictatorial trick, and it was repeated, this is your example?
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Idiot Scorp. The labour Party of Oz is a socialist party and Denmark as well as Germany have a Socialist government, or largely so, they are not communists. Does anyone get the feeling Scorpy is becoming even more backward than before? Now look at the power-mad bureaucratic philosophies of the European Union and Another great Scorpism. Perhaps we'd better establish they are power mad bureacracies, compared to the USA, since that is the comparison. We cannot accept any of your grand assumptions idiot Scorp, for you are the grand poobar of bombastic self ironic rhetoric foot shots, and an obnoxious …
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the left today does not criticize leftists, regardless of how murderous or malevolent they were, or are. In your head. As always Scorpy argues with the Lefties of his fantasy. You are really just an irritation scorpy, the absolute lowest common denominator. Rabbit finds you to be a cockroach, in the final analysis. You have never been able to string together a single sentence without including at least one major, provably false assumption, yet you have so far managed to avoid ever once actually defending any of you stupid assumptions. You say it is so, and that makes it so. Excuse …
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Scorpy you rant and you rant, but never a link have we seen, never a straight answer to a difiicult question, You are the original ranter and NOBODY takes you seriously except the guy in the mirror. You are not even worth taking notice of when you are right, because you don't know the reasons why you are when you are. Idiot.
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The following is for everybody's eyes except scorpy, Rabbit does not want Scorpy to read it, and nobody should tell him what it is about.........please.. The TROOPS protecting freedom. The above link is spceifically forbidden to Scorpy. Don't..... ......Scorpy....Don't .... .you know it's a trick,......obviously Rabbit is trying to trick you.......he is trying to make you look so you must not do it............................of course..................eyes shut tight............................. ........^^........................
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Scorpy can you give us a single one of the 14 which doesn't also apply to the present US government?. You are once again shooting your foot off, it has before been pointed out you are in the same league as those others you mention.
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EmitFlesti, your accusations of what others are saying, and hence the strawman cry from Luminous Beauty, show only that you have barely if at all read the thread and understand the views of anybody much. The suggestion by one of you that one contrats between Neo-con and Nazis was the Jewish involvement with Neo-cons. Guess you don't know much history then brother because, as you say Fascism, and Communism too, had their roots among jews. The fact that Hitler, and Stalin murdered a lot of Jews was not only done with the knowledge and co-operation of Zionist Jews, it was even …
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"if one were to accept for the sake of argument the simplistic definition of Fascism as “Big Government in bed with Big Business”, how would this arrangement be any more intrinsically evil than Communism’s “Big Government in bed with Big Labor Unions, etc.”?. EmitFlesti The thing with communism is that the people who run the unions take over the rest of government too, and anyway, waht the hell has Communism got to do with Nazism or Neo-Conism? If as you say Fascism is also to be found in Communism, then it is even more obvious it could exist within Democracy. The …
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They are not CRUDE nor are they anti-semitism, you twerp. You had best look at the links, even thouigh Rabbit spelled it out, and pointed out the difference between Jews and Zionists, you still get it wrong. You are a wanker, stop wanking around here please. You have not yet had the info about the POLISH thing, so stop criticising something you have not yet seen, I also told you that was to come. Read the links given, and you will see that one of them is from a JEWISH group and any facts you wish to question, do so like …
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You have been given four different, randomly selected sources from about 7,000 with similar info. if any facts are in question, please list them and why, or are you just going to wank about it? Rabbit is not anti-semitic, or anti anything, except ignorance. So if you feel somehow Antipathetical towards Rabbit, that would explain it. .......................................................^^................................................
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Ever heard of Lenin............... Marx.........................^^.............................
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By the way, Semites, do not for the most part include most Jews. The people who would most closely be identified as Semites, are the Pallestinians, if Rabbit's memory serves him correctly. Who are these Semites towards whom Rabbit is ANTI? Do we mean people who speak Semitic languages? Or do we mean Semitic peoples? Maybe you are going by the Jewish definition? Rabbit is more along the lines of a form of Anti-Zionist, to save you guessing.
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EF....You are an uncommonly rash person, to be so rash and rush in so fast, to deny what another says is so, without even checking, is foolish. rabbit finds you to be quite boring, you are not too bright and hardly worth the keystrokes. All you do is say "No it isn't" and call people names, well you are earning a few names for yourself. As for feeling insane, Rabbit has wondered about his sanity from time to time, like all sane creatures. He feels pretty sane as it happens. It would be pointless for Rabbit to ask the same of …
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Tricky little site still, gotta watch those line breaks. Polish thing,
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Anarcho-Sozi your observation about the shill, the agent, it is ineteresting. Rabbit has definately got that impression too. Not necessarily this one, yet, but he has noticed there is always one, this site is not the only one to be infested, all important issues threads attract them of course. It is interesting to lead one from one thread to another where such a person would never normally have found itself on that thread, but with "their" assigned issues, ever vigilant. You can see a textbook case from the Radioactive Wounds of War thread, where one of the outed shills, actually does …
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This is a good site for those who would like to research the Jewish Zionist influence in History Ah HA a bad little extra = did it.
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For the edification of any who need it and can use it. Anarcho-socialism, Anarcho-socialism: A term which broadly refers to anarchism (social) and anarchism (mutualist). Most anarcho-socialists deem the term redundant, however, and prefer to be called "anarchists," not "anarcho-socialists." This is because they believe that the only true anarchy is socialist, and the only true socialism is anarchic. However, it remains a useful term, because it distinguishes them from others who, right or wrong, also consider themselves anarchists and socialists: for example, anarcho-capitalists and social democrats. (See anarchy; anarcho-syndicalism; libertarianism (left); and socialism. Compare to anarcho-capitalism; libertarianism (right) …
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Aint the internet a wonderful thing? Allows fools to be put in their place so quickly and easily......Allows for such ordered debate, even if the fools carp on, they cannot take back anything they say, none of us can. Who will live to regret their words most?
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Chopper that wasn't an answer to any of the 14, so go blow yourself. You have as yet oferred nothing in refutation of any of them, for the record. Reynardine Your presumption about what others on this site would know about is uncalled for and as it happens would be quite wrong. We all know what a*seholes the Kennedy's are, and as for the sins of the father, if only...............
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The indigtments, which The Conservative Voice, was whistling in the dark about on wednesday.....See them cringing in fear. Today is Friday (here) today is the day eh? Too bad it is only a battle, the war has hardly begun, but some ignominious falls will be good for morale, anyway. Ours anyway.
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When the Mountain Man returns from slumber after seeing the gladiatorial sport of men fighting over a ball, he might want to see this, it is Cold Water but should be remembered in light of the wider view. Hot Air trust Alex and crew to be the spoilsports, so conservative, always Prison Planet is conservative. Like the grown ups amongst us, kids on a beach looking for tresure, truth seekers. Got it, Fundys, Jones is a conservative by Rabbit's estimate, an intelligent and honest conservative. Moon Bat bait We haven't seen any moonbats lately, pretty Moonbats. Blue and flappy in …
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Wasn't someone attacking Noam Chomsky here a while back? "Best known for his contributions to the study of linguistics through his theory of generative grammar, this Professor Emeritus of Linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology has been the most intelligent, vehement critic of the US government during the current and the preceding centuries. Consistently writing (and speaking publicly) in a calm, thoughtful manner, for years Professor Chomsky charged America's ruling establishment and its obedient press corps with some of the most heinous crimes against humanity one could imagine. His political activism has spanned decades while his impressive list of …
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Hooray for Liz.........................Hello LIZ..........Excited Rabbit is to see you. Will you stay awhile? Coming right up Chopper, and as for not living in the USA, you can believe it. As it happens Rabbit has a lot of American friends, spends a lot of time on the internet, and reads a great deal. Rabbit also has the inestimable advantage, as has been noted by others, of being suffiently removed from things in America that it affords a more objective viewpoint. If Rabbit gets anything majorly wrong about the USA, then he has many good friends who would have told him about it …
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1. Rampant & Continuing Nationalism- I actually see relatively few flags, and none of the people I know actually wear flags or display them on their vehicles, including the political conservatives I know. What is relatively few? You are living inside your bubble and have no reference with which to make comparisons on this or indeed several of the claims such as this which are based on an objective analysis. Rabbit see's one Aussie flag on average per day, which is because on his way to work he 'usually' drives past a particular house who has a flag pole. That …
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How many potentially Muslim Bombs have been blown up in the USA............Chopper? How many bombs and much of them Dirty Bombs at that, has the USA dropped on Muslim Nations? You can even pretend all the terrorist attacks in America were Muslims if you want, even though probably none of them were. 2. would have to be said to be carried. You set up Libya to take the fall for Lockerbie, more scapegoats. Now that one has come undone too. Nope 2. is still looking good Chop.
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3. Supremacy of the military. The US has no draft, no military dictatorship, and the bulk of our budget does not go to the military. If this is military supremacy they are doing a pretty poor job of it. Let us keep it simple, The US Military Budget for 2005 $420.7 billion. " The US military budget is almost as much as the rest of the world's. The US military budget is more than 8 times larger than the Chinese budget, the second largest spender. The US military budget is more than 29 times as large as the combined spending …
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6. Corporate power. As a branch manager in a small company, I regularly get newsletters that illustrate practices that would get us into legal trouble for unfair employment procedures. Again, if there is a lot of corporate power those exercising it aren’t doing their jobs very well. Rabbit has some OSH qualifications and came across USA as an example and let me assure you, you have a system of OSH which considered an example of the wrong way to do things, Corporate power is not evident inthe laws, which are are prescriptive and made by government. The result however with a …
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Lovely Liz, Rabbit has read far enough down to see you had seen him here amongst the grass, and he is happy too you noticed he is an Anarcho-Socialist, he has called himself this about as long as he has realised he is an Agnostic Rabbit. Some things are so easy to understand once you read them, because they are. Rabbit could easily accomodate your theory about the Kennedys. Some things about Kennedy have given me pause to wonder along similar lines. If as we many do accept that there was establishment involved(CIA>>>MAFIA), then it seems likely that they were considered …
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Rabbit does some more Chopping.............. 8. Disdain for intellectuals and the arts. Intellectuals are in no way muzzled. In fact they are often quoted at length or aired by major media outlets. Do you mean that not everyone bows to their obvious (in their minds) intellectual superiority? That some of us don’t actually take such absurd figures as Ward Churchill seriously? In that case you are correct. William Buckley (himself an intellectual, although a conservative one) once famously said he’d rather be governed by the first 3,000 names in the Boston phone directory than by the faculty of Yale. There was …
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Would people like to see Rabbit change into Ultra Rabbit? He is sick of being a Ghost, it was only ever meant to be temporary, and he wishes to return, as a live Rabbit? Having taken the necessary steps with the recent Shill attack, to do this, Rabbit could do this. It distresses Rabbit to be called a Ghost, really.
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Chop Chop Chop Rabbit with his little axe, reaches number 10 10. Fradulent elections. Charged by leftwing partisans in the 2000 election. Not generally given much credence by impartial observers This deserves to be refuted in totality. Don't go selling your ass and then denying you sold it. The Impartial Observers who were hindered in Observing the US elections as it happens, DID not give either election the thumbs up and nor have many other impartial observers and Americans too. The 2004 election was widely criticised and as you will see from pushing the >Blue Button< it is now …
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The two people who were most successful in bringing the cold war to a close were Osama Bin Laden, and Michel Gorbachev. Despite Reagan.
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Jeez Chopper you are not much of a fish, more of a dud than anything.
“you say Bush says you have no quarrel with Islam.” Now your confusing Bush with me. Get a grip.
You see this is also a quote from you: .2. Identification of enemies/scapegoats. Bush has gone out of his way to state we have no quarrel with Islam itself. He has identified terrorists as enemies, perhaps understandable in that they actually have attacked us. There is a Muslim Mosque that openly operates in the city I live in, & I live in a city in a …
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When you can point to actual examples of homosexuals being persecuted by the government then I’ll take your post seriously.
Well Rabbit cannot oblige you here. He has never seen any need to raise the issue of homosexuality on this thread. Not the first time you raised it nor this one. So if this is the weird and wonderful test of integrity you have set the Rabbit, perhaps he must accept he will lack integrity with such an one as Chopper. Actually Rabbit is sure that Homosexuality, especially the ugly dominant kind is quite common practice among the government heirarchy, …Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
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How exactly could Ronald Mc Donald, oops sorry, Rabbit meant Ronald Reagan, be given credit for ending the cold war? Exactly how? As Rabbit recalls Reagan was busy setting up an inpossible dream at the time "star wars" and various other atrocities were being carried out in anticipation of many more decades of war. The USSR, led by Gorbachev, shocked the world with it's own internal collapse, and History shows it was bled to death by it's military, especially the sharp drain on morale and economy represented by the WAR in Afghanistan. That is not delusional Chopper, it is history and …
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While we are at it can anybody predict what history might be saying about the demise of the USA in a decade from now?
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The war in Afghanistan drained the morale and economy of the Soviet Union because of Reagan’s support for the insurgents.
How odd that a dittohead can produce this fact after denying that Osama Bin Laden is a CIA creation, as they do. Reagan didn't support them beyond the fact the policy was longstanding and ongoing but more importantly the people who were resisting the USSR successfully are the same people who are successfully resiting your imperial warmongering as we talk. They did not fight or win because of the USA. If you wish to argue against that as you will …Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
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Also, Soviet scientists told Gorbachev that they didn’t know whether or not the US could get the SDI to work, but that they couldn’t produce something like it. Another major factor in the break-up of the Soviet Union was the Pope’s support for Solidarity, which indirectly lead to the breakup of the eastern block. Your reading of history is highly selective, designed to support your delusional views.
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Yes Rabbit had already agreed your government are a bunch of bum brothers, it is a part of Skull and Bones lore. Not in the "normal" sense of our homosexual brothers and sisters, but rather as a deliberate act of perversion. It is an important issue to those who hold fast to the Bush. Of course it is. But does it occur to Chopper that one can be a Homosexual and a pervert as well?
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So the Pope and Reagan did it now?
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Before Rabbit has even found the comparison of US Military Budget to other, less important things like education, health and emergency services , there is THIS which sort of makes anything further on the issue redundant. Push the link and look at the graph half way down the page, and tell Rabbit how you can argue the USA is not dominated by the Military. Like Rabbit said, the rest of the world feels the lash.................... but you dorks are paying for it.
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Another thing Rabbit was hoping others would mention is about number 9. Jose Padilla .....................a start to legal abuses.
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Rabbit salutes you Mr Kurt Vonnegut. You shall henceforth be known as Sir Kurt Vonnegut, to Rabbit and all the kingdom. Thankyou for your contributions to truth and light and peace. If we do not get another chance to say this Happy Birthday Sir Kurt, for November 11. Hop Hop Hooray........................................................^^...........................................
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Rabbit has a mob of "Blackfellers" as they call themselves and such a term can and is used respectfully by Rabbit and "some" white when refferring to or about them. There are stereotypes about Australian natives as there are natives and minorities in any culture. There is often a history of domination and abuse of the native or minority culture which is the actual source of the anger or resentment. This feeling is merely invoked by the wrong person using such words in the wrong circumstance. Rabbit might call his best mate, an ugly old basta*d, and he might call someone …
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That was meant to say "Rabbit knows a mob of blackfellers". David change your hadle to Monk. You know why................................................................^^.................................................
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Lay off the animals Kuya....Just kidding. Call em the Rabbiots Rabbit does not care. Most people here make good points and some are merely at a different stage of facing racial stereotypes. I like WTH don't mind Racial stereotypes and take them for how they are intended. This does not mean I have to be insensitive about how a particular term may be offensive in some company. You do not for example probably use the same language aound ladies and children as that reserved for Male friends or colleagues. Thankyou Phaedrus. The Rabbit was once among his aboriginal friends in Northwest …
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WTH you are only right in a society which has dealt with all those issues of Racism. When that time comes, you will know about it. Such debates as this will cease. Then we can all laugh at the stereotypes like my lot, the Scottish can laugh about the English, and the saem goes for the IRis more and more. these things take time, but like I said, the perpetrators are not the ones who call the shots when it comes to re-conciliation. Wishing it, won't make it so. Ignoring it does not make it go away. Only education, of ourselves …
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Oh and by the way, anybody heard any good jokes about the "Septic Tanks" lately? Take Rabbit's word for it WTH and any others, there are jokes about USA which are stereotypical and they would be very offensive to you, even though people of other nations would laugh long and loud, and would definately get it. Somebody is going to ask, and Rabbit will not go there. Google it.
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WTH the re-defining of words which goes on constantly due to the internet, and youthful ignorance is a never ending source of annoyance to Rabbit too. Gay was already bent out of shape for homosexuals, now it has been given a new meaning again and has come even further from its roots. Too many words to begin to list, maybe we'll have a thread about the subject one day, then lets start. Why the hell can't they LEARN THE LANGUAGE and then see if after that they need new words. They usually end up with one word, re-defined to be used …
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Has WTH read 1984? This is why Rabbit is vigilant about use of words. NEWSPEAK is given a foot in the door when words have loosely defined, even shifting meanings. Since we have not yet mastered telepathy, words are our only form of communication. We would be well advised to guard the meanings of words and ensure they are as clearly and universally definable as possible. To do otherwise is to DEVOLVE. The tower of Babel? Consider this on a grand scale, where nobody can accurately portray their meaning to anybody else. Extreme sure but every vaguely or ill-defined word is …
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This is a subtle thing but relevant to what Rabbit is saying. Rense has as a regular feature the weekly south african report, by Jan Lamprecht. http://www.africancrisis.org/ Rabbit has noticed that as happens once in a while, it includes a couple of African jokes. The jokes are mildly sexist which is rare, but Rabbit thinks he has noticed a pattern to when these type of jokes turn up in a report that typically includes a grim catalogue of human carnage, including a massive number of Rapes, Africa's greatest shame. These jokes seem to occur on the odd occassion there are no …
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It must be night time and all Rabbit's friends are sleeping, down there...................^^...............................Rabbit looks down between his toes at the ground................................ tries to imagine you all sleeping and walking about, down there, under the ground..............................Rabbit is hopping about early evening here and going soon to bed. Posting the following since it is too good not to, but after one joke on another thread it might be taken as being a bit much, two in a row. ----------------------------------------- While on vacation in a foreign land, an American happened to chance upon a curious store. The sign outside read: "Brains for Sale". Intrigued, …
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Very glad WTH appreciates the joke. The ability to laugh at oneself is a great Aussie tradition, and it protects us from fatal hubris. What is an American's idea of foreplay? "Are you awake, sweetheart?" What is an Aussie's idea of foreplay? "You awake?" Not good but the best I have just now. Actually the link was pretty crummy after all, hope you ignored it. Rabbit's humour tends to be more of the dry and satyrical type to be sure. Cannot help but admire the wit and speed of it sometimes. One day after the Space shuttle Challenger Disaster, NASA === …
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"Considering the title I suppose the author of this article to be upset. I suppose I could be, but it doesn’t bother me" That is only valid if you are a native Indian, are you?
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OK we are digressing a bit, but WTH and Rabbit don't often get a chance to be nice to one another so we probably both enjoy it when the opportunity arises. We probably both sense a not vastly different soul on the other side, age and all similar too I'd guess. Rabbit is Scottish/Irish ancestry, early colonists and convicts to OZ. Some more recent English blood and some french a long time ago. Mrs Rabbit is pure blood Danish, all the way back to King Gorm den Gamle. (Gorm the OLD) Also a Mongrel. Now actually this is not altogether off …
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Interestingly, Rabbit has noticed a pattern of debate develop since that time which he thinks relates directly . The whole creation/evolution debate seemed to pick up a serious head of steam ever since. Feels, does Rabbit, that some weakness in evolutionists maybe percieved by creationists who are exploiting it. The thing is that evolutionists have tried too hard to prove a particular line of reasoning on the origins of man. While the theory of NATURAL SELECTION, is just not debatable, the evidence is in, enough and more than enough to have dispelled any doubt. This does not and nor did it …
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Mistake. --definately NOT what Rabbit thinks of as God.
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The difference between human DNA and almost any species is very minimal actually. In the order of a couple of percent. There as much about animal sentience WTH might find interesting. Apes are not the most intelligent animals, as it happens, that is a human perception and it is largely based upon the percieved similarities between apes and humans. Most peoples perceptions about animal intellignece comes from old and outdated research. More recntly it has been realised that a standard form of testing was being used with all species which had been deveolped with only a very narrow percetion in the …
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The things I could tell you about Rabbits. Does Kuya know about all the archaeological evidence of how long we've been on this planet? There is rock solid evidence that modern man has been walking around Earth since before the dinosaurs. There are ruins which were ANCIENT at the time of the oldest known civilisations. Rabbit will be glad to find some links. There are human footprints in 300 million year old Rock. Including the outline of sandles with discernable stitching. There is all this unused "junk" DNA too. There is speculation that this may include a timeless message to our …
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Yes Africa is where the "EVE" skeleton was found. Rabbit has some fairly unusual convictions about the origins of Man, including his history. It has taken a lot of information gathering through a life of curiosity. Included are some personal experiences which also tend to lead to certain conclusions too, and finally there is that special place inside which tells if one is facing an important truth. Rabbit would love to discuss these matters with Kuya, but fears the trolls will go off the deep end, the confusion and consternation it would cause them is too much to face.
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Rabbit can be e-mailed sgp1963@hotmail.com Any of Rabbit's friends are welcome to drop a PM, some have found Rabbit on other sites via google. Rabbitvoz has a few places where PM are able.
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Rabbit is an Gnostic so all religions are part of the game, none more or less important than any other except by virtue of the weight of numbers of it's adherants, all just different poems about the same great event. All written and interpreted by Gnostics at some time in their history, for Gnostics never follow, can only lead. In the same way all religions fail at their outset, for none but another Gnostic can trully follow another Gnostic's path. As an Aussie Rabbit feels entitled to say without any further ado that Rupert Murdoch is a C*NT and not in …
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WTH you are never going to be taken seriously while you say things like "I think Bush is honest, but — simplistic, suggestible, and unable to adapt his thinking to changing circumstances" Seriously WTH we cannot keep this up. Must Rabbit actually prove to you that Bush is an inveterate liar? Will you take notice if I give you the proof? Nobody who Rabbit respects can say that Bush is not a Liar, with a straight face. It will not be hard, the proof is there is his own words and the Downing Street Memo's are but a small part of …
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This is both informative and very well presented. For a good grounding on some of the biggest lies about IRAQ. A good start. One must make a conscious decision about categorising GWB lies for they are of such an enormous quantity and such varied seriousness that a simple listing of some would never begin to do the subject justice. http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/iraq_lies.html The following is from CNN in 2003. It isn't as if you didn't see it coming in good time. "President George W. Bush has got a very serious problem. Before asking Congress for a joint resolution authorizing the use of U.S. …
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WTH is there not a twinge of embarrassment for you upon reading the above? Rabbit can find some of his own postings about the Net from about the same time and you might find Rabbit's predictions very accurate. Not that it was hard, there were plenty of us then saying it was all lies, we knew you see, and we know even better now.
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Furthermore, those of us who called the lies last time and were proven right in every respect, to thye WMD's the aftermath and the "AFTERMATH". Those of us who did so last time are tellling you that it is happening again. Exactly the same process of lies and exagerations and false propaganda in such Rags as any Murdoch controlled media for a start, is being perpetrated upon you and the world at large thanks to your acceptance of it. This time there are many more of us who are awake up to the lies. This time the lies are likely to …
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BTW because the Iranians have such a military including suicide bombers is not cause to consider them a threat. They do not threaten you or anybody who does not threaten them. Sorry if that does not seem fair, but you are not the only country allowed to defend itself, even if you are the only country who seems to be allowed to attack others with apparent impugnity. You will claim they sponsor terrorism, well you bring your proof and Rabbit will bring the proof of all the terrorism supported by USA and Israelis. Shit, they just arrested four Mossad agents trying …
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WTH working my way down your posts and this was to David, but Rabbit will answer. It really should not be relevant at this point what you agree with about the weapons of Mass destruction. There were inspectors, including US agents and they found no WMD's. They were not allowed to continue because USA attacked. The speed of the fall of Iraq, would have ensured nothing was able to be hidden in time, actually Aussie SAS were behind the lines weeks in advance to ensure things were secured. The simple fact is that no WMD's have been found, not even the …
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"France, Russia, and Germany had economic deals with Saddam" yes WTH so did US companies. The Oil for food business was not what you have been told. Have you never heard of George Galloway? His story is tied closely with the US governments piracy over OIL for Food. The details have been mentioned elsewhere. The thing which the USA had a problem with was that these countries were giving Saddam EUROs for payment of OIL. There is nothing illegal with that. The USA considers it to be the worst thing in the world, a direct and serious threat to it's currency. …
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WTH jumping a few points here to deal with the following: "I guess labeling must surely verify its the TRUTH" I'm at a loss to understand this. No WTH labelling it as comment, makes it recognisable as opinion. This does not make truth, the facts and how they relate to the opinion are what make it truth. Your misunderstanding comes from the inability to completely understand Facts and Opinions as being separate. This is not made clear in the MSM, and that is the point. Frankly you are becoming less rational rather than more when you make such jumps of logic. …
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" would certainly hope that should an immanent threat develop whoever is Commander in Chief would not wait for a world consensus before taking appropriate action" What about if WORLD opinion was that you were wrong to attack? Precisely because there was no imminent threat? That is what the situation in reality is. The situation you and others keep referring to like this, is hypothetical and we are actually discussing a real event, let us stop the waffle and deal with Facts, not fantasy. Don't come back with 911. Firstly Iraq was not in any way involved. Secondly 911 has not …
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When you give details of Iranian Suicide Bombers attacking the USA, not claims by American liars, actual evidence that any such thing has happened, and that such has happened without justification, you will be taken seriously. In the Meantime WTH your argument is going round in circles. You have not done anything but refer to the shallow glossed over MSM story of things even when these have since been shown to be completely false. You have obviously not got any idea of the wrold beyond what the MSM tells you and that is tragically obvious to anybody who has travelled and …
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An opinion from people you only think exist on your TV screen. Read it, nothing about holy wars, nothing about hating Americans way of life. Rabbit is goint to make a point of posting opinions from "The East" just so we can see how fanatical and dangerous they "Really" are. Maybe I can get some friend from the Middle East to post here to. How would you like the people about whom you are always theorising to tell you what they think? Maybe you think that Rabbit is mad, surely Arabs can't understand English you think. Certainly not enough to be …
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Now this is going to piss them off! USA loses control of the Internet....not happy faces. http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0%2C16376%2C1585288%2C00.html
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Rabbit never previews, silly Rabbit. There is a certain signature to Rabbit postings which make it near impossible to duplicate, however and Rabbit feels the occasional embarrassing spelling errors have thus got a trade-off. Here is a good article on Iran and the whole issue. It is mainly an opinion piece which does hwever refer to widely known facts. Rabbit hopes WTH does read all articles posted when they are directed his way. Rabbit promises he does so self and if he has not read any piece he always does before commenting. I try to keep sources to a minimum, and …
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Something at least as important, has WTH ever taken the time to read Riverbend's Blogspot? "Bahgdad Burning" ...........? This is a very interesting journey into the world of a truly lovely young woman. Rabbit loves this star from afar. Do yourself a favour and get this perspective. Enjoy the journey and do leave any sceptisism at the door. The quality of River's English is very understandable if you know her history and she has long since been established to be the real deal. If you wish to expend the time and energy others have to try and discredit this lady, you …
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The quake was felt across a wide swath of South Asia from central Afghanistan to western Bangladesh. It swayed buildings in the capitals of three nations, with the damage spanning at least 250 miles (400 kilometers) from Jalalabad in Afghanistan to Srinagar in Indian Kashmir .............and you tell me over and over and over again my friend, .........you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction......................^^...............
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WTH the national government has the situation well in hand. There is nobody actually criticising their efforts and that is for the reason that they are handling it very well. The disaster is a very major one, in actuality and the casualties will probably be twice the 30,000 being estimated. these things always go like that. Don't you remeber the Boxing Day Tsunami, early estimates were just 15,000, even three days later. Please do not have the temerity to compare a massive earthquake across the areas you yourself quoted, with the "small" storm which became a tragedy because of a historically …
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Rabbit is still maintaining his control but cannot avoid pointing out that the authorities in Pakistan are helping get food and help from all sources into the stricken ones. They have not put a military perimeter around the stricken area to stop everyone going in or out either. They are evacuating those who need it and they are not actually shooting anyone or threatening to do so yet. Furthermore it is three days since it happened.................. "Our rough estimates say more than 30,000 people have died in the earthquake in Kashmir," minister Tariq Farooq said on Sunday.
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A Little Help from a Nun... A soldier came to a fork in the road and saw a nun standing there. He asked her, "Please Sister, may I hide under your skirts for a few minutes? I'll explain why later." The nun agreed to his request. Shortly thereafter, two MP's came running along and asked her if she had seen a soldier running down the road. She replied, "He went that way." After the MP's disappeared, the soldier crawled out from under her skirt and said, "I can't thank you enough Sister, but you see, I don't want to go to …
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The above is meant to be funny and it is not expected anybody would be offended of course. Telling it has nothing to do with earlier comment. Rabbit just saw it in the weekly South African Report and passed it on.
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"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. . . No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." - James Madison, Political Observations, 1795 Good macro economic article, thanks to the MONK. More and more are catching on to the big game now. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CLA20050927&articleId=199
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It's good enough Whattheheck. Rabbit gave up writing letters to mainstream long ago. But somebody has too, and a conservative viewpoint, will be listened to by the people who are most out on the wrong side. Rabbit actually values conservatism, and on many issues would rather not even debate, even though my own views may differ. The issues may not be as important in the overall scheme of things as us finding the common ground. Rabbit has long since recognised in you a 'true' conservative and this is the source of the respect and patience he shows you. Admittedly the olive …
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I swear to you from one Man (rabbit) to another, I know that most Muslims, and all Muslim Countries are happy to just be left alone, without US propped up regimes like the Saudis and the Shah, not to mention those thieves in Kuwait or the Pakistanis, Turkey. Any country in the Mid east which has a bastard government has it for one of two reasons. Either they are put in place and supported by the USA, or they are a reaction to the threats of the USA. Moderate governments are historically unpopular with poeple who are being threatened by others, …
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Since the semblance of international law existed in the 1991 war, indeed Hussein should have been removed then, many people in Iraq were promised it would happen and they were left at the alter. There Saddam found them and murdered them. The fact is that the USA preffered instead to subject IRAQ to ten years of absolutely inhumane sanctions which cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocents, many children and RICE acknowledged this, calling it justified. This cannot be spinned any other way, the USA subjected IRAQ to unconscioable sanctions and when Iraq was on its knees, then used …
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WTH God kills tens of thousands of people on a regular basis, how about you point your guns and missiles at him and let fly the lot? Straight up and consequences be damned. You may think that sounds insane, Bush and his Junta might see the sense in that. If God talks to Bush then Bush might be getting a bum steer from God and this is really what is driving him back to the bottle and pills. They might just get it into their strabge Neo-con heads to shoot at god. The consequences of this action, are unlikely to be …
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WTH Rabbit and most of the world does limit the blame for the sanctions to the USA. This is for the same reason that any sanctions which are brought to bear against Iran will be wholly the doing of the USA. Then as now the USA pressured the UN, HUGELY, bribing and threatening other members to do their vidding. This is also being done, and with even less justification in the case of IRAN. The "Dowing Street memos" clearly show that the sanctions and all the more and more strict requirements were being manipulated so as to set up IRAQ for …
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You are quite incorrect about the "Innocent" civilians. Most of them are being killed by bombs and missiles fired by the USA. Don't you dare to make up such details, WTH. Your claim that those 150,000 deaths are mostly due to insurgents are so false. You are NOT to lower yourslf to denying basic truth. IF you do not realise this, please ask and you will be given the evidence. On the day of the London Bombings alone, I recall more than fifty Iraqis were killed by a single US bomb. That is a scale of civilian deaths that occurs on …
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How can we discuss 911? Wll WTH it is not hard actually. You see it is becoming more and more apparent that the US government was at least partially responsible for 911. At the moment the best that you can say is that it has not been proven, in a court of law. This is so far true but is unlikely to remain so for much longer, for several reasons detailed on another thread. Let us hypothesise WTH. Let us for arguments sake, suppose that the people who pulled off 911, were controlled or manipulated by the US government, or more …
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Muslims dislike your lifestyle about the same as you dislike theirs, you are the only one doing the killing though. They are just asking to be left alone. No Muslims are coming from IRAQ even today to kill Americans. As for killing Americans and Brits and Aussies who are involved in a militrary invasion of their country, stiff shit. The invasion is illegal and the first Officer in the UK is being court mashalled now over refusing to go on these grounds. Rabbit thinks he will probably win. The British courts are like the Australian Courts, much harder to corrupt than …
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The following is from Rabbit's friend in Baghdad, Riverbend. "The referendum promises to be somewhat confusing. People are saying it should be postponed. Now is not the right time. More changes were made a few days ago to the supposed ‘final’ draft of the constitution- the one that was submitted to the UN. It was allegedly done to appease Sunnis. The trouble is that it didn’t address the actual problems Iraqis have with the constitution (Sunnis and Shia alike). The focus of negotiations by ‘Sunni representatives’ seemed to revolve around Iraq’s Arab identity and de-Ba’athification. A clause has also been added …
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Once in a while it would be nice to see a conservative faced with an inescapble fact which challenges their beliefs, and admit it, rather than just fading out..
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Since Rabbit's concept of a verifiable fact, is that it can be proven, WTH must have a very strange idea of what constitutes a fact. Having never yet given a source of any use for ANYTHING one wonders at the temerity of WTH. Rabbit is quite capable of proving any FACT he has established. If WTH had ever questioned any fact directly this would and will be done. To merely claim as he does, that Rabbit's sources are "internet commentaries which fit your own ideas and declaring them to be facts" Is the height of ignorance. You have not even read …
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Rabbit said it. Rabbit believes it to be true. You have mentioned a couple of obscure sources of mine before but I didn't recognise them. As for this thread, what sources have you read and what is your query of them? Or what FACT of history has Rabbit corrected you on and which he should provide better reference? Facts about Issues which matter please. If it turned out that you have read one or two of Rabbit's sources (and not merely glanced), what difference does that make, except to show you have read one or two? Note also that the statement …
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Rabbit is more interested in establishing the truth or otherwise of Facts about relevant history, which contribute to the different viewpoints held by two essentially similar creatures. My contention WTH, is that since we are essentially the same, our age, probably social economic background and cultures are very similar. We are both probably fathers, with jobs and or businesses, we are both intellignet sensible and well meaning men. So why does one of us at least believe that the other is holding a viewpoint which is a threat to his world? Since Facts must be the same, for both of us …
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Rubbish WTH Facts are provable. Not always via the internet, but for the sorts of things we are normally refferring to, like history and what people have said, or done, they are indeed. Or else they are not likely to be called facts. You are avoiding the issues WTH, you are making blanket claims which can be proven or disproven. It is not enough to say what you are saying, The juy example does not go. If you have two opposing stories and no way of verifying either, then you have no way of establishing the facts, that is all. Seriously …
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These threads and others too can be long, but that is invariably due to there being an opposition who refuses to acknowledge sources, or even more blatantly ignores everything being said by others. It is always the same, everything such an opposite says, is minutely dissected and dealt with in detail by posters such as myself, while everything said by the others is more and more off topic, continually repeated while ignoring everything that has been said in reply. It is dishonest and obvious dissembling and you too are now doing it. It is a natural human reaction to being faced …
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Take note WTH, Rabbit has admitted error and surrendered points to others on occassion. Rabbit suggests that this of itself is a very good indication of Rabbit's honesty and open mindedness. You have to stop being PROUD of having a closed mind. You are fighting as if it was a castle, and your determination does you credit. It is all wasted though because all you have is an admitted pile of rubble. We can't even make much out of the rubble, to be honest and Rabbit is pretty creative as a rule. But we can give you some decent building blocks …
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OK you can say it, but that doesn't make it true. Rabbit does not consider anonymous comments from internet sources to be reliable information, what on earth are you talking about? Rabbit offerred an article a while back which was an opinion piece. He commented about facts to whichj it refferred but saifd then that if the facts were to be questioned they would be verified. It was an anoymous comment and was presented as such, the argument was valid too if the facts as presented by it are accurate. Those facts can be verified, as can any, or they are …
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How about this for a challenging discussion, then?...
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"Judge not that ye be not judged" -------Mathew 7:1 (I think) ....Gratuitous Rabbit...... A lot of people are looking at this strange person. Expect this thread to liven up soon. Meanwhile Rabbit was here, saw it and he to hops away for more info about the JUDGE. She has a Blog they say?
