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    • 04 May 07
    • 12:01 am

    Many things have happened to the rabbit since last you saw or spoke with him, beloved Bat, with the handle of Nat. He has scaled the heights of glory and greatness, and tasted the bitter seeds of defeat loss by cheat and deceit. In short the rabbit has been living, experiencing all that which a capricious and unforgiving life throw his way. Of course being a superior being, rabbits see and hear all, that is relevant, which is why I heard your cry dear Nat, I thought to come and see the flapping Bat. Not An American says hi. Hi Dave …

    Posted to Why Does CNN Suck?
    • 04 May 07
    • 12:24 am

    @Natalie We get report after report from inside Iran about crackdowns by the govt. on people’s freedoms, whether it’s expression, dress, or the ability to vote for a candidate that is not necessarily approved by the Mullahs. Still selling that snake oil you crazy baby. What we get is fabricated reports from OUTSIDE Iran, via Neocon/Zionist con artists and people of similar reputation and reliability, and fakery role to Ahmed Chalabi in his turn. Such increble dribble as the report still bandied about to this day by such quaint thinkers as Natalie, that Jews in Iran were soon to be …

    Posted to Why Does CNN Suck?
    • 04 May 07
    • 12:45 am

    By the way. In the USA, where free and transparent elections are a thing of the past, you only get to vote for candidates endorsed by the huge corporate interests and the Zionists of course. At least the Mullahs are pious men of wisdom and devoted to living humbly and in service of their people. Frankly I fail to see, and nor does any rational informed person see, any reason to censure Iran. It is a peaceful nation with a limited history of interfering in others' business and then only when it has been to defend a victim from aggression of …

    Posted to Why Does CNN Suck?
    • 28 Sep 06
    • 3:35 am

    Hello Jay Decline, good to see the worlds dumbest arsehole is still pretending to be a human. Rabbit just recieved notice from a friend that the Scorpy is seeing rabbit's everywhere. Is there rabbit's in your nightmares little sCorpse? It will no doubt be just another thing for you to refuse to believe my poor fact challenged little troll, but Rabbit posts as Rabbit. He has on occasion been Ghostrabbit and also Rabbitvoz, but in all the years on the net, only these three handles have I known. It so happens that I have not read this article, and nor am …

    Posted to The Neocons Lexicon
    • 28 Sep 06
    • 3:38 am

    By the way, just glancing down the page. That Texas Idiot needs to be called on those phony figures for Americans killed by Muslim extremists. They are totally wrong, and most of the incidents of so called Islamic extremism have eventually proven to have been Israeli false flag attacks, like 9/11. Your real enemies are and have always been the zionists. They are the only country which has attacked the USA in the last sixty years. Cowards. Cringing morons who fear a few extremist Muslims who act against the dictates of Islam which is a much more peaceful religion than …

    Posted to The Neocons Lexicon
    • 21 Jul 06
    • 6:35 am

    Ms Allen, Why don't you just admit that there is no War On Terror, just a War Of Terror and it is being perpetrated by the NeoCon Corporatocracy beginning with their opening act on 9/11. The ranting Gryphon speaks.

    Posted to Thank You, Mr. Bush
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 7:20 am

    Natalie don't please bore me with your kindergarten left wing/right wing analogies. We are progressed beyond such childish antics you and your rabbit. Rabbits don't fly despite their inestimable beauty and grace, and Bats don't make good pets due to their odd behaviour and dirty habits.

    Posted to Thank You, Mr. Bush
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 7:19 am

    This is the hollowest bit of propaganda, with so many holes in it's feeble argument that for once everybody is going to stay on topic as we shred this piece of printed presstitution. Your mixing up and twisting of other people's claims and the completely uncontextual presentation of same makes you look like a SHILL and nothing else. You either know nothing and are copying some other thinly disguised hit pieces or you know what you are doing in which case one wonders why instead of just using shills to repeat the lies the US admin doesn't fabricate some more evidence …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 7:39 am