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The worst thing about her will be if she causes problems with indictments against Bush who she reportedly admires..............Rabbit feels sick
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Rabbit's experience with Judges suggests they are mostly unnaturally flawed people with an occasional reasonable and thoughful one thrown in. Maybe an average ratio of 2 weirdos / 2 Sickos / 1 Thoughtful and Humane Judge. Just an observation.
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How Many Wolf? If you have the answer Rabbit would like to know actually, also whom of them if possible. By the Way Rabbit would not automatically consider lack of experience as being a serious disqualifier, ON IT'S OWN, for anything.
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Too Trippy for Rabbit. Rock on though. WOLF, Rabbit is wanting to know how many Supremes were not Judges before. Rabbit is interested in Judges actually and is not baiting you. Solemn Rabbit promise. It seemed like a reasonable thing to consider.
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Mother, father, brother and sister as well as friend and enemy are also, "just labels" David. Whattheheck Rabbit has a definition of neo-cons which he feels does the trick. THOSE ADHERANTS OF THE POLICY OF PNAC. "The Project for the New American Century" -- The Fourth Reich. You should have a close look at PNAC and here are a few references, deliberately intended to give a wide variation of sources. Do at least have a look at the ICH ref though. By the way, Rabbit has had Republicans tell Rabbit that PNAC is a conspiracy theory....HA ha ha......Read about it and …
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"That covers the foreign policy part of it" Speaking as a "Foreigner" what else is there? Actually isn't there something about Americans in there somewhere? ...........................^^......................
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Sorry Salient Rabbit was only being flip by referring to the fact that the name includes American so there aught to be something inthere about Americans. Not very clear, I grant you. The comment about foreigners is inferring that to "Other" than US citizens the US foreign policy is what defines the USA we know. What else is there? The point of view is the only point really, not meant to be serious stuff. Rabbit never disagreed with your contention at all though, noticed we cross posted as it happened. Does theocracy really come into it? of necessity anyway? Isn't that …
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Salient Rabbit will look at the link, shortly. Still questioning this though. Do you really think these people are religious? OK the followers of Neo-conservatism may as well be, but what about the Neo-con leaders? Rabbit almost wrote it doesn't matter anyway, but thought better of it. In fact this may be important. Am asking because I don't really have any way of knowing at this distance, but the impression is of phonies.
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Bush isn't a practsing Christian. Rabbit has heard he has never been seen in church. That is of itself no proof either way, but I believe in America it is much more common for folks to attend church, and if Bush was what he said surely he'd be doing a bit of rubbing shoulders with the Flock? Even if just the well fleeced flock. OK, have seen the Theocracy watch article and it is more or less how rabbit saw them anyway. Just had not really extended that to mean they were privately practising Christians. That does not actually mean a …
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Sorry to clarify a couple of points upon re-reading my post. Rabbit has only heard as said that Shrub no goes to church. There may be challenges oferred with which Rabbit will not argue, for he is no expert on such things. Rabbit also meant that Christ was an Gnostic. He was not a Christian as some looney once tried to tell Rabbit. Christ was a Christian, that is what they say. Or else, he is God. Rabbit is not inviting any CCCs (Card carrying christians) to explain the mysteries here thankyou, he has had four years of seminary which never …
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Rabbit suggests the MONK, looks to anything relating to the "Great Whore of Babylon" Read all about the GWOB, as she shall henceforth be known. Approprite really, sounds about right too. The GWOB begins a GWOT ..................... What can we do with this, MONK from the Land of the Maple Leaf? More good anagrams please, let us weave a tapestry together. A truly Monkish enterprise feels I. Shall see if I can find a GREAT sermon from a fine Christian minister from the USA who expounds upon the GWOB, with gusto...............^^...................
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Try the following in a search engine and let Rabbit know if it doesn't get the article. It is in achives anyway and can be e-mailed. AMERICA: THE END TIME BABYLON? By CHARLES PERKINS, Pastor CLAIREMONT BIBLE BAPTIST CHURCH 3410 MT. ACADIA BLVD. SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 92111
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A good link back to the topic of Harriet Myers. http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_douglas__051006_the_truth__the__less.htm WTH something you said bears repeating for Rabbit. "My belief is problems should be dealt with as close to home as possible. More effective and more efficient that way IMO" .....Absolutely....Now is maybe the time to reveal the Rabbit's political persuasion...............Anarcho-Socialisism. This is to me an extension of the natural order of human society. It has always been the most successful in giving long term security for any race. Consider the Australian Aborigine's. ......................They had a sustainable lifestyle which remained stable for at least 40,000 years. That my black and …
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It must be noted at this juncture however that Rabbit is not an Anarcho-socialist as much as Anarcho-socialism best describes Rabbit's idea of perfect government. This is why I could also add that some form of republican "Umbrella Government" would still be a good idea. It would allow us to maintain our cultural characteristics, while allowing some of the wider issues of governance to be shared by all concerned. WTH it seems to Rabbit that you are shackling your ideas to an outdated mode of thinking. The assumption that Liberals stand for anything for example. The assumption that people can be …
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A couple of brief thoughts. If the US economy goes where it looks like it is headed, a form of Isolationism may be your only chance of survival. The form of "local governance' represented in the racist south example was not a product of anarcho socialism by the way, it was an offshoot of the top down way of running things. This leaves the responsibility in this case at a local level but made the oversight a federal responsibility. In fact Rabbit is of the opinion that Anarcho-socialism with or without that Title BTW, is a form of governance best suited …
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WTH, in all fairness your answer to Rabbit's postings above are a bit glib. The Aborigines were as said used as an example of Political Stability. The fact that they lived a primitiv lifestyle and did indeed maintain a status quo, is not the point. As Rabbit said, we are more sophisticated today, and the transplantation of an Anacho-Socialist system would give much more freedom and versatility to people. This need not stifle development, in fact it owuld I believe act as an enormous incentive to development of good ideas. You are doing nothing more with your political talk, than proposing …
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Bosnia needs to be seen in light of all it's history and not merely the two line sanitized version which we were/are fed by the MSM. Don't raise it as an example of the USA or anybody doing anything right, if you know what is good for you. It doesn't stand up. Rabbit not only will post much from the net to illustrate, he lived in Northern Europe at the time and counts Bosnians as well as Massedonians among his friends, then as now. Rabbit was VERY close to what was going on, it sucked, all round. It is not a …
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The soviet example is very shortsighted too I'm afraid. There was never any feeling that there was a soviet threat anywhere but in America. That was a wholly american invention, with of course thye usual suspects playing along. This is not to say there was not an imminent threat of War between the "Two Superpowers" but only an American could see that as you being the white hats and the Russkis being the black hats. The problem was never merely the USSR, but the pre-prepared conflict between the USSR and the USA. The posturing and carryings on which brought the world …
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No WTH Rabbit does not actually believe there were any suicide bombers on 911, or if they were they were certainly known about and overseen by the US government. WTH the simple yhing to remeber is that almost everything you believe has very little basis in FACT. The view you have of 911, Iraq, Afghanistan, in fact the whole world has very little relationship to reality. You do not actually have any reason to believe Muslim Suicide bombers were responsible, or solely responsible for 911. You may start spluttering about FACTS and proof, but the FACT is that you have nothing …
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To continue to argue against something of which you are obviously unaware, is the height of stupidity. You've failed to comprhehend why so many doubt the official story. Half of the population of NEW YORK think the government was involved. Does that sound like a silly conspiracy theory WTH? Your silliness about Russia and Europe is just that. Mickey Mouse versions of history which seems to think every event in history happens in a vacuum. You are constantly parrroting the narrow viewpoint of one party to history, the USA. You are failing to consider important historical background. A few examples. Largely …
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If you ever do get the courage to look at things you will not be able to maintain your views, that is a certainty. How is it that we can fearlessly examine anything posted by the deluded ones, yet you cannot bear to even read our sources? Obvious really. You are rtight about firing arbitrarily into crowds, why do your soldiers keep doing it then WTH? The main damage your troops are facing is DU poisoning from their use of enormous quantities of Nuclear Waste to poison the country of IRAQ. Their own lives will be miserable and short thanks to …
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"Please — don’t bother sending lengthy comments from internet sites. Just realize we will never come to an agreement on this issue — and that there is no reason we need to" WTH this is saying basically that you have no intention of changing your mind. That is the problem, yours. Rabbit has every intention of changing his mind, about anything, if FACTS can be established which give a reason to. This is why for example Rabbit has changed his mind on a few matters since posting on the net. The first pre-requisite for advancement in knowledge is an open mind. …
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A lot of people like you once refused to change their minds about the earth being flat. Eventually though you people change or die out and truth just ignores you.
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Q: What's the difference between an American and an American bomb? A: The bomb can find Iraq on a map
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WTH it is a very telling point that you can write off so many references so glibly. You have selected some very odd choices out of the links given and have obviously not considered all the sources and WHY they were given. The main things being refferred to are facts, they are listed in the articles given, and plenty of sourcing for each fact is included within the articles. Youy are just being willfully ignorant in your LACK of consideration of them. The FACTS from which the OPINIONS or THEORIES of others are formed, things you have not even tried to …
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The Pearl Harbour Attack is history WTH and nobody Rabbit knows is saying it wasn't. But it has history leading up to it and following it as well. You only deal with it as an isolated act in history. You fail to consider the rest of the story which shows that the attack was wanted and invited by the US admin, and when the attacking force was detected on the way, this was kept secret from the forces at Pearl Harbour. Go read about it one day. As for the Atom Bombs, it is long since public knowledge that they were …
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Ascribing ridiculous ideas, not subscribing oops .....................
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Monk, that was almost Rabbit's toe then. WTH is going to come back and say that those 150,000 Iraqi's wre just shot because the insurgents hide in the built up areas. This is traditionally how resistance forces do fight of course. The reason is pretty easy to understand. The resistance is comprised of the population. If the people don't want the resistance to hide among them, they won't be able to. So those 150,000 may well all have been enemies after all, WTH. At elast they were potential enemies. Best thing to do then is kill them before they turn into …
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Funny that WTH is now using the tactic of falsely claiming Rabbit is anything but calm. Rabbit's blood pressure and health are in top shape and as an ARIES and professional pyrotechnician, it might be deduced that Rabbit is a very calm and relaxed soul. The funny thing about this is a couple of shills who seem to work together have been trying that one on lately too, You are not are you WTH? No Rabbit expects you just noticed them trying it and neglected to notice how Rabbit responded. Now you know. By the way Rabbit lives in Southern Hemisphere. …
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Whatthehecks Idea of a fair fight. Ten of his mates armed to the teeth against One enemy who must be unarmed, naked and preferably with his hands tied as well. Oh and of course standing out in the open in the middle of the desert, so he is easy to see and kill without killing too many civilians. The civilians need to be around to enjoy the millions of years worth of radiation and the birth defects it is already causing. Rabbit is calm WTH, but he could very calmy garrot somebody with the above attitudes too. Stop jabbering about Kurds. …
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lready quoted and posted on another thread, so just a link. Get some REAL history into you WTH. http://www.lewrockwell.com/rogers/rogers178.html
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One more before Rabbit goes to bed. For all those who will see the sun who has recently left this side of the world. It was looking good when Rabbit last saw it guys, it should be along any moment now. This was too cool to not post. It's only 6:17 a.m. Central time, and President Bush is already facing his second question of the day about Karl Rove's legal troubles. "Does it worry you," NBC's Matt Lauer is asking him at a construction-site interview in Louisiana, that prosecutors "seem to have such an interest in Mr. Rove?" Bush blinks twice. …
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It is always easy to recognise that special Compassion, so unique to American Democracy. It is certainly a relief to see that these supporters of a Saddam Hussein and his Terrorist Nation have been brought to justice. It is partly because of people like VitW the USA had to attack Iraq in the first place, the traitors. ....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! and you can quote that..^^..
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"Maybe one day the war criminals will be doing the time in jail rather than the people trying to help the innocent victims." Don't hold your breath. This presupposes they would go quietly. Now what in all the actions of this Insane Junta has led you to believe they would ever choose the lesser of two evils, when given a choice? Mr Cheney Sir would you please give us the suitcase and the keys sir, and then go to prison for a long time.. George, give the nice man the button, give the man the button George and come down from …
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Who's next to be busted? or Who's next to be "LIBERATED"?
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When the muzzle comes off we can bite. If something needs muzzling, you might as well lock it up or kill it. Only insane and dangerous creatures should ever need muzzling of course.
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Scorpy as always putting words in other peoples mouths and attacking them thus.. "And Lagomorph, ever helpful, specifically and sarcastically states: >> May Kenneth Lay never be sent to prison for stealing billions. Now that’s “freedom.” << ...Crap, the Rabbit never said any such thing. Every thread you have ever been on you have made such spurious claims and everytime you are told the same thing. I said no such thing........CLOWN.! Why don't you read other peoples posts before you run off at the mouth like a weak western assh*le after a strong curry. As ever Scorpy spends most of his …
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We have discussed the Economy and Rabbit will just re-post a little something along these lines especially for Scorpy. Have a look at these two recent “speculative” articles on US economy. If you are any sort of businessman, as I think you mentioned once, it will not be necessary to point out that speculation is what economic forecasting is all about, so there is no points to be gained by pointing out that is is merely speculative. The Facts as presented in the articles and how they are interpreted is what counts. Pop Goes the Real Estate Bubble. Some are still …
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The rest of the world just decided the USA is not going to retain control of the internet.......What's going on, Scorpy, they are not towing the line....... Scorpy the world just "CONFISCATED" the internet from the USA. Uncle Sam is not happy, he made an angry face but the world said, give, and Sammy must give. http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0%2C16376%2C1585288%2C00.html What this means is that you don't call all the shots anymore, and that is a change. Just subtle hints here Scorpy but those who see with open eyes can see it clear as day.
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Most of your drivel is predictable Scorpy. Your understanding of Venezuala is on a par with your usual standards of comprehension of anything outside your own immediate experience. Your experience of Venezuala is probably about the same as Rabbit's but Rabbit's opinion is based upon an open minded evaluation of what those who actually "DO KNOW" say about it. A selection for your edification. Imperfect a story as it will tell, the evidence is in the eating. Venezuala is succeeding in ways that the USA still dreams about, but can only dream for now...................... The following shows not only that this …
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What makes Scorpy now adopt the new posture about Rabbit's opinions? When did Rabbit say he found anything attractive about the Euro. Pay close attention to this statement, because it is the first opinion I have offerred about the Euro or about the EU. Rabbit was living peacefully in Scandinavia, Danmark as it happens when the EU was still in it's earlier stages. The Euro was little more than an idea, at the time, the whole thing was in getting certain "key" nations to sign on the dotted line. Rabbit was one of the minority who stood up and vociferously challenged …
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Since we are on the subject Rabbit will expound a little more on his experience of the European economy, via an admittedly privelaged nation, Danmark. Generalisations about Europeans are doomed to failure, even more readily than generalisations about Americans or any group of people, the bigger the group. Nevertheless, a couple of things stand out. Europeans save money. They really do save money for a rainy day. In fact they work efficiently due to technology and attitude and they have great working conditions and hours, 35 hour week was/is the goal, and it was close even when Rabbit lived there. There …
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Or another government with about 65% of the popular vote......................IRAN....Another democratic government by the usual definition of the word. Our definition, Scorpy, not the definition of a fascist. Our definition is "elected by majority in a transparent election". 15 year olds can vote in Iran............... Scorpy
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IDIOT SCORPY, the sentence was sufficiently comprehensible that you got the meaninmg first time. You proved it you dunce. Incomprehensible would mean you didn't get it. You are a dingbat. Not for the first time Rabbit points out that he is not given to being greatly disturbed by you as a rule, and he certainly has never displayed the characteristic hysteria which accompanies Scorpy's weird blatherings. So get over your one line wonder, nobody else is clapping. The fool just blew himself out of the water as usual. The point that you make is also mine, dummy, you do indeed have …
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You sure do try to make your three clues stretch to a lot of imaginings Scorpy. AGAIN Rabbit must point out that Scorpy makes up a lot of things about what Rabbit says. Rabbit has not supported European anything, merely pointed out what is. Scorpy relies on ad hock reasoning, opinions unsuported by actual facts, gleaned from others. Whoever in fact says what he wants to hear. The fact of unemployment is not actually an indication of a strong or weak economy on its own Scorpy. The only thing which we are talking about is the future and why Scorpy has …
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Hooray for Eadora. Rabbit is always happy to see Eadora.. Wack that troll Eadora, he has had a lot but is still not softening up a bit. Has Eadaora seen the Natalie Vampire has been lured from her radioactive cave? She is a very odd one that NAT. Be well Eadora........................................^^..................
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No Scorpy you and the corrupt and inhumane regime you are cheerleader for will still be here. This means we'll still have plenty to complain about. You are the problem. You are a dangerous lunatic. You are a lunatic, this is shown by your postings. Assuming you have the vote, you are dangerous. Saddam could never have killed those babies without the help of the US government, read about it. Furthermore Scumbag, he is not around anymore and those babies are still dying at an even faster rate than they were under a sanctions crippled Baathist Government. So suck it up …
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From "How Long Can This Go On". Some fun facts for Scorpy to ignore. "UPI correspondent Martin Sieff reported on Oct. 7 that U.S. wounded jumped from 16.3 per day at the end of September to 28.5 per day at the beginning of October. Multiply that daily rate by 30 days and you get 855 wounded per month. Approximately half of these are wounded too seriously to return to combat" "Insurgents are killing Iraqi security personnel who are collaborating with the U.S. occupation at the rate of two or three hundred per month. The wounded numbers are much higher. Last month, …
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Hang on there Jon, all OK except References to Iran as noy being a democracy. Their recent elections were transparent, well attended and decisive. The international observers, (Who were unwelcome in USA) were satisfied that the process was all above board. This is important, because Iran and Venezuala are healthier democracies than the USA and Rabbit has been making this point all along.
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As for WWII Rabbit has ignored Scorpy's claims that it was a US won war. He obviously doesn't know that Britain Australia, New Zealand and remnants of armies from many European countries as well were fighting that War for years before US invovlement. The Germans had been stopped and were being bled by the time the USA joined the party. Details of history which have no relevance on Scorpy's brief cartoon histories. Scorpy got all his info about WWII from old recruiting posters sounds like. As for the Japs, Aussies and New Zealanders as well as Pommies did the daily drudge …
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Yes Scorpy you are right, of coursae you know more about us than we do ourselves, so it is good we have you to tell us we are panicking. As for Scorpy he is still sailing onwards in his ship of delusions like the fool his mother raised. Good onya Scorpy. Here is a little something repeated for you again from another thread you ran away from with your tail where your hand usually is. By the way. Lest anybody forget, Rabbit is an Aussie. His Grandfather fought the Japanese and Rabbit has not been brought up to love the Japanese. …
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Posted by GhostRabbit on October 13, 2005 at 9:41 PM from HERE . More from Mike Rogers “Japan attacked the United States first.” “If you mean that the Japanese bombed the military base of Pearl Harbor, before the US bombed the Japanese, then this is a difficult question to answer (see #1 below). If you mean that Japan committed acts of war against the United States first, then the answer is a definitive, “No!” The United States committed at least two acts of war under international law against Japan before December 7, 1941. They were: US military pilots – 40 from …
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Hi Eadora This software challenged site does not provide that service, as David points out. Most around here would probably not be adverse to providing their contact if asked anyway.
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Jon That is an eminently sensible and considered post, it never ceases to amaze how such straight forward honest common sense can be spurned by others. It will be, just watch.
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Scorpy would know about as much about Anarcho-Socialism as he knows about anything else, except his own navel. He's already been told by amny why his ideas are useless, they are based on a very onesided and limited view of history. ...............................................................^^...........................................
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What a quaint world Scorpy lives in, every time Rabbit reads his posts, Rabbit feels like he is in a time warp. Talking to someone who is actually living in the 1980's still. he has before referred to the need to bring "others" into the "Tentieth" century. Perhaps he is an evil timelord?
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OK best not to give the troll any little toys. Correction. He (Scorpy) has before referred to the need to bring “others” into the “Twentieth” century. .....................................................Perhaps he is an evil timelord?
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This is how well off the food is Scorpy. The Coming Starvation of America http://www.rense.com/general67/starve.htm ------------------------------------------- Have a read up on how well your little war freedom and improved conditions for the poor victims of Saddams predations. Scorpy Check out your war. Iraqi Resistance Report - GRIM for somebody. http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/66432 ------------------------------------------- Have a look at how the LIES are doing dow-under, SCORPY. NO Muslim Terrorist Organisations in Indonesia http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C5744%2C16898139%255E29277%2C00.html --------------------------------------------- See what is in the news in other countries, even your allies Scorpy. Iraq descended into anarchy. http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article319160.ece --------------------------------------------- The real reason the hated court appointed Fascist President Bush wants to …
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HI Eadora.............................................Hoppy Happy Rabbit sees you. It is Saturday morning, the sun is shining downunder and the small Rabbit and I are at the factory selling kayaks. How is Eadora.?
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Glad is rabbit he has not got the only Gremlins on the Block. His Wonky Computer has been up to a new kind of crashing the last few days, but Rabbit will ignore it as always, it soon goes away or settles into a pattern which is easy to recognise and avoid. Best to live and let live, even with Computer glitches is Rabbit's office motto. Mrs rabbit sometimes interferes and everything gets fixed and tidead and it takes many months for things to feel "right" again. It's the Electrons we have to give attention to. There are so many of …
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Scorpy everyone knows you are a hysterical ball of bombastic delusions. You are a hypocritical fascist and you have never done more than repeat isolated one-sided versions of history. You have never offered anything but your word to back up anything you say and we already know that you have nothing except a standard set of Ditto ideas. The majority of people on this site are vastly better educated than you, we are actually aware of all your historical examples but we can also place them in relation to the rest of history. For us the world does not start and …
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By the way Scorpy the fool, "OLD" Europe, (What constitutes New Europe?) is not going the way of socialism.. You sure do have some wacky ideas, the deeper the ditto, the stupider it gets. EU - Europe, Old New and middle aged, is actually an example of the ultimate capitalist state. Much the same as the USA eventually. They are just starting with the bureacracy at high revs. It is inevitably going to be another great Fascist State like the USA has become. Inevitably though it is an even bigger state and will out-compete the USA economically speaking. It is happening …
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Eadora has shown you for the GOATHEAD you are Scorpy, yet again. As Eadora points out the USA is very much into subsidies, it is the single thing anybody in the rest of the world thinks when thinking of US agricultural policies. You subsidise, nobody else may. No matter how many of our lines you steal you wizened minded creep, you are still talking shit, lying through your rotten teeth and spruiking for Fascism.
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Here is a good article I think. Don't you read it Scorpy, it is absolutely not for your eyes. It is secret Lefty crap so don't go peeking. Why would you want to see it anyway, you never read any sourcve we usually post, so DON'T read this one. http://www.rense.com/general68/tom.htm
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Noteworthy dates in 20th-Century American history: 1917 - When World War I began. 1918 - When the U.S. won World War I. 1941 - When World War II began. 1945 - When the U.S. won World War II.
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Eadora is going to crush you twerp, but if she is too busy Rabbit will gladly do so on her behalf. Even new comers to the site are fascinated by such a twat as what you are. You are such a stubborn little moron you are liable to become a tourist attraction Scorpy.
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Much as Rabbit would relish the chance of replying to it, this Moron is Eadora's now, DO give it an extra wack for Rabbit though, Eadora.
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Just for the great economic sage Scorpy is re-posted this Rabbit just posted in another thread. Has we seen the news about Gates? Bill Gates has just dumped his US reserves......................................and changed to EUROs. Where is Scorpy? ..............OUCH.......... Venezuala dropped their 5 Billion or whatever they had and went Euro the other day, but that is a drop in the bucket to Gates’ 46 Billion! “The dollar fell 21 percent against a basket of six major currencies from the start of 2002 to the end of last year. The trade deficit swelled to a record $609.3 billion last year and total …
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SELF IRONY AT ITS BEST. scorpy says the following with a straight face. "You ...........have no thought in your head except to criticize those who bring democracy and economic well-being to the world. So stick your thumb in your ear and your finger up your butt, and complain all you want to; you don’t have anything better to do any way." This must be for you Scorpy,....................for only you have your ear sufficiently close to your hole so as to be able to achieve such a feat one handed...................... at the same time as having one hand free to type on …
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Hi Eadora............do the for rabbit please, when you get the time............ here is the ref for gates, but it should be up there already. just for eadora Rabbit will post it as a Hyperlink....................hee hee...........................
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Dam it all got ruined. The url is http://tinyurl.com/7kyu7 as can be seen mid in the failed post.
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This is not a thread where Rabbit has anything to contribute beyond mentioning all the same things could be translated to Oz and said of our schools also, this is being said as a generalisation of the main direction of the thread's discourse. ...................^^......................
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Rabbit saw some info on demographics of enlistment as it happens, hopefully can sniff it out, and come back. .. Are you sure you don't want to stick with the God thing? You were always such a fan of God before, what has happened?
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fatherof2 It is really loathesome when people just jump up and defend immoral practices espceially by the military and government. Especially when they make grandly idiotic claims that "The Left" is trying to destroy the military. Heh smarty, the military does the destroying, and that includes with and for the left. People like you who will defend anything at all if it seems like the warped standard of mindless loyalty you espouse and practice. Families are telling the truth to fight a stupid and immoral war, begun on lies and run on lies and innocent lives. The fallen are not exactly …
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Gray some of Rabbit's posts are being eaten by the machine, just lost a reply. Rabbit understands that the words used are very disturbing to hear, they are not easy for Rabbit to say and they are said with a sense of awe at the same time as a sense of shock and outrage. It is not outrage at the soldiers who could as easily have been Rabbit or his Sons. It's the DU, it is and will be dealt with as War crime one day. The thing about these kind of things is that a soldier can follow an illegal …
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On the minorities Gray......... Rabbit was going to say it is perhaps fair they get less exposure to being dead, it is less their war than the white man's........... Said with all due Irony of course.................^^.............Your figures will do Rabbit and the small discrepancy is not significant to warrant further mention,............... probably ...................not!
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We in Oz also have dissent woven even more thoroughly into our characters. We are in an equally well prepared NWO pie, and with about as much of a chance of getting out of it. Read almost none. Due to a largely submissive Sheeple Factor. We can dissent all we want, but without organisation, to bring unity and a clear alternative, we like you will achieve nothing but a change of Emperor for the Clothes. . You will end up with a Clinton, again, or a Kerry, or someone equally determined to continue the "WAR ON TERROR". . We will get …
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Stop being a gutless puke and read Rabbit's ;ast post. Answer it if you can. . Then suck on this.----VICIOUS little PUPPY . http://www.rense.com/general67/dossa.htm . Many Middle Eastern countries are ruled by puppets on the American payroll. Even the Saudis are under American protection. If there is oppression in the Middle East, it is because U.S. puppets and protectorates are doing what the U.S. government wants, not what the people they rule want. The Middle East is in despair because almost a century after the First World War freed Arabs from Turkish occupation, they still cannot get free of U.S. and …
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WOLF you are completely off your rocker, How the hekll can you write this. " . "and by we, should that be just the US or a real international community?" . ....No you fool a more appropriate question is should the US be allowed to dictate to the international community, and the answer is actually rhetoric, clown. The international community has had to consider it's problems without the USA for thje USA has excluded itself from the international community in so many things. You just don't get it, you don't dictate who the international community is, we are here, BOZO and …
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David do you think you could point out the silly nature of the WOLFS last post, the first bit I see is as weird as the second and could do with sorting out, it might be nice to see someone else's take on WOLF's WISDOM . "My metaphor for Iraq is one of a domestic disturbance. The father was beating the hell out of the wife and kids, and the US (police) intervened (as it turns out, the WMD were absent, but the plastic shredders were real). Some of the family is glad to see us, but the brutes and bullies …
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By the way Kuya. . The sad fact is that any 'discussion' with Trolls turns out becoming somewhat abusive, because without the normal logic, honesty or reason required in a debate, once all logical avenues are exhausted there remains no desire in the reasonable one to be polite towards the Troll or Fool. rabbit does ondeed distinguish between Trolls and Shills, as compared to mere dittoheads. The former, he seeks to say what low-lifes they are in singularly creative and artistic ways. So as to at least add entertainment value to the necessary tedium of having to strike squarely on a …
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Wolf, . Rabbit does believe you are getting it. The beauty of it is you'll still be able to use the old slogans, they'll just have actual meaning instead of cruel irony. . Rabbit cannot give you even the small satisfaction of agreeing "If we did nothing, Iraq would be in terrible shape now". If America had done nothing, at what point exactly? . When they helped arm and support Saddam Hussein? When they encouraged him to attack Kuwait, who was stealing Iraqi Oil, via slant drilling? When they enforced brutalising Sanctions as a means of crippling Iraq over the decade …
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David . Rabbit thinks you have clinched the metaphor, very picturesque and accurate. . What about raping the wife, children and dog and selling pictures of it all on the net?
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Then screwed it. . Dead dog live dog, so long as it's still warm.. . What was it we were talking about again.?
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“Evil men obsessed with ambition and unburdened by conscience must be taken very seriously, and we must stop them before their crimes multiply.” Damn it the bastard keeps taking all our best lines!
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fatherof2 are you insane? Things have been posted above nd Rabbit shall repeat. The Shah, was a ratbag. Rabbit personally knows some ex-Shahs Guard, and good friends as they are, Rabbit knows more than he needs about what things were like under the Shah. You cannot talk to Rabbit about things of which you know nothing. The leader who would have been popularly elected by the people of iran and which would have seen an entirely different outcome for the Middle East and Iran specifically, was murdered by US agents. The Iranians had never been antagonistic to the USA before that, …
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Rabbit looks by and goes Stompy Stomp stomp.......................Have not forgotten this promise and soon, these threads are long lived and are nice for that..............................................................Know nothing ignoramus armchair bloody historians. At least make an effort to verify your main contentions, garnered from watching the TV News no more .............. Angry Foot..............
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Hi WTH, Rabbit likes the first part of what you are saying a lot. Was feeling warm in the toes, but then we get a little wobbly, and Rabbit would respectfully like to show why he thinks this. "The radical Muslims don’t see nations which include religious categories — they see a religion which includes national categories" ... The Radical Americans don't see Nations which include religious and political categories - they see a Nation which represents a Religious category. .......If that comparison does not stop you in your tracks WTH, back up and examine the legitimacy of our separate statements. …
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BTW Jay is at the God Squad, and Wolf at Dialogue. Check them out and see if you want to keep sharing opinions with these guys. Never mind that you can express yourself more clearly and have a better explanation as to how the dots join, are your opinions on some things any more substantial than theirs? .. It is a VERY good question, WTH. .. If Rabbit saw the man with the exterminators Van coming he would look to his nearest companions just to ensure they were not all Rats, we don't look that much different to the exterminator, and …
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"You could say we are say we are caught between Iraq and a hard place." ...... The pun is fun and forgiven, but the Hard place is one of own making still.
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WTH "However, in this country we still have the Constitutional freedom to say (and not act on) stupid things." .... The Muslim Clerics who spout fundmentalist crap are no different WTH the situation is the same. The Fundy cleric spouts hate, a few of his followers cheer and the country says don't worry about it most of us are not that stupid. That is what happens WTH. Just like in America. The difference is that America starts demanding the cleric be handed over, then they call for sanctions against the luckless country who has such a dimwitted cleric in its borders. …
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Saddam used the nerve gas provided to him by the USA on the Kurds and he used co-ordinates supplied to him by the USA to target those weapons against Kurds and Iranians. At the time he was doing this he was best friends of the USA and all these things were being protested by Rabbit and others, where were you? Since all of Saddams worst acts were done while he was USA close friend, don't you think you have surrendered the right to claim any moral high ground on it's behalf? There is no point in raising another incident to counter …
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WTH this is just sheer Paranoic lunacy... "We did not attack during the decades of attacks previous to the attack on 9/11. I’m in favor of preemptive attacks on any and all known terrorist training camps and the governments which support them." .. What decades of attacks? minor bombings here and there by various small factions. Some of whom are religious nuts and some of whom have secular grievances with the USA which you will not ever admit. These attacks were not by any country or even centrally controlled organisation. 911 is not confirmed as is known the official Conspiracy Theory …
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The reason some Iraqis wanted to move to America is because like many Americans they believed all the false propaganda which makes the USA out to be some sort of democratic and materialistic paradise of freedom. It sounded pretty enticing to people who were living in countries which were struggling with many problems and some of which were of US creation. The actual Fact is that these days there are far fewer people who want to become Americans, the interest fro moving to the uSA is drying up fast as the reality on the ground is becoming known. There are more …
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Not at all WTH. Nobody who had an opinion worthy of respect; ie. based on sourced facts, ever called Rabbit such things. They still haven't so Rabbit is still missing that concept. Now when you can only repeat unprovable stories while being faced with provable evidence that the stories are wrong, have you any idea of how pathetic and desperate you sound? If Rabbit is so pompous why does he bother to be pleasant to you when what you are saying is not really worthy of intelligent debate? Anyway it doesn't matter WTH because Rabbit is right and you are wrong …
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Why is it when others like Rabbit search your words for something substantial enough to discuss, you search our posts for some meaningless lines of prose which merely give tone and nuance? Have you not got much experience debating with adults WTH? What is your problem with seeing an idea through from saying it, to illustrating it and then defending it with your mind and reason? Why do you avoid all but the most superficial treatment of issues and shy away into personal attacks when confronted with FACTS or a demand for some from you?
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It seems to be escaping your notice too WTH every one of Rabbit's posts to you contain specific questions, most relevant to the issue at hand, so where do you get off ignoring such basic courtesy? Patience is a virtue and Rabbit who needs all the virtue he can get will be patient with you yet, WTH because you once showed power to reason. If you face the Rabbit questions like a man you might soon alter your opinion of Rabbit who actually is probably a Man you would not be ashamed to call friend. If there was any less arrogant …
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About time someone mentioned PNAC, these Conservative clowns need to learn about that one. They keep saying how "They would never do such things" which the bastards already said they were going to do.
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What should be mentioned on the same matter, Krusty, is that exactly the same stunts are being duplicated in the instance of Iran. . The same scumbag trolls who were pusing the lies then are here pusing them today. Bush is a PIG but no less than many of his followers. . Rabbit too wishes he could be more brief, works at it.
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WTH is not a Troll, let there be no understanding, Rabbit never says this and does not want to be misunderstood BTW. . WTH won't you look at those threads Rabbit mentioned? even if silently for now, think about it,........... Rabbit wants your soul........(For the good fight)
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Perhaps we could somehow rig up his and coffins of other such men of vision to generators and at least power the cemetary lights? A few good paragraphs of Douglas Herman's "I get the feeling that our "master strategists" in this rogue republic—Rove, Rice, Perle, Wolfowitz, the PNAC crowd—rarely played Risk, or any other game for that matter. Instead they decided to align themselves with a couple of other upstart outlaw nations--England and Israel—to conquer the Middle East. Only problem? Those damn Middle Easterners don’t want to be conquered. The Afghans weren't sophisticated enough to know they were defeated, never having …
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Saddam didn't make the war you idiot. It was your democracy which failed and made war by this definition. David you are wasting your time with this clown. He is a robot. If Jay ever gets around to getting an education he will learn that hitler was largely led/pushed into a war, he was little more than a pawn for others as it happened. He was a man, just like Shrub is a man. He is remembered as some kind of monster, for the same reasons which Bush has already claimed the title, MONSTER. This too has been among people who …
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Liberal, you sound like you doubt a showing, from the GWB brigade? .... .. They'll be along as onn as the taunt cools a little... Go easy on WTH he may be peeping between those eyelids a bit evry now and then, he has potential yet and this is not said in aggrresion. WTH is respectfully requested to come now, for the sort of showdown which he may wish to use as his own final hurdle. WTH is a right thinker amongst the wrong right. His handle alerted Rabbit from the moment the dust settled enough from the Dragon skirmish on …
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WOLF say: -----"Yes war is Hell. Yes horrible things happen in war. Yes the soldiers on the US side also did some unbelievably horrible things. All true. Too true" ............ Therefore at the very least you are admitting Americans are no better than every body else. This is not consistent with your accustomed attitude which automatically grants USA more favoured staus in the credibility stakes. So your hollow platitudes are also your undoing. ----"But let’s be fair. Let us not forget the atrocities committed by both sides, in every conflict. Let us not think we are *that* different from the other …
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The people who would do such things you TURD are the people who you are defending, you are trying to deny these things, now you have been shown the results of your lies and delusions in most graphic fashion.. .. You....chose your side scumbag.....Rabbit was arguing this stuff with you before and you just wanted to deny it! You have been denying the next round of photos and videos was anything significant, well as Liz so rightly points out, the ship haas docked, your cargo is being unloaded on the dock, Mr WOLF. It will be delivered to you , on …
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OH and WOLF what do you know about getting information in any way? . The simple fact is that torture has been historically proven to be the most innefective means of obtaining "RELIABLE" information. . Reliable information, becomes an oxymoron when torture is involved. . Without fail, anybody, with very few exceptions quickly tries to find out what it is the torturer wants to hear and tell him this. Seldom does this achieve the desired end, that of avoiding torture, so the torture is increased. It is inevitable that the "victim" will contradict himself and others under such conditions and that …
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CRIKEY . Rabbit has inadvertantly closed a few threads in his time, but what happened?.....................Rabbit is not an ex Stasi or KGB torturer, he only knows these things as the truth, not because he ever tortured anyone.....................Guys, guys?....where did we go? . I know WOLF, cause you are on another thread, it came as a shock when you thought about it like this didn't it?.. . If this is the begginning of seeing the light Wolf, Rabbit salutes you, well done. . The truth can hurt. . Nobody ever promised you a Rose Garden. Right now it is a stinking pile …
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One small point in retrospect. . Wolf it seems unlikely that the soldiers raping boys are heterosexuals carrying out orders, if you were implying anybody thought this. Even Liberals can figure out that homosexual men would rape boys, and there are such or even bisexuals in the Army. . There are also no doubt plenty of Trisexuals. . They will try anything. . . The point is, a humanely administered and in control military would never allow any such treatment to get beyond a few very isolated incidents. That is explainable and to be expected. We have long since crossed the …
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...............................................................................^^...................BOO...............hee hee.................scampers away Rabbit............... (Haven't we done this one? same pic anyway)
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Rabbit thinks that discussions should be more grouped about several artcles on same subject. Often the same issues are being dealt with under different examples, which is cool too of course. It just seems like a dissipation of energy so to speak. Is the aim to discuss for discussion's sake? or is it too much to push for discussion with the aim of unifying debate to a core resolution. .blah blah....And other inspiring stuff...you know?...
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Of course the reality being he was really fully engaged and doing everything he could to help the victims. ------------- Good Point Wolf "And in politics, perception is often more important than reality" ............... It was just a false perception that he was eating cake and ignoring the whole mess for as long as possible. ............... Your perception is invaluable as usual.
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God I wish we "liberals" could see things so clearly. ... We are all so wrapped up in our hatred of Bush and his Junta of professional criminals, we just can't ever see anything good about Bush. .............. Lucky we have enlightened folks like you guys to set us straight. ............... What was the last thing he did right again? Rabbit in his silliness has forgotten again. What did Bush do right last time? .............. Please remind us O perceptive ones.
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Baah!
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Scorp dear lad what is it with you and assuming others are panicking? Rabbit is a most un-panicky fellow, trust me on this. .......... Aries are not as a rule prone to panic for that matter. ......... Rabbit gets around saying the truth, examining things with people, sometimes changes his views of things and often learns new things. Rabbit has never been other than fully engaged in all he does, what rabbit says is deliberate and Scorp should by now know that it just sounds over-weening to suggest Rabbit is anything but a calm and reasoned and articulute and honest Rabbit. …
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Just a quick one, as Rabbit passes by again in a hurry, and in case you drop by again also. Promise to get back to your post for it is now Half read and interests Rabbit, I know its only short but Rabbit reads thoughtfully and carefully when he recognises some trying to do the same. .. Question, and it is not a leading one, don't need to get into it now, ...... What is Scorps feelings about Depleted Uranium as a Weapon of War?... Not asked for any other reason than curiosity at this stage, (mostly want to be sure …
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After you Scorp?
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AH HA! Thank you. .. No actually DU was a settled issue until attempts of a recent nature have been made to turn around sixty years of science and bury the last few years of evidence of just how deadly and evil this stuff is. No sane or rational person would argue in favour of those conditions outlined above. ... Sorry SCORP the gig is up. The Chinese thing could have shown an open mind, but you actually supported the True US government position on China, even though this is not the publically presumed one. This was a puzzle for Rabbit …
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More of those two million plus victims actually died because of US forced sanctions too David, the children part.
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That was Rabbit's meaning, but can see it wasn't clearly enough said. . Rabbit agrees about the UN, off topic but the EURO vs DOALLARS is probably the Hegellian Dialectic of Illuminati again too. .. Now to cop a "Moon Batting", after such ill considered public words.
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Rabbit likes Moon Bats too and has a similar image Liz. Encourages adoption of a word to lovely to be offensive. Too lovely for a Rethuglican to have thought of. . Only a thug would think such a term offensive. . Look at Jay on the next thread who resorts to calling Rabbit...............BUNNY FACE........hee hee. .. You are always welcome to break up any unpleasant discussions, for a moment of remembering why we are right and left and the other side is just wrong.
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Rabbit is not interested Scorp. You are a Shill. DU has been dealt with on another thread and there is nothing new to add. Like Rabbit said Scorp, SHILL. Nobody else could push the DU lie. . Obviously Scorp would not consider a Dirty Bomb set off by so called "terrorists" to be a worse attack than a conventional bomb then? Depleted Uranium is just that you damned idiot. You are a Shill and as such are beneath contempt Scorp. Put simply, F*CK YOU. . You are such a damned fool. There are no lurid web sites depicting imagined effects of …
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Weaponized Ceramic Uranium Oxide Gas betrays the motives of its users in the US military and its advocates in politics, government and society. Just as surely as the Nazi’s poisonous hydrogen cyanide gas does for an impartial war crimes investigator. . . Rabbit will cut and paste relevant bits from elsewhere to deal with you Scorpy, you are the one who wanted to play with the stuff. . Here are a few of those lurid web sites Scorp mentions. . United Nations: http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/(Symbol)/7afeec7003489bb780 02567550045e27a?Opendocument http://www.unhchr.ch/Huridocda/Huridoca.nsf/(Symbol)/E.CN.4. .Sub.2.2002.38.En?Opendocument http://www.unep.org/pdf/iraq_ds_lowres.pdf Scientific: http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/landing.asp?id=1243 Now if there was any real scientific organisation in the world who …
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Scorp says depleted uranium is less radioactive than uranium. All depleted uranium is, is uranium that has had most of the U235 taken out of it (the stuff needed for fission chain reactions in bombs and nuke plants). Since U235 occurs in nature at about 2 percent of all uranium, with U238 accounting for about 98 percent of any sample, depleting it has very little effect on total radioactivity, though it’s true that U235 is a bit more radioactive than U238. But again, it’s not the radioactivity alone, or even primarily, that is what makes depleted uranium so dangerous. . .Only …
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DU remains in the environment for many years after testing or combat use and can reach humans through a variety of pathways, including soil, air, drinking water, and food. - At the former Jefferson Proving Ground in Indiana, DU has entered the food chain and been found in deer, clams, and fish. (Lockheed Analytical Services) - DU was found in Kosovo over two years after its use there. Researchers found localized DU contamination at 10,000 times normal, found DU contaminated with plutonium, and found evidence of airborne movement of DU dust. (United Nations Environment Programme) - Investigators found widespread DU contamination …
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WIKIPEDIA - saves you looking it up even Scorpy. .. . “In 1996 and 1997, the United Nations Human Rights Commission in Geneva, passed a resolution to ban the use of depleted uranium weapons. The Subcommission adopted resolutions which include depleted uranium weaponry amongst “weapons of mass and indiscriminate destruction, ... incompatible with international humanitarian or human rights law.” (Secretary General’s Report, 24 June 1997, E/CN. 4/Sub.2/1997/27) A UN report of 2002 states that DU weapons also potentially breach each of the following laws: The Universal Declaration of Human Rights; the Charter of the United Nations; the Genocide Convention; the Convention …
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Poor old Scorpy what is it with you and panic. Those posts took about 5 minutes to aasemble Scorpy. Rabbit is sitting in his office with a warm muffin and morning Coffee. Your don't panic line must really have impressed yourself or maybe you are giving away your own fears again. Who knows? Who Cares? Rabbit only cares that the truth is here. Your lies and propaganda doesn't stand up to any scrutiny. Your words are quite familiar to many, we've heard them before, every Dittohead who drops in says the same thing. You have no Facts worthy of basing your …
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Would Scorp care to explain, why the Penatgon will not test the returned veterans as is being demanded by them, cicil rights groups and various members of government? . The source you give is of little use, because it obviously has gone to lengths to ignore the CRITICAL Uranyl problem, that is where the real danger lies and that is why this is where you concentrate your lies. . Did you check all the roughly seven hundred references available via WIKIPEDIA Scorpy? How many of these were lying lefty sites Scorpy? all 700 of them maybe? Of course they don't all …
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Scorpy , there is no doubt at all that if Rabbit had a choice between having a 500 gram bit of DU Shrapnel in his guts for life, or breathe in 1 gram of Ceramic Uranium Oxide Vapour. Do you know why SCORPY? Sure you do, that is why you only want to talk about a few dozen soldiers with a few grams of Shrapnel in them. . Rabbit is confident that the half Kilo of DU might cause some cancer and might shorten Rabbits life and lower it's quality a bit. Rabbit knows for sure however that the 1 gram …
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Scorp by the way since you asked it was the silly slogans you used to do and not debating with at least a semblance of coherance as you do these days. . There never was any variation in your views, there seldom is between Dittoheads. That is part of the definition. . No offence we are all what we are. .
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Rabbit is going to say his opinion here and it is given in deference to no-one. Rabbit comes from a Mormon Family. Mum and Dad, Sister and her family, they are all totally committed to their faith. Rabbit was at one time a member and is an Elder, though ex-communicate. Rabbit lives not far from his Mormon Family. Rabbit knows something about fundamentalist Christians. They are if anything as insane and irrational and bloodthirsty as the most fundamentalist Muslim or Jew. Despite being Rabbit's mother and Sister they can see nothing past their own long term and complete blindness to all …
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Whattheneck Rabbit knows too there are things worth killing for and worth dyiong for, but you are in my territory if we start them. These things have been defined by Rabbit as Ideals and they are listed as Love (Family), Shelter, Food and a Future for our children. Every living creature has the same ideals and they are the only things worth killing for or risk being killed for. Yet many people support actions and even perform actions which threaten their own ideals in a very real and even immediate sense. The only way this could happen is if those people …
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Hi Liz Combination Rabbit. Soul is Rabbit Year (Chinese astrology). Inspiration is a Dwarf Black Rex, Rabbit looks most like Christopher Robins Rabbit, bit Grey not so cute as the Rex. ..............Rabbit likes Liz too, someone who stops to smell the roses, Rabbit and Missus Rabbit went for a bike ride around the Swan River this afternoon. Could smell the honeysuckle and other wildflowers along one path at one point, so sweet...........................^^.................
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Can see the scene not sure if Rabbit seen Angela's ashes though. Like when I saw "Once we were wariors", Rabbit saw the whole Maori thing and so familiar. Such ideas are bound to resonate, Rabbit has seen and read much and is only a simple Rabbit so has not made up anything new yet. Just find old things lying around, sometimes they just need a bit of polish or a better setting and something old and even ancient can seem like a new idea. People dig new ideas. They think if they can get enough ideas then they will be …
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Yes but Mrs Rabbit is so in name only, the doe is actually a Snake, but a cute Danish one and three healthy Kittens show a good union has been achieved. Must go home and have dinner, after will be looking by in about an hour, to see if the God Squad has arrived. Is Liz waiting for the God Squad too?
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Now upon re-reading that gives one heck of a weird image for kittens doesn't it? Rabsnattens? Rakes? ....................................^^..............................Daft Rabbit hops off for something to eat.....
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Rabbit is an Aussie Rabbit. Irish Scottish ancestry. The internet is a good medium of exchange and Rabbit is a citizen of any medium he cares to enter. How can anybody NOT be in the thick of events of the magnitude of that we are witnessing? The only difference is perception. Rabbit is small, somehow the World does not seem to be so big though. Have lived and travelled a bit and many things and places feel close when they are no longer strange. From whence cometh the good Liz?
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Kuya Have read Rabbit post about Mormon family? This is the sort of people who form the God Squad. They are among the core of the last supporters of "The Junta". These ones are in Westren Autralia too, it is no further away from Rabbit than he must face the same insane radicals in his house too. (Not for a while though after the last round, thinks I) Rabbit knows them well and there are many examples. They have even less of a coherant argument than the Right wing Dittos and Morons we see around here. These God Squad people are …
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The horror was it was so easy to convince them Bush is their messiah. He says God and Jesus a couple of times and even though he's never even been seen in a church he is their great Christian Leader. Lets be quite clear about this Wwoods this is a truly incredible , most surreal situation we are witnessing. Does it ver strike you as it does Rabbit, this just cannot be happening? I am going to wake up any day and everything will make sense again? Up will be up, day will be day and left and right will at …
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Bonny Prince Charles had a bastard son in Ireland if I recall. Rabbit got into it with the school bullies evrywher. Glasses, non-conformist, bookworm, but saild an sawm lots on weekends. Rabbit kicked their arses at each school, then went back to being the school outcast. Could never give any noitice to all the "Suckholes" who were always so ready to transfer loyalty to the new "Tough Kid". Never made the grade as a tough kid, just a Bully Basher. Have noted the book, don't know if it's anything like it but Bryce Courtenay's "Power of one" inspired and Richard Bach's, …
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WTH the thing about fundamentalists and confronting them needs more discussion, Rabbit agrees but needs to extend this to mean all fundamentalists, in this case especially the Christian ones. It is first and foremost our duty to confront our fundamentalists. The Muslims are quite willing and capable of dealing with their fundemenatlists if give a chance. The problem begins when our fundamentalists get control as they have, and obviously it gets worse when their fundy's get the reigns. What can be seen in the ME as we speak is that the very act of allowing our fundys to call the shots …
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Hi James there is nothing in whatyou say which Rabbit would disgree with. Self many years as LDS member and have retained great respect for the Church. Rabbit is well aware about LDS Church policy too. Indeed many members consider Rabbits menbtioned family to be over the top. The thing about it though is that it is one of the Christian faiths which is susceptible to Wing-nutism. Rabbit would never say that all Christianity or all of any doctrine leads to fundamentalism. My point is that the fundamentalists, God Squad, for short, come out from the bowels of religion and as …
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On the Scottish thing, again (won't swear by this, it is what Rabbit remembers Granny telling him as a weeny one) A french born servant had a small one to Charles who was as far back as we could go. The wife is a descendant of the Danish "Gorm the old". Much celtic and viking blood in Rabbits family. Proud Freedom Barbarians, but strong supporters of village life. The things we will be examining in detail WTH will be 911 especially in relation to Iraq. We need to examine the differences certain scenarios would have on our opinions in these instances. …
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Actually since this alone could be the Paradigm shifting thing for you WTH, and because Rabbit's coffee is still hot. ............ The information needs to be shared and things re-considered in that light to actually make the full jump, but this idea should give one such as you pause WTH. ...... Consider that here are numerous people with whom you have interacted, on this site and others of a "Left" persuasion. We have all shown ourslevs to be varied and most clearly have a lot of clues and superb reasoning skills. The fact that we really care, is shown in our …
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If Rabbit ever comes across as arrogant it can maybe be traced back to this attitude of his, which cannot actually define left anfd right as anything more than adverbs. The fact is that when Rabbit looks at those who are furthest to the left, they are small in number and dwindling, often re-adjusting their vies over life, what is often called left is no more than the abandonment of many old ideas and an opening up to many new possibilities. The process may be left wing, but the result is typically much more balanced, someone like Rabbit for instance. The …
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Sorry long.... "a lot MORE reason and ability to discuss and find compromise, amongst those of a more “Leftist” persuasion." Rabbit removes foot from mouth...........^^.......
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Back in a couple of hours David. Want to go into the basics with WTH for Rabbit feels we have found the gate between our two fields.
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For WTH, start... .. The left wing are in a better position to be able to accept the views Rabbit and many others here espouse, that is perhaps because the right has the problem we seem to be facing from within it's own ranks. Permit this humble observation. It is entirely natural that such a problem as we describe would be harder to discern the closer one was to it. Logical? This does not say that WTH is part of the problem except in an indirect sense by supporting their aims. The ideas are not actually left wing either, they are …
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Now the usual response to this is to point at some obscure incidents of small groups of people dancing in the streets in Middle Eastern Countries. These instances were few and far between but were given maximum coverage by MSM. They were neither typical nor were they presented in context. Some of the footage was actually from Israel, where there was not only some dancing in the streets by shall we say ‘mixed’ groups of people, one or two of the top ministers of Israel expressed satisfaction that America would now realise their plight at least. Those dancing in the streets …
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There is speculative stuff at the end there, but it remains to bring this into Rabbit’s argument. No matter what reasonable viewpoint of those on offer about 911, there is one thing that nobody can say about it. There is no justification here for an attack on any Muslim country, let alone Iraq who was a secular thorn in the side to Fundamentalist forces in the region. There was never any credible reason given to go after Bin Laden if the facts are examined, without the rhetoric. Most of the evidence which has since arisen which links Muslim Extremists to the …
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Take away the genuine grievances from the long suffering people of the Middle east and if all you have left is a bunch of fanatics full of intolerance and hate, the Muslims will soon shove those swine back in the box. They don’t want them either, but when our Christian Extremists manage to hijack the ship of state, or the Hijacked ship of state is given a Christian Mascot, then it is hardly surprising that the Muslims are going to be driven into the arms of extremists, since they are offering the only sort of resistance they feel will work to …
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That is the surreal part though, that they just cannot be reasoned with. It is a scary thought Kuya but it is hard to avoid concluding that the only way to deal with fundys is, with vuiolence. Not a problem before, but shit, they've got the bomb now dude. They've got the flaming Button, and they are not afraid to use it. Jesus Christ mate these maniacs want to bloody use it. They scare the bejesus out of Rabbit, I can tell you, and Rabbit is an Gnostic. Please don't mistake Agnostics with Atheists. We are the opposites as it happens. …
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Rabbit would appreciate any help going on the Radioactive wounds of war thread. The most determined yet outed shills are preaching death and evil and resort to complaints (False) to stifle opposition as well as every dirty shilling trick known to man. What is more it is an issue most any body from any political persuasion around here can agree on thinks Rabbit. Thread is long but it has certain unique features as will be seen..
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Wolf there are those of us on this thread who are probably better informed about Christian doctrine and bible than you. ............ Rabbit has previously known you to spit hellfitre and brimstone, you are very ready to do the "Vengeful God" act, remember I've seen it in full flight. ........... Like many self deluding Christians you talk about a loving God and yet you seem to revel in the blood and guts at every opportunity. .......... Now that the God Squad Cheerleader is here, we can really begin. .. Rabbit has been calling you Wolf, what kept you? ................. Wolf, Rabbit …
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James There is a tremendous amount of truth in the fundy view of what is happening. The question of course becomes which came first the chicken or the egg. Prophecies have a immense creative power, the more who believe, the more that power grows. This is partly why usually the seer cannot absolutely say what will be. The fact remains that such 'beliefs" which have been fed by most cultures over hindredsd of years or more, hold quite a bit of momentum. With the visions summoned by our shared prophesies, coupled with the very real life counterpart, it is understandable to …
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beyond what rabbit has already said Kuya, we are in agreement on all points of what would be best. ... To ask you a question Kuya, How long do you think we have to get the "GUN" out of the crazies hands before thye really do some harm? Do we have enough time for the steady, steady drip of reason to soften the Rockhard shell of Fundamentalist Armour? ................... It is at this practical consideration that Rabbit runs into the same despair everytime. ...................... Rabbit even has a simple Religion Buster, a supremely simple creed which should nullify the effects of …
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Sorry but short....... The more chaotic and horrifying the world situation the more the God Squad is going to commit to their course of action. Do you see haow incredibly dangerous a situation this is? Any sane and rational people would start to back away from a course of action which brings more chaos and destruction. These WACKOS are going to become more and more convinced they are right the more things go berserk. ........................ Man that is one hell of a situation, and very , very unstable. ............. Makes you wonder of the brilliance of the neo-can Junta having alligned …
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Only the God Squad will not allow you to claim their GOD. If it is not their God you are talking about, and only they are the boss of their GOD, then you are obviously talking about SATAN. ............ Get down on your knees David.... .....You know?..... Rabbit mentions again the fact that the God Squad is no longer just a funny sideshow. They are the main driving force, or the excuse for the future which is looming like a very bad nightmare, an approaching Cyclone, or Hurricane. ................... The storm is looking so big it may cross the boundaries of …
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Kuya Rabbit agrees that firearms for protection from our governments does present a largely self defeating solution. Violence is rarely the best solution and is never a preferred one for Rabbit. Any sort of violence should be entered into from a position of strength, and a last ditch defense against advancing superior forces is not likey to be one of strength, rather one of desperation. .................As for Guns, the fact is and always has been that anybody who would use them for the wrong reasons is not going to follow the law anyway. .....Guns are NOT hard to get hold of …
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It is not merely because of a few Crazy conspiracy theorists that there is an IMMENSE culture of people who are convinced that many of these things have been deliberately orchestrated by a single entity or two all along, but it is not those who have been very unconvincingly given the blame. Rabbit does not raise these matters because he feels it is the time to discuss such things, seems off topic to be fair, but it is not as if these "events" were even well established facts. Many of the official stories have been so severely discredited at least that …
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Kuya Rabbit has before said that Iranian Nukes do not worry him, and they should not worry anyone. The only reason Iran has a "More" religiously inclined government that even the Iranians want, is due to the interference and heavy handedness of US interference in their business. ... Let's not go there, unless you seriously don't know what Rabbit is talking about when he says that the USA, solely responsible for the hatred held for it by not merely religious Iranians but the secular ones as well. Iran is being backed into a corner and it is only natural they would …
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Jay Cline, who has a familiar posting style BTW, is riding a long train of generalisations and working out from wholly unnacepatble presumptions to have come this far down the thread and to have still said, nothing substantial. .......Don't start petty small attacks of Rabbit before you have even addressed what were resoned remarks, one thing at a time Jay or else you will end up doing what Dittoheads do so well and that is start a dialogue and continue one between yourself and an imaginary ebing in your head. You have no nead to assume, rabbit, he makes his points …
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Griffin on 911, paraphrased: .. The official story that nineteen Arab men of fundamentalist Muslim persuasion hijacked four airliners and flew them into the WTCs and Pentagon, is a CONSPIRACY THEORY. .............. The question to be answered is "WHICH" conspiracy theory is best supported by the facts. .... Since some FACTS are on the table, if we are to continue discussing rationally we had best see where these FACTS take us, Jay and any others who are getting ready to weigh in here. .. Rabbit gives you all fair warning if you start calling theories or opinions, FACTS, in this thread, …
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By the way Jay all your claims about Iran are full of holes. You are clearly VERY misinformed about recent history in the Middle East except the TV news. Whilst we will get back to destroying your claptrap, shackled together bucket of rusty bolts of an argument, Rabbit would like to just remove the wheels from your cart, right here from the start. .................... 911-----The So called "bloody nose" given the USA, and by some reckoning the Western world. .....
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Jay you are going to have to try and understand the difference between Facts and Opinions. Rabbit is content to verify facts as presented and we can then apply those verifiable facts to our opinions which are the only things which are able to be changed. Once you realise the difference you will be expected to refrain from substituting one for the other, either when making your points or when questioning another's. If you wish to state something like the following as a fact then please be so good as to give a source. .. .."evidence that Iran provided the muscle …
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Jay says: ... "Question: If we attacked Libya because they wouldn’t turn over suspects, how is it that the retalitory attack in 1986 happened before the 1989 Lockerbie crime?" .. Rabbit's mistake, the retaliatory attacks of 1986, were not for the Lockerbie "CRIME". ..... The point was that Libya was not responsible for the Lockerbie "Crime" so that any and all sanctions and retaliation and there was some, was unjust and just plain wrong........ .. Rabbit has a contention and that is that the "Alleged" 911 hijackers are not proven to have been responsible for the WTC "Crime", furthermore the list …
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Just noticed that all those words you posted on this page add up to zilch, we are examining the first and most crucial "FACT" Jay. The assumption by you and others that Muslim Fundamnetalists were solely responsible for 911. ...Once we have established the best theory to explain "WHO" was responsible for 911, we will examine the question of whether or not this event or if you wish any other justifies what is being done to the Mostly Muslim countries in the Middle East. .. First the WHO, Jay because unlike some, Rabbbit likes to establish opinions of his own, based …
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.JAY asks: ------"Is it then not also true that the 9/11 attacks themselves justify, or at least, legitimize by example, everything America has done in the name of the War on Terrorism? --- ....Hardly, 3000 people killed by an extremist group (Maybe) justifies waging war on two nations at least one of which never could have been in any way involved. The war includes the use of banned Weapons of Mass Destruction (Depleted Uranium, Dirty Bombs, Son), it is being waged in contravention of all the Geneva conventions and it has netted a total of about 150,000 of Innocent victims. Unless …
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Still on the economics, but it gives a clear indication of certain very large holes in the official THEORY. .. There was a huge amount of insider trading which was indulged by certain US and Israeli interests which give a very clear picture of massive foreknowledge of 911 by "Certain Parties". .. .......http://prisonplanet.com/profits_of_death_insider_trading_and_9_11.html .. ... http://prisonplanet.com/profits_of_death_part_2_trading_with_the_enemy.html .. ...http://prisonplanet.com/profits_of_death_part_3.html .. ....http://prisonplanet.com/suppresed_details_insider_trading_cia.html .. ...The point of this is not so much to say who did what, it is to disprove that it was the sort of secret operation, so well concealed that nobody had any clue until the planes hit...This is relevant because …
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That was a long set of posts, and Rabbit must not for the first time apologise for being 'hoggy' of space. When Rabbit hops he needs room , but economical hops are not always small ones. .. One thing is for sure Jay, for you to hop back and reply that Rabbit is weird or stupid or a Lier or any other odd fancy you may entertain, would be the height of foolishness, for any of the above Rabbit will sheer your toes off at the stump in one bite... ..You'd better not try and change the subject for that would …
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Jay it is hard to bother with you if you want to play imaginary maey upy games. ...................FACTS Supported by SOURCES. OPINIONS Based on OPINIONS, none of your faith based garbage, you just lost all your toes and you have yet to raise a single fact worthy of the name, just half coherant opinions and not even particularly relevant. If you are having trouble comprehending the very basic but well prented argument so far, how are you going to cope whe we get down to "Important Facts" not just this small stuff, which won't even make or break anything. ... Now …
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Jay Cline aka Wolf (Bunny guess) says: .. "and then argues that evidence of Iranian malfeasance in providing the muscle for 9/11 "does not actually make the world of difference to My overral (sic) contention" , ... No Drongo Rabbit SUGGESTED it makes no difference, if it was argued you'd know about it. Do you always go about things by nibbling around the dges like a baby? .. What Rabbit asked was that you did not merely make unsubtantiated claims, that if you claim a FACT then you establish it is one or crawl back into your fanatsy and don't risk …
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Wolf...oops, um Jay why do you keep talking about Greek things? Rabbit saw Alexander last night, Is there some sort of GREEK fixation you are struggling with at the moment? .. Surely you don't think that saying Plato and Grecian makes you seem cultured or learned. Such a sophisticated thinker like Jay would know that any relevance to this discussion of Ancient or classical Greek philosophy is not sought or likely to lead to anything useful. Stop posing and stick to learning the simple stuff, FACTS ....sourced Opinions...based on facts.==== Debate...^^... Now any normal person would be expected t6o respond in …
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Jay says: . just testing html formatting on this blog ......Rabbit thinks that is the smartest thing you have said Jay, improving are we not? .. Oh it was temporary I can see, look at the next post...Oh dear, this is going to be a long and winding road, and it is so short if we did not have to pick up every piece of rubbish Jay finds along the way, but no the little collector in his little God fearing Heart must pick up poop.(Or is God not your special friend jay?)
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Ljwhit is an optimist if expecting a rational Jay, but hey no harm in hoping. Rabbit would bet on a hysteria based attack which will quickly reach a fever and pitch common to that breed known as God Squad. Rabbit thinks this is a God Squad in disguise, it smells very familiar. It is missing toes and a few fingers so far, going to bed but expect Jay will be metaphorically wheel chair bound by tomorrow when Rabbit looks by. This is a good heartwarming article, feel good stuff for "liberal Bush Haters" .. http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/3167 .. cheers
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Jay is a prime HYPOCRITE, but it is not as if anybody needs Rabbit to tell them this. Since he talks nothing but Rubbish Rabbit is forced to throw his Rubbish out. As I predicted he is indeed without legs today. Still fighting valiantly our black knight is but not looking good. Jay if you are Wolf, and it is well within the bounds of possibility, Rabbit will soon prove the fact. Actually you will prove it with rabbit's help. We need not waste time on what are admitted unsubstantiated opinions, you are the GOD Sqad Wolf, or his twin brother. …
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Is it hypocrisy to assert that Iran has legitimate defense interests in procuring nuclear weapons, ......No that is the truth Jay, they have legitimate defence interests due to aggression and threats of aggression from USA and Israel. It is indeed hypocrisy for America to claim moral superiority, once the fact of the Atom Bombs use, the actual motives and lack of NEED, is known. Like today for instance. Using them at the time seemed fair and reasonable to MOST Americans and that was not Hypocritical. In this place the Hypocrites came a couple of generations later. YOU Jay. .... Jay you …
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David the thread is not so far off topic if we keep remebering we are examing the modus operandi of the God Squad. See this Jay, he is performing like a trouper, totally unprovable set of standard program ideas nad not a skerrick of actual Facts so far to back anything up. It is a completely faith based argument he is presenting and with a little patience and practice we can run this goat across the stage in all his finery and use him as a study in Faith Based Reasoning....... (What a Beautiful Oxymoron). We are actually "RECKONING WITH THE …
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Missed these Jay and they are such pearls they should not go unnoticed. "Is it hypocrisy, in a time of war, to use a weapon, against an intransigent enemy, that kills 100,000 people but saves the lives of a million soldiers? ....... Do you know of such a situation? Are you inferring that the "Accidental" murder of 150,000 (Is closer to truth) people in Iraq "So Far" has saved a Million Soldiers? Can Jay add up? Are you on something Jay? The troop numbers in Iraq have not been above 150,000 as far a Rabbit knows. Are you seriously convinced in …
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JAY CLINE says: "Still, conclusions without facts is a no-no, per our furry moderator."since you have gotten the idea here" .. Excellent, you have almost got it, it is close and we'll run with it Jay. ..Now the second half of the idea, (odd Rabbit did not realise it could be split, like the atom I guess) FACTS need to be established via SOURCES if they are challenged. Rabbit dares to speak on behalf of many when he challenges all your facts. All of the things you wish to say are facts, ARE NOT. PROVE IT, or SHOVE IT.....
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What the heck just happened?......... Testing?
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Jay, Did you blow a fuse or something? What the heck just happened? David? Ljwhit? Jay why can't you just behave like a sensible perosn and debate? . .You can get the hang of it, Facts supported by Sources...Justify your opinions.
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Now that you mention it David, it is a lousy font, and it isthis and the format which authors much of Rabbit's efforts to....... . ---Communicate clearly. .. Whit it is then. Unless we are put to rights by the trully enlightened Whit. . Now what happened to the thread?
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Jay all of your remarks have been CRUDE in any normal meaning of the word, which specific words are you now refferring to? .. Nobody else here thinks you are worth taking seriously or deserving of politeness at this point either suspects Rabbit, so don't assume because Rabbit is taking the most Bites out of you, others could care less how you carry on at this point we are ready for anything.........
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Ah...Now I see. If Rabbit seemied a bit confused the posts on this page it is because the whole early thread suddenly dissapeaderd from one refresh to the next, Rabbit thought Jay had said something over the top and had the thread pulled or something. Now I can see his rambling LIES in all their nakedness. You lost your arms too, nothing anybody needs to do to prove you an idiot Jay Boy. If we are going after the wrong group of terrorists, then who are the right ones. Again, the only argument being made here is with references to facts …
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Sorry some of that JAY crap came out as Rabbit's words they are not. So just to deal with them. . "disagree about your Careful analysis comment. ljwhit used the A-bomb reference to argue against the morality of American actions in the Middle East after 9/11"... .. WHAT? -----"and bunny face has argued that America has no legitimate reason for accusing Middle East terrorists for 9/11 or for attacking Iraq. . Bunny FAce?....Jay is a poobum! ---"Bunny face has explicitly argued that Middle East hatred legitimatizes the act." .. You bloody lunatic...........Bunny Face has not explicitly argued any such thing, you...you...nincompoop! …
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Jay you are an idiot and you don't deserve any respect, suck up to folks all you want, you are not winning any ground and you are a coward as well as a dunce with no facts. Your entire last post is a load of speculative, innacurate generalised and totally unsupported garbage. There is not even anything worth responding to. Not a single claim of a Fact and as usual just your opinions dressed up in a hat which says FACT. You are a credit to nothing, thank God Bush has only got Brain dead twerps like you to back him. …
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By the way Jay stop preening. You keep going on about some supposedly insulting remarks you made to Rabbit, as if you did. Rabbit never noticed anything and cannot help but wonder what you seem so proud of. Doubt anybody else noticed anthing special, everything you have said has been pitiful honestly and if anybody is insulted by your poncing and prancing, it is your mother. If you had any worth you would be devaluing your self too but it probably isn't an issue. So relax little one, you have neither annoyed or insulted Rabbit. Rabbit is not sorry that you …
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Rabbit has already posted sources for who was doing the trading prior to 911. Rabbit thinks you are giving this dimwitted one too much rope, he will only get tangled up in more rope, best to keep him on a short leash and then he can't start running all over the place. Lastly, make him source his FACTS. He is not worthy of respect if he continues to avoid sourcing. He thinks he is GOD and letting him say anything without sourcing is encouraging this belief. HE is a fantasist. Sorry David, but this one disgusts Rabbit more than most for …
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Luminous and lovely one, bless your heart. Rabbit can sleep in peace now.
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Well dear ones, what did the Rabbit tell you about this one? The Rabbit who is seldom rabid, tries to be polite and loves all life, said this one is not worthy. In the world that this one would have for us, he would long since be gone. Jay would bring us to a point where any of us could just take a gun and blow off his idiot head. What would be the harm in that? Short sharp and sweet. With the sort of tactical skills and vision for things, including reality, he would be a sitting duck in such …
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Damn Rabbit lost half his post, bad electrons, bad.... ........Oh well . There is a Janitor who was the last person to leave WTC 1, and who was nationally reecognised for saving hundreds of lives. He came to work late that morning and was by chance in the basement on the morning arriving at work when he and others in the office felt an huge explosion and the walls and floor cracked. Then a technician who had been working in a lift shaft came running up from the next level screaming that there had been a massive explosion in the basement, …
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The post that went missing included a description of what Rabbit as a Bang Bunny knows about building demolitions. Also what he deduces from watching the available video footage of all three buildings collapse. ... To anyone with the right clues the cutter charges are very obvious and the classic demolition patterns of ALL THREE collapses are unmistakeable. ... The most crucial thing Rabbit would offer to the discussion about what can be deduced from the actual video footage which is from many sources and readily available, all show what we are looking for, if we look for it. .. The …
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Help....Rabbit has problems. ....................second time he tried to post the info which is Rabbit's own contribution to 911 bag theory, involves pretty compelling FACT, as yet overlooked by people thinks Rabbit. ...........................This time everything went into meltdown. ....................Rabbit's admittedly 'bit' wonky computer crashed even quicker than the WTC's, free fall which is what it is about................................. . To those who know what Rabbit means. note that this may be a co-incidence, but don't think so.........this is not the only time Rabbit has seen a certain pattern............. .................. .. Not sure how we will go now but Rabbit will try again to …
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My god did we see that? .. The Troll can post a source when it means nothing but an attempt at wit? . ..What a pathetic little hypocrite you are JAY.
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Whit you need not apologise to anyone, you are cherant, reasoned and articulate. You make valid points and back them up with sources especially if challenged on anything. .... It is not Whit who needs to apologise. .. Just take note as much of the tactics of the Troll as anything he manages to say. Notice how much he ducks and dances and how much energy he will devote to saying absolutely nothing. Except repeating his opinions as if his mere utterance gives them the the force of universal law. .. Rabbit is going to hit YOU with a BIGGER fact …
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By the Way JAY Blogs are not generally considered sources! . What was the poetry you were "not getting" around here? Rabbit missed the poems. Nobody else mentioned poems thinks Rabbit. You seem to see a lot of things others don't. Still Rabbit tries to post the Bunny Bang Theory, but a third computer crash, seems to happen when these words are in the post. . ................D*MOLITI*N................EX*LOS*VE...................WTC .. Weirding Rabbit out and frustrating too.