    One minor point Terry Allen, Faith is a belief held without the benefit of evidence or proof. Those of us who have gone to the trouble to look at all that is known about 911, are able to come to a conclusion which is based on actual evidence. Those who accept the offical fairy tale, which is absurd even upon its face do so based upon one reason and that is faith that the government bodies who put together the reports are telling the truth. The evidence of what happened on 911 actually points well and truly away from the official …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 10:03 am

    Allan Giles Rabbit is entirely supportive of this idea. Don't hold your breath though. ITT regularly runs these pathetic and weak hitpieces on 911 truth. This is specifically why I cannot ever trust the rag. It is just a left wing gatekeeper and the serious truths like what happened on 911 are not in their interest to publish. They are merely a presstitute and as such a shame and insult upon their founder. Anyway Allan Giles the rabbit shall pass the word around and you will get more support, besides which this pathetic and false hit piece of Terry Allen's is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 8:06 pm

    Major I'm sorry to have to point it out again. No such buildings ever did or are expected to fall into their own footprints. You are way out of your depth from the look of that incredibly silly post. The top of the first building actually was falling sideways and there is no way at that point that it could have straightened itself up. Unless as was observed the entire under stories gave way thus allowing it to straighten again. Never happened Major Major, and if you are seeking to maintain your delusions its best you run away laddie. There is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 8:33 pm

    Xyptol As a longer term resident of this site, let Rabbit assure you they are not what they seem. They ran an even more spurious and lightweight hit piece a while back. ITT is clearly not to be trusted. Stick around though my friend, there are going to be fireworks. There is a few developments with regards to whistle blowers and also scientific testing which is due to become public in the near future. This is no doubt why the admins shills are desperately trying to shore up their crumbling wall of lies. The problem they have is that apart from …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 9:20 pm

    This is an important reference for it deals specifically with the fine tuning of some of the erroneous reporting and analysis by others. This matters because it shows that people are serious about getting at the truth and that due to the amount of evidence being witheld, and despite the huge amount we actually have, we cannot expect to get all the details right at this or any stage. The overrall argument stands unchallenged still and so far nobody on the official side has dared to try and tackle the science. As such this useless piece of claptrap by …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 9:38 pm

    Why NORAD Interceptors Couldn't Catch Those 911 Boeings. More miltary experts. More military opinions. Col. Ronald D. Ray asks why half a trillion defense budget couldn't protect Pentagon, astounded at "conspiracy theory" put out by government The Impossibility of Flying Heavy Aircraft Without Training Proof that some 911 witnesses statements, supporting the official lies, were skewed. Lap it all up, Ms Allen. Rabbit has a whole lot more research material for you to look at. Considering what a couple of months of "research" has done for your knowledge, it will take you the rest of your …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 10:43 pm

    Scholars for 911 truth is a group of distinguised and qualified scholars who lose none of their authority by virtue of challenging the official whitewash. You cannot continue to attack the credibility automatically of anyone who speaks out, if you cannot even tackle what they say directly except by quoting small bits out of context and tearing down strawmen. Yet it is the only sort of answer we seem to get from the faith based brigade. Scholars for 911 truth. Do check out the list of members there are a lot of them and they have combined more knowledge and …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 10:48 pm

    Something else from the Scholars for 911 truth press release. Stunning as it may be to acknowledge, they observe, the government has brought but one indictment against anyone and, to the best of their knowledge, has not even reprimanded anyone for incompetence or dereliction of duty. The official conspiracy theory--that nineteen Arab hijackers under control of one man in the wilds of Afghanistan brought this about--is unsupportable by the evidential data, which they have studied. They even believe there are good reasons for suspecting that video tapes officially attributed to Osama bin Laden are not genuine. They have found the government's …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 12:11 am

    Dave If they haven't thought of it, they will now. They have actually already started to prepare the ground for this, I've noticed a tendency to repeat a specific new bit of detail which has as far as I can see no factual basis. It is being mentioned in passing but nothing made of it and it is being done by people from within the truth seeking ranks. It becomes apparent from Grove's account that the truth movement is well and truly infiltrated with misinformants, as if we didn't know. It is sad for me to see that a couple I …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 12:34 am