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The strange collapse of WTC 7 has never been reported ANYWHERE in the mainstream media. If these suggestions are true then the implications are massive. Steel Not Seen As Factor in WTC Collapse: Early tests on steel beams from the World Trade Center show they generally met or were stronger than design requirements, ruling them out as a contributing cause of the collapse of the towers, federal investigators said Wednesday. WTC 7: First large building ever to collapse from fire alone (no debris impact) The Firefighters' Tapes - Tapes reveal that fires were under control not raging infernos: A lot of …
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Remember any "New chum internet users" the fact that the source begins at PRISON PLANET which is but a News Source, bit right wing attitudes for this Hopper, but each to his or hers. The fact remains it is a site which mostly collates credible news and apart from clearly defined comment (Defined as only comment or opinion) is wholly credible as a source of news. The fact remains that whether or not you find them credible, for any NEW CHUMS, is beside the point, for Mr Jones will merely point the way and you will find the Facts reffered to …
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Rabbit didn't realise there were others here, just dropped down to put hi foot on the ground while in the middle of reading Luminous Beauty posting. Go and read the words whe has quoted, you monkeys, any who are not now dicussing the luminosity of those words, has not read them carefully and exalted in their magnificence. The author is a Conservative Heor or something, Rabbit forgets, will check that part later, but his words should be the biggining of all political education for any Americans or pseudo Americans like Oz and the Pommies. .... ....Rabbit Stamps his Angry foot, go …
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Above ..that is... . ....The words from Luminous Beauty We should stop posting just to correct a spelling error. Rabbit writes as quick as he likes but sometimes likes the mistakes better than the intended word. They are sometimes weird and sometimes interesting in themselves. Anybody knows heor..is hero..and that whe must be she. Don't they? If a troll wants to play with such small things let it, we are interested with the ideas behind words, if there are any. Not how something is spelt or how grammatically correct it is. Rabbit likes to play with words it is a hobby …
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WHIT you chill the Rabbit's soul, life's one great mistake.
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Hi Whit, Rabbit just catching up, today. No problems Rabbit understood the intention of the poem as you posted. Didn't mean to be cryptic, it was one of those commentsthat can sometimes slip out without thinking. Was actually more a comment to myslef, a melancholy moment of recognition. Sorry to have burdened the thread with something so innapropriate really. . As for what it means, if Rabbit ever actually says it out loud to himself, I will be surprised. Nobody can live with NO regrets, Rabbit has only one and it is very old, could be fixed but the fixing would …
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Normally when Passenger Jet Aircraft fly into Buildings they do not actually burst into huge fireballs. That is a fact it is supported by history. For it to happen to one plane flying into a skscraper is unheard of I think. Rabbit does not mean there will not be a big bang and fuel tanks will be ruptured upon impact, there will be plenty of sparks, electrical and kinetic to ignite fires and one would expect to see the fuel, which will have spilled out and still gushing even catching fire. The fire would quickly spread across the surface of all …
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Well at least that one went in. Now the rest must be re-written. Seriously this is getting strange. Obviously Rabbit must watch the Dangerous words. If any ITT people reading, could you let us know if you have some sort of filters for any combinations of words, we know the bot decides to blank some random words for fear they might be #### or ####, in their slang meanings. Weird when it lets us say FUCK, and BUM and POO. . Posting soon about the 911 FACTS Which Rabbit feels do the deed as far as polishing of the Theory that …
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You don't know much about fires or explosions little TROLL. . You will be getting a lesson very shortly and should have had it already. There are many problems with the official story of the alleged hijackers, way over and beyond the passport. . Of the 19 alleged hijackers, fully seven are alive and well, never having been in the USA at the time, and definately innocent by virtue of being alive........Does he get the connection wonders Rabbit?....Alive cannot be suicide bomber.................^^..................... . Now we shall look it up, but it would not surprise Rabbit if the One passport which was …
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Some of the Trolls earlier words Rabbit forgot to feed it. "Bull. Most of the Iranian people are admirers of American Democracy." --- No actually Troll, the Iranians were admirers of American democracy, like much of the world, up until about five years ago. Ask the Iranians, Rabbit knows a few are on the net shall we ask them? --- "Bull. Just because a man who would rob a bank believes he needs a gun, is no reason why we are obligated to provide him with one" --- You are not being to asked to give any guns to Bank robbers …
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Noticed anybody the Chavez just dumped his US Reserves. Sold up and moved the lot to Europe. The bank that is going to look like it was robbed very shortly is actually coming in the form of all these billions of American dollars that nobody suddenly feels very good about hanging onto. That is all Iraq did wrong, they were the first who were ironically given little choice but to sell their oil for Euros, or be completely at the mercy of the US. . Iran saw this and so did Venezuala, obviously everyone did. The Europeans were pushing for it …
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What if the USA was looking a bit shaky like now, and what if everybody decided that since they could use EUROs to buy OIL, they had no need of these very unhealthy looking bonds and the US dollars are definately not looking good in the medium let alone long term. . Euros can be used to buy all those goods and services provided by a population of twice the USA, and about the same GDP. They are a bigger Customer for OIL than the USA which is better. . You are not a very clever Troll, Rabbit winders if you …
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To put it in simple Troll language. . . You have what the world most fears, the world owns what you most fear.......If you convince enough of the world that you are berserk and are likely to bring our worst fears into reality................guess what.......You are even more likely to see your worst fears materialise........... . .Venezuala is no Bank Robber either Troll, the Bank is theirs and they are taking it back off the Bank Robbers. Iran is going to lead the Middle East in taking back it's Bank and the sad part is that the real culprits, Bush and co, …
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Nobody is going to want to go selling Oil for such a currency, that's for sure.....Are you self sufficient? . .Well maybe you are just going to have to go a plundering since fairness is not your way, but don't come round telling us you are not a pirate.. . How easy would it have been to have shared a bit and accepted a bit more reasonable share of the pie?. .You'll never understand, and that is too bad, because it is not hard for me to understand you. But pity even can reach it's limits and as a country, the …
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Dool...Dewel....Dual..?
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David, withy respect, Rabbit and others on this site always extend respect and courtesy to others. We simply have the same dislike of Liars and people who clearly eaxist for no other reason than to push a line. If they cannot engage in honest debate, answer direct questions with direct answers. If they discard sources out of hand and provide little if anything to back up their own often illogical opinions. You know as well as anybody that some abuse, and references to lying are not unreasonable. The ITT moderators have been required to look at a number of threads in …
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Whoops.....Rabbit mistake...Last post SINGLE should read SIMPLE> . . Nice to see WTH here, do as asked WTH. Read the whole thread and be sure you know what is going on here. Rabbit does not want WTH to get caught in the cross-fire. Rabbit points out to WTH that Natalie is definately a SHILL and is the reason Rabbit first used WTH as a human sheild (sort of) when they SHILL Nat and her partner were trying to play dirty. . WTH also got caught in the cross-fire another time by supporting someone without realising what actually that person was all …
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Do you actually think Natalie, or Jay are going to "Learn" anything here David? Please, spare the Rabbit. The attacks should of course be kept controlled, and used to goad the Troll or Shill into doing what is required of it, rather than for mere personal gratification. . .Never respond in anger only. Count ten, Rabbit does. A carefully crafted goading which forces a Troll to confront an issue it is avoiding, is not the same as calling it an "Assgrabber" or an "Asshole" just because it is stupid and annoying. . The topic of this thread is "Reckoning with the …
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Natalie has sp[outed an opinion in her first post which has so far recieved considerable treatment in earlier posts on this thread. On behalf of the other participants on this thread, Rabbit requests that Natalie show the respect of finding out what she is breaking into with such a gratutious opinion at this stage. Then Natalie said: . "An even more grievous situation was avoided thanks to the bravery and initiative of a few ordinary Americans who attempted to take control back from the murders intending to crash their plane into the Capitol building." . . How do you know that …
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Rabbit is seeing if you have got anything, by checking as always does, and will return. In the interests of not wasting space, as far as the Barbara Olson possibly being arrested, I cannot find anything which gives enough credence to it to be worth discussing at this point. This does not say Rabbit rules it out because it is not altogether unnexpected, the best that can be said about it was said here: . ."what a coincidence, isn't it? that the sudden appearance of Barbara Olson, on the non-existent Polish-Austrian border, happens at the same time that British troops disguised …
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The SHILL seems to have posted a link which sneakily makes you give it your Supervisor Password, be warned EVERYBODY. Natalie's first link makes Rabbit's Content Advisor window come up and ask for Supervisor Password. Weird because all settings are highest for Rabbit's. The interesting thing Rabbit mentions is that there has been constant and regular hacking attacks on this computer and various attempts to get Rabbit's passwords for this and other things. . Maybe Rabbit is giving the Shill too much credit, but then guess what happens, a Government page comes up for a moment only then shuts down and …
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The Alpa source is a completely unverifiable statement. We cannot see who actually wrote it, nothing. We cannot verify that page in any way Nat, it is not connnected to any source, do you understand. It is a bland statement which is probably true in itself but "proves" nothing, . Beyond that all it says is that the Voice recorder was played for families of victims "April 18 in Princeton, N.J., despite ALPA’s strenuous objections", nothing about what was on the recordings. Zilch.
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The wholly emotional appeals made by Natalie based on the supposed quotes from people involved in an action which may or may not have occurred wholly fatuous. What do they tell us? Nothing that helps and nothing which matters until we have established the words actually were said and that they are of any consequence in any case. . The reference of Natalie's from which the fatuous quotes come, is actually not doing more than talk about LYz Glick's Book deal. . The interesting stuff comes when one begins to ask the ineviatble questions who is Lyz Glick and what exactly …
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Now the interesting thing about we are doing here is establishing facts and seeing where they take us. The following is an analysis of some of the facts being raised by the lovely Natalie. . ."At 9:57, the passengers assault began. […] One of the callers ended her message as follows: “Everyone’s running up to first class. I’ve got to go. Bye.” The cockpit voice recorder captured the sounds of the passenger assault muffled by the intervening cockpit door. […] In response, Jarrah immediately began to roll the airplane to the left and right, attempting to knock the passengers off balance. …
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This is some more, I think it is interesting and like timelines needs to be considered in order..................... "Another issue that the Commission does not raise is why no family member of the victims that were finally allowed to listen to the cockpit recording in April 2002 heard any indication that the hijackers decided to crash the plane. Neither any article nor Jere Longman’s book “Among the Heroes” (that is based on interviews with family members) mention even the slightest hint that something like this was audible on the recording. The Commission does not make any attempt to explain the contradiction …
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What is the time at this moment of the conversation? I believe it’s a conservative guess to say 10:00:30. At the very moment while Jeremy Glick is discussing with his wife what to do, according to the official timeline Jarrah had twice pitched the nose of the airplane up and down and a passenger said “In the cockpit. If we don’t we’ll die!” Is it believable that Glick was staying behind? Is it believable that he does not mention Jarrah’s pitching of the airplane’s nose? Is it believable that he discusses attacking the hijackers without telling his wife that the other …
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“Among the Heroes” continues: “She couldn’t bear to listen and handed the phone to her father [Richard Makely]” (p. 217) According to the official timeline there are only 30 – 40 seconds left before the hijackers will start to pull down the airplane. And about 70 – 90 seconds before the plane crashes. So what does Lyz’ father hear? "There was no noise for several minutes. And then there were screams, so I said - well, they're doing it. Another minute, it seemed like an eternity, but another minute, a minute and a half, and then there was another set of …
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Here are the reasons Lyz Glick's story is consciously or otherise not consistent with the "reported" facts. ..... The New York state police patched into the phone call after Lyz Glicks’ mother had dialled 911. (p. 206). This was shortly after Glick called his wife (which happened around 9:30) (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 10/28/01) http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20011028flt93mainstoryp7.asp The State Police dispatcher is Robert Weingaertner (Times Union, 09/08/02) http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=57018&category=FRONTPG&BCCode=HOME&newsdate=9/8/2002 “Captain Francis Christensen stood behind Weingaertner, firmly directing troopers who were flooding the dispatch room. Call Verizon and see if they can patch directly into Glick's call. Contact the FBI. Call the Federal Aviation Administration”. (Times Union, …
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OK this is the last, but it is some of the best. . And in a documentary film called “Flight 93: A Reconstruction” aired in the UK in 2002 Lyz Glick confirms that she told Jeremy that the South Tower had fallen. In her words "It was valuable information for him to have". So if the account of Glick’s phone call then is accurate the only possible explanation is that the official timeline can’t be true. That Flight 93 didn’t crash at 10:03:11. Considering that Glick’s phone call more likely postpones the beginning of the attack by about three minutes it …
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In light of the above response, Rabbit feels justified in ignoring the last [tiny url] Natalie. . Do let Rabbit know if it is important though, won't you. . Or prove how there is anything wrong with the reasoning regarding the events you raised, factually or otherwise, please.
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Natalie, . Rabbit respectfully points out that he does not actually question the release or source to be honest, merely the fact that it cannot actually be navigated away from in any way or shown who it belongs to.. . The fact is evident from the following postings that Rabbit does not question any of the facts you have thus established. . There may be a voice recording and certain people are claiming certain things, but now please give the rest of my reply attention. . Meanwhile Rabbit shall try and look at the first one again. Frankly it is of …
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Back in a couple of hours, Nat, Rabbit, has to catch up on a couple of things, close factory and home to dinner, but will look in later and hope you are being a nice girl and giving the Rabbit's posts attention, long but VERY well documented, and precisely argued, "I THINK". . . Rabbit is not closed minded Nat but nor is he a fool and you know this. If Rabbit is wrong about you in any way, it is your fault, you could have been a lot more honest at certain times... . You threw the truce before, Would …
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Once more on the ITT site, please do not infer that Rabbit has any "Philosophical" issue with ITT. All my postings show a pattern of increasing admiration and support for the site. They exonerated Rabbit when you and the Colonel ganged up and falsely accused Rabbit after all. .Let us not be revisionists, thread history is the easiest to link to and Rabbit can HTML, is just too lazy, as it happens.
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Rabbit is not seeing any significant evidence that the official story is true on the important points and there are more questions than answers, usually because the Gov't is hiding things. . . Rabbit feels there is a possibility it was shot down, yes, there is some things out there and they are speculative only, but like the above , they are speculated via dealing with facts and trying to make a logical inference, . It is interesting you should ask "why would they not want flt. 93 to complete its mission and take out the capitol building" because Rabbit tends …
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Natalie, . You have only now, after more than a month of Rabbit referring to you as one of the culprits who attempted to shut Rabbit down. It is a bit stale to now, finally to put up the sort of resistance you should have done at the time. . As for the Helbig naming, something similar bot with more nuance will be offerred shortly. . The reasons I called you on this, at the time, you may recall, are quite telling, and while they prove nothing, they do beat a very distinct path to your door. If at this stage …
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Rabbit would also point out thyat Pale Rider sufferred a similar fate when he first confronted you both. . The truth if it be much different to this scenario, would have best been established when you were first asked for truth. As said this is very late in the game to challenge something which has already clearly been a serious threat to your credibility for a while. You have been playing for keeps Nat, if you could have successfully challenged these facts why would you have waited so long? . Now be asurred that it is not my intention to use …
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Rabbit noticed that, but didn't want to scare it away. Nice little electrons,....... be good to us.................David have you got any thing which clearlt shows the actual times taken for the buidings to collapse? Start to finish of the actual collapse?
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Some of the FACTS which Rabbit considers crucial to forming any opinions about how the WTC's collapsed. .1.Each WTC building collapse occurred at virtually free-fall speed (approximately 10 seconds or less). Actually one was 8.7 seconds I think, but am seeking confirmation. 2.Each building collapsed, for the most part, into its own footprint. 3.Virtually all the concrete (an estimated 100,000 tons in each tower) on every floor was pulverized into a very fine dust, a phenomenon that requires enormous energy and could not be caused by gravity alone ("…workers can’t even find concrete. ‘It’s all dust,’ [the official] said"). 4.Dust exploded …
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Rabbit may be wrong about some of his speculation, but on many levels? We shall see. Rabbit knows you love him. What now the Nat is being condescending? Rabbit reaches a paw of equality down to Nat, who now calls him a baby? Don't be flip. We are big Rabbits and Girls. The power is not in the words, but in the truth. The rest is just art........or not.
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Natalie Rabbit has always attempted to keep the debate as focussed and relevant as possible. It is yourself and Roger who introduced all the twists and turns, both directly and by avoiding straight answers to straight questions. That is history and awaits any appraisals on the relevant thread. The first outing of Ramjet was of utmost importance in showing that a known Shill for the Pentagon lies was involved. At that point had you been open minded you would have read all the references given by people. Rabbit just did so last night, went through all the refs and sources given …
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You avoided the Wikipedia source and it's message for a long time actually. You then tried to talk your way around it as you do now. The source was merely one of those offerred to show why the use of Nuclear Waste, Depleted Uranium was banned by all civilised nations. The only exceptions now being USA and Britain. Nat they did establish the nature of this as a WAR CRIME. You are re-writing history a bit here but Rabbit refers any doubters to the thread. You see I will not be using any more of this thread to deal with what …
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oops....Rabbit meant you and DU were the only things they had in common. Now if you are not connected to Roger you have to realise that someone was pulling monkey tricks, and what about Pale Rider? the same thing happened and he was very polite. But his info was dynamite, and somebody didn't want it being said. Now how can you feel good about supporting somebody who is clearly pulling such dishonest tricks if you are yourself honest? Rabbit even admitted whenever he knew other posters, before being accused, which was silly since they were admitted Rabbit friends, two were anyway. …
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You didn't use the word Banned, the exact post will be quoted later when Rabbit has had time to check, and if wrong I will say so too. "abusive, insulting, and yes threatening words for me and others were borne of your inability to effectively defend your position" ...Natalie the thread stands yet and any can see that Rabbit's words were justifiably harsh but as far as Flaming on the net goes, mild in all but their effectiveness. Besides that those who know Rabbit know he is none of the things you accuse him of. Others have actually been more directly …
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Now Can we talk about 911 and how those with a Faith based argument use it to justify making war on entire nations? How many women with PMS does it take to change a lightbulb?
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So is it possible that Rabbit could have some feedback from any who feel the official 911 has some credibility, when the above ten point Rabbit post is taken into account. I've been waiting for the chance to prove any of those contentions. This is important to any who wish to argue that what the USA is doing in it's War on Terror. There are those of us who think of it as a War of Terror and one of the crucial cases upon which we have formed this opinion, is that the official story of 911 does not stand ANY …
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Rabbit's wonky computer now begins the task of downloading the free book. Thanks Whit. If it was the flash computer at home it would have already done it and made Rabbit a cup of coffee. Rabbit must make his own coffee here to.
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Damn has the God Squad caved in now we're town to Facts?
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Rabbit re-posts this since it is relatively short and deserved mopre than the dustbin of history on this thread,..........Rabbit stamps angry foot! Some of the FACTS which Rabbit considers crucial to forming any opinions about how the WTC’s collapsed. .1.Each WTC building collapse occurred at virtually free-fall speed (approximately 10 seconds or less). Actually one was 8.7 seconds I think, but am seeking confirmation. 2.Each building collapsed, for the most part, into its own footprint. 3.Virtually all the concrete (an estimated 100,000 tons in each tower) on every floor was pulverized into a very fine dust, a phenomenon that requires enormous …
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GOD does not care about anybody at all more than anybody else. Then. Try and censor that.
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The guy was a bum. He hung out in the pub with the guys and probably enjoyed a few tokes of wisdom weed of an evening. Frankly Rabbit finds it hard to beleive he didn't get his end away there a few times, he was among the right crowd. He was probably such a top bloke he never talked about it afterwards, is all, so the God Squad who PREFER to talk about it, just figured he was a virgin. The guy was definately a pacifist and Rabbit would be inclined to thump anyone who took a poke at himself, the …
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Wabbit can eveolve too, does Elmer and his Masters think Rabbit's just sit around waiting for the next weapon. Rabbits had become naturalised West Australians long before the Rabbit Proof fence was completed. Enough Godish blasphemy, my neice will be onto us and we'll all be told to get down on our knees and pray. Like the Elmer song. Rabbit imagines a GWB, in bog cowboy boots and a huge Stetson, jumping up and down and yelling about a war on Wabbits............... WOW ...................... Those Wabbits hate our freedoms, they want to destroy our way of life and they have a …
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From another thread, a great site Rabbit found again. Well presented and huge resource highlighting some of the biggest lies of the century from the master of deceit. GEORGE BUSH LIES about IRAQ. http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/iraq_lies.html
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What kind of Ammo would Elmer be using Natalie..................................................Rabbit looking up..........................Ears half raised......................big eyes blinking innocently................................^^........................................ On with 911, Rabbit hopes Nat and Jay, and others, are reading lots of interesting stuff from the interesting sources already given who use verifiable facts and science and things to debunk the official theory and allow us to forulate other theories which have the benefit of accounting for all the facts we do at least have. Or at the least challenge Rabbit on the TEN big bangers, re-printed, using billions of co-operative electrons, for your perusal and consideration, so that he may source and …
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Rabbit just hadn't seen WB for twenty years is all, didn't get the Elmer Fudd ref at first. Am not a sensitive Rabbit, actually I am the most self contained ego, nobody upsets Rabbit by their own choice, just his. The Popular mechanics Article is not taken seriously by researchers and I will be glad to show you why. Rabbit did not realise that you expected him to even bother with it, sorry. That will be next on my posts. It is a legendary joke though and Rabbit is surprised you don't realise it. You must not be very well informed …
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On the Barbara Olson story. It is now a couple weeks old and was actually corrected very early on about the Polish/Austrian border mistake. Now actually this in itself makes the story just a tad more believable. You see any deliberate misinfo of this scale would never have made such a basic mistake. Now the source is Tom Flocco, and that is not a good enough reason to ignore it as some claim. These are wishful thinking because Flocco has a good track record as it happens. He is repeating something which has been told to him and since it does …
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Anyone who wants to see a recent re-hash and re-examination of details should see here, it is very well referenced and sourced. ------------------------- FBI Claims 84 Videos Show NO Flight 77 Impact .............Of course they don't.. Nothing to see here folks, move along................There are no planes on the videos so nobody needs to see them. That is probably enough for Natalie? Is it OK that the FBI just says nothing to see and withholds the evidence? Rabbit was of the opinion that US courts were the law, the FBI is only there to enforce the law, not dictate terms by which …
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POPULAR MECHANICS. Rabbit read the Popular Mechanic article when it first came out, and independantly came to all the same conclusions as follows. The most obvious thing to Rabbit was that most of the "Alternative theories" they were debunking, were not widely held and were already considered to be disinformation by many of us then. So these clown set up an strw man and proceeded to attack it, without even much success then as I recall, Rabbit is as mentioned not altogether foreign to exngineering and physics and on these points alone they show ignorance. We can deal with each of …
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http://batr.org/911/2005.03.01_arch.html This is an excellent site, very information intensive and it deals with the Popular Mechanics article in it's historical perspective. The rest of the site is worth looking at if you intend to sriously challenge Rabbit. Be aware Natalie that Rabbit has the advantage of probably having read everything you have, but a whole lot more besides. Rabbit has a huge advantage, and he is not boasting about it. Rabbit is a sportsman, and would prefer a challenging hunt any day. You are being advised to be better armed. Of course if you are capable of having an open mind, …
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Where is the MONK? .............................................^^............................................
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Natlaie and Jay, please have a look at this source before you go further because it is just in and it's a beauty. If there is anything about the article whichyou don't understand Rabbit will be glad to explain it in very simple words. ...................All ineterested parties have a look at this lovely effort by the WRH team. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html Hoppity hop says Rabbit, that site is the best on WTC 7 yet seen. Concise, it is concise, and to the point.......... Here it is again.... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html
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Rabbit trys to remember to copy his posts before hitting the Submit button. Often the most work is the one he forgets, and boing, the electrons escape and run off into the ethers. No returns when this happens and if one considers it there is an explanation. Probably filters in the system, ITTs or "THEM" which re-routs whole posts into a one way door. Who or what is behind the door? Rabbit has a computer which he values for it's virtual imperviousness to hacking. This comptuter crashes in response to anything unexpected. Quite handy because several hacking attempts have been averted …
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Now Natalie stop the waffling exercise about the PM article. Rabbit was familiar with it as said and knows from his own study of it years ao it is rubbish as shown. Now it is not normally considered good form or much point in attacking the credibility of the author or publication, but it is by no means a blanket rule. If as in this case it shows the magazine is of a certain bias, and that the author is also, "AND" that they have not actually made any contribution except to build and demolish straw men. Rabbit already sadi we …
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Natalie you are stubbirnly using that word FACT to describe opinion again. “There is no scientific basis for the conclusion that explosions brought down the towers,” Lerner-Lam tells PM. “That representation of our work is categorically incorrect and not in context.” Natalie that is an Opinion. Facts have already been presented and will be deatialed now which do "Prove" that Explosives brought down the Towers. there is no shortage of HIGHLY qualified opinions about this. Rabbit is however quite knowledgeable in the field and can assure you that there is no doubt that these were controlled demolitions. The Videps exist and …
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Natalie your claims from NIST investigators are just that. They have been successfully challenged in the last reference I gave you and I mean successfully. You are suffering from the terminal disease of believing everything a government claims is the truth. History alone shows this to be LUNACY. Not that Rabbit merely doubts just because the Government says it. If what they say is not consistent with reality, then Rabbit feels quite justified. In the case of 911, not even other governments believe the USA. Did Nat know the EU and individual nations have lodged official refusals to accept the 911 …
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Hi Whit. Rabbit dropped a good article on another thead. Thorough statement of Iran situation in context. Here it is. It is a distilled version of what Rabbit has been saying about these things for a while. Edging to Disaster with Iran. http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mike_whi_051007_edging_towards_disas.htm by Mike Whitney
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Natalie your last point first, "I have to assume now, that you must also believe the first attempt to topple the Twin Towers in 1993 was carried out by, or with the knowledge, consent and/or help of the U.S. Government. Do you have any information or speculation on THAT event?" .......What the hell are you talking about. Why must I believe this? Why must Rabbit have any opinion about it? You are certainly determined to go off on tangents when you can;t deal with facts. Your source will be dealt with next, but it actually doesn't prove anything if it is …
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Deal with the facts, stop quoting generic shill swill at the Rabbit. Ask someone to explain gravity to you Nat, that is the first step in understanding that there is a spedd at which those buildings could have fallen at, if gravity alone was responsible for their collapse. It is a very solid FACT, Natalie, Gravity is an old established Fact, among Earth residents. It may surprise you to know Natalie, that Gravity is constant. It has a measured constant value, and via this we can calculate how fast something will fall. It matters not how heavy the thing is as …
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Natalie would you mind not introducing anymore topics into this discussion until you been courtious enough to have dealt with rabbit's posts thus far. They include some very specific statements, all of which ahve immens bearing on the issue, and most of which you are ignoring.. You will note please Rabbit answers your every point and always has, actually. You will complain about time, well it is you who is disseminating my little chicken. We are about four pages into rabbit repaeating the same points and none of them have been dealt with, they are even numbered, and they have been …
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Even an average demo would have brought them down at almost free fall, a little faster is sharp work. As for constantly bleating "But such a huge hoax could never have been perpetrated on so many people and so many experts in the world" My dear Natalie, it has not been successfully perpetrated, that is the whole reason we are able to debate this with such a wealth of well argued material at hand. The whole fraud has never convinced more than half the people and that number is dwindled way below half now. Even though an enormous effort has gone …
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Your conspiracy theory relies on bits and pieces of "circumstantial" evidence, much of which is contradictory in itself. These small quite insignificant of themselves, parts are somehow woven into a fantastical fairy tale, which could only happen in the movies, with the usual hollywood penchant for exaggeration and simplification. The Fact that the normal laws of physics and decades of experience with fires, buildings and airplanes has to be ignored for the GRAND CONSPIRACY THEORY to exist is just nothing. Natalie, who has Engineers in her Family, knows. She will know post some blindingly simple probably off topic reply, which will …
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Thanks Luminous Beauty, Rabbit really should have a dictionary handy, at home computer I have and occasionally double check a word not used much before. Rabbit has been going for a couple of weeks with that mistake. Dissemble Spelling is another issue of course. Trouble is Rabbit can type VERY fast with his two paws and the few seconds spellcheck sorts out the common mistake with left and right paws wrong order. The letters are usually there, but need to be re-arranged. No spellcheck here. It is Rabbit's hard to copy "signature" though and I like the security it gives. Living …
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WTH has got the Gravity idea. Actually Rabbit knows it as 0.98 meters/ second/second This relates to how fast Gravity alone would have pulled those buildings down. It gives a theoretical figure. The figure pressupposes there is no counterforce being offerred. By now Natalie should have jumped off the chair a few times and noticed the predictable result, that she falls down. Hopefully having proved to herself with the pin and the Iron that Gravity is constant and does not care how heavy something is, she is ready for the next experiment. Place a thick pillow, or a beanbag, or several …
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Thankyou John, Rabbit has been hoping you would come and take some of the load off. Shall we go into Rodriguez in detail, for the benefit of those playing at home?
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An introduction to William Rodriguez, Natalie. --------------------------------------------- WORLD TRADE CENTER RESCUE HERO SUES BUSH AND OTHERS UNDER RICO STATUTE, ALLEGES WILLFUL COMPLICITY IN ATTACKS THAT KILLED 3,000. By Margaret Atheling Rowe PHILADELPHIA, PA, OCTOBER 22, 2004 On September 11, 2001, William Rodriguez, a maintenance worker at the World Trade Center in Manhattan, single-handedly rescued fifteen people. The only employee with the master key to the North Tower staircases, he led firefighters up the stairs, unlocking doors as he went, aiding in the evacuation of hundreds of additional people who, but for his efforts, might have perished. Although his job description did …
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Attorney Berg acknowledges that Rodriguez’s action will shock and offend many Americans. But he urges critics to read the detailed complaint, posted on the internet at HYPERLINK "http://www.911forthetruth.com" www.911forthetruth.com, before forming conclusions. “The ‘Official Story’ of what actually took place on 9-11 is a lie,” Berg flatly maintains. “We do not pretend to have put together a full and definitive account of how, and by whom, the attacks were carried out. But information reported in mainstream media, and viewed in the light of common sense and the laws of physics, demonstrate that the ‘Official Story,’ examined closely, is not credible. The …
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The truth is that there is no definitive evidence that there were any Arabs on those planes, and even less proof concerning the supposed identities of the alleged hijackers.” Berg notes too that a poll taken by the respected Zogby organization in August 2004 disclosed that half the population of New York, including such unlikely “conspiracy theorists” as those who identify themselves as “very conservative” and as Evangelical Christians, believe the federal government had foreknowledge of the attacks, and knowingly failed to prevent them. Asked why he decided to bring this controversial lawsuit, Rodriguez explains that, having survived the World Trade …
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AND we are still only showing that the official story is a lie. No proposals from any WILD EYED CONSPIRACY THEORISTS about what did happen, just a steady and documented listing of facts which all have a bearing on any theory, one might be proposing to develop. Question the FACTS dittoheads, Shills and Trolls, if you can. Allow us to further prove them if we must, but deal with the facts, and then fit that into your own conspiracy theories, if you can. If you cannot, then ask us, we have a few theories as it happens about what happened. The …
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1: No Natalie, although such confirmation is available and Rabbit shall find it for you. You only have to measure the time it takes for the building to start collapsing to the time it takes to hit ht ground. The distance is known.None of those other funny things you mention matter. 2: Yes and no. The building would be designed to collapes into it's own footprint and as Rabbit has before said it would by about the halfway point have probably levelled out to a uniform collapse, for reasons which can be detailed but which could be taken on faith if …
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By the way, back on 1: again, does Natalie know what seismic records are?
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Has Natalie tried jumping onto pillows yet? That will be necessary before we get into times of collapse too.
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1] You have not seen very many videos of it Natalie. You are simply wrong about the end not being visible. Rememeber the seismics again to. There is also sound on some of the videos which make it easier yet to judge. The times for collapse are known, established, and no question actually. Have not yet taken the time to find them, but shall do. 2] Nothing about counterweights heard before no. It still makes no difference, because the force of gravity does not take the weight, or mass into account. The tilting was as you say noticeable at the start, …
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4] Links coming up. "30 floors below you might get debris clouds breaking out. We’re talking about a LOT of force" Only in a cartoon. No way. You would see windows popping all the way to the particular blasts, noted not in the specific locations only Besides this the blast waves are clearly visible and there are witnesses. You are pulling that old stunt of trying to at least raise doubt about as many points as possible, even gratuitously and pretending that this somehow deals with what is a COMPREHENSIVE body of eveidence which COMBINED gives a very specific picture of …
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Rabbit is a welder as it happens. We use Oxy-acetylene to heat steel for bending or cutting. The stuff is expensive, and if Kerosene (Jet Fuel) could be made to burn hot enough to bend steel, don't you think we would do it? Even LPG is much cheaper than OXY Acetylene, and it sure as hell burns a lot hotter than Jet Fuel ever could be made to. We don't use LPG to even heat up steel enough to bend it. As far as the jet fuel, which was mostly incinerated in the initial fireball as John points out again, having …
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A nail file and a gas lighter?
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Hi Whit Rabbit has only been on and off forums over the years. Most of late and it is easy from how rabbit works. In between setting up Rotational moulding oven, and fitting Kayaks etc, is plenty time for Internet. Your contributions have been appreciated and often highly thought of by others as well as Rabbit. This is actuallt rabbit's favorite site since the concentration of intelligent and thoughful people is high, there are not too many and especially there are not so many articles and threads going that discussions become too diluted. this is the main criticism of Rabbit's other …
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Nobody says that explosives were needed to pulverise the concrete, just that explosives was the most likely cause of such pulverisation. What an odd little sideline. The sort of tests you are describing are of no more necessity than the sort Rabbit is ironically suggesting you perform. The point Rabbit is trying to make is that the results of these sorts of things is very well understood. Gravity, energy all sorts of physics principles exist which make it silly for Natalie to try and prove Steel can be heated enough to be weakened by jet fuel, or that things don't fall …
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A real high explosives explosion lacks much flame and smoke unless it has blown something up which gives either or both. Fuel does not explode or all burn at once, unless it is vapourised or at least atomised (Finely dispersed) The fireballs included most of the jet fuel, if not all. The resulting fire should not have been very hot and would have cooled quickly to a much lower temperature, within minutes at most. This would mean much more smoke of course, since most of the things left burning would be curtains and carpets and wood and plastic. This to an …
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Firemen in the buildings said that the fires were out,.........WITNESSES.
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The following link includes much technical detail as well as photos of the floors before concrete was poured. Notice the steel re-enforcing mesh laid out. http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/sixty-state-street/construction.htm ------------------------------------------ Natalie on your comments about how scientific Rabbit's test is , by the way. We are only testing to see if the flame from jet fuel is hot enough to weaken steel. Therefore it is eminently useful for the purpose. Please note that Rabbit was the nerdy kid with glasses and who did great in science and biology, back in school days. Natalie was obviously not paying attention, she was probably wagging school to …
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A bunch of different articles, all detailing clearly why the Official LIE cannot stand. From a purely engineering viewpoint. http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/articles/sciam01/sci_am1.html http://www.cam.net.uk/home/nimmann/peace/explosions.htm http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
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Honestly don't usually have problems posting or using links on this board. Rabbit admits he never even looked at the Professor Astaneh experiment. He didn't think Nat would either. Perhaps we should all stop being lazy and google HTML and get our act in gear. Actually though Rabbit doesn't mind the simple format. Simple is usually best. Keep it Forrest Gump, coming from a technician. Nat just a reminder, the Implosion theory of the WTCs is more or less mainstream. It can hardly be suggested it is a little held or supported belief. A survey of the number of people who …
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Whit that last link is a better illustrated version again and Rabbit recommends it for ease of understanding. Luminous Beauty your link is by far the most poignant overall.. Rabbit is looking forward to a screen saver which will be that face as it gets the rope, chair or jab.
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Whit................. Luminous Beauty............. Rabbit is often humbled by the scintillating insight of others and you have both given him pause to reflect and not for the first time. You have the advantage over Rabbit in understanding your kin and land, naturally. Yet it is seldom so obvious and the insights are appreciated. Luminous Beauty, maybe interests you to know Rabbit has first born son born on same date as Robert Zimmerman. He happens to be a very Gifted guitarist, at 14 he has been playing for 8 years and teaches a half dozen students himself now. Rabbit rests himself by the …
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Whit, from over here it looks like you guys could be on the rim of the vortex about now, yes. We have followed your development in our own quiet NEW WORLD ORDER way here in OZ. It isn't pretty and Rabbit feels the veneer of democracy is only that. We seem to be as hamstrung on real choices, Neither Labour nor Liberal offers any alternative in much the same way as Dems and Reps over there. Our Labour is more Socialist in origins and as such carries the liberal flag. They have absorbed a lot of the old communists as easily …
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A good fire can become a conflagration with some more fuel, here is some more fuel to warm Nat's bottom. "We have some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses," said Stanley Hilton, former top Republican and presidential advisor. "Bush personally ordered this event to happen in order to gain political advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking in the Middle East...I went to school with some of these neocons. At the University of Chicago, in the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others and so I know …
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Natalie once again shoots her as yet earthbound plane with another hole. (Rabbit does not like to think of Natalie shooting her feet off) It should be noted that the debris of flight 93 is a very small piece if evidence and it is best seen in light of a lot of other evidence, most of which natalie is stedfastly refusing to acknowledge. Now since you wish to look at the facts of Debris from flight 93, Rabbit will be pleased to oblige. The PM article has been thoroughly dealt with above. It was also noted that another tactic of the …
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This is your guy Natalie, even your own witnesses working against your theory. In a morning briefing, state Police Major Lyle Szupinka confirmed that debris from the plane had turned up in relatively far-flung sites, including the residential area of Indian Lake. Investigators appealed to any residents who had come across such debris, in the surrounding countryside or even in their yards, to contact them, emphasizing that even the smallest remnants could prove to be important clues." http://post-gazette.com/headlines/20010913somersetp3.asp ----------------------------------- Szupinka said searchers found one of the large engines from the aircraft "at a considerable distance from the crash site." "It appears …
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Anyway, it is established that debris was found at least 8 miles from the crsh site of flight 93. No? OK Some more. It's important to recall that every description of the main crash site is that the airplane was OBLITERATED. Very small debris was spread over a couple hundred yards. This is exactly what you'd expect to see when an Airliner impacts nearly vertically as Flight 93 did. Nothing survived this impact... yet a 1000lb fan was found elsewhere. It fell off before impact, just like Flight 587's engine that was found basically intact did. John Fleegle, an Indian Lake …
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Natalie, the Rabbit is a liitle bored and so has decided to crush your last post like a Grape. Theory 1 - It blew there (The NTSB/FBI Story). Comment: Wind speed that day was 9 knots (or 10.4 MPH). Video from that morning shows a very light breeze. The NTSB theory is that a lot of lightweight paper-like material survived the crash fireball and escaped the 35 foot deep, wet mud crash site and floated at 10 mph 2 - 8 miles over more wet, muddy fields. And how did clothing, books and large engine parts blow there again? And is …
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Are you folks copying the address bar for the link? Then pasting it on the comment window?
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Then reverse the process to use the link from site? Sincerely Rabbit has no problems either way, most of the time. Rabbit is seeking comments from anybody who can find anything WHATSOEVER, which challenges WTC Janitor Rodriguez' story. Several searches have yielded NOTHING. Can it really be true that they have not mounted any sort of defence to his story? God help him and the other witnesses because they surely don't intend to allow this to get to court. They must be appalled at the thought of Rodriguez testifying in open court.
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Monk Pay attention. Rabbit went to your SFGate site. Found the article and merely copy shrtcut off the link to the page. Here it is pasted: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/10/12/notes101205.DTL ------------------------------------------- This one is copied from the Address bar after opening the link from the main page, you will see it is the same: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/10/12/notes101205.DTL ------------------------------------------------ Copy and paste either of those addresses as they are and they will take you to the place. Natalie probably won't be able to learn so much so quickly, we are still working on comprehension of Gravity in her case, but she might want to see if this …
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Ah ha sorry I see now. Yes it did happen then as you say. Rabbit will also look to tiny.urls, at least for long ones, especially as Nat suggested them.
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Whit Nat would tell you that the only way to know if someone will welcome you with love and flowers when you bomb them, is to bomb them. Then if that didn't work make a movie with some actors handing over some flowers and making a speech.
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That's not a marketing thing Natalie, why always so cynical. It is meant as a courtesy when Rabbit posts thus and it is taken as one when you do also. No apologies necessary and it is not a concession. So long as you pick up the ESSENTIAL matter of important facts, eg: Witnesses, upon your anticipated return. Rabbit will miss Nat, but will find something to do in the emantime, have no fear. Stay safe and TRY to be good.
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There is nothing positive in that story about Iraqi children. It is nothing but a blatant emotional piece. So some kids get a few hours to play safely in the streets. Not as safely as they were able before their country was invaded of course. In a few hours they will be in danger of being accidently or intentioanlly bombed by Co-alition forces or Iraqi Puppet troops. They will be at risk of being blown up by roadisde bombs set by insurgents as well as false flag ops by co-alition forces, a now proven fact. The election they have just held …
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Good article on Iraq David. Rabbit has just finished reading your previous source. One seee a few good pieces on the WSW site. This quote: "These provisions written into the draft at Washington’s behest constitute a textbook illustration of why, under the Geneva Conventions, occupying powers are barred from rewriting the legal systems of the countries that they occupy. Hailed as another “turning point” in the struggle for “democracy,” the draft constitution represents in the final analysis a continuation and deepening of the war crimes carried out by US and British imperialism in launching their war of aggression against Iraq." "On …
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Natalie just a short one for now it is late and Rabbit will have more time tomorrow. Just to clarify you don't know what Rabbit thinks exactly happened to flight 93, or any motives, for I have not said anything about it. Rabbit is of the opinion that it was probably shot down, on the orders of somebody who was defying his superiors. As mentioned before the authority to shoot down a civilian airliner had belonged to Rank of General until about a month before 911 if my info is correct. Such an officer may have exceeded his authority, but for …
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The following is by an Iraqi woman. "“The referendum promises to be somewhat confusing. People are saying it should be postponed. Now is not the right time. More changes were made a few days ago to the supposed ‘final’ draft of the constitution- the one that was submitted to the UN. It was allegedly done to appease Sunnis. The trouble is that it didn’t address the actual problems Iraqis have with the constitution (Sunnis and Shia alike). The focus of negotiations by ‘Sunni representatives’ seemed to revolve around Iraq’s Arab identity and de-Ba’athification. A clause has also been added which says …
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Try and have a look at this girl's views, she is from Mosul, and has become more and more dissapointed with what is happening to her country. http://astarfrommosul.blogspot.com/ Take note of the exceptional reasoning and common sense of these people. Read some of River's earlier postings Nat, get a feel for the position these girls, not much different from you are in. These are two of those supposed Muslim Extremists. You will see from theirs and others' blogs how they are gradually being radicalised, maybe not River, she is an Angel, but the other sweetie is younger and you can see …
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Wonder if the kids killed by the F15 attack on Monday were the same ones who were playing hopefully in the streets on referendum day. "Baghdad - A U.S. fighter jet bombed a crowd gathered around a burned Humvee on the edge of a western provincial capital, killing 25 people, including 18 children, hospital officials and family members said Monday". "Fuad said the dead included his 4-year-old son, Saad Ahmed Fuad, and his 8-year-old daughter, Haifa Ahmed Fuad. Fuad said he was unable to find one of his 8-year-old daughter's legs, and had to bury her without them. Another boy, 6-year-old …
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Rabbit is a man first an Australian second. I will not follow a corrupt and evil cause even if is has my country's name on it. Natalie is not a good person to those who are wondering how she can support the things she does. We know already that she is an apologist for using Depleted Uranium, ignoring the risks to US troops and she is absolutely un-interested in the effects on the civilian population. Do not mistake her as being merely mis-informed, she answers by saying simply that DU is no more dangerous than lead and killing innocents is justified …
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Nat the polular mechanics article "MADE UP" the conspiracy theory they attacked about the engine part. This was as said one of their tactics. Address some small part of another theory while ignoring the overall theory and "ALL" the evidence which led to it. The Popular Mechanics article was a hit piece and as such it was HISTORICALLY unsuccessful. Now WITNESSES Natalie, how does Popular Mechanics account for witnesses? Of course it doesn't and Rabbit is looking forward to Natalie explaining how William Rodriguez experienced what he did. Rabbit feels we should establish absolutely that the WTC's were brought down with …
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Just because you say you would have resisted Nazism, does not make it so. We are people who would have and do resist Fascism, if we say you are a NAZI, then you probably are. You would have been arguing for the Fuerer and the glorious third reich Natalie, and that is an absolute given.. Your soul is sold now, it would have been then.
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David says: "there is no right or wrong result" Anyone in the top right quadrant is an a*shole.
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They are the pricks too, and they are not that hard to kick, Rabbit will keep kicking the PRICKS. HOWARD and BUSH were of course right there in the thick of it, they are both A*seholes and they are both Pricks. Therefore anybody in that field is both. Deluded? Of course they are bloody deluded, that is what makes them a*seholes and pricks. Self imposed delusions, WILLFUL IGNORANCE is not a defence, it is the CRIME. Not up to Rabbit's usual standard of logic, but why should one be excessively logical about wacking illogical creatures? Wow Whit, Rabbit is impressed. Rabbit …
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Mouse: Why cannot people face the truth about 911? Rabbit: They would have to change all their ideas to allow for such a fundamental error of judgement..Mouse. Mouse: Is that all? Even Mouse can afford to change all his ideas. Rabbit: Yes mouse, but you don't have many ideas to change after all.................... People have lots more ideas than a mouse. Mouse: What good does that do them if they are mostly wrong? Rabbit: Rabbit does not know, Mouse.............. Rabbit does not know.
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Whit You so often speak Rabbit's heart for him and he will own all you say. Rabbit always hopes that these discussions will be mutually honest voyages of discovery. This thread never really did gain a serious opposition. the facts was that the context was always too real and thus untouchable by mere faith based argument. Rabbit always knew this would be anathema to the GOD Squad, and was not surprised to see them all fall so quickly. Admittedly those who came were not true God Squad, but they held the same views which was always the most telling to those …
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In two speeches to overflow crowds in New York last weekend, notable theologian David Ray Griffin argued that recently revealed evidence seals the case that the Twin Towers and WTC-7 were destroyed by controlled demolition with explosives. Despite the many enduring mysteries of the 9/11 attacks, Dr. Griffin concluded, "It is already possible to know, beyond a reasonable doubt, one very important thing: the destruction of the World Trade Center was an inside job, orchestrated by terrorists within our own government." The rest of the story
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WTH the small query of yours is valid, but jumping to conclusions about the answer is not. Let us seek an answer. Griffin is well known and has a lot of credit for his books. He is not one but one of many who are writing such things and more. The fact of him being a theologian is of literally no consequence to rabbit or many other poeple, any suggestion that it is is ridiculous. What is the suggestion that some left wing conspiracy has selected such a man as a deliberate vehicle of misinformation or something? Griffin happens to be …
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Sorry Rabbti meant columns not trusses. In searching for information about the columns Rabbit has found a gem. OK so they are obviously a little over thirty feet some of them, point is they are there, described by engineers who cleaned up the site. “One day we got notice that there was an 800-ton crane on the way to the site, and it had to go right next to the opening on the slurry wall. We were told that we couldn’t approach the slurry wall with a crane that heavy. You have to stay 30 feet away. There’s no way; …
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OM should be PM Australian Prime Minister John Howard Most Aussies doubt he is the father of his children, whoever they are, this is becase we don't believe he's ever had sex with Janet, his wife. ............................... He wouldn't be unfaithful to George. Note the assumption of Arse licker in an article by even a conservative commentator from a couple years back.
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No the revised scores are where you would be if you were someone else. The original answers were the most pure. Now for non-science minded people this may need to be explained, but to any scientific mind the answer is obvious. You now know the test, the results and anything you do from here on to alter your original result is of absolutely NO use to the experiment. You are now 'contaminated', no longer a viable test subject.....be gone. The experiment had a given set of criteria. The questions are applied to random subjects who have no preparation or knowledge of …
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Dammit, something happened, this went on wrong thread, ...................................^^..............................
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No Natalie, the evidence is such that it is not irresponsible to call the US government complicit. It is irresponsible to defend them as it happens. Griffin is not calling for the assaination of a democratically elected president, as is Chavez, he is calling for a "Proper and impartial investigation". He and many many others are saying the same things and it is not some crazy conspiracy theory. The crazy conspiracy theory is the one you adhere to and which ahs long since crumbled on this thread. That makes your comparison of Robertson ridiculous. Natalie, what nonsense is this you come …
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Now Natalie starts talking about LSD? What nonsense is this? You now would mention drugs in connection with the names of entirely honest and respected men with no reason or context whatsoever. HOW DARE YOU. What a sleazy trick, what a low down dirty act. What is your problem? You have been given some very substantially backed information which contradicts your views. That is a fact, go back and read about it if you have not, others have and they have had their say. You have so far got nothing on each of the ACTUAL facts we were avble to discuss. …
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Your quote of the Griffin interview is a pretty naive attempt at propaganda. Did you think nobody noticed he merely did not have the information available at the time? Frankly Rabbit is surprised natalie is wasting time on such things as a single person, except that it is standard SHILL tactics to attack the person if they don't like what they are saying. What facts are you questioning which have led to Griffin's conclusions Natalie, What are the facts which he has got wrong? Not one will come, we will go round in circles, the dance of smoke and mirrors the …
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Rabbit guessed where you'd be on the political thing, you should see the discussion about it on Partisan thread, then you would understand that you are deluded and the graph proves it to anbody who can look objectively at it. You are placed where you are, your stated politics is actually somewhere else altogether, because this is based upon delusions that it is more what you are.
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A Commentary for Nat to look at. Click it NATALIE, Rabbit has some new tricks.
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If you want to discuss the graph results, then please join us on Partisan, but do so after having read the relevant postings since it was brought up by David Monk. It has fascinated Rabbit and he awaits for others to realise the true significanc eof what is a very interesting way of looking at an experimental analysis based on attidudes across a broader spectrum than normal Left - Right thinking can accomodate. It would be interesting if Nat can use her mind for anything except avoidance and actually see the point Rabbit would like to share, but there, in context. …
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This guy has met you before Natalie. Time and time again, when I come across close-minded Bush supporters, I witness the effects of an unexplainable phenomenon: a highly dangerous variation of HIV – a condition I call the Hypocrisy & Illogic Virus. Strangely, the most severe symptoms of this condition seem to manifest themselves during any and all discussions of the events of 9/11, The disease is easily diagnosed by the appearance of two disabling features: the need to approach all issues of national importance with an air of shameful hypocrisy, and the absolute inability to use any form of logic …
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Looks like Nat has resorted to guerilla tactics, hit and run. Rabbit has been a bit sorry to have called Nat a whore, it would have been used in the same context to a man or mouse, but it was below the belt in a sexist way. It wasn't meant to be a description of Nat as of her tactics of debate, or not. .......................................^>.........................
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Does it make any difference to the mass of facts presneted? Why should Rabbit use any time on such a petty liitle matter? What would it prove? Nothing. Even if there was no such strcutural engineer, natalie we have been through details which show it is not necessary even to understand such basic forces as those involved, it's in the detail Nat, not the messenger. when Nat can actually face direct facts of consequence and not waste time on Red herrings like whetehr or not griffin had a structural engineer, maybe such questions would be worthy of more attention. The simple …
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Who wrote a book Natalie? Rabbit has not and he has at no stage written about Griffin's work or sources. Griffin has written books but what has that to do with anything?
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As a direct response to your Lousy inetrview with Griffin, is found the following. This should sink your sieve. Dear Amy Goodman: We, the undersigned, would like to state that the recent (5/26/04) appearance of David Ray Griffin on Democracy Now! (DN) repudiates every principle of press freedom that you claim to represent. It was a shameful betrayal to the movements opposing the Bush( ) Regime around the globe. First of all, it is very revealing that you chose to have Griffin appear on your show in a hostile “debate” format. This contrasted remarkably from the easy, non-confrontational (and extended) interviews …
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The letter continued. Check the questions and sources too, can you answer them Natalie? Questions for Amy Goodman (6/2004) Dear Amy Goodman: 1. In David Ray Griffin’s (5/26/2004) appearance on Democracy Now he brought up some glaring anomalies with the Bush Regime’s official story about 911 that your other guest, Chip Berlet ignored. This includes the lack of debris from the Pentagon attack to confirm that a Boeing 767 really hit it. When do you plan to have someone on your show discuss the anomalies with the Pentagon hit? 2. On this program you challenged Griffin to name one structural engineer …
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Yes Natalie, try and debunk this source. Engineers, enough for you, doubting Nat? Rabbit is not finished pounding your spiteful little snippy thing, but you still feel free to talk about witnesses like Rodriguez and the Firemen who claim there were explosions, both before and after the planes hit. Come on Nat, stop dissembling, make a claim and back it up.
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Rabbit knows of this book, but why would rabbit have it? He is a poor Rabbit and cannot just go buying any book he wants. Rabbit was not referring to the book at this juncture in time, and is surprised you would expect anyone to just know to what book you might be alluding after the amount of references and books which have been recommended to you so far and which you have so far refused to acknowledge. Let's stop pissing around with small unimportant things and talk about something of direct consequence. What Facts do we have, which cannot be …
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Natalie it is you who has ignored most everything rabbit has said, especially the most signifivcant things, you disapear for a while rather than answer somethings directly, and b=never address thyem upon return. This is not a pissing contest, we are trying to establish actual facts which support or challenge your lunatic Government inspired conspiracy theory. You do not have the moral stature in this debate due to the avoidance and refusal to acknowledge so much that has been directly addressed to you, and which refferred to FACTS of some consequence. You lack the stature due to such lowly behaviour, to …
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Rabbit will never do another blockquote box thing, he hates them.
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You've "taken Rabbit to task" on those issues have you Nat? You have raised them, usually as a consequence of avoiding much more significant issues and Rabbit has turned each of your challenges into a rout for your cause, without even trying. You have consistently avoided a huge volume of evidence and are persistent in your desire to find individuals upin which to practise subtle and sometimes overt character assaination or smearing. Your tactics have been described with scientific precision in a quote above and what you all you are doing is conforming to a stereotypical SHILL performance. The things you …
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Rabbit who has not ignored your points about engineers at all having referred to the matter in several posts since. Rabbit does not know or care if Structural Engineers collaborated on griffin's book. As far as Rabbit knows the book establishes the known FACTS, and applies simple logic which doesn't even require such expert evidence. The man is not the point, the facts are what they are, you have to make your theory fit the facts, not the other way around. Rabbit did actually post references including Engineers who believe explosives brought them down, better read them and see. That they …
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Hi Liz Rabbit has responded joyfully to your renewed presence on another thread. The time came when Rabbit was tired of a particular poser who was saying nothing but saying it with falshy tricks and wizbangery. Rabbit does not have any more respect flashy things and whizzbangery than any technician of 15 years and Pyrotechnician would be expected to. Dave, who is a curious Monkey as it happens, was a bit impressed with the Moron with airs, so grabbed the info off google only to rememeber he used to speak the labguage. here is a tip................Go to View in the top …
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Sorry Dave and Liz, Rabbit is almost stream of consciousness keyboarding sometimes and this is why always he re-reads his posts. Occasioanlly it takes a twist most unwanted, as in the following case. Dave, who is a curious Monkey as it happens, was a bit impressed with the Moron with airs, so grabbed the info off google only to rememeber he used to speak the language. It is best that Rabbit clarifies this. Rabbit meant that David wondered about Jay and his magic firesticks. Rabbit said no, it is just knowing the language of the electrons, or in this case a …
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Poor Nat, even when you get a freeby cause Rabbit let one past, some meany takes it away. Natalie got close to a point then even if by default. That was a personal milestone I think.
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Uh.........................Natalie........Rabbit would like to point out that this is a thread and it allows the matter of what Rabbit was saying and what he was not saying, about engineers, to be settled in a moment. Rabbit was as you would by now know, busy burying your bony backside along with a stake through your wizened heart, alongside Ramjet the Dragon of Death. Now to what was said, nd notice how many times Griffin is mentioned in the following.............
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Bugger...........................HTML is a silly language, electrons could if we knew how to tell them.
Now there will be more on Structural Engineers shortly, but for now this should remove this small impediment to your understanding, the interview was crap, Rabbit read it. The other guy was pathetic, never mentioning anthing which seriously challenged Griffin. He just said it was obviously too crazy to be tru like you. You are too crazy to be true actually from where we sane and logical people are sitting. Go back and read the italicised post about your illness, HIV as it is defined there. Posted …
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The whole point of such a project is to allow those who have seen these images you mention to understand what exactly they were seeing. Wolf your intentions are very well, but you are still making judgement from a place you imageine to be better or somehow beyond the surroundind world. How can a people who have such an all encompassing effect on the world, not realise that the world does not exist in isolation but is affacted like all things by the eye of the beholder. The people you saw dancing and some using a traditional 'Ullulating' cry which can …
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WTH Nothing Rabbit can disagree with you on, (Happy Rabbit) The fact is that most people are as tolerant and reasonable as you indicate, we too had something like this in our neigborhood recently. A local bunch of racist nutjobs who run about distributing pamphlets and spray painting slogans decided to enter the big time. They did once before manage to set themselves on fire while trying to burn a chinese restaurant, ten years earlier and got caught as a matter of fact. This time these warriors for white Australia, who blame Asians for all the evils of their own petty …
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Wolf Rabbit can see that you are still trying to drag others back into the 20th Century. You can stay there but we the rest of us and that includes our Muslim Brothers and Sisters are sticking to the 21st, if you don't mind. You are trying to sound resonable but you are demonstrating the same old Hubris which says them wrong, us right. Wolf my boy the Muslims have some Fundamentalists who are all eager to put their lunatic doctrines into effect. The Christian Fundamentalists are no less insane or dangerous and they have some equally lunatic and viscious doctrine, …
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WOLF again: "If you can't see them In the distant past, yours was the dominate culture and power in the world. Now it is a collection of marginal societies who fight and bicker amogst themselves endlessly" ....Because of colonial interference sunshine, history, read it. WOLF "But there is a jewel hidden in that coal, deep inside. The only real question is how to uncover that potential. ....No secret, stop sitting on it you stupid big American oaf. "I realize the US and its people are imperfect." .......No you don't you just think that sounds like largesse. "Really just a lucky and …
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Adjo73, Please read all the posts of people before you start replying to them. Rabbit has at no point claimed that religion is to be blamed for what is going on in the middle east. The politics of powerful, greedy robber barons and their economic interests, in particular the challenge of the EURO to the US dollar is to blame, at the momnet. The fact remains that this war is only possible because fundamentalist Christians, in particular been used to usher in a new age of intolerance and fear which has allowed the whole mess in the middle east.. Do not …
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As for who and how well they live together in the middle east, how dare you presume to lecture Rabbit about things which he probably could teach you, young monkey. You made a broad yet accurate point about Christians and Muslims living in the middle East. These are not the sort of Fundamentalist Christians Rabbit has clearly detailed above however. Furthermore you pompous little twerp, Shia and Sunni live in better harmony than Catholics and Protestants and Jews too have their place in various middle eastern countries. Now don't you ever stand up and presume to tell Rabbit anything, you young …
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By the way Adjo, Rabbit can see you may be a Muslim, if you think that will exempt you from a Rabbit boxing if you need it, then you have much yet to learn about equality, and Rabbit will be glad to teach you. You may if you choose read a few of Rabbit's posts about the Middle east and about religion however and find out who you are talking so disrespectfully to. You may also go back to Al-Jazeera about April 2004 to read a bit more of Rabbit's stance on the middle east. Try Steve Pallister for author. Another …
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Uncle Remus agin Liz. Cannot be all Rabbits though that is actually what Rabbit is, I guess. Must do some more reading about "Famous Rabbits" it seems. You are clearly a conoisseur, Rabbit will be your fantasy Rabbit with glee, dear Liz. If you know Rabbit nature you will not doubt it is real. Men could not say Rabbit things without sounding much more arrogant, so its best sometimes if BIG but simple things get said by a small funny looking creature at your feet. Ever wonder why Yoda carries so much credibility? Simple words of truth and a funny looking …
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Do you know this one Liz? http://www.muridae.com/rabbits/rabbittalk_intro.html ................... Where are these God Squaddies? Rabbit has said some things which would normally get them salivating in anticipation of a good bible bashing. They shall be along in good time, patience Rabbit. May have to go sleep a bit, eat a chocolate frog, and clean teeth. (Slightly different order though) Look by tomorrow, Nite Liz. ...........................^^.......................... GoodNite Adjo, practice that dialogue and we'll see if you can do it with two people later. Get a few cklues first. Rabbit does not need you to give him basic lessons in religious tolerance. Rabbit notices …
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Good Wolf, has gone over to the God Squad, where he should be. Took a bit of baiting though. ............... Hee Hee, naughty, manipulative Rabbit...................^^...................
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Question, Is Wolf, ..... Jay Cline? at the God Squad? The metamorphosis from Wolf S Britain (at ADE), to WOLF, to JAY? is almost palpable. Others too have mentioned it privately. The weird thing is the transformation, some complete inconsistencies in what is a strange fish at every stage. Never quite what it seems to be. ..Maybe Rabbit imagines it, just thinking Rabbit........Looks funny though....Rabbit hops away but will be back.. ..........................^^...............
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Seriously................. Go here it is sweet grass for the eating only, but sweet and good. http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/3167
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Crashtech, so a few little points there, some reasonable, what is the overall message, that Roberts is a good choice? You are welcome to that thought if it is yours, but if you think this, it kind of puts a damper on anybody taking you seriously, except for certain people who are an embarrassment to any sentient creature's views. Kuya, the rabbit agrees with you that it is pointless to do profiling. In fact any security is pointless. Anbody who has ever done any time in the can could tell you one very basic rule. No security devised by man is …
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Why wack one arsehole less just because there are even more deserving candidates along the way? ....................^^......................... What is this is there some sort of "BAG LIMIT" on "Arseholes" or something?
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Wolf ignores Rabbit in a Way only Wolf S Britain would do, why would Wolf not answer a little query please....? Nice Wabbit.............................^^.................
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Don't confuse the guy Kaw Valley Kid.
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Interesting quesion.--- "If this were state media, how would it be any different?” Scorp your first post above showed once again that there is a light inside you trying to get out. The second post again showed that you are still buried under so much information that you are unable to form opinions based on facts. Your opinions stand alone and you will selectively use facts or even alter facts if that is the only way to give your opinions any basis. You are studiously avoiding answering the quesion Rabbit has been asking you across several threads now, which is how …
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Scorp becomes curiouser and curiouser. Some not so secret history: ------------ By Patrick Meloy Sept 11, 2005 "After WWII, Europe lay in ruins. The United States instituted the Marshall Plan where the US loaned massive amounts of money to European nations with the condition that goods and services be purchased from the United States. It was a great success; Europe was quickly able to rebuild its infrastructure and industry while US companies made fortunes supplying Europe’s needs. Because so many countries had so many US dollars, they ended up using them to purchase goods and services from other countries as well …
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The only reason Scorp would avoid answering the Budget Surplus/Deficit question for so long is that he has no answer, or so it would seem. ............................. It saddens Rabbit that anyone should be unable to fit a critical fact into their beliefs yet fail to re-consider their beliefs on such basis. Surely you don't wish to be seen as having run away from an issue like this Scorp.
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Reading and thinking LIZ. Rabbit lived in Scandinavia for six years almost from 1987.........I have some stories to tell, shortly.......................This is to let you know Rabbit is here among the grass yet.........................
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Yeh Scorp, and one day you'll be sorry for the peoples of Iraq and Iran and Syria and maybe the whole Middle east, or maybe you'll be sorry for all the people in the world, and maybe you won't Scorp, maybe by then there won't be anyone left to be sorry for, except yourself. ############### with ########### and ############
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SCORP, Rabbit is going to come back later and Jam this up your nose.... "We know how to prevent political murder and economic poverty, and how to build democracy. That is why I am a Conservative. Why in the hell aren’t you helping us?" Right now Rabbit needs to count to ten a few times over before posting after reading Scorps Scat. There are a few things Rabbit would gladly help you do Scorpy, but Killing, Looting and Raping innocent people is not one of them.
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Scorp, Rabbit has to hand it to you, you just go forward in leaps and bounds. Rabbit had to stop and think a minute too and even then has to agree with your comment, at least in the first round. Actually was going great guns for the first third, inspiring and all, but yes a bit on the weird there at the end. Rabbit does however think the main idea was covered very early on, or at least the only one which did it for Rabbit. The idea that to be normal, that to be in perfect sync with the world, …
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Scorp, while Rabbit acknowledges that this is not adressed to him, there is a question which springs to mind. Rabbit has an opinion different from yours in this regard, because he frankly finds the statement by al-Dakari "... many white workers see a greater affinity with the white borgeoisie that with non-white workers. THat helps explain why white workers would act so much against their core economic interests." to be credible with respecet to Rabbit's own experience. The core dissention may come of the fact that we may not yet agree on ideological grounds that "many white workers" act contrary to …
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What made Clinton's performance bad? -------------- What makes Bush's good? ---------------
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Scorp ignoring questions so simple suggests you have no answer which works for yourself even. Most European countries enjoy free health care, excellent social security and their living stadards are high and fairly stable. America is not a beacon of a successful state anywhere except in the imaginations of people like yourself. You are whistling in the dark if you think the US economy is on the up and up. You don't have to accept this, just stick around a liitle longer and watch it going down. A Budget Deficit of $550 Billions dollars and growing is not generally seen as …
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Scorp to offer a worthy challenge to your post will require something at least as long. Rabbit can easily follow most of what you say but you honestly don't prove that Bush has managed the economy well. Lag time is what Rabbit expected you to offer, to explain Surplus and Deficit. The graph of these figures shows that during both Bush 1 and Bush 2 governments the budget went sharply into deficit. It rose consistently and dramatically under Clinton into record Surplus. Of course unemployement and many other factors are important indicators of economic strength and stability. Since derivatives trading took …
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The following is an excerpt which deals a bit with economics between Europe and the USA and it does not seem to draw any long bows from what are established facts. By Patrick Meloy Sept 11, 2005 “After WWII, Europe lay in ruins. The United States instituted the Marshall Plan where the US loaned massive amounts of money to European nations with the condition that goods and services be purchased from the United States. It was a great success; Europe was quickly able to rebuild its infrastructure and industry while US companies made fortunes supplying Europe’s needs. Because so many countries …
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Because of time this is only a start and Rabbit knows it is not a full answer to your post. The trouble with giving a full answer is that we could easily become lost in all the details of economy and economic theory, history and it's interpretation. There must be a more direct way that we can look at whether or not the country is on good economic ground. It does not seem from an overall persective to be so. Rabbit knows that economics can be made to say anything one wants. Rabbit's Father is an accountant and Mrs Rabbit is …
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This is the last bit of Meloy's article and it seems relevant, to the big picture, so Rabbit will beg indulgence for such cut and pasting, but it is relevant to the direction of the discussion. --------------"In 2003, Iran began selling oil for Euros to a large number of Euro-dominated countries. The Euro was already making inroads as a replacement trade currency and this switch to the Euro for oil has played a large part in the US dollar’s declining value. As if this crime against the USA wasn’t enough, Iran also announced its intention to open its own Oil Bourse …
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Other economists with similar views. ................... http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16416680%5E28737,00.html
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The Euro versus American Dollar for Oil trading has no bearing on any of this I suppose?
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One more thing Scorp, please tell Rabbit you are not the original Scorp I suggested was Karl Rove. This is serious, you are messing with Rabbit's mind and while he is going to have to look at your posts in detail, promise, and will give it due consideration, you must let Rabbit off the hook. You are not the Slogan carrying Scorp, from the start, are you? Beyond that Rabbit admires the pefunctory way in which you have now tackled the issues and expects that others more qualified will take on the issues with you in more detail. The main interest …
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Rabbit does think for himself Scorp which is why it does seem to be incredibly naive of you to underestimate the disaster overhanging the US economy. . Venezuala has just pulled it's US reserves and converted to Euros. That is one. Next there will be two, then three, then ten, then a rush on selling up US dollars and bonds. Don't argue with Rabbit, as you say he knows nothing. Go instead and watch what will now happen. . As for any history of economics you have been extrapolating up til now, you can forget it. The end of the line …
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Its all very well for liberal, lefties to laugh, but you know nothing. The Repug's planned all along for things to happen this way. The day was really a huge success and demonstrated once and for all that Americans were behind the President and his war. This also proved that Iraq was behind 911, that Bush is in front of things and that only those on their knees need to open their mouths at this point.
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Is there no way that political systems like yours and ours which have degenerated into de-facto two party systems, is there no way we can cut out both the groups who have come to dominate our politics. We already know there is little difference between the one or the other. The main difference being just the language employed to baffle the sheeple. What difference between a Liberal who works for the big money and a conservative who works for the big money?
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Brian Rabbit was and is in Australia, but posted hard against Bushler from here. Our problem like yours is still those F*cking Stupid Dittoheads who consider themselves to be the moral majority. They are neither moral nor a majority anymore, but their horse is carrying the float. Rabbit has no compassion for anyone who can allow themselves to be tricked not once but twenty times, who can allow evil to be done in their names and who look down on other people as less worthy to live than themselves. They can all go up in the next "so-called" Terrorist attack. At …
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That is exactly how Osama brought down the Soviet Union as it happens. Bleed them dry. He's had practice this time, assuming he is the mastermind and not just a puppet too.
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A repost of relevant rant. Rabbit is actually sorry to be nasty to Nice Americans, and there are many who are as horified at what is going on as Rabbit. Rabbit knows that there are as many Americans who know exactly what is going on and are doing all they can to change things. There are some who are willfully ignorant and there are a vast majority who are just mis-informed. Aussies are no better when it comes to being mis-informed, and there are also many who are doing their bit to change and then we too have our willfully ignorant. …
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You picked out exactly the same line Rabbit wanted to point to. Liberal, Rabbit was making the point in the China thread that Chinese Human rights have been going backwards again after years of improvement, since the supposed leaders in human rights have dropped the ball in this regard. The same is certainly true of Indonesia. Indonesia and Australian governments have been getting very cosy over the last few years. We supported East Timorise independence so we could steal the Timorise oil as soon as they were no longer under Indonesian wing. Our elite forces have been training elite Indonesian forces …
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Interesting, does Indonesia seem too far awy to most for it to be an issue? Odd since, the planet is really quite small.
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Kuya Rabbit thinks the friendliness between Indo and USA/OZ is older on certain levels than any Al-Qaeda bogeymen. There are events even in the news of late which lead thoughtful people to wonder that ther is not a hidden level of very intense co-operation on certyain levels. Maybe no more than a favour for a favour, but something is not right. We are being 'Trained' via media to hate the Indo's, (Witness; Recent F*cked up drug convictions of Aussies over there eg: Michelle Corby) yet our elite SAS are training the Indo's and there seems to be a strangely streamlined level …
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Since this is a little used thread, and OZ gets a mention a re-post of a Rabbit Rant which felt so good saying it must be worth it again. Rabbit is actually sorry to be nasty to Nice Americans, and there are many who are as horified at what is going on as Rabbit. Rabbit knows that there are as many Americans who know exactly what is going on and are doing all they can to change things. There are some who are willfully ignorant and there are a vast majority who are just mis-informed. Aussies are no better when it …
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Rabbit shall ignore the inestimable brilliance of Dr scorp, just long enough to make his own observation upon reading the good article. The Chinese are an ancient and wise people as a race. They have a few thousand years more of civilization behind them than our lot, (Being Aglo/Celtic stock self) This means they have as a race earned considerably more respect in the world at large than they have previously been afforded by young upstart nations like yours and mine. Politics and Human rights in China are not as good as they could be. Nor are they as good as …
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China monitors Falun Gong in Australia, and the Johhny Howhard Governmentk like Australian Governments usually do, does much co-operation and business with China. In fact the Chinese government and the Mafia and Business men who bridge the gap, are all very good friends of ours and Rabbit suspects at certain levels yours. Rabbit hears they might be keeping Americans on as indentured servants, once they cash in their chips on the USA. Then sharing the loot with your present leaders who are giving it to them on a platter. Be grateful for small mercies. The Chinese are kind masters, compared to …
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scorp tells us: The entire article is about the communists striving for success, and often failing to be successful. --------This is an interesting observation scorpy, seems the author missed this himself. I this in contrast to your way of striving for mediocrity and succeeding admirably? "In fact, since Nixon went to China, the driving force behind our China policy has been to increase China’s economic freedom and performance with the object of increasing personal and political freedom." ---------Sure Rabbit is that the Chinese do not realise how much they owe their existence and survival on the world stage to America. Next …
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Kuya You can do better than that. While your points are fair they fail to take into account the history of the Chinese and their very different culture. The simple historical facts which speaks loudest to Rabbit are as follows The Chinese are a much more ancient civilization than ours. They were already old and had been defending themselves against invaders long before our countries saw any westerners. The Chinese have not got any history of interfering in world affairs that do not directly concern them. Typical American Paranoia about anything 'Communist' is nothing more than that. While communism as it …
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Why after thousands of years would the Chinese suddenly decide to become an expansionist state. Do we think they just took a few thousand years longer to achieve our type of civilization? Kuya, it should be remembered that we are no longer the white hats in the world. We began to attack sovereign nations because of our own lies, since we began torturing and incarcerating people against Geneva conventions and clamping down with police states on our own people, we don't seem very credible when talking about 'Peaceful' nations who might yet become dangerous if they advance. Kuya don't you see …
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Scorp, America did not create China. It did nopt help them out of anything. The Chinese have far more economic power than America, in case you are still living in the twentieth century (you have said so before) things have changed. The Chinese are rapidly catching up to the Japanese in their control of 'your' economy. What a weird lot some of you Americans are. Scorp do you even know that the USA is bakrupt and about to collapse economically? The Chinese are probably going to save your asses though you may end up their indentured servants as Rabbit has said. …
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Other than that Scorp, the Rabbit is in general agreement with you. To your credit you can see more clearly the Chinese situation and Rabbit is inclined to believe this is due to having experienced them directly. This in itself should be food for thought for Kuya. Rabbit and Scorp actually have similar feelings toward the Chinese Kuya, no doubt because we both know them personally. Says much if one considers there is otherwise very little Rabbit and Scorp may have in common.