    High-Ranking Military Officers And Airline Pilots Agree Flt 175 Did Not Hit WTC South Tower By Dave vonKleist The Power Hour 12-15-5 Startling new revelations about the 9/11 attacks were recently released on The Power Hour radio program. Col. George Nelson USAF (ret.), who has 30 years of experience identifying aircraft and aircraft parts stated, "The plane that hit the south tower on 9/11 was not United Airlines (UA) flight 175". After reviewing numerous video clips and photographs of the 9/11 attacks, he concluded, "That was not a commercial airliner. The planes were substituted." ( www.thepowerhour.com/news2/replay_aug8_2005.htm ) This shocking conclusion is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Jul 06
    • 2:45 am

    Natty the Batty The buildings very likely took longer than 10 seconds to fall. Anybody that tells you that they know exactly how long it took is lying to you. Natty lies like a rug. The NIST report is who said the WTC south fell in 10.5 seconds. AND she has been shown this before. More to the point though the last place I read mention of the fact was on the link she gave at the start. Is this a prevaricator or what? People trust the rabbit, this isn't a fluffy little moron, a normal dittohead instead it is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 1:41 am

    No ad-hominem attacks Major. My entire posting series is factual, it is full to the brim with lots of well verified facts and these are interwoven into a tapestry which can be both understood and navigated with ease. The thrust of my argument is logical and fact based. Opinions are given; but the factual basis for these are also given so too the train of reasoning which led to these opinions. If being a rabbit of a somewhat feisty nature results in language which occassionally says more than the issue but which draws attention to the paucity of his opponents reasoning …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 10:02 pm

    Thankyou Rugbyzhg The falling times of the buildings is indeed of itself a complete refutation of the thoery that the fires and or planes did it. It isn't the only proof positive that the official story is false, but it is indeed one of the simplest. YET, the entire truth movement is still sidelined in the MSM. The threats against Scholars for 911 Truth and their children of late, gives a picture of the desperation and violence inherant in the government effots to keep the lid on it. This is rendering to quaintness the once logical notion that one had …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 10:23 pm

    Natalie, it seems you have been rendered to an Anachronism. Major Firstly, sorry for being too rude, you know the rabbit is too hoppity sometimes, but I did mention once that I know you are not a ditthead or fool, so at least be assured, though I am only a worthless rodent, I do not for a moment hold you for a Bush Freak or a Cringer. But it doesn’t prove that the neocons destroyed the World Trade Center by initiating a clandestine controlled demolition. And if you hope to show that they demonstrate a greater disregard for human rights and …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 11:10 pm

    Bruce Willis of all people is now onboard. He was a flag humping neocon cheerleader until very recently, actually on record attacking the 911 truth movement. He was given the information by Richard Linklater, and upon seeing it, he realised. No convincing necessary. Michelle Malkin (sweet girl) is all up in arms about it apparently. Shocked and appalled. What an uphill battle you shills have. Poor things. One day I expect the government is going to manage, via one of their shills, to actually turn someone who has first known the truth. They will announce it on TV, and that person …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Jul 06
    • 12:07 am

    I looked at Nat's new toy and having read it am impressed with the amount of padding being applied to try and ignore a couple of basic facts while pretending to make a scientific case for an as yet unproven theory. A few sentences are of utmost importance but I don't know how cut and paste from PDF things. They point out clearly eneough that each successive floor would have affected the actual velocity, such that a series of acceleration and decelerations would have occurred within the parameters of maximum being gravity. Then I kept waiting and waiting for a simple …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Jul 06
    • 12:12 am

    Terry is probably Anne Coulter say some. What organisation does she seem to represent? It seems she might be one or other of the RW nutjob talking heads. Who knows who or what they truly serve, probably just themselves. Their own warped sense of what is right and wrong. Natalie on the other hand is probably a Rendon Shill.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Jul 06
    • 3:06 am

    Natty In other words, you dont have the foggiest idea what any of those equations mean, or how to follow the logical sequence laid out by a structural engineer. ............................. That is, of course, why I posted the link to the paper. Since you also said The buildings very likely took longer than 10 seconds to fall. Anybody that tells you that they know exactly how long it took is lying to you. and your own much touted but actually brand new "un-peer reviewed" report actually stated the fall times clearly enough. If you saw the videos you claim, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Jul 06
    • 10:39 pm