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Liberal Rabbit agrees and it is this "co-operation" to which Rabbit was reffering in Australia. Government and business go very much hand in hand in Oz, (like evrywhere almost) and there does not appear to be anything but support and co-operation by our leaders for all things "officially" Chinese. We too have had arrests of Chinese dissidents with aid of Australian Government, and as mentioned they turn a blind eye to the Chinese spying on these dissidents within our borders. Complaints by Falun Gong have fallen on deaf ears. China was improving it's human rights situation, really beggining to thaw until …
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Triads influence much in China and they are quite powerful here. Rabbit has heard they have a fully sanctioned headquarters in Canberra.
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Kuya it is easy to understand what you are getting at and Rabbit would agree that power corrupts. Your concerns cannot be discarded out of hand because they are certaninly well supported by history. So is the Chinese propensity to live in peace with it's neighbors. This does not deny the reality of freedom and human rights on the ground is far from ideal, as it stands. The concern for Rabbit is that our own incredibly stupid leaders are going to back China into a corner, and the result of this cannot be good. In a very real way, we are …
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MSchi Doesn't work. These places all have historical significance in that they either had been traditional Plagues on China, Mongolians for example or they were claimed for one reason or another, with more justification in history than any similar such "European" claims about territory. The point was not the most critical in Rabbit's argument. The fact is they do not have a history especially in the last many years of "expanding" their influence. If you see economic expansion as something inherantly threatening then welcome to the world that America built. As for such mindless slogans such; "To support the empty Mao …
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Is Rabbit oversimplifying things to take the following figures as some sort of economic performance indicator? US BUDGET SURPLUS under Clinton +$523 billion US BUDGET Deficit under Bushler -$523 billion
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WTH something you said sticks out to Rabbit. "Over the years I must admit to a lot of ignorance about how dificult it is to get ahead or even survive when you start at square one or lower." Now this is actually a very significant statement. Rabbit, perhaps like some others around here does not need to read a book to know about, not only how difficult but how there are barriers to advancement outside ones alloted state. The haves always fear they will be swamped by equality, so actively work to avoid it. The haves have the wrong view that …
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WTH. Please return to previous thread. Rabbit has something to say to you, Tis a little long, but it is "critical" if you are to maintain the ground you have gained. Rabbit promises you will thank him for it. Let us first turn around once and look behind ourselves before we defend the messiah and his merry men. Nothing occurs in vacuum, least of all a debate. You must address the first step fully, you will understand. Rabbit to and fro must weld and grind boat a bit. But is here.
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Same to you Think, he has no desire to be meaner than necessary. Please note that Rabbit's meanest words ever which were censored, have been re-instated on DU thread, if anybody wondered what "that" was about. The lesson in Government disinfo agents is worth the long read. Rabbit is vindicated. .. Dance. Happy Wabbit..@
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g-love, nothing occurs in a vacuum. The current, catastrophe, and a week later it is still current did not happen out of the blue as a single failure in an otherwise spotless administration. Apportioning the amount of blame within the various cells of the administration of your nation says nothing except that you Americans have still not learnt a dam thing. The end result of apportioning blame will not diminish the amount of blame which falls onto the administration as a collective. One hundred percent. Before any Dittoheads spout, acts of god or whatever other slogans work for you, at this …
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You not only cannot see what is happening on your bloody TV sets, now, finally right there where you always said was the only place you would believe it. You still don't believe it. Rabbit knows why you don't believe it. Rabbit always knew the awesome depth of the delusions of HUMANS. It is one of the things which makes them so fascinating to ET races for those who are interested. (This comment was above your head if you didn't have a moment of epiphany upon reading it) Rabbit knows why you cannot see the truth now on your TV's. If …
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Thinky and Scorpy, Rabbit thought you pair had stopped mating, but here you are hard at it again. Rabbit warns Thinky that Scorpy is way beneath you in intellect and is frankly quite a liability to any argument he espouses. Rabbit has some work to do but will be back to put Scorpy back into his box. Anybody who has seen the Unnatural Disaster thread will understand. They may also notice as has Rabbit that you have progressed a little bit in articulating things and you powers of reason give some indication they are about to awaken. DH Boys if you …
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Question: On what basis should Bush and his JUNTA be awarded any benefit of the doubt when there exists as much doubt as there clearly does in this case? What have they ever done right? At what time have they ever intentionally told the truth about any major action they have undertaken? The first time? Or for that matter the second third or fourth time as the case may be? It is one question Scorpy and Thinky, THINK4YOURSELF and you may understand the Rabbit's one question. He only need one answer to get a debate based on the simplest establishable FACT. …
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BTW Scorpthinky drop in once in awhile and let us know how the search is going, and feel free to give up anytime and others will then explain what this means for your assertion that Bush does not lie. That is after all a pretty ambitious statement to make of anyone, but is of course in keeping with your world view. All or nothing. You're either with us or you are against us. Damn it, the Rabbit just answered his own question. BUSHLER said that and blast if it isn't the truth. Does that count anybody, does that count as Bushler …
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GrayArea you are probably right thinks Rabbit, in one sense about the issue of race not having anything to do with the lack of help, not directly, anyway. If we are to hypothesise that this event was in some way intentional from the point of view of the next major shift in public programming, the the race issue becomes critical from another perspective. Rabbit predicted day two that deqaths would be tens of thousands and official estimates were but a thousand. As Rabbit said then, the tragedy is that most of those people are yet to die. This is no less …
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BTW Grayarea, the divide and conquer tactic is standard NWO fare. Bliar and Howard too. The Arse-licker, John Howard is probably the absolute master of splintering a nation down every concievable fault line. And a few made up ones for good measure. Bushler has good handlers in some ways, Rabbit fears Howhard does not need them.
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Kuya, your post is actually very interesting. You appear to Rabbit to have attained a firm grasp of certain essential faults with the prgram, from within the program. This is good. Rabbit means no harm by this, almost everyone has come from within the program or is still in it. Rabbit recognises still a flaw, in your otherwise very articulate, mostly true words, (To Rabbit). Problem comes from assumptions, certain assumptions which not sustained by facts. You always knew the Emperor had no fashiom sense, and even probably recognise his nakedness at the crucial times. Still you think the Castle is …
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Hi, Wwoods. Have you checked the DU thread since last saw you there. When you have a minute check out the Final and Rabbit means final act. He promises you like it. The surprise he leaves to last, as you must. he promises the wait will heighten the pleasure. Rabbit agress with you about the Repugs and their tactics. Fears he does the next thing will be less dropping the ball than the Bomb. Has anybody seen Cheney about Lately. Rabbit standing up looking about, sees something dark off in the distance. Where is Cheney? Don't we seem to be short …
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Ghost is just a vehicle , needed when there was abit of scuffle when a fight with a real dragon spilled over from the Radioactive wounds thread. All is in order again and Rabbit has found a great hunting ground for it seems infested with a strangely fascinating class of "representative" trolls. An de fun aint done momma. Do you want Rabbit to call any trolls out from the woodwork, he knows how to call them, even a couple of different calls to narrow dow the particular species you seek?
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Actually Rabbit is a Ghost because he was, and is still for some weird reason banned, when he first landed as Rabbitvoz. His always handle. But alas rabbit was killed in the battle with the aforementioned Dragon. Did Rabbit tell you he has bagged a Dragon and a Vampire so far? He has indeed. (Brave Rabbit) Well anyway, Rabbit's is never more dangerous than when they are dead, and the rest is history. Except for the somewhat annoying fact that Rabbit is still a Ghost. All Rabbit's words have been re-instated from whence they were plucked in such untimely yet somehow …
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Please share with Rabbit, children. Is it a rare specimen, peculiar in some special way? Rabbit nose wiggles expectantly.
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g-love, Condi was saying just keep praying while the shopping bills she was a payin'
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Rabbit does not want such a worthless specimen as this one. It is sickly, runty seeming, and not likely to stand up to much of a journey. When you get it back to the farm , what do you do with it. You can't teach it anything, won't be domesticated and makes such a mess. Can't do anything useful and nothing even wants to eat it so much it would go much out of it's way for a piece. Nope, Rabbit, munches, goes over to the stream to drink and watch the fish. Let it go.
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This is not within Grayarea either, let 'em grow bigger with somebody else's worms thinks Rabbit. Odd spelling of your Name there, Rabbit has only seen it twice before. Rabbits and another extra special case. Both times slips under the Radar. What is your Grey secret, if it's not too dark?
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Rabbit quiz: Who said this: “Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? It’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?” A) Paris Hilton? B) Barbara Bush? C) Some other inhumane, stupid bitch, who’s good for nothing but mounting, one way or the other. The other way? On a nice piece of Oak or Jarrah burl, cut off at about the neck with the horns pointing upwards, of course, natural like. Rabbit wants a third share in any fish caught with his Rabbit bad Joke. Hint? did someone ask Rabbit for a hint? …
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g-love Rabbit thinks you are looking well. Rabbit has taken the liberty of updating himself before putting his foot in his mouth, in his eagerness to bag himsdelf a new critter. Rememebered how outraged you were on the DU business. Rabbit was not surprised, had heard of it before, does this mean this was news to G then? If so interesting, and good. Bush is not Rascist, he'll screw a Blackfeller over as easy as a white, man or woman. Rabbit has a plan for any situation involving President Bush: Ready, Fire, Aim! It might give the game away about our …
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Since Jabbar Gibson, 20, took a school bus in New Orleans, rounded up a bunch of people, including children and infants, and drove to the Astrodome in Houston. And he did it without special training, but then, this was an emergency. ---- Where does one begin. This is all true scorp. Mr. Gibson undoubtedly has a bright future in Republican politics. -----This is open to debate. His name sounded distinctly un-republican to Rabbit. This is a bold and yet somehow, subtle plan. Perhaps the Repugs actualy trained the driver in all these extraordinary skills not normally found amoung people of Jabbars …
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Scorp what did you think of the Cuban president as primary responsible, evacuated 1.5 million of his people, with less warning, together with their familes, pets and fridges stoves etc. Evacuatted to prepared shelters stafed by doctors, nurses, medicine and food etc. Army was used to secure the area from looters. 20, 000 homes were blown away, full category 5 hurricane with 160 mph winds. Guess how many died, during the Hurricane? None. How many died in the aftermath and cleanup? None. Their essential ideals are being safeguarded by Fidel Castro, as this is the job the Cubans elected him to …
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Scorp is Karl Rove thinks Rabbit, since you ask Brian.
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Jon B as always a very shiny mind. If only all had the clarity and vision. Rabbit would like to take what you have said and add the following. Since the dis-enfranchised "have nots", in American society (as all societies) actually represent by far the majority, it would seem so easy for them to mobilise their masses and displace the controlling elite. They do not. It is not merely because many of the poorest don't vote. Many of the working class poor don't vote. ........... Rabbit is the working poor, he has a small factory and barely manages to pay bills …
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Your war of independance was fought when 4% of the population became angry enough to risk their lives. Maybe it is not how many will support change, but how much they want to change. Enough to die? .. 4%
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Stephen, (Rabbit spells with ph too), Rabbit shall go to your site soon and look, likes Jon B thinking so will do. Rabbit has a plan for direct democracy, in any country but shall see where you are at before saying it. Expect Rabbit to visit directly from there is appropriate. Rabbit is working on trying to reduce all the clutter which is getting in the way of real communication between all people. Reducing things to their simplest components which still work.
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Jon just a note on the looting of apparent luxury items. Some reports were that people were selling these to buy essentials. Rabbit thinks this probably explains most of it. Who wants a TV with no electricity anyway. "a true people’s power, a direct democracy approach. And that includes corporate organizations." .....^^......Rabbit does not agree corporate should necessarily get any say in government. If they are a corporation worth having, they will automicically get support from the people who gain from the corporation's activities. In a democracy like that we are trying to imagine. If the corporation has a separate voice, …
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Rabbit has registered Stephen. Not sure what to say there, or more where. The first comment which is Rabbit's main request of all sites, how to simplify, so that the debates which eventuate can be dealt with coherantly under one roof. For example, while it might pay to segregate groups a bit, to allow some form of consensus, what is the point in an internet debate where the format is unique for many reasons already and consensus is noit really what is being sought. Rabbit's main contention that the way forward is by finding the most simple and universal common denominator …
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Eg: Especially while there are only a few souls. Why not keep it so we are all in the same room at once.? Let people branch away into other rooms as the appropriateness of such action becomes apparent. Not meant to sound like an orgy but, oh well.
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Perhaps since Rabbit is so small and he has so little to say really, he is daunted. The main reason for the concern is the very real feeling we are running out of time, very fats. Rabbit has a simple way to throw out the Government in Australia, or any country, at the next election. It is very simple really and can be covered in a single average sized post, but it is qyuite infallible Of course it's hard to believe a Rabbit if as humans think that the answer is far too complicated for a Rabbit to understand. Actauuly the …
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Please do not be jumping to conclusions. What a way to start a conversation. It is not I who have a big shiny shop front. Have you never heard of Artistic Analogy? The point is being understood, not following some format. There is nothing artificial about Rabbit. Like all things our Name, our personality our very presentation says often more than our words. Rabbit is a vehicle. If you wish to see more clearly, change I or Me out for the number of times you see Rabbit, and compare that to most peoples use of those names. Do not please tell …
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Now give Rabbit an hour and he will have pulled a boat out of the oven, and compiled a brief post which tells it simply, because Rabbit agrees the time is short.
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Part one; .......Define your ideals. Let us begin at the start...................^^.............. .......What is the meaning of life? ---------Rabbit does not know. He suspects it is to find out the meaning of life. ..........Rabbit thinks that we can ask the questions which have more relevance here and now, like what would I willingly die or kill for? -------To die or kill? Yes, these are absolutely irrevocable acts. They can never be undone, they are scary and usually involve a deal of pain of one sort or another, we do not do these things lightly. Oh Rabbit knows most people think Americans go …
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Now in actual fact, most of the people who are dying in Iraq are dying for ideals, both sides. Most of the people killing in Iraq are doing so for ideals. --------------Rabbit has already defined ideals for you and if you have failed to realise that these are the main ideals then you must think more, for they are. Why would any creature not have those above mentioned ideals? Is not the essence of the struggle for life and survival contained within those ideals, do you have anything else? Your car, your pension plan, your boat or your dream summer house? …
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Out of the above simple truth, can be found a creed which could indeed unify your species. It can be understood and applied at every level. Such a creed need only be the basis, out of which you produce a simple document. As simple as possible and containing a breakdown of the reasoning as above. The 'document' as we shall call it should be as inclusive as possible of humanity and devoid of any influence from any other entity like businesses or churches and other groups. Any such 'institutions' are made up of people and if these people gain by the …
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.....Part 2: Uniting the Common People. Most people actually agree on many things and are all generally dissatisfied with their lots. The problem with using this level of dissatsifaction to topple the powers at elections is the way they have divided society down every fault line. They play divide and concquer, you all know what Rabbit means. The big money makes the noise and any real issues get lied about and and are few and far between anyway. Therefore make the message simple and understandable as above. Base a broad platform with no promises beyond a humane government based on presrving …
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Can nobody else here but Rabbit see that this is the end of Wars? They are not natural, they are not absolutes. War is not an absolute. It is a choice which can only have one justification, the defence of one's own ideals, probably exactly as Bushler would phrase it. -----Does this not appeal to the poets among you to realise that the truth was hidden in such plain sight? Nobody need be jealous or guilty they didn't think of it before, humans are only half animal and are thus handicapped at birth, with only Alpha Brain waves mostly, except for …
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Rabbit is not hungry, anybody else, please? Don't go anywhere little Dittohead, someone will be along shortly to box you my pretty.
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""'''But this flood was prophecied on 7-22-05 at Christian Life Center In Humble TX. To read the phophecy go to www.kimclement.com. This WAS GOD’S JUDGEMENT ON NEW ORLEANS..."""" Seems a bit silly to read the prophesy after the fact, who cares now. ......"I pray for all of the flood victims and their families and pray that this will never happen again." ----Why not just read the prophesy and tell us when it's going to happen again so this time we'll be ready. Better still tell Bushler, the new Messiah of The Christian Right so he'll be ready.
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This does not require Bushlers or his handlers co-operation, it will ahppen at the ballot box. Admittedly it is vastly easier in Australia, wher it is really intended to be put into effect. Here it is quite concievable, for a number of reasons, another day. Admittedly in the USA Rabbit fears your end is nigh and sadly there is unlikely to be the will or the time. All such as this would achieve is to force them to drop the final mask and they would before surrendering. The idea works just the same. It is the answer and if anybody survives …
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Since Brown has fallen on his sword, and with Duct Tape Guy now taking his place, things should be able to continue moving along just as well as before. It's good to see that while the most obvious problems are being mismanaged as well as ever, the less obvious (potentially more serious) problems are being more or less ignored. Hope the Duct Tape Guy has a whole box of tape to go around. http://www.rense.com/general67/tox.htm
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Whattheheck, you are actually a reasonable person, when the subject does not involve Bush or whatever you percieve socialism to be. Rabbit has in all sincerity tried to narrow things down to a single relevant fact which could be established and agreed upon by us all, after which we can apply that fact to the differing views here and see where we end up. Now if your support of Bush, who you correctly deduce is loathed by most of us here and as it happens by most of the world's population as well. We don't have to agree on this point. …
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Got a great idea for that story, have you seen Warrior Rabbit? in DU thread? It is an epic and grande story, and is yet to be played to a conclusion. Ghost is a situation not a name. Rabbit is all. Yes on the Political def'n. Rabbit has never dared speak it aloud. If you had seen him taunting the Righties and Lefties sometimes who only think in two dimensions it would make sense. They are yet to learn their ideals, something all Rabbits know amd even funny snails. How can we begin to explain anarchy? Yeast has same ideals as …
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How to chuck out the government in Australia. ..................... Begin with a simple creed, something simple, which cannot be mis-construed and which has a universal significance. For example Rabbit's Four Ideals, their defination and explanation, in terms of their potential for human unity. The idera is to generate an idea which can unify all the different dissatisfied but divided factions in society. Here One Nation almost hit the right formula and Rabbit is VERY familiar with several of the players in WA of One Nation and speaks from some knowledge. What brought a brand new party from nowhere to 11% of …
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Of course like anything it would take some strong and wise people to steer it, initially. There are such people. It is doable. It is Rabbit's budgetwise revolution. Does that help Liz? Said some of it better and short at WM the other day, a cut and paste shall follow should you but ask. Ther are many lovely angles to the plan. It eliminates expensive campaign, gives the media nothing to hang it's hat on as far as policies, since they will be so broadly appealing to do so will cost them supporters and they have none to waste. The opposition …
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Pauline Hanson didn't hate Aborigines actually , she was portryed as such by the media. They crucified her (Actually spelt Crudified the first time, nearly let it be), on a few ill considered remarks. More ignorance than real racism. In fact she only pointed out the fact that they get more social security than White families. She was refferring to the fact that the government was dividing the nation by treating some different to others. . See how effectively they did it. It is all you know of her, and it is wrong. The truth is that most Aussies think the …
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DU is Depleted Uranium, and the thead is Radioactive Wounds of War on ITT. Look at the top of the popular threads. God Squad is going to warm up. Rabbit is delighted you caught a Troll, are you sure it wasn't a Shill? There are two on "Radiocative Wounds of War" and possibly one on "God Squad". Or else it is a feeble troll, maybe something to cut your teeth on though. Rabbit is working at forming a posse of hunters, and can show you a few good examples of Trollery and how to call various types of Game.
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President George H. W. Bush “It’s a proud day for America—and, by God, we’ve kicked the Vietnam syndrome once and for all.” Says so much, paints a perfect picture of what is wrong with America right now. HUBRIS. PARANOIA. DELUSIONAL. WRONG. BUSH. Glad to see you're sticking to the script scorp. How's your ego? Ready for another hiding, cretin.
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Forgot ARROGANCE, though that is more implied thinks Rabbit.
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scorp's astounding insight and elegant turn of phrase are certainly worth noting. He has only to blow raspberries out his nose and the structured factually based opinions of others just crumble before his incomparable wit and wisdom. Rabbit finds scorp scary, know what I mean fellow thinkers? Rabbit has said all he wants on this subject above. One sentence can sum up America, it's problems and why. Thanks to Peadaphile, Father Bush, he set the stage, bred with a monkey and voila.
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No, rabbit just can't. He must risk the ire of scorp. scorp says: "President and Commander-in-Chief, determined that the only way to end terrorism and to bring peace and democracy to the Middle East was to end terrorism and to bring peace and democracy to the Middle East." scorp are you sure Dubya isn't writing your speeches? Maybe you write his? There is something about the lucidity and logic of these words that so reminds Rabbit of Potus. BTW scorp, Rabbit not any shade of Liberal. Bet you can't guess what Rabbit is. When he tells you he not a Repug …
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scorp the most frustrating part of talking to someone like you is the following. The more one gets into it the more apparent your intellect, lucidity and knowledge. As we who would happily engage in an equal debate realise more and more how impossible a dream that is. With nothing offered by you which warrants more than ridicule we are forced to seek amusement by taunting you in creative ways. Some of the wit and remarks people like you inspire is priceless. The frustrating part is that like telling a great adult joke to a child, you mostly don't get it. …
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THINKY says: 2nd) Israel is considered part of the Mid-East and the mid-east wants Israel to die. Thanks Thinky, we knew that first bit. Let Rabbit explain the second bit for you. The "mid-east" as you quaintly minimalise it, is a region. As such it is innanimate. It wants nothing unless you subcribe to Gaia belief. If you mean the assembled peoples of the Middle East, then Rabbit assures you that in fact most of them want Israel to stop being so wicked, treat people a bit more nicely and settle down with the threats of attack and anhialation the ZIONISTS …
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Thinky: 3rd) Saddam was a danger because throughout the ‘90s he continued to hide weapons. Weapons he'd gotten largely off US. So after 9/11, EVERYONE, thought he might still have said WMDs. No Dittohead, you and some people like you were programmed at the time to think 9/11 was somehow related to Saddam and Iraq, but not even by your accustomed stretches of truth could "everybody" touch it. Thinky: (remember Rabbit hindsight is always 20/20) No Thinky that is just another empty slogan. Define it? If it were true don't you thinkl people like you who can see perfectly 20/20 that …
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Thinky: One final thought: (ooooh?) We are not a democrasy; we are a Representive Republic, our congress is a democracy. Democracy = Two wolfs and a lamb deciding what is for dinner. That is clearly a slogan people, it has that same format, but what does it mean? Thinky has left us this final thought, so he must feel it's worth our time. Can anybody help explain to Rabbit what it means. Weird analogy, strange images, disturbing, mysterious and dark. Maybe Rabbit is biased, but fears the wolves' intentions probably bad for lamb unless lamb is a good cook, and stocked …
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So much Energy has gone into sustaining such an assertion, that there is insufficient left to save Americans from a medium size national disaster.
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Thought you were against name calling scorpy, is that all you got left? You have carried on such a structured and effective debate until now, it is a pity to see you lose any ground due to a "momentary lapse of reason". GrayArea says: “The price of oil is effectively set by a cartel. The law of supply and demand is actually a conservative fantasy ... “ Rabbit says: GrayArea's statement may be debatable but doesn't seem obviously so to Rabbit, at a glance. Scorpy says: GrayArea, you need some GrayMatter. You have made yourself famous, even if you are eighteen …
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Thinky, for god's sake get a new handle. Whatever it takes. Just do it. It is like talking to someone called arm or something and is distracting to an inventive and correlative mind. Which is a Rabbit's BTW. Keeps wanting to do bad Rabbit things with Puns and Stuff which Rabbits do, bit like Hobbits except still around. Rabbit is working late and has a workshop job half hour or so but returns. Didn’t have the same ideas or plans.? In the summer of 2004 Putin (president of Russia) said Russian intelligence felt Saddam was trying to attack the US with …
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Whoops, daft Wabbit.
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Wolf asks: What could have *Bush* have done to prevent this disaster? ----Apart from not cut the budget for the emergency services and repairs by 65% despite plenty of warnings? Besides fail to do any of the many fundamental things, in his tenure as president, which would normally fall to the expected lot of a leader of a even a small Island nation like Fiji, or a country like Cuba, which accoring to most Americans in need of their enlightened ways? Or by failing to not finish off his body along with his mind with alcohol and unwholsome drugs and ways, …
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Wolf Rabbit missed a one of the details of your nuanced views. Wolf asks the very relevant question: “Isn’t the city mayor the first line of defense in a storm like this? Why did he not order an evacuation? The governor?” ----Perhaps as the first line of defence he was far too busy standing guard against the weatherists to have had time to order an evacuation? The governor was probably the 'second'line of defence. There you go Wolf, does that help?
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"Just take hold of any historybook and the motives for war have always been the same" They have, but only in the sense everybody was fighting for their ideals. They were either doing this because they knew their ideals were being threatened by the only force which can truly gain by doing so. Tyrrany. Or they have as is nowadays the case for many people surrendered the care of their ideals to third parties who have not got honourable intentions. Religions who live off the chaos they cause, like the parasites all religions become. A creed is enough. One creed for …
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Not every other creature on this planet has the same desire to shortcircuit the process to meeting god by swimming out to sea and burning the island behind them. So if you all want to go having an Armageddon or Whatever you think those big peaceful slabs of stone are telling you to do, how about you all just jump into the bloody Ocean, swim out to Sea, follow that last lot of lemmings. they swore they saw God calling them out to the this time and they are off. ------PLEASE...^^... PEOPLE IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS, DON’T TORCH …
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Maria, all is not as grim as it seems. ---working on that very problem very hard right this minute. That is Rabbit work, 'something beyond the ken a' ye we folk' so take heart and be of good cheer. Let us take back our planet in the name of all Earth. The time is short, Rabbit has never told a deliberate lie and is not prone top exageration. just others take longer to see shiny things than Rabbits sometimes, and it just so happens to be Rabbit's turn to kick it of this time. what you expecting a chicken.(Sorry Rooster) rabbit …
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What about whales, and dolphins, there are specific grievances and they seem most convinced you are capable of communication, most animals think of humans as similar to a .. Human...^^... sorry Rabbit is stumped for a human word on that one, your own will have to do for now. Don't make Rabbit have to rename you as a species. That is often left to Rabbit. He is very fair and holds no grudges to speak of.There is that small matter of Enslaving my forefathers and bringing them to Australia, then declaring them responsible and waging eternal war with Rabbit ever since. …
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Tip toe little Rabbit, past the Dragon's lair. Did it hear him say it, will it chase him here? Just a little smell for now, to stir him when he wakes, bring him from his dark hole,...where rabbit knows he hides Not the silly Colonel Shill but darkness deep inside...^^,,,
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Maria, Rabbits also like Locut and Mango leaves, especially dry. Hibiscus Flowers, especially fermeted a bit in the sun. Wizums (Sultana, but why have another name so close to Banana when they are also so good. Grapes, Strawberry flowers and the green leaves on top of the fat useless red bit. Watermelon and lupins. And about seven grapes. Thankyou.
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Yellow Gummi Snakes, Nutra grain. A Biscuit and Warm Herb Tea.
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Eadora, Rabbit thinks that they are actually yet capable of advancement, in truth Think and WTH have quickly begun to think and write more cogently, Rabbit feels an enlightenment may be underway. Incredibly Scorp has proven to be a man with eyes and not a total dittohead. He has posted in the China thread, and shown that with the right information he can form the right opinion. He was still deluded about the role played by USA in things, but there is light at the end of the tunnel feels Rabbit. BTW the Ramjet is still lurking at the DU thread …
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Either way Rabbit is in it for the end run, but first things first. Peace before war or what is the point. The end result of War is not peace so much as exhaustion.
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TOLD YOU SO. DITTOHEADS! Britsh soldiers dressed as Iraqis caught murdering Iraqi Policemen. http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=156436186&p=y5643689z
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Yes sri oracle, check your Iraq News per mes. I fear it may be so. Problems this end and did you notice all my posts gone also other places and this site re-arranged. Message me I'll give my E-mail. This other computer etc and expect this message too to disapear. If you've never had door kicked in before, make sure you nothing have illegal in possession. They don't need any but any excuse they will use.
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Announcement: This site encourages debate about issues. The truth may be discussed but it is not in any way intended that truth should be established beyond doubt. Any poster caught seriously removing all doubt about any issue which is too unflattering to the US government or its employees will be edited out and locked out of the site. Furthermore their computer will suffer a serious hacking attack. This thread has been re-arranged so as to undo some of the damage via strong but true words which cast serious doubt on quality of US by Rabbitvoz. Another thread on DU has had …
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Henceforth any mention of the mythical Rabbit shall simply say, "He who must not be named" By the way sri oracle the main post on this thread by "He who must be named" which they dissappeared has had excellent response on another site and caused quite an avalanche of reaction, most unfavourable to the Junta.
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Still alive and kicking, once more re-posts the one that must have cracked their shell. By: He Who Must Not Be Named Some of you Americans are the biggest wack jobs this Australian has ever seen. You are arguing about whether or not to re-build New Orleans and who to shoot while the place is still in the throes of catastrophe and the worst administration in history is screwing the thing up so badly that the death toll which could clearly have been limited to a few hundred with real leadership, is probably going to go beyond ten thousand. Most of …
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Seamus Holman you are not looking too good matey. Your point valid from the DU thread. Question I do, why you think it's OK for an admitted pentagon stooge to blatantly lie in support of International War Crimes. But a real human may not call him out on his motives or lies. As for this New Orleans thread, you have no valid point for removing any of Rabbit's posts here. Of course other than that you can, which is of course always a reason for some people. As has been clearly pointed out to you by others, real people, Rabbit's posts …
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Seamus you are a lying slanderer when you say Rabbit threatened anyone, you LIE. Rabbit never thretened anyone except your fantasy world where you exist as some sort of gatekeeper of truth, I challenge you to provide one threat Rabbit made. Further you have allowed others the freedom to express equally abusive comments as those I admit were on the DU thread, but not here. Your spots are showing.
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Rabbits ghost drops by. "In These Times" has regained Rabbit's trust somewhat and he apologises for accusing them of dishonesty. Also Seamus, Rabbit will swiftly withdraw the accusation of lying as soon as it is admitted that Rabbit did not in fact make any threats. Snarled and bit the Pentagon shill mercilessly he did, but no threats. To those who are still demonstrating the elasticity of the human mind by supporting the criminal junta which rules your poor country Rabbit would say the following. You belong to a small and swiftly shrinking minority. Unlike religions, political beliefs or any other cause, …
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Rabbit has finally come to recognise why otherwise good people who surely have the same basic ideals would argue so much. They don't know the difference between facts and opinions. Another fact, upon which an opinion can then be based, a worthwhile opinion. The united states is committing a massive war crime at this moment, unlawfully attacking a sovereign nation and using banned weapons of war under both Chemical and Nuclear categories. Here are five hundred links which completely make the case for this fact. http://www.betterworldlinks.org/du.htm This event should have been a catstrophe with fairly limited casualties, and would have been …
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Eadora This is only the Ghost of Rabbit, but if you will do him the honour of reading these few last posts, and let Rabbit know if he is not being nicer and briefer. Good Rabbit, trying hard to be nice. --Scorp Go read Rabbit's words you scorp. That is where the discussion begins. They should make it clear you are not yet ready to debate with people who really are less interested in your opinion than they are those of people who base theirs on FACTS. You have only opinions and you prove it if you are unable to recognise …
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Social Democracy That is certainly what one would expect if this is the end run. If we still have a choice, then this may be our last option to make it. Just a Rabbit intuition.
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They are great at the mindless invective and quoting so to "prove" their opinions> Opinions one thing. Facts another thing. Present them with one provable fact and....... Guess scorp must be praying harder, because he sure isn't saying anything. Sri do you read Rense? A couple of articles of late have taken Chemtrails from my list of interesting but don't think so, to mainstream and proof. Actually I might otherwise have questioned their validity in this discussion.
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Think 4 Yourself. Do you actually understand what your handle means? Read Rabbits words they are for you. You have the standard delusions of people who do not think for themselves. Evidence the fact that youy somehow think that there are only two sides. You believe that if they don't support Bush they must be democrats. Half your people don't vote, that isn't for laziness you clown. They donb't want any of the idiots they are given to choose from. Many people, most on this thread probably think little better of the Democraps who are probably as close to anhiliation as …
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By the way think4yourself, if you ever learn how to, think that is, think about how many times Cuba has invaded other coutries. Despite being under more real threat over the years from Belligerant and greedy Americans. You wombats could learn not only about humanity and fiscal responsibility from the Cubans and Venezualans, you proably could learn a lot about how real democracy works. That's real Rabbit doesn't mean that meaningless slogan you Americans spout. Nothing sounds less like democracy or freedom than those words in the mouth of an American.
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It is so easy to bury the few remaining Junta supporters, they have nothing but rising hysteria and louder prayers. Scorp, thinky, do you realise what Fidel Catsro is doing? He is protecting the freedoms and way of life of his people. Chavez? Not only the above but he is extending a humane helping hans to the ones who need it most in your farcical state. He is sending more than a thousand doctors, heating oil and supplies to help people who were calling for his assasination a few weeks ago. Chavez stands ten feet tall next to your puny cretin …
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We make a wicked team Eadora, you sure can see what gets Rabbit so hopping mad can't ya. This feels like the day has come, we must ride this swell, somehow surf it to reclaim our planet. Rabbit believes the day is upon us. Now or Never. We can pause a moment to gather the remaining ones who are finally awakening, help them on their feet. Soon we will have to recognise that some are lost for good. You will be abandoned to the Karma which awaits you, foolish ones. Awaken now or you will sleep forever. Thus saith the Rabbit. …
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think4yourself. No son, stick with the first one, it says more about you. Rabbit didn't just call you names, he just did it better than you can. WARNING! You don't know when you are well off, right now Rabbit is being gentle and patient with you, TRUST Rabbit sunshine, when it comes to "no fun" then getting into fight of any sort with Rabbit is last stop. No, Rabbit has instead offerred some simple words of counsel to enable you to understand your world a lot better. Feel better about yourself, proud, (not the same as Arrogance) then maybe start contributing …
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IDEALS as defined by Rabbit, for which he would die/kill. Love, Food, Shelter, Health and a good future for our children. They are none of them given, they can all be lost, nobody can gain anything from threatening those of others. Now that young wombats, is an opinion. You are welcome to challenge that opinion, but there are otherwise only two facts, Rabbit has presented for you opinion. If you can't do it, please go away. If you are only here for a fight, go away, you will lose. If you are somewhere in your heart or mind feeling a twinge …
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See here Bush lovers, things seem to be going quite well. They just shot five defence contractors. The troops who are not helping anyone that is, but the shooting is well under way. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C5744%2C16494579%5E12377%2C00.html Wonder how long before the first reporters get shot?