    The vampire makes a lot of self ironic statements if one pays attention. Pointing out as she does that those who don't accept the official faith based fairy story, all theory = all faith have something in common, as if that thing somehow makes everyone who shares that view suspect. Indeed the cruel logic is obvious for anyone to see. The thing we all have in common which makes us certain liars and prevaricators while she defends the faith? We hate George Bush and are against the Iraq war. Well.....Golly gee.. How could that be, what strange order of connection could …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Jul 06
    • 12:59 am

    That Natalie is the implication of the facts but you are completely fabricating to say the Scholars for 911 truth are accusing anything. They have one ask, that a real investigation be carried out. That is a complete lie and I challenge you to produce a single accusation from their site. I'm really getting sick of your emotional rhetoric sliming everything and everybody when the debate can be kept to specific facts and their interpetations. You are a one trick pony in this regard, and the rabbit is sick of riding you, pony. You lie like a bat shaped rug as …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Jul 06
    • 1:28 am

    Funny..... Again the bat burns Its silly wings. The source you just gave is actually not doing more than comparing the ideas of fire or plane crashes bringing down the WTCs and is so thinly argued it, merely accepts the official faith based story without question and then concentrates on the toxic materials and resultant gases and health risks to the firemen. In fact a number of the facts it refers to are among the most damaging of the whole case, it completely lays to waste the official claims of how the buildings were structured. Ignores the moot point about planes …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Jul 06
    • 4:22 am

    Did I hear something flap past? Probably just a hysterical Bat with no answers, again. Put up your actual points of Jones' which don't work. Or here, Bat, deal with the list of objections of the whole group. By the way Bazant is being demolished quite effectively here. You can never do more than come up with a weird theory to account for how the buildings might have collapsed if the laws of gravity and conservation of energy were suspended. What you cannot do is answer with anything else but supposition and prevarication the following. * In the history of …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Jul 06
    • 4:38 am

    You can never even admit the smallest of your deceits Natalie and this poisons the whole such that you quickly accumalate a negative credibility overall. For the last time, Scholars for 911 truth does not accuse anyone of anything, except of covering up the truth. They have one request, a single goal and if you bothered to read anything instead of running off at the beak like a sick chicken you would know that is that a full and independent investigation be a carried out into the events of 911. It is your your innuendo and sleezy accusations which is the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Jul 06
    • 10:57 pm

    Silly Bat Nat The video taped confesion you speak of was never endorsed even as genuine by the US gov in the end, and everybody knows by now it was fake. I've already posted the fact that the FBI have NO credible evidence of Bin Laden involvment. THEY don't buy the tape, even the CIA don't buy the tape anymore in fact I'm not sure they ever did. The FBI were not even seeking Bin Laden as the perp, ever. That explains a lot then doesn't it? If Natty can produce one single credible piece of admission from OBL of …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Jul 06
    • 12:02 am

    There are new facts and evidence which is coming out from time to time, and this is one of the most interesting. Now what do we make of this? It proves nothing, of course, except once again, it is consistent with, the scenario of an inside job. Over and over the most likely explanation of the facts points clearly in the same direction. It is good that we have a few more shills on thread now. Let's see them rise above their pathetic and ill aimed ad-hominem and character assasinations to actually discussing the important issues, which do all they …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Jul 06
    • 12:28 am

    Such details as the following are never broached by the faith brigaders. See how they will deal with the following. Ignoring the fact presented which could be verified quite simply via the internet, they will instead atack the messenger. Claiming no doubt he would lie about something like this for some personal gain. They will waffle and rant for pages, but not once to actually check and thus prove or disprove the fact being contended. That the planes mentioned could not have been flown manually in the way in which they flew. Added to the fact that various military and commercial …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Jul 06
    • 12:56 am

    Doug, you call my Scorpy ..............Corpse? That is excellent, but I'll have you know he is the rabbit's personal troll. Rabbit took him for a pet a long time ago. Yet it sounds like you know him well? He has been experimenting with some hose I think and one of his odd habits on another thread, and has just finished a fine meal of his own foot, one of his favorite repasts. Of course I shall not answer any of his post for it reeks of one of his pompous long winded rants. Suffice it to say that while presenting the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Jul 06
    • 1:12 am

    The case for Thermate Only the facts matter, which is why they will be ignored by the shills. Expect lots of mud and slime of Prof Jones instead. Scientific analysis on WTC steel debris undertaken by BYU Professor Steven Jones proves that the twin towers were demolished by means of incendiary devices and the release of the conclusive evidence is imminent. The material that was first brought into question on the back of photos and video clips of the twin towers showing a dripping molten substance and floating white ash can now be confirmed as being thermate, combining thermite which …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Jul 06
    • 1:20 am

    Natalie what is that rubbish you just wasted all that space on.? The October 2004 video is another fake, they have all been billed fakes since the one of October 2001 and an interview or two not long after. The only confirmed staements from OBL have denied his involvment. Your red-herring about wanting to cover his tracks is hilarious. Terrorism is not meant to be secret, that's a hallmark of government terrorism by the way. Real terrorists always claim responsibility, its the point of the whole thing you twerp! Osama bin Laden died in December 2001 For genuine …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Jul 06
    • 3:14 am

    Natalie (why do I bother?) BTW, my reference to fuel was regarding the fact that the designers of the wtc didn't take its effect into account along with the impact of the 707 plane. I wasn't talking about the 2001 attack. Yes they did Natalie. Read it. Besides which, so what? the fuel was burnt in the explosion. Easy to see, even to quantify. The fuel could not have burnt at the temperatures claimed, the temperatures claimed would still not have melted the steel, and on and on it goes. Nothing is nothing no matter how many times you prove …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Jul 06
    • 4:23 am

    Proving the negative.............This sort of reasoning is actually historically new. I would call it Neocon reasoning. Proving the negative is something we once learnt cannot be done. Guess that's why these nut-jobs require it so often. Natalie "If anyone can point out a time in history when a quarter mile high structure, of similar light-weight truss construction, was hit broadside by a near fully-fueled jet liner at full speed, resulting in significant damage to the structure, massive fire, suppression of sprinker systems, and removal of the fireproofing material from the steel, and it didn’t collapse, then I would grant that they …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Jul 06
    • 5:55 am

    Rumsfeld Buries Admission of Missing 2+ Trillion Dollars in 9/10/01 Press Conference On September 10, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference to disclose that over $2,000,000,000,000 in Pentagon funds could not be accounted for. Rumsfeld stated: "According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions." 1 Such a disclosure normally would have sparked a huge scandal. However, the commencement of the attack on New York City and Washington in the morning would assure that the story remained buried. To the trillions already missing from the coffers, an obedient Congress terrorized by anthrax attacks would add …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 16 Jul 06
    • 11:53 pm

    Lurking with amusement mostly but I must give the dittohead IzzyStoned a wack. You genius. You have found the rabbit out. You have proven that he didn't invent the term beastmen, but lifted it from Mr LaRouche. What does that prove Sherlock Holmes? I also call them The Junta, for which I claim copyright and also the Neo-Conmen. Perhaps one of you can show us how clever you are and figure out where the rabbit borrowed that term. I didn't invent Shrub but got it from an Aussie Veterans site. So if 9/11 was really a government inside job, then why …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Jul 06
    • 5:37 am

    9/11 Whistleblower Richard Andrew Grove Come Forward Be brave my babies and read it. Long and weird, like life, yet thoroughly likely. This is the answer for those who have gone a step beyond and ask now for some who's and why's.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Jul 06
    • 1:17 am

    Natty says, Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction of Flushing, N.Y., told AFP that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the World Trade Center. Tully was contracted after the Sept. 11 tragedy to remove the debris from the site. Tully called Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Inc. (CDI) of Phoenix, Md., for consultation about removing the debris. CDI calls itself "the innovator and global leader in the controlled demolition and implosion of structures." Loizeaux, who cleaned up the bombed Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, arrived at the WTC site two days later and wrote the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Jul 06
    • 2:19 am