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Thinky says: One can go back to any event in the history of man and find a report that states not enough money was given to prevent whatever damage said event caused. That is why hindsight is always 20/20. Rabbit says: That is the most ridiculously generalised piece of overweaning drivel, it is not discussable, it is undefinable, prove just one of the massive assumptions you make. If that was your opening shot Rabbit can't wait for the next pearl. Thinky says: It should have been the New Orleans Mayor and the Governor of Louisiana who got those people out of …
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Thinky says: Now I will admit help has not gotten there fast enough, but I think that is directly related to how big the federal government has become, and all of the bureaucracy that comes with it, and I will be the first to admit Bush has not helped with this at all. Rabbit says: Now thinky, you are not the first one to say this. It has been said for days by many millions of people while you resisted even that much. Don't go claiming you invented the wheel. Think says: The chaos in New Orleans proves that government at …
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Thinky says: I have been dealing with hurricanes for years and anyone that has knows they will change direction at the last moment. Look at Charley of 2004. Rabbit says: How exactly have you been dealing with hurricanes? Rabbit has been in a few, some bigger than this one. Other countries including third world countries have had much bigger storms recently and managed to lose not a soul. despite in Cuba for example losing twenty thousand houses, cat 5 storm 160 mph. YThe Cubans with less warning saved everybody, and their pets even. Look at youself you are a cretin. You …
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Scorp was promised, so here is cut and paste from Vietnam thread which says all Rabbit needs scorp says: “President and Commander-in-Chief, determined that the only way to end terrorism and to bring peace and democracy to the Middle East was to end terrorism and to bring peace and democracy to the Middle East.” scorp are you sure Dubya isn’t writing your speeches? Maybe you write his? There is something about the lucidity and logic of these words that so reminds Rabbit of Potus. BTW scorp, Rabbit not any shade of Liberal. Bet you can’t guess what Rabbit is. When he …
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Thinky Rabbit thinks you are funny, good game. Rabbit sorry he use so much of thread but promise try to make it fun for all folks. PEOPLE of EARTH Today we have that classic act of human culture. Dittoheads. The term is fairly recent and Rabbit did not coin it. He like all informed people realised exactly what it was as soon as he heard it. So Rabbit shall not insult his readers by offering a definition, but rather by applying that definition to predicting the outcome of an experiment, and thus giving you the tools to interpret those results, and …
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scorp is of course a Dittohead, but what distinguishes him is his more pointed and personal approach. A greater readiness to embrace violence generally, not for him any of this "liberal" compassion, which he leaves to his more complex, nuanced partner to deal with. scorp's postings will be much more blunt and belligerent. They will generally concentrate on words of other postings which he imagines impugn him in some way. Any imagined or intended insult will do so long as it avoids dealing with facts, logic or nuance. While calling the grown ups bums and idiots in his squeaky voice he …
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We'll get back to your "points" if there are any, Thinky, when Rabbit has finished building your new house, kittens, just play with yourselves, while Rabbit talks to the people.
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The president would not know what to do with a job if he was given one. Dittohead thinky, Rabbit does not want to confuse you, or bore anyone so we shall for the most part just let your pearls of wisdom stand unchallenged. They are seriously challenged in their own right where you haven't actually demolished them yourself in a sentence just prior or immediately following. Rabbit shall instead, in keeping with the day's lesson demonstrate the correct way to deal with a Dittohead. It is not as many seem to think by dealing with all their gibberish as it comes …
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Look I do not think you get it. (says the Thinky). The Presidents job has nothing to do with getting people out of harms way. (Well actually Rabbit thinks this has been contradicted by you already Thinky, but the president does sort of imply he is in charge of protecting the people of America. Admittedly he is convinced his job is to put people in harms way, that seems self evident. Witness he has put more people in harms way, and killed more people than most "despots" get away with before they brought to justice.) The presidents job is getting help …
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People, you will have seen by now what is the Dittohead's contention. He has not yet articulated it, nor can he without help. Of course Rabbit could merely hand it to him now, but he will smell a trap and start backtracking again, back into safer territory. There in the land of doubt, where he is most comfortable. So we shall not scare him yet. Please don't be dissapointed that this was the same contention common to a broad cross spectrum of DH's. All data helps us understand the things better.
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Rabbit also feels compelled to point out that BUSH-LOVE, as we shall call it has been proven to be essential to the Dittoheads. Even Democrat Dittoheads have supported POTUS at least as a figurehead, recognising in him their essential qualities despite bein of the Repug camp. Therefore Bush-love is still a recognisable trait, but in a more passive form. However, when you find a DH with a very poor opinion or even a loathing, next step, of Bush that does not make them "unusual". This is the most recent phenomenon, "Recovering Dittoheads" Don't laugh. Rabbit always knew that Dittoheads were much …
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Eadora, Rabbit just picking himself up off floor. You are funny too, but we both enjoying this joke, eh? Careful, nice Eadora, don't say anything to get us censored, Rabbit made mistake once and he not do so again. BTW Have you seen where Shills are stumped on DU? Eadora, enjoy hunting with you, any other favorite hunting grounds you'd like to share with a Sweet Bunny?
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The quarterly bottom line, any bottom line is not even in sight. USA is Bankrupted, reduced to piracy and despotism in a last minute desperate bid to rescue it's diseased carcass.
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Time to just re-visit this little scorpism. Among the evidence he raised for his theory that anybody here fashions aluminium foil hats for protection from invisible mind control.(Its simpler than that scorpy, you just have to stop watching it.) Scorpy intends this to be proof no doubt of our ultimate delusion "They actually say they believe that President Bush lied." Now what can Rabbit say. Rabbit keeps trying to beat this guy to the punch making a ninny out of himself, but he's just too quick for Rabbit. We shall say no more on this, for we must not alert them …
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As a matter of fact scorpy that supports Rabbit's contention that the Dittoheads we see on the internet, even the common ones like these, are possibly more evolved than those who not on the internet. It would seem easy to compare, but we are dealing with microscopic measurements here. There is too great a degree of error to say for sure yet. Scorpy as DHs go is quite advanced. It is actually quite early in the game where he did indeed "get" something that was being said to him. Again. “They actually say they believe that President Bush lied.” He got …
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Thinky, since you clowns are nearly done here, Rabbit shall just get some of your crap cleaned up. Thinky says: When I say think 4 yourself I mean do not let one source decide what is happening for you. Check all sources (that is how I found ITT). The people shot were not defense contractors they were shooting at the defense contractors, the police then shot all but one of them. Just because ONE source says what you want to be true does not make it so. Thinky you have never been more wrong than on this one you total loser. …
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Barbara Bush said: "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this—this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them.” Easy to see where George got his compassion and sensitivity from. With a mother like that who needs toilet paper.
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whattheheck go back to the start of the thread. If you jump in as blind as this genius, you don't even deserve an answer. The Australian is mainstream and could hardly be considered Rabbit's favorite source. As it happens now that Rabbit has gone to more effort to check this, since you have questioned this Rabbit must be sure. Interestingly all stories about the five contractors go back to Fox and The Australian. Even the sites of Alternative media haven't been running with it. What Rabbit discovered was that the Australian is owned or affiliated with Fox. Not such a surprise, …
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"Associated Press reports that at least five people shot dead by police as they walked across a New Orleans bridge yesterday were contractors working for the US Defence department. A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on their way to repair a canal. The contractors were on their way across the bridge to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain, in an operation to fix the 17th Street Canal, according to the spokesman. The shootings took place on the Danziger Bridge, across a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain to the Mississippi River. Early on Sunday, Deputy Police Chief …
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Thinky, The Rabbit has already dealt with the issue. For your info the report came out via MSM and stood for quiet some time before it was altered. Rabbit didn't realise the connection between Faux And that Newspaper. But as it was merely an illustrative point about Rabbit's contention, it was neither crucial nor necessary even to Rabbit's contention. All Rabbit did was show how truly open minded people deal with information when challenged. Double check before shooting oneself in the foot. Good lesson for DHs. The fact that the story was reported in MSM is still a fact. Rabbit has …
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Thinky, Rabbit has not had chance to offer many opinions. Even though you keep trying to imagine you know them. Rabbit is more interested in yours being based on facts rather than just standard program. Rabbit never indicated he would like for such news to have been tru. You think Rabbit has a poor opinion of USA, for fun? You think Rabbit likes to see a country he thought was almost like us only five years ago. Sure a bit more stupid, sure a lot of funny hubris, but not heartless, cowardly and inhumane. Thinky get over it. You have challenged …
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Whatheheck, Rabbit rcognises the glimmer of light may have seeped under your door. Feels he does you are re-aligning your soul so in a spirit of shared ideals, and hope, Rabbit will be nicer and asks sincerely that you know all he has said on this thread, so you know exactly where Rabbit stands. You may be surprised to see how simple is the Rabbit's message. If you open minded are, Rabbit's words need not be personally insulting. Since Rabbit only wants to achieve his ideals, every one the same, has no barrow to push. Rabbit has a small brain, but …
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Rabbit proposes that since people don't even know what GOD looks like, nobody can agree on much about him other than he's very big and lives a lot bloody longer than us. Fairy tales are good for children, to learn from. GOD fairy tales don't even teach a useful lesson. Somebody else will worry about thinking for you and looking after you, just have faith, no matter how little evdience there is for something. The less evidence there is, the more faith you need and if you have it you are accounted as special? Special allright thinks Rabbit. Instead of seriously …
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Whattheheck. Rabbits when angry can indeed seem rabid, but serves purpose. Perhaps what helps is that the Rabbit knows as well as the victim that it can't seriously hurt anything. ---It's a flaming Rabbit for chrissakes. Attacked by one once and after ten minutes was bloody and shellshocked, but nearly speechless with laughing. -- true story Rabbit is humbly now, since he sees WTH can say what he means and wants to mean what he says, offerring the suggestion that you verify the Downing Street Memos. If further doubts about the veracity of that info Rabbit will gladly find for you …
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5)Saddam sent a delegation to Niger, but it had “nothing” to do with uranium. It is only a lie if you new it to be untrue at the time you said it. ** Indeed and Rabbit cares not about such lies. However, Real proven lies, with foreknowledge, are something else entirely. Especially if they are made by a presidential Junta which has always had questionable legality, (2001 election is being dealt with, Fitzgerald soon, think Rabbit) and by means of which lies, at least 100, 000 innocent people have died, at least 2000 US and British servicemen have died. (Don't believe …
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Think, Rabbit notes also your improved attitude, even if he still would like you to answer his last question to you. Still reckon you are using too many slogans but we'll sort that out. The posts to WTH above are for you too, since Rabbit see's you are ready. Rabbit too shall look in on latest article, but must do some workd here, or Rabbit better sack himself.
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Ignoring most of your garbled rant Scorpy, who is still stuck looking for first base, while others have moved on. Scorpy you have neither hammer nor nail. If you did have then you no longer have the limbs left with which to wield either. You have as it has been so eloquently observed by the good and wise Eadora blasted not only your feet, all three of them, into oblivion, You lack legs, your arms are in a heap on the floor. All without much help from anyone. There is as Rabbit has observed before an incredible resemblance to Bush-Talk yet …
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Former Assistant Secretary, under Reagan: QUOTE "the American people are being "brainwashed" and no longer believe what the founding fathers said over and over, that your worst enemy is always your own government and never confuse Patriotism with support for the government. He asserted that the mentality is "like that of the brown shirts that followed Hitler" and that the government is deadly dangerous, "you can't let the military take over policing". http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/Sept05/060905brainwashed.htm
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Liz you sound only halfway clued up. Please establish more about HAARP and Chemtrails etc. Something Rabbit had at the end of a list of interesting, but not very credible theories. Stop assuming that by putting CONSPIRACY in fornt of THEORIES as if that diminishes the value of the theories somehow. It is a dead giveawy to open minded people who define theories in a mundane old fashioned sort of way. EXAMPLE: The official story that 19 Men of Arab descent hijacked four airplanes and flew them into the the World Trade Ccenters and the Pentagon etc, is a Conspiracy Theory. …
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Liz Rabbit is glad and guessed you were as he said half clued up. Enough facts just assimilating and correlating still. Good. Agree the thread should not digress from Katrina, but submit the following. The Haarp ref by Sri-oracle was and is a valid dicussion topic in this context. Unless you are just about having a rant for the sake of everybody letting off steam. Rabbit agrees this is not really critical issue at this point if we are trying to seek the most direct resolution of something specific. This is not to be achieved by arguing opinions though either, it …
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Scorpy you are a classic. Substitute any bogey bogy of choice, for Liberal and you have the standard Dittohead toss off line. That is to say you toss off when you have nothing to say. The only two choices for such DH's is Liberal or Conservative. Democrap or Repug. Rabbit is addressing the following remark to others, Scorpy, you are not ready to try and make sense of something as complicated as this idea. Best not to overreach. What if they're both wrong? Scorpy Rabbbit is fine thank you and his Ilk says Hi too. "Scorpy in his inimitable style, unless …
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Quote Scorp: "They actually say they believe that President Bush lied." --- Now this statement by Scorpy never did recieve the attention it should. Partly since it was adressed to someone he was trying to mate with at the time. See, who said Dittoheads were simply solitary when it came to things like that? In fact it deserves repeating since as rabbit realised at the time, it serves as the vehicle for his central contention thinks Rabbit. "They actually say they believe that President Bush lied." He has not only shown he was onto us from the start, fellow, "moonbats with …
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Good girl liz. rabbit too. But it's bigger than Bush. Rabbit asks again, where is Cheney and what has that toad been up to lately? But these specimens who we examone in their turn are what it's all about, sill y girl. They are by their own hand cannon fodder and it is our duty to blow them out of Cannons.
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Yoda is an imaginary character. Rabbit is real. Rabbit talks like Rabbit walks with a weird kind of motion. Rabbit is the real thing. If you can learn to respect Rabbit, your relationaships with all things will improve. Rabbit promise. You may think a Rabbit can't teach me anything, I am a smart human, who can invent religion and politics and war. What does a Rabbit know? How many religions, or political parties or wars has Rabbits made? Exactly. Rabbit does not want anything you lot have got which he can't find himself and usually with much better company thankyou. you …
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Rhetoric question really Wwoods. But would the Dems not do the same, hit somebody at least with whatever they had to help establish the ....Agenda...^^... Oh no, Rabbit dropped a piece of bait, pick it up Rabbit, no, something will find it a tasty morsel upon which to gorge itself, or feed it's young. Don't go dropping AGENDAS round here, there are scavengers, starving mongrels and the like. There goes the neighborhood thinks Rabbit who was just getting comfortable again. Yes though Wwoods, Rabbit fears that these words, eminently respectable and probably right too will just draw flies. If you want …
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Your question being the Rhetoric one meant Rabbit.
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Rabbit quiz: Who said this: "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? It's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" A) Paris Hilton? B) Barbara Bush? C) Some other inhumane, stupid bitch, who's good for nothing but mounting, one way or the other. The other way? On a nice piece of Oak or Jarrah burl, cut off at about the neck with the horns pointing upwards, of course, natural like.
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Hint? did someone ask Rabbit for a hint? The same one who said this more recntly. "What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (chuckling slightly) is working very well for them."
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Eadora Natalie turns out to be Roger's own flesh and blood, How kinky eh? Sure was feeling that way by the time he got Nuclear Natalie's,limbs unwrapped from their death grip about his ankles. But grim business is Rabbit's Business if must be, Rabbit gave her every chance to repent, Rabbit likes Natalie and was clear about his entirely honourable intentions all along, but she would not relinquich pledge to the Vampires, so down came Rabbit's sword. it was swif and merciful. When the sweet child comes seeking out her one true love, Rabbit, he will be waiting for her, eager …
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Wwoods Rabbit understands. Something happens to Rabbit words sometimes too, funny electrons. Cool you don't go with the Weather mainupulations, yet. Rabbit mentions that until a few weeks ago, he had read much and even found the science of some of the weather stuff, interesting, but Rabbit not buying. Then recently some stuff came out from first several pilots(military) and then the German Governnment. The Cehemtrail angle of the theorires is out of the box, so to speak. The far more awesome Scalar stuff, based on Teslas work, is still not home and hosed to Rabbit who otherwise has an intuitive …
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Wwoods, the Rabbit reads and re-reads you. You are very fine. To have found the fundamental rightness from within the program. There are many on this site, and very practical Rabbit is here to bring you together with many others good like you. You have more in common with many more people than you think. You know much but there is much to be learnt. Your scecticism is a useful tool but it is not a hammer. It should be used as a dust extractor. You want simple clue? LEFT...........................................RIGHT The two markers are the boundaries. Everybody lives in between, except …
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LEFT..........................................................................................RIGHT Everybody lives in between. They spend their time arguing about how far they, are in relation to each other, between the two boundaries. VERY TWO DIMENSIONAL THINKING everybody. Those who recognise this only begin, to gain a third dimension. Time must be understood the same. That is a four dimensional personality. Most will never meet such a being, in a single lifetime. These are not gods, they are jokers. Pawns even but with no less versatility and by no means barred from comprehending their role. The pawn may not be much, his sword is short and his legs are too. …
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The Blackwater mercenaries are now deployed in New Orleans. Why do you need 300 of these animals "HELPING" in New Orleans? Why not just release three hundred hungry Tigers? See the following video and tell Rabbit you wouldn't skin these mongrels and hang them from a bridge if you caught them murdering your countrymen with such hideous banality. Notice that nobody is shooting back until very late in the game. Sounds like some lone soul finally had enough of being taken pot shots at. http://home.att.net/~texmextex/Blackwater_sniper_moveie.htm
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In fact the Junta and it's satellites in Britain and Oz have reversed an old saying which usually held water. Never attribute to malevolence anything which could simply be explained by incompetence. There just isn't that much incompetence in one country is there? David, you're right no doubt. Have you seen the bit of video footage showing some in action in baghdad? Who would not skin them and hang them from a bridge too if they murdered one's own countrymen with such Banal brutality. Truly a study in the "Banality of Evil" (Thanks Eadora, the concept is a light of itself) …
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How long since you saw the emperor has no clothes, Marge? Rabbit detects that wide eyed shock which is common to the newly awakened. It is not Rabbit's intention to be condescending, please excuse this worthless Rodent, but you have probably got some even more intense shocks coming, start looking more closely at what, has been said by a small minority once against all odds. once we sufferred and were labelled all manner of things, beggining with conspiracy theorists as if thinking was itself a disease. Now we are virtually the majority, but like we always warned it is going to …
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Rabbit paws too fast on the keys, sorry. Some mispels is better or OK but this got broken. Journalists don't dig! ------- DIG?
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Good Marge and please don't take offense, Rabbit is abrupt and somewhat in your face but his heart is devoted to you and our mutual understanding. There is nothing wrong with having woken up to the nakedness of the emperor and this was only asked from the point of view of one who has fought these dirtbags for twenty years and has not ever been fooled by their lies and their trickery. The problem is far deeper than a single adminsitration in a single albeit large country. The "wide eyed shock" reference was due to the questioning of journalists desire for …
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Oh and the bad news, you may then be aware of. Who is actually running things, why and how. If a bunch of power mad, homicidal maniacs in control of the White House was all there was to it, Rabbit would frankly just be ignoring the whole human race and getting on with trying to keep the grass from growing too high. Enough to worry about looking after little Rabbits and Mrs Rabbit, a few Turkeys in government in a faraway land aint' no problem for any Rabbit. If that was all it was.
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Relax, Kaw Valley Kid. You are yet visible, while Rabbit is still a Ghost for no good reason. ........ What Have you lost?
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Kaw Valley Kid it alway warms Rabbit's toes to see you about, and sometimes some hard work goes down the elctronic drain. Best to copy save before hitting the post, just in case. Time for socialising is never what it should be. Cheers Rabbit would appreciate any help going on the Radioactive wounds of war thread. The most determined yet outed shills are preaching death and evil and resort to complaints (False) to stifle opposition as well as every dirty shilling trick known to man. What is more it is an issue most any bodsy from any political persuasion around here …
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By the way Kaw Valley Kid, make sure that you don't go from page 1 straight to 4 for example, because you will be unable to navigate back to the in between pages, does that maybe help?
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Announcement: This site encourages debate about issues. The truth may be discussed but it is not in any way intended that truth should be established beyond doubt. Any poster caught seriously removing all doubt about any issue which is too unflattering to the US government or its employees will be edited out and locked out of the site. Furthermore their computer will suffer a serious hacking attack. This thread has been re-arranged so as to undo some of the damage to credibility of a troll who is quite active on this site. Another thread on New Orleans has had to have …
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Eadora, if you don't know what I meant you missed something. Rabbit already answered you last post with "Bunny Quiet Promise" But it along with all my comments has been edited out and if you think it was only my attack of Roger, better check out the NO thread. Weirdly though Rabbit commenst on other thread still there, but Rabbit is locked out and his computer suffered massive hack attack this afternoon. This is another computer and Rabbit slipped in back door. See this thread. It's short and sri-oracle tells all. Expect they find me and shut this handle down too …
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The Ghost of Rabbit still haunts you lying Pentagon SHILL. You are a gross liar, others have proven you to be a liar. Rabbit has proven you to be a pathetic weasel shill as well. You mistake opinions for fact and probably wouldn't know a fact if you were sitting on it, which is no doubt all facts are for you. Something to sit on. You said DU is not banned weapon as Chemical and Nuclear, the fact is you are a liar and here is a fact which proves it once again. It also by the way provides ample food …
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United Nations: http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/(Symbol)/7afeec7003489bb7802567550045e27a?Opendocument http://www.unhchr.ch/Huridocda/Huridoca.nsf/(Symbol)/E.CN.4.Sub.2.2002.38.En?Opendocument http://www.unep.org/pdf/iraq_ds_lowres.pdf Scientific: http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/landing.asp?id=1243 Now if there was any real scientific organisation in the world who would support genocidal ideas it would have to be this bunch of Ape descendants. Even the Royal Society isn't prepared to ultimately sacrifice it's credibility by running with you on this. The truly informed will know what this means. http://www.ead.anl.gov/pub/doc/Depleted-Uranium.pdf http://www.ead.anl.gov/pub/doc/Uranium.pdf http://www.sandia.gov/news-center/news-releases/2005/def-nonprolif-sec/snl-dusand.pdf Other: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0508/S00085.htm http://www.guardian.co.uk/uranium/0,7368,419839,00.html http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/05/1356248&mode=thread&tid=25 Another 500 links here: http://www.betterworldlinks.org/du.htm These links can provide a massive amount of facts, DU lovers. Get some real facts into you then think about them a bit after a while you will notice a strange …
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I swear Roger that this will be the last post I will direct your way if you will answer with a clear unequivocal yes, that you have read the post, taken from Wikipedia, and that you have verified it's accuracy. Answer Rabbit Yes on this one and he will say no more to you or about you on this thread. Bunny promise. Rabbit wants to establish that you actually believe your words, enough to stake your life on it. Your words are putting others lives at stake in our collective opinion, therefore put it where your mouth is and LTC Roger …
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That Natalie, and you know what I think of you. Is totally beside the point. There are over five hundred links included above, many amny more than the royal society. For a sweet all american girl with an open mind you sure seem determined to prove that DU is safe. Your juvenile attempt to be insulting doesn't cast a shadow on the devastating attacks backed by truth to which you have already succumbed. Your persona is false and we know this, nothing about you adds up and you are shilling not discussing. Anyway, The royal society is one, deal with all …
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You have continued to claim you are trying to make your mind up Natalie. You have cheered for Ramjet several times despite the fact that quite a few people have clearly and independantly using many different sources and making clear points, destroyed everything Ramjet is and has said. He has been exposed, last time challenged him on the WAR Crimes issue he vanished until Rabbit suddenly was pulled from the site. The site has re-instated my other posts and Rabbit is happy to let his personal attacks of Roger stay off. He heard me once, he knows how utterly he was …
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Natalie, you are right about Rabbit in many ways, whether or not you realise it. Stop trying to copy Rabbit's style, your attempts at wit go up like lead balloons. You don't fool anybody with your transparent avoidance of one real, verifiable fact. Eadora and Rabbit have been straight up with you. You just keep wriggling. We are not doing more than asking you to prove you believe in your cause. Remember do you how you claimed from the start and repeatedly since that you just trying to make up your mind? Rabbit called you from the start, you have been …
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Rabbit has requested and does so again that you deal with the one fact, clearly pointed to by WIKIPEDIA above. Don't argue it as an opinion, it isn't. It is a fact, if you truly as smart as Rabbit suspects, you must know the truth of what Rabbit has said. Natalie, Rabbit has stated his opinions, directly and indirectly. Rabbit is not arguing these with anyone. All Rabbit is trying to do is establish a fact which is irrevocable, so we can move on from here. Rabbit has said your opinion is yours, but, you must say what is your opinion …
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No hysteria other than yours child, just answer the Rabbit and stop embarrassing yourself. Cannot ignore something as big as this forever. Not even if we are "not exactly open minded" dear girl. You have expressed opinions. Rabbit has raised one fact which relates very directly to your opinion, Eadora another, they are facts, they do reflect on the stance you have displayed from word go. You must either deal with them or nothing else you say looks to be anything than avoiding facts. You want to talk about opinions, yet you won't put yours to the test. The test of …
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Natalie, stop w*nking. The Royal society was one out of more than five hundred references and Rabbit pointed out that they of all scientific groups would bend over backwards for the military. You know nuthin Babe! If that's your point of contention, it ain't worth spit next to the one opinion I'm asking you to formulate. You are yet to formulate that opinion. You are resisting Rabbit's gentle persuasion, compelling you to look at this one real real shiny thing, which is so captivating. The shiny thing Rabbit call it truth, you must but look at it and tell me what …
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Natalie you are starting to gibber. Rabbit simply cut and pasted a few of the links from the Wikipedia site. The DU issue is thoroughly documented history and not some new debate you are buying into. You are patently trying to create doubt where there is none. You have failed to address the one FACT, instead you try and waffle around it. The United Nations and several other bodies involved with what is a world wide acceptance of the fact that DU weaponry constitues a WAR CRIME. There doesn't have to be anything more than "ONCE", your regime falls, and it …
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Just a guess but it will soon be proven either way. The only Corrupt (BY US standards)Dictators who could be called oppressive, are actually the only sort of support the US gets in the UN these days. Everybody else is anti US for good reason as we will establish as soon as you grow a spine or, take back your conscience. If you can sell that so cheaply, Rabbit wonders what else you have on the shelf? and how much?
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Natalie? Ramjet? That's a long break guys. Surely you have conferred with the Pentagon Lawyers by now. Surely you are ready to put your lives on the line for those soldiers you were so worried we might put in danger with our words. Or maybe you were not so sure after all? Maybe you were both prepared to con others into sticking their hand into the fire but no way would you take a chance with your own precious lives. Why is it after you have argued every fact, source and brought up every form of smoke and mirrors an admittedly …
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No Natalie, you are full of it. The answer to the question is yes. How simple was that, didn't know you hadn't got it yet that's all. Rabbit does indeed believe the US is breaking international law. Notice, no capitals, that is because as Rabbit fully understands. There is no International Law by Rabbit's understanding, he not a lawyer either. What happens is you will be arrested and tried according to various things which have been dealt with adequately by the WIKIPEDIA entry, no matter how much you think you can twist the language to avoid actually telling the truth. You …
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You, Nuclear Natalie, have accused compasionate and decent people of putting 'your', troops at risk by defending their right to be at least screened for what most sane people now believe is wrong with more than 250, 000 of them. Australia did it to our troops in the Gulf War. Ours are sick too and being screwed over by the military. But the issue was brought out, our military has withdrawn from using them. They are no longer on the table for us, we are not perfect but nobody can call my country for war crimes beyond supporting Bush so far. …
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WAR CRIME _ FACT Put up your own life on the basis of your FACTS, cowardly Nuclear Natalie. Stop risking the troops lives and nudreds oif thousands of others' Your "game" has long since been exposed, note Rabbit has been vindicated and Re-instated and you gave Rabbit all he needed when the only other posts pulled were the Unnatural Disaster thread, where you and your beloved nuclear waste were in danger of being maligned. Didn't that little stunt backfire Beastmen. Natalie if you can't amass more than you have in credibility for your cause, with all that apparatus behind you, if …
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Hi Shaz, You got it in one. Did you read the whole of this admittedly long thread, see the Pentagon in it's full, outed, glory? This thread is actually representing the thin edge of the wedge thinks Rabbit. Why are they so desperate, notice the times taken between recent responses, compared to when they think they on a roll. They are in Check but are damned if they will call Mate. Why not wonders Rabbit? Rabbit believes the whole thread should be seen as a breach of the weakest column of this most foul temple of theirs. Something which they think …
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When you do Shaz, you might let Nuclear Natalie, who obviously assumes you have not read anything before now, (she's a bit simple mate, doesn't realise yet this isn't like normal conversation, it's all recorded). Natalie, is a sweet innocent all American Girl, who is concerned for her countrymen and just wants to know the truth about this pesky DU issue she's been hearing about.
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Natalie, if you wish to discuss other issues you mention, (electric universe, my aren't we well informed), Rabbit would be interested. You fascinate Rabbit, and as he's said likes you in a straange morbid sort of way. Rabbit has his dark desires too, though they do not involve killing or maiming anybody, in that we are different. Not here though, where it is the Rabbit's unfortunate duty to have to put you to the sword. You are a fascinating female, and Rabbit is sorry to have been somewhat course in his language when indeed you deserved a more elevated form of …
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Nuclear Natalie, This is the sword, darling. If you would do Rabbit the courtesy of stepping up like a lady and taking taking it like a big girl, Rabbit will greet you with a wriggling nose, ears twitching in excitement and anticipation, as Rabbits are want to do, when they say something interesting or shiny maybe. But step up you must, for you have fought like a trooper and are to be commended for it. But alas sweet girl, for sweet you are, much prettier than old Rabbit, alas as Rabbit promised, it is his solemn duty, as RABBIT to have …
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Like you, Natalie, Rabbit has some very simple but absolute ideals. Like all ideals they exist only in our minds unless we make them a reality and learn how to defend them against all comers. The only people who would attack your ideals is a person who felt you had attacked theirs. That is almost but not quite Bush speak. Your Paradigm may shift a little Natalie, if you consider this. The above statement is absolutely true, especially if we know what our ideals are. The words have always said things like "What I would die for", or"what I would kill …
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Natalie, That last bit was for the world my pet. It is time to put you out of your misery. Rabbit has not until about a half hour ago done the following. He has played it by ear. Relied on Rabbit intuition and Rabbit magic only. He must admit he hasn't gotten all details in place, exactly, but all things considering Rabbit has not done too badly. She can see the blade now, be swift, Rabbit, she suffers. Finally acting on that Hunch Rabbit mentioned a while back, about two hours ago now. Rabbit put Natalie Helbig into the Google and …
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Natalie, Rabbit has gazed long into your eyes, his own as insrutable as ever, but into yours a magic rabbit can peer deep and see much. Considering What Rabbit can see from no more than a few, deliberately decietful words on your part, how much more do you think the Rabbit see's now that he has gazed upon your likeness. No way can Rabbit see a wizened up old Vampire like Roger owning such a youthful bride. No Rabbit actually expected the Roger had not mated and speculated upon this very fact and there all along was the reason for that …
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Wwoods, don't hurt Rabbits feelings reminding him of his banned status, and thus need to rely on this silly handle. Ghost indeed. See what the Rabbit Ghost did with Dragon and Vampire on this thread. Perhaps prayer will bring the Rabbit back to flesh and blood Rabbit of Oz. If it's good enough for the Katrina victims, well heh, Rabbit was never one to push in lines, he'll wait his turn. Wwoods Rabbit believes you are onto something with that DU mine thingy. He knows a few people who might be very interested, and they may yet make an appearance to …
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Hooray Daddy is back. What have you got in the sack for the kids today Dad? ""Daddy has brought you some nice Depleted Uranium with cheese on top."" Roger, do you think your presence here is well advised? From what pinnacle of credibility, after six pages of a worse defeat for your DU cause tha the current US rout in Iraq, from what height do you dare address your betters, Rabbits and others for example.
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Roger you would not at this stage concieve of the kindness fate has bestowed upon you. My computer, has eaten a retort to you old boy which took all of twenty minutes to tap out with my wee paws. It was a Masterpiece, in an otherwise fairly drab artistic career. Nothing Rabbit ever does again will come close and henceforth Rabbit shall only aspire for another glimpse. Such is life, the best laid plans of Snails and Rabbits as they say. So you shall have to settle for some drab description of how it looked. Depleted Uranium weapons, Dirty Bombs, Nuclear …
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Roger before you stoop to another of your long, smoke and mirror rants, just to ruin a lovely finale the Rabbit shall let you in on a little secret. Many people have been sendind Rabbit e-mails and Rabbit has been vindciated in all his posts to you , and everywhere you and Natalie manged to handily Tip Rabbit off about who was who. If you missed it this was pages ago None of these people has been posting, for which you should be grateful, in some ways. If you do not understand the significance of much of what has gone on …
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Now for an encore Roger, after having aquainted yourself with the possibilities inherant in Rabbits next and hopefully final words to you, please finish the following si=ong for Rabbit, he just can't remeber the words, and as id Rabbit's want he may spend twenty, minutes, an hour, maybe a day, who knows and if nothing else he will have to make up some words to finish,.. unless you can refresh Rabbbit's memory and tell us the words to your theme song, Roger Ramjet. How does it go, "Roger Ramjet and his eagles fighting for your freedoms......" How does it go Colonel, …
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Not every other creature on this planet has the same desire to shortcircuit the process to meeting gos by swimming out to sea nd burning the island behind them. So if you all want to go having an Armageddon or Whatever you think those big peaceful slabs of stone are telling you to do, how about you all just jump into the bloody Ocean, swim out to Sea, follow that last lot of lemmings. they swore they saw God calling them out to the this time and they are off. ------PLEASE...^^... PEOPLE IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS, DON'T TORCH …
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Finally isn't the word really Nat. Rabbit indicated that he detected something military about you and never expected more than he revealed at the time. Finally he simply on a whim popped your name and Roger's into google and posted an hour later after he had stopped giggling and had a cup of tea. Rabbit was pleased to see his instincts and intuition were in good working order. Rabbit is just warming up in this regard, thrives on challenge does Rabbit. Now be nice and don't mess up Rabbit's nice finale, and we shall dance again my sweet, but not here. …
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Ramjet has been proven to be a liar who never even reads anything he replies to or he would kwow that Rabbit was re-instated in all his posts because not even Ramjets Lying complaints stood the test. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, You childish little twat of a colonel, you just want the last word , what's the point since you lack any profile. .......... If Rabbit ever finds you crawling around the spreading your filth again he will kick your cowardly backside back into the pit of slime you inhabvit with even more pleasure. ..................... Rabbit specifically requested that your comments be kept up …
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One last reminder for those who have been foolish enough to waste much time reading Ramjet's fervent and false bleating, yet missed the essential point that he is a piece of garbage. Rabbit quotes: ..April 11, 2005 -- (Oklahoma City) "Individuals on web sites throughout the United States have complained over a period of months about the abusive and aggressive actions of an Air Force Lieut. Colonel named Roger Helbig," stated Project Censored Award Winning writer Bob Nichols. "Col. Helbig has consistently misrepresented himself and his participation, voluntarily or on a paid basis, as a "minder" or enforcer for the DOD …
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So Roger still lurking about, somebody told Rabbit you were still trying to spin the bull on unsuspecting customers. You have been proven to be working together with Natalie, and an NCO to spin DU lies. We have shown that Natalie is also a HELBIG so she is also now on record. Obviously things got too hot for the Sargent Case (Just a guess) as soon as he was called and if he suddenly pops up here now after so long we'll know why won't we Colonel? You should see some of the e-mails I am getting about you and I …
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Ramjet Rabbit doesn't even know Traprock Peace Centre. As has been covered adequately before now there is not two sides to an ongoing debate. The actual science may be being quantified as we speak, but the fact of the danger of this stuff has not been in doubt for sixty years Roger. the world opinion on it as a weapon of war is before you and is not discussble beyond admitting it is contained whithin the resolutions outlined above, among others. Not for the first time Roger I shall repeat to you that all you ask of me has been answered …
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What qualifications Roger? Can't you guess, it is written all over, how do we see you so clearly? How do we unravel your games with such ease? Don't you guys have some pet psychics somewhere? Rather an interesting tool combined with Internet, actually. How will you fight people who only shine a harmless light on you? Who preach only love and tolerance, and who can show everyone how to see through the masks you have spent so long in building. It all comes down to illusion as your masters know, Roger even if you do not, and while an illusion of …
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Simple Roger, Rabbit has been re-instated in all his posts, as you have been repeatedly told. Your complaints and those of Natalie, which were made simulataneously were shown to be false. Rabbit never did violate any terms of service. Plus you have been shown to be a liar, without any overeaching by anyone except yourself. Do you now wish to alter history? Forgetting are we that you and Natalie have beed outed? She admitted the name Roger, you did too through being so dumb. What do you hope to achieve by lying more. No wonder you guys lose wars so badly, …
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Still think the funniest thing you do is keep on speculating about things Rabbit has long since answered for you. You neeed not guess anything about Rabbit, unlike you he has answered all your questions. You have never answered Rabbit's except by accident as Rabbit has required you too. You even took the thousands of times bait which Rabbit dropped way back when to compare how you reacted when presented with a fact you know to be false. You fell. That time you were short to the point and never waffled or repeated yourself or linked to anything. It was way …
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Nobody wants to play anymore do they? --------------- Who just told you Rabbit is wiping the floor with you, not long since Roger? Natalie was it? -------------------- Not concentrating so not sure, but let it be a warning Roger about who is out of their depth.
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David postulated that the use of Du ammunition is a war crime because of UN resolutions which even in the event the UN was disbanded, (Yes we expect anything of you scum), the resolutions will stand as a testimony to your having knowingly committed crimes aginst humanity. No other detail is required to destroy your case. You won't believe this Roger but Rabbit has kept one last nasty surprise for you, and all you have to do is ask for it. Please do, just do, for Rabbit has an oath of charity which will be voided by your next post. Come …
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Natalie, darling, so good to see you, out of the coffin for a while are we, drink some blood before we go for another little nap? The Penatgon story is very interesting actually, now why would you want to go off on a tangent? If there is nothing shonky going on at the Pentagon "supposed plane crash" then why did the FBI confiscate all video footage and why all the contradictory evidence which has arisen ? This is not the thread my dear so don't waste you time. If you think you can put dirt on anybody by trying to raise …
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Now you pair of confirmed and proven SHILLS what nonsense are you trying to spin here now? Can you Turkeys not comprehend that we know who you are, who you work for and have even got the earlier posts here to prove it? Perhaps people of your limited intellect Colonel could believe that your combined dance above would somehow give credibility where there is none, but you are simply not dealing with such puny, insecure people as you are used to working amongst. The Natalie post is your Natalie giving you a leg up from which to post another rambling attempt …
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Rabbit saw this thread refferred to on a completely different site in Washington, it was described as essential reading for anyone studying the Iraq scenario or Depleted Uranium weapons abuse and propaganda in particular. If you had enough imagination you would realise that not only have you lost this battle, you weener, you are busily burning your own ride out of the place. Now I did promise you some further humiliation but am tired now so shall post it tomorrow. It's all about you asshole though I promise. Rabbit is glad though that you have decided to ensure you will be …
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Not here it is not. Name a better forum. Pale One..................^^........................
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Natalie. Rabbit gave a short reply because that is all that was needed. This thread is about Depleted Uranium Ammunition, it's effects and the morality of it's continued use. You have been part of a concerted campaign by a small group of people who have been proven to be linked to each other and to the military attempt to disinform the public about DU and it's effects. The stuff has been discussed in light of a huge range of scientific opinion as well as the historical experience of sixty years, the combined opinions of a broad range of "independant" people and …
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You cannot be serious about this being a relevant forum to discuss what is a fairly obscure and not widely accepted theory about what went on at the Pentagon. The thing which is certain is that the official story is a lie, and by the way Barbara Olsen looks like she has just turned up alive, so you were right about nobody turning up alive, only until yesterday. You see that is the thing with lies Natalie, they eventually can only fall. Only truth is here here to stay and even it must suffer constant assault by such as you. You …
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Oh for god's sake girl, are you going to say it is a co-incidence that You and Roger are HELBIG's?
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Rabbit did not say that Barbara Olsen is alive but that there is some news to that effect, have not as yet checked it self, but have been expecting it so won't be surprised. Does Natalie know that seven of the "alleged" hijackers of planes are alive and well and never were even in the USA at at the time? Still officially on the list though. If the whole thing was not such a bloody big cover up by everyone concerned then there would not be so many questions. If you wish to deny there is a mountain of evidence which …
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Hi wwoods can you see the beasts have been watching and have arisen yet again? Tell Rabbit it is not extraordinary tenacity?
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Well how about that Nat, Rabbit thought he had you all to himself here in the dark, and you thought so too, with just the stranger with the stranger name watching quietly behind the curtain. He will rise, He will Rise,............... Roger arise and return........... fresh blood awaits you. Rabbit will even give his "Opinion" about the pentagon if you wish, but you must come and ask nicely. He will rise,......................^^..........................
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They are finally reading the whole thread, What is the bet?
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You are one stupid desperate little lady Natalie. There is a reference to pale one as you so predictably pointed out? Now do you actually think Rabbit would be so dumb as to say something like Pale One to you and then come here as Pale Rider? Of course that sort of stupidity would be par for the course for our proven little shills like the Helbigs. There is a connection though between Pale Rider and that comment and though it is of no consequence, Rabbit shall mention it to show what a tosser you are. Pale Rider is someone who …
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Innadeqacy quaint Hare, is feeling a need to post under several different handles to make it look like you have supporters, no what I mean. Innadequacy is being called accurately on all your own personality disorders by someone who you just don't seem to be able to score a point against because you are everything you try and call others. You wish Rabbit was insecure, you wish Rabbit was crazy and you wish Rabbit was half as stupid as yourself, because then you would not feel so inadequate yourself. In this you are wrong, you would be just as innadequate with …
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Natalie is this the sort of stunt that CTG sells the government? Is this what is called "information strategies" ................... http://www.ctg.albany.edu/about/about?sub=people§ion=natalie .................... "The Center for Technology in Government works with government to develop information strategies that foster innovation and enhance the quality and coordination of public services. We carry out this mission through applied research and partnership projects that address the policy, management, and technology dimensions of information use in the public sector. The results generated by each project add to a growing knowledge base designed to support the work of both government professionals and academic researchers. Our guides, reports, and …
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Remember these words Natalie? "Don’t get me wrong. I’m as concerned with genuine health risks as the next person." .....Sure you are. How about this touching moment when two strangers met for the first time, two strangers with the same cause and surname. --------- "Natalie, I admire your guts, taking on these scientific illiterate bullies .. look forward to direct communication." ...........Tonight when you get home dear. Liers. You were not having any luck with the science back thenm either.About ten well informed people making mince-meat of you, go check it's on page 2. Page 2 was one which Ramjet did …
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Go and start using Depleted Uranium Weapons your selves if you love the stuff so much.. Rabbit prays that if either of you ever breed the children are affected by Radiation poisoning. I sincerely pray that your womb is radiactoive dear Natalie, it would be fitting and so just. You are trying to condemn thousands of other women to the same fate and you are an abomination. Get back into the pit you pair of most foul beasts, begone from the sight of God, get beneath the earth. Nor will the earth hide you though you beg it to swallow you …
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Now what have you creeps been up to now, Pale Rider has just sent Rabbit an E-mail. Having just read all his posts, which Rabbit had barely done before, it is impossible to see why Pale Rider would have been banned. Yet he is. Have you two sneaky trolls been up to your previous tricks of making false allegations against people? When all else fails scream foul? Is that your game? It is easy to see why Pale Rider would worry you.. He has all the answers you shameless shills don't want to see at this late stage of the game, …
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Here is what Pale Rider tried to post apparently. .............................. Natalie and Roger Ramjet, The web administrator banned me. I have a separate e-mail and a separate life from the ghost rabbit. Ghost rabbit has to post this thing for me because of this site. To think he and I are the same is typical of your fear of a community of people who wish to counter your lies on DU. Suffice it to say, go ahead and think we are one. That's how we think. I'm not the rabbit and he is not me. You see, Rabbit is a peaceful …
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Natalie for someone who considers their internet intelligence skills are worth money, you are remarkably dull. Lets try Forums 101: A check of Pale Riders Posts here and at WM especially where he is better known will tell you a couple of things right away. Rabbit who also visits Washington Monthly a lot is very clearly a different personality from Pale Rider. It will also be apparent to the discerning that we live in completely different time zones and our posts which overlap sometimes are sometimes made with hours between and at others have been completely overlapping, simultaneous sister. Now when …
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Now hopefully Natalie by posting that last post you have given up the distracting pretence of open mindedness about DU and that you are someone who has no knowledg or experience about DU? Rabbit shall find Pale Rider and will return with his message to you. He was seen at WM earlier today, and Rabbit got an E-mail from him earlier. He has told Rabbit other interesting things and a bit embarrassing things about such as Roger and it was this Rabbit was alluding to earlier, but will save them for later just as a kind of 'surprise' insult. Please note …
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Now Natalie in the mean time would you like to tackle the things Rabbit has said in his own posts, before. You and Roger have become the central issue here, and it is eminently on topic. You are formally requested to reply in detail to Rabbit's actual statemnets to you. Wriggle on the hook, lie some more or take off the stupid mask and act like an adult. Just stop ignoring the numeroues fluerescent Monkeys which Rabbit has released from you box. They are bright and a bit hard to ignore any longer. Nat they are pulling at your hair and …
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Limp wristed little colonel, you forget once again the WHOLE thread stands in testimony to you and to Rabbit. Rabbit has never indulged ion any hide and seek like you lyiong scum. You have been caught cheating and lying and its all here. Rabbit was lied about after you and Natalie and had to return as Ghost Rabbit to undo the injustice and the history of tyhis is all here. Rabbit never pretended he was anybody but Rabbit on both times and ALL my posts stand in testimony to that. You and Natalie are who Rabbit says you are, you have …
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Roger your last little plea for people to ignore Rabbit is really a plea from your wizened up little heart that they don't read the rest of the thread. RABBIT SWEARS THAT ANYBODY WHO READS THE WHOLE THREAD UP TO THIS POINT WILL BE SO DISGUSTED WITH ROGER AND NATALIE LONG BEFORE NOW THAT YOU WILL SOON BE POSTING AGAINST THESE SCUM YOURSELF OR JOINING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SENDING RABBIT ENCOURAGEMENT. Roger wants you to take him on trust from this point on, Rabbit says don't trust him or Rabbit, go back and see for yourself.
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BITE ME Colonel Roger Helbig and Natalie Helbig who are not related to each other and just met on this thread for the first time when Natalie wanted to know the truth about this DU stuff she had heard something about. ..... BITE ME you lying ass, and any more waffling for space by you will be met with another enjoinder to people to read all about it. Back to page one and watch the SHILLS operate. If Rabbit is found wanting say what you like. If you want to say anything except "Good onya" Roger, then careful of the natural …
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Natalie, you are on the how seat you lowly lier. All the proof of your lies and deciet is right here in the thread. Anybody in doubt that you and Roger are directly related, despite your lying claims otherwise, has only to read this thread. You have been caught in every shilling trick, not once but repeatedly. Every body who doubt Natalie and Roger are Pentagon Shills can read the thread and see for themselves. What would Natalie laike them to do? Just take her word and Roger's that there is nothing to see here folks, just a crazy Rabbit. No …
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Rabbit has been remarkably pleasant to these trolls KVK, a reading of the thread will show some very sweet people have met them and become savagely abusive before long. The only way these people have been able to cope probably was to move away for a bit and count ten, as the pattern of postings will show. It has been a struggle and Rabbit has certainly taken abuse to the edge of acceptable on any public forum. It has been done after examing the whole site with a view to not stepping over the boundaries. Rabbit would never have been banned …
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What are you NOT Natalie? ... Are you not Natalie Helbig now? ........ Are you not a Depleted Uranium Shill? ........... Are you not here with an agenda?, after a month of "no progress" ? .............. Are you not a bloodthirsty Vampire ? ................... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NATALIE<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ........... What are you not? ... ............................^^........................
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You incur the anger of all decent people Nat have you not noticed it. .... IF and it is still IF Barbara Olsen is still alive, you don't think there might be a wee problem coming up for all the BUllshit? .. What about the Janitor and 27 witnesses to Previous Bombs in WTC on the 911? Not more problems there Nat? ..... Does the fact that 7 at least of the list of 911 Hijackers were never in the USA at the time and are alive and well, make any ripples even in your stagnant pool of a mind Nat? …
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By the way, seriously. .. You once said that you liked Bunnies Natalie. ... Speaking as a friend and ally of all life and as a Rabbit especially, I must tell you that the thought of a sweet Bunny in your arms is a most terrible one and something that does not give Rabbit any peace of mind............. ...........................Nothing else you have said has been true so far so it is a fair bet any denials of this will not convince anyone either. You could not hold any gentle, helpless life in your arms without breaking it's neck or biting off …
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A small point about your quite poorly supported claims, about soldiers of Gulf War not showing signs of DU poisoning. Excuse Rabbit for pointing out that about 250,000 US service personnel are fully disabled with symptoms which would be said to be DU poisoning if it were not for the desperate attempts by your employers to pretend it isn't. Now the Oz government is still not officially admitting OUR disabled vets with "GULF WAR SYNDROME" have DU poisoning, they did immediately stop using DU the moment the reports started coming out saying it is. .... This thread began with an article …
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Or of course pass the baton to Rambo, so he can ignore the Hard one on your behalf. ....... Been there done that.......................^^....................
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If we have reached one of those impasses again, where truth has become an obstacle too wide, then they will keep quietly in the darkness, waiting to pounce on anyone who drops by the thread and like any SANE and RATIONAL being says Depleted Uranium is an inhuman and immoral way to wage war.. .. ...They will be back, just not to Rabbit before enough distance has come between their last massacre and the new stage they percieve for their combined Shilling Act. ................................................................................ERK!
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Natalie you have not really adressed the direct questions, the thread is the proof why do you lie so? Why would you live anywhere near Roger? . Natalie, you have been assumed to be a daughter and Rabbit does not actually think Natalie Helbig seems very accomplished the qualifications are just window dressing and the stuff she writes is worthless filler, no more. Natalie who has no credibility, once pretended to know nothing of DU and yet has never stopped Shilling for this FALSE cause from the start. You are a LIER pure and simple. . If there was no more …
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Repeats of questions, you lied as expected on the last lot, but the proof is all here. Try and slime your way through these now. A small point about your quite poorly supported claims, about soldiers of Gulf War not showing signs of DU poisoning. Excuse Rabbit for pointing out that about 250,000 US service personnel are fully disabled with symptoms which would be said to be DU poisoning if it were not for the desperate attempts by your employers to pretend it isn’t. Now the Oz government is still not officially admitting OUR disabled vets with “GULF WAR SYNDROME” have …
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David, Rabbit agrees that the missile, especially the missile on it's own theory is dis-info. The story traces back to that Viall gentleman Rabbit once mentioned, which makes it suspect. Incidentally that is also Rabbit's main sticking point with the abiotic origins of OIL theory. And a few others, which I would otherwise consider more probable on theory alone. Healthy Sceptisism David, the kind Natalie mistakenly claims. One is right to be sceptical of anything unless it is either very believable or backed by enough evidence to make it so. This is why Rabbit does not believe the airliner which is …
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Another thing Nat. You have at the least managed to prove that someone might be able to cobble together a defence of DU use to people who don't read the whole thread and don't bother to check all sources when a valis challenge is presented. Frankly that is the best you could ever have hoped for. Come on, your last post showed to Rabbit that you had finally read the whole thread., It was patently obvious you had never done so before that. Now honestly at what stage do you really think you were in front on the issue? Keep it …
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The Third problem you will have from now on, is that since you have introduced a Substantial New topic 911 into the equation you have made an enormous blunder. Probably you assumed that by taking what you must percieve to be some crazy conspiracy line and introducing it to bring discredit on others. Not a wise assumption. For a start people round here know what a theory is and they know what conspiracy means. We only use the two together to mock people like you, we are all capable of discerning that neither word on its own or in combination is …
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We have some compelling stuff to come, and if it is to be dealt with on this thread simultaneously as with THE GOD SQUAD, then what could be better. For the most part Rabbit does not go too deeply into DU on other threads, just enough to test the waters, Rabbit is a cautious creature, fools rush in and all. The damage that will be done to the 911 official story is already predictable, we shall be taking a few new things on board all of us and Rabbit has at least one new thing to add, maybe. But we should …
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Rabbit hoped you would be so stupid and indeed expected it. Like I said I'll be in your burial party SHILLS. . Frankly Natalie I don't care what you take issue with. You are advocating a war crime. You are advocating the use of something which has for sixty years been known to be dangerous, it forms the bane of the Nuclear Industry, how to dispose of the waste. You are so foul you would try and twist the truth, god knows how because you are not succeeding, just so that people can be killed more efficiently. . You have the …
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You are a SHILL, long since proven so your evaluation of facts is a foregone conclusion. If your opinion was worth shit, you would never have tried to pass yourself off as an open minded party, seeking clarificataion of an issue, which you did. . Go back to page one and read the first post of this VERY STUPID SHILL people. . Saddam Hussein, who Rabbit didn't even know had his people checked, has nothing to do with anything, dumb shill. The tests which you are resisting being carried out will be everything. The tests are being carried out as we …
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DAVID is obviously another one of Rabbit's huge army of Anti DU-Shills, of course Roger. Actually he like everyone else on the thread just knows you are full of crap, and a SHILL. . He like others is just pointing to some of the things which they know or how they feel about those things. David's point is relevant and is made so by the entirety of this thread. Roger still hasn't figured out that all the previous pages on the thread are still accessed by people, and can be read, just because he assumes that everything posted somehow replaces the …
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Yes David the aircraft info is good, BTW Rabbit meant to say the same. Especially interesting regarding Pentagon because radiation was measured I believe. Also at WTC's sites, it may explain the readings, which Rabbit has read about somewhere. . .Hooray.... Pale Rider... Welcome back, ITT is a good site to check up on complaints as Rabbit said. They do their duty by reacting to complaints, but that is not the end of the issue.. . .Bad luck Natty Ratty - Dodgy Rodgy. . We have us a DEMOCRACY here, your lying complaints have failed you again.. . Rabbit wonders if …
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Being an unmasked phony yourself Roger Ramjet aka: LTC Roger Helbig, . How exactly do you : . A) Intend to achieve that after failing to do so, dismally all over the internet for so long? . B) Think this will make a scrap of difference to the enormous amount of evidence presented above in this thread and elsewhere? . Did Rokke Shag your old lady or something?
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Interesting to see Nat and Roger posting about same time, see God Squad thread. . Things that make Rabbit's go hmmmmm....................................................^^................................................
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Hi Wwoods, it's good to see you back on this thread, it has come along way and yet nowhere since your last visit I would say. The Rabbit has promised the Shills he will be in their burial party, and it looks like it is forming as we speak. . Too soon to sing "ding dong the witch is dead", but we can start to stock up on shovels. .
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KVK how about joining the GOD SQUAD thread, for 911. Natalie has taken up the invitation to take it there, and the fun has barely begun. . There is already a well dug in Troll, so some interaction between the two species is on the cards, and there is a couple of 911 issues Rabbit would like to share with someone who clearly has been looking at deatils.. I'm particularly interested in establishing exactly how long the buildings took to collapse.
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Wwoods Rabbit has not begun to describe any elaborate conspiracies at all, check. Merely not accepting the official claims of an elaborate conspiracy, especially where conflicting evidence exists. The details are being dealt with on God Squad thread, so Rabbit shall not go into them here. The FACT is thjat 7 of the official list of alleged hijackers is alive and was not involved on 911. That on its own blows the hijackers story seriously apart. There is as yet no way of knowing all of the truth. The one sure thing is that the official story does not works on …
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John we want you on the God Squad thread but Rabbit is of same opinion as yourself. I also have experience in Pyrotechnics/(inc Chemistry) and E*plos*ves and physics. Easily to the extent necessary to know that the WTCs were brought down with exlosives. I have a private theory about exactly how they did the cores, but the cutters were where they should have been by Rabbit's reckoning and quite visible if you know what to look for. The timings of the collapses are the most irrefuatble and provable evidence of foul play though. Witnesses such as Rodriguez and co especially but …
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Wearily........the Rabbit climbs to the top of the pile of Radioctive Poisonous Waste................he plants a small flag, firmly in the ground.................and hops away, hopefully for the last time.................................................. ......................................... ..........................^^...............................
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Small Rabbit sidles up and licks the toes of the mighty Eadora. Amazon Queen of Rabbit's heart. Found some other stuff I wasn't going to post after all since the number 363 was so pretty. Since it is now no more, the following might show why they still argue against the war crime angle, in a lame sort of way. Bush JUNTA actully got exemption for war crimes from UN to start with. They tried to get an extension in 2004, but failed. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CLA20050927&articleId=199
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Silly Rabbit posted the wrong link. Here is the right one. It is really very telling and almost should have a thread of it's own. http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1933.cfm ------------------------------------------------ These are all new to the thread too thinks Rabbit. http://www.ratical.org/radiation/DU/DKonDU.html http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/du.htm http://www.eoslifework.co.uk/du2012.htm http://www.state.nv.us/nucwaste/news2001/nn11107.htm http://www.sundayherald.com/32522 http://www.oilempire.us/warcrime.html
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Rabbit sees the dirty Shill, have you licked your wounds you filthy lying skunk Roger Ramjet? You are a lying shill and like Eadora says you are dead and buried from page one to here, number ten, not once but ten times............. you are the original Cyber Zombie.................... Lurking here like a maggot still hoping to suck some pus out of an old wound. You have NOTHING, You never never scored anything, not a skerrick of a point for your beloved DU. Rabbit promises any who doubt this that the thread shows a clear case against the use of Depleted Uranium. …
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Rabbit is blocked from other threads, but this one is still working......................What does it mean...................Keep wacking the Ramjet, TOAD...........Rabbit must solve this problem, seemed like HE had pulled his old tricks again, but why then can Rabbit post here? Maybe it to will go now, it happened last time like this rolling, help, people if Rabbit disapears e-mail Seamus, the SHILLS have lying tricks up their slimy sleeves.
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Still hopping so far.........Rabbit has posted info saying that 30% of the round burns up on contact with armor above here am sure and that is the figure Rabbit is used to anyway. true about the soft targets, but the stuff is rarely fired at soft targets, and when it is used as it mostly is, in bombs, it ALL burns into Ceramic Uranium Oxide Vapours. These form EVIL Uranyls on contact with water, which is of course what happens when they are breathed in. It is also how it is trapped and enters the food chain via rain and I …
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Eadora It might be hacking attacks or something weird....electrons in a tiz.............Still here.. Better search is Rabbitvoz, but e-mail is no secret, and this is an old one.............. sgp1963@hotmail.com
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Probably the IRE of the Dragon has disturbed the balance of the site for a while, others noticed it too, like a cyber earth tremor almost.. it has stopped and all is quiet again..
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Rabbit will be hopping about on site for another seven hours or so. It is still morning, sun is shining and Rabbit is Cooking Boats. First one is due out of the oven soon. Put in the boat mix, like cake mix only prettier and no eggs or milk..................turn on the boat machine........... cook another boat...................hee hee.............Rabbit does it and people pay him for the boats.
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he has already not answered that one...........
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Ramjet is lying about nobody knowing how much DU is used. He wants us to believe that the military does not keep records. .............D*ckhead........ The military's own figures are closer to 3500 tons thinks Rabbit. They have published the amounts. It is also in the above thread and well covered.
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It is gross isn't it? The thead shows that the reaction has been invariably one of mounting disgust until people just blow their stacks with the whole revolting sham. Ramjet has been here from the start, with a bit of help, which evaporated slowly or quickly, but Ramjet, hero of the Reich is holding the ground yet. Talk about Custers Last Stand. Roger's last stand is this thread. He has been ordered to stick with it and the only way he is getting out is to convince someone to take his place. Like Atlas, a kind of Anti-Atlas................That is the Dodgy …
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Hi Kaw Valley Kid Good to see you still around. Has Eadora seen the Natalie has branched out into 911 on the God Squad thread, oh and by the way, Eadora, are you a bloke? ....Rabbit asks, nose twitching, looking up with small shiny eyes.
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Yuk .....to think Rabbit licked those toes................. Not an Amazon a Mountain man then? Rabbit likes the bush and is more at home there any time. Cheers, Eadora of the mountains.............. Rabbit sees the Monk........................................^^............................................ By the way, the Ramjet practises his deception elsewheres, Rabbit has seen him about the place, just observed him at this stage, all predictable of course, nothing new, he even does the same order of dancing, and the sit and wait spider act.
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What the Hell is going on? Tell me this is not the thin end of the wedge, ? Rabbit said they were DESPERATE to keep the lid on this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ramjet, you and your masters have just gained yourselves a determined enemy. Rabbit declares you, the ENEMY...................................................^^............................................
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Write friends, write everybody who gets to this point, this is the time to stand up. Write to the editors of this site, for a grave deceit has been perpetrated, as any who have read this thread can see, the PENTAGON has struck, with LIES Threats and lies. THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 2500, CLOSER TO 3500 TONS OF DU RELEASED IN IRAQ, SEE THE ABOVE THREAD FOR LOTS of sources and reports. ITT has had it's judgement hijacked, but have faith friends, they have shown themslevs to be cautious, but honest before, so hopefully TRUTH will prevail again, or we …
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Strike and strike.....................wack ..............wack...............Cut and jab the dragon..........................slice it's eyes.............do you get it Ramjet, you stinker? Everybody is awake up to you and your lies and now you have awoken the people. Rabbit warned you, ......dirty Cockroach.. ..........The people will see you and then you are for it, darkness is your only defense..................................the light is on.......................Wack him and tell the Pentagon what People are NOT,/b> prepared to have done in their names. fight this stuff people, or you willl be complicit in the CRIME. ...............................It is a CRIME Roger, or why did the Pentagon need to seek an exemption from international …
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Gather evidence of the true amounts of DU released, and it's forms, and write to ITT, demanding they reverse their position, if the evidence is there. Post it here. Rabbit will have to go back and re-post a lot of things which have already been said on the thread, but we have work to do, ..................weary Rabbit, wants no more of this horrible thread, but we must press on, brothers and sisters.
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Brian Rabbit reads your words, and they are reasonable and the situation is understood. Rokke is not the only source of information about the amounts of DU, the Pentagon's own figures, have been around beofre, Rabbit will search them out, hopefully. Recalls something of a Navy Admiral who had to report on it, or something. It will be forthcoming. In the meantime, since you are aware of the nature of the beast, how about someone looks at this thread, there is an enormous amount of information, some of which is bound to lead to the truth on the best known figures. …
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Depleted Uranium: Questions and Answers on Its Use in War by H. Patricia Hynes and Sardor Ibragimov 4. What happens when DU weapons strike a target? US forces' use of depleted uranium weapons is 'illegal' By Neil Mackay, Investigations Editor U.S. test data show that approximately 20% of a DU weapon penetrator becomes aerosolized particles upon impact with an armored vehicle (9). A 120 mm DU penetrator, when fired from an Abrams tank, created 2 to 7 pounds of uranium oxide dust upon impact, according to U.S. Army tests. From 50-96% of the dust are respirable particles, …
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The above got a bit mixed up. The following is separate from the quoted piece which is from the first reference. US forces’ use of depleted uranium weapons is ‘illegal’ By Neil Mackay, Investigations Editor WARNING The following contains extremely disturbing pictures of actual birth deformities caused by DU. EXTREME BIRTH DEFORMITIES
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Rabbit apologises for posting the above link, i.....................t is the most disturbing set of pictures Rabbit has seen........................ for a long time..................maybe ever. The most terribly distressing thing and this must be said, and you all of you have to think about the following Rabbit words. These are only what came of the first Gulf War, to my understanding, shocking as these are, they are only the tip of the iceberg. This is the work of Ramjet and his MASTERS OF WAR. He is doing it in the name of America and your Freedoms. New scientist, apr2003 But while the …
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Who the hell kind of a new SUPER SHILL do we have here? Rad Chemist, you are coming in here with a highly loaded title like that and promptly launch into a personal attack on a single person after the Enormous amount of evidence already postyed on this thread, and most of it has NOTHING to do with ROKKE you SHILL.
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radchemist IS SO OBVIOUSLY NEXT IN LINE FOR THE SHILL ROLL. You are a stinking character assasin, and Rabbit nor others here have need of Moret's work or Rokke's to kick you back into your pit. If you are a false Shill as expected you will soon give your self away by failing to deal in facts and preferring instead to smoke and mirror your way forward, attack the man, ignore the ball. We're so used to toads like you we could just play without you you know. Come on Rad Chemist tell us how the other FACTS and opinions we …
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Make sure you know what we are saying, start building strawmen, and we'll all gang up on you, finding you so offensive we'll just have to complain to have you pulled from the site, just like Roger did to Rabbit once You had best check out all our references and see just how much you will have to deal with once you step outside of your script which just says, dump on Rokke and Moret. Rabbit had never even heard of either of these people before this thread, having lived for in excess of forty years and been around a bit, …
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Did Rabbit not warn you Shills, you were always biting off more than you could swallow. All you have done is awaken an issue which was, due to public apathy and media complicity not one. More and more are rallying here to the cause you created by just having to go the next step, Try and tell people DU is sexy. Rabbit said when it was just Roger and he, get lost, wack job, keep it up and you'll get more attention than you bargained for. How many backers have you had who have not been assigned to you SHILL? …
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The Fire This Time "US tanks fired 5000 rounds, US aircraft many tens of thousands of rounds, and UK tanks a small number of DU rounds. The tank ammunition alone will amount to greater then 50,000 lbs. of DU. [...] If the tank inventory of the DU was inhaled, the latest International Committee of Radiological Protection risk factor calculates 500,000 potential deaths. The DU will spread around the battlefield and target vehicles in various sizes and quantities. [....] It would be unwise for people to stay close to large quantities of DU for long periods and this would obviously be …
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Again the above is only referring to particles and we have established that The Ceramic Oxids Vapours are of far greater concern.
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Too late Ramjet, your cause was lost a long time ago, witness this thread, anybody who reads anything this Ramjet con artist spouts is adviced to reteurn to the start of the trhead and read it to see evrything these scumbag is and has said. EVRYTHING which has been presnted in refutation to this psychopath, see why everybody calls him a cockroach without hesitation, everybody see's the dirty COLONEL HELBIG lying SHILL Roger's Baby Photos You can't change the truth and it is all here in black and white. Nothing nothing does the filthgy Shill answer, lies, lies and …
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The following is Ramjet's own words and it explains exactly why he has so far established a sum total of zero, in a couple of months of desperate trying. it is the substance of the post that matters, not the number of times that it is repeated on this forum. That is the only true thing Ramjet has said for a while. Go back and see the substance which has been put up by everyone except this professional liar. Substance does not equal a few biased sources and official propaganda. Every important fact Roger has claimed has been shown to be …
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Hooray.......................Rabbit is back................................ Thankyou to the nice ones who were concerned for Rabbit. It has started working now, suddenly, after trying several times yesterday today including just two hours ago...........Rabbit is hopping again, and didn't even have to use new ............ULTRA-Rabbit, know not now if it was a hacking attack or ITT hiccup which Rabbit heard about but which has persisted for Rabbit only, maybe OZ?
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Curious....................Dave.........................yes ........CD Now back to business, Rabbit shall read and see what the troops have posted to Roger's new Eagle. Radchemist......Maybe a methcook? Radcook. Why should we not indulge in Name calling? We have exhausted every issue regarding Depleted Uranium Use, it's effects which are not theory but history and ongoing, and of the lies and the LIARS who tell them. We the assembled and many others along the way, have posted so much information about the stuff the thread has a standing as a reference tool for those seeking an education as RAMJET, hero of the New World Order, keeps …
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Skulker ITT is a Keep it simple site which encourages folks to evolve in small ways, which is not altogether bad. It also has the odd little characteristic, that it adds a space to things which are longer than the comment box. This although cute, does make posting urls, somewhat troublesome. One of the Shills, a vampiress known as Nat the Bat, first noticed it and proposed thesolution. It still needs to be watched when using tiny urls, especially with HTML, they can still break. Rabbit hopes this service has been of assistance. Agree with Eadora, this is not a …
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And HAIL to the Pale Rider who comes like the Wrath of the Gods and brings poignant and overhwelming reality to a thread which has dealt more with real issues and not theoretical science anyway, Rad Cook, late for the date, way to late to change the debate. Rider rides in............ blasts the beasts with an atom bomb of evidential and precise postings and they are left................ PALE.
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For all good people who read these words And who have yet to decide what is right Go back to the start of this tortuous thread and read from all of us what has been said See the evidence listed, with so many sources Of truth with examples and history, science You will also see liars who pretend to be men If you open your eyes you will see them my friend The lies that they tell are proven as false Though they tell them again and again To serious questions they never reply Just so long as they can make …
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All the Good and brave warriors, this is our thread, we have carried the day, Rabbit will be vigilant for the rest of the time, but we all need to ensure we keep the lid on these creatures until the final bell tolls. Midnight. Hee hee It is like staking the Vampires at Midnight, and burying them in the dirt. Rabbit will be here, waiting with his little shovel, ready to bury the horrible Nuclear Waste, along with the shills which came in with it. Dig Dig Dig......................................................^^..............................................
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See the Pentagon SHILL.! Did Rabbit not predict it would slither up. It is waiting to the last moments of this thread to post it's dirty lies AGAIN, get ready friends it is waiting like an epidemic to cast itself across this thread with all it's lies re-newed as if they we're being heard for the first time. Ramjet we have long since got your number, about two months ago, scumbag. You are the clown of this thread the eternal Judy to our PUNCH. You have slavered over the stuff you live to love and you are the filth of …
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Rabbit promised everybody, right here on this thread, did he not? The SHILL Natalie, the Vampiress from hell, has returned. Of course she only heard about the thread from Dave. NATALIE is without doubt the most decietful creature on this thread. She has employed the most clumsily subtle dance of death you will ever encounter. She began on this thread as a Sweet Innocent, wide eyed all American Girl who had never really heard much about this DU stuff. She immediately went in to bat for Roger Ramjet...........aka Lt Colonel Roger Helbig, who had already been proven by his own stupidity …
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At one point the two SHILLS, Nat the Bat and Dodgy Rodgy, combined in a sleazy lie and tried to have Rabbit banned. The thread history shows that this is why Rabbit who was Rabbitvoz, became a ghost. The Shills then returned to the thread as if nothing had happened and began to re-tell all their repeatedly Having been banned by deceit Rabbit returned as Ghosts Rabbit and caught the Shills having immediately, upon Rabbit's supposed demise. Rabbit returned as GhostRabbit and brought the swine to earth once more. No matter how much they tried to tell us so, pigs don't …
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Minutes to midnight, and it is time to look the TRUTH in the eye, consider those pictures and think about the pictures you have come to associate with Nazi Atrocities, and people, wake up, it is already too late, but not to put a stop to the evil being done anew. The Pentagon has used at least 3500 tons of Depleted Uranium weapons in Iraq this time around and rabbit predicts it will be seen in history. Let this thread stand as a monument to the culpability of the entire Pentagon apparatus. Go after Helbig and you should be able to …
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Notice also that they came in order of calling. Rabbit said the Roger needs another backer, and so in dropped RadCook, a new soul with ideas after months of zilch, yet nothing new. Probably the Ramjet, but maybe the Sarge, don't they usually have an NCO, an officer and a tart between them? These Shill teams? Rabbit then said Nata the Bat will be flapping by now that the thread is off and rolling again, she having taken the bait to follow Rabbit to GOD SQUAD, so she could be splattered all over the court separate from this rout, which she …
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Yes Friend Wraith in the saddle, the song was on Rabbit's mind, "Minutes to Midnight" Great Aussie band. Ordinary politician.
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Rappin Rabbit, will crucify you, if you keep on crappin Rabbit will keep on Rappin, and wouldn't you know it he's a classical poet. Pale Rider is a fighter and a man with morals, the SHILLS fight their wars sitting flat on their laurels. Is this a burying party Pale Rider? ............ Rabbit pauses over his small shovel, looks up to the wraithlike figure tall in the saddle..................Wasn't it all going to turn into a pumpkin at Midnight? Here it is Midday of course, but Rabbit lives in the land of Oz, where it is always day.
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Oh shit, it is past midnight and we are still here..........................Rabbit expected it to all go boing and stop, but we are still real, what is this?................Seamus, turn the machine off, ..............................................Why are we still here? Wonder if the Pentagon is demanding it be kept open now, they are not going to allow it to go down in such ignominious defeat.?
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wwoods Rabbit is sneaking back in the backdoor to warn you about strange things on this site. Rabbit is actually been edited out some places and blocked from site. Get's really creepy here: http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2310/ Then go check out the DU thread where at least they might have had some excuse, but then why not here? or on 'exiting Iraq" thread? Still Rabbit and his other computer and e-mail all locked out. This is Rabbits indomitable Ghost. Whooo. Come back to haunt what is either a false site or a compromised site. Whooo! Rattle, Rattle of chains.
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Rabbit takes back the meanness, ITT is showing they good guys. Sorry to be dramatic, but things looked grim for a bit.
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Something bad is going down Jon B and anybody who reads this. Rabbit has been edited out and other tomfoolery. The troll who seems to be very active on this site has been given something of a leg up while Rabbit has been dealt out. Rabbit can be found here for any who wish. http://www.iraqinews.com/home.shtml Expect this message to be removed as soon as the Censors get around to realising Rabbit has come back to haunt them.
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Announcement: This site encourages debate about issues. The truth may be discussed but it is not in any way intended that truth should be established beyond doubt. Any poster caught seriously removing all doubt about any issue which is too unflattering to the US government or its employees will be edited out and locked out of the site. Furthermore their computer will suffer a serious hacking attack. This thread has been re-arranged so as to undo some of the damage via strong but true words which cast serious doubt on quality of US Government or its employees by Rabbitvoz. Another thread …
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Rabbit sorry for being mean to ITT. Rabbit is a feisty creature and can take some getting used to. ITT have shown they are true and have given Rabbit a home. Hooray for ITT. (Sucky Rabbit)
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Late but relevant. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CLA20050927&articleId=199
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Downing Street Memos, Fitzgerald Enquiry. Valerie Plame affair. All nails sure but it is a very big coffin to get all these dirtbags inside. Now Rabbit sees it is awhile since this thread started and it is a credit to ITT that their format allows such threads to stand the test of time. Downing street memos have become a household word but with many still not clear of what exactly they were about. George Galloway Rocks on, God bless the Man among the mice.
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