    Natalie babbles on: What NIST and Bazant have presented, after months and months of exhaustive investigation, SHOULD qualify as proof and SHOULD entitle them collectively to the million dollars Natalie........ I'm sure you would believe that which is an indigtment of your dishonesty as good as anything Rabbit could have wished for. NIST and Bazant are both thoroughly discredited, the refutations are all presented above. Months and months of wanking is not an orgy. A lifetime of theorising does not a single bit of proof make. Talk some more idiocy Natalie, dance some more of your smoke and mirrors dance. Make …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Jul 06
    • 3:28 am

    Now by using your well known shill site, in trying to deride a very well proven fact, you have shown exactly how accurate that site is not. Thanks again Natty, your help in making my case is always appreciated. I didn't even have to waste all that time showing that the 911 Myths site is not worth the electrons wasted in its presentation. Images of the World Trade Center Site Show Thermal Hot Spots on September 16 and 23, 2001. You dirty lying Bat! You were just given the reference and now you would prove by your own …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Jul 06
    • 4:27 am

    By the way, I have not heard anyone ever wonder why steel stayed molten and or hot for so long as it appears to have done. I cannot be sure that this is because everyone naturally knows something any farmer or fireman should be able to tell you. Having seen a few bushfires and having made a fair bit of quality charcoal it is obvious to the rabbit that by removing oxygen and insulating the molten mass as has happened, the retention of it's thermal entropy has been GREATLY enhanced. Imagine the excellent thermal insulation properties of all that pulverised …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Jul 06
    • 5:07 am

    Frog How does one get up again after such a series of grotesque defeats as those now suffered by our dear Shill Bat, the mad and wacky Natalie? How can one raise one's head again in public? Facing such abject humiliation on an ongoing basis is worse than Massochism, it can only come down to one thing. The oldest profession is actually selling one's self, in whatever form. Of course the Anthrax scare was a warning to those few senators still thinking of showing a spine on the patriot act which was at that time only a quaint name. Such relatively …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Jul 06
    • 9:38 pm

    Natalie your last post was babbling and isn't worthy of an answer. Still the rabbit shall give a contemptuous wave of his paw and flatten the ground where you attempt to build support for an unlikely theory out of the sand. The fact of molten steel is not in doubt. It is herewith and elsewhere confirmed. Your nitpicking of these and many other points are moot since the details which you randomly attempt, to cast aspersions are more often than not actually confirmed in even the official accounts. There isn't actually any question of the molten pools, it is witnessed and …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Jul 06
    • 9:56 pm

    She HAS NOT read Groves' account or followed his references for sources. Rabbit righteously assumes this for she has not even read the sources she herself posted above as was shown. Instead Natalie asks another of those profound questions which take up the thinking time of such faith based 911 believers. Why is it that you’re willing to consider the vast array of disparate divinings by Richard Andrew Grove, a software salesman, creative writer and soul searcher as all worthy of consideration, yet you seem unwilling to consider ANYTHING other than thermate as the heat source that resulted in whatever state …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 18 Jul 06
    • 2:20 am

    Thankyou for your prime endorsement, Professor Scorp. A Hopping Quacker. Yes Mr Scorp that is indubetably an interesting creature. With all the things Scorpy has been indulging in via his rectum lately (re smoke and tubes and things) I would want to see collateral before entering into any bets with it. Now Natalie be a good shill Bat dear and please say right on cue "Excellent points Scorp" To which the rabbit replies; Yes, it is good though pointless really, of you to list the occasions in which I have been consistent in this regard. Your point about it all? Maybe …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 18 Jul 06
    • 3:04 am

    The debunking site is another typical load of half truths, strawmen and red herrings. I only begin to list the faults with its reasoning but anybody who has followed the earlier references will not be moved by it., They actually don't manage to make the case against thermite at all. Among the many small innacuracies is the suggestion of the cuts on the columns being done on an angle to control the direction of the falling column during cleanup. This is not a forrest where they are felling trees, such a job involves a crane on a site like this so …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 18 Jul 06
    • 10:22 pm

    The natural thermite theory is ludicrous on its face. It isn't Major's theory, you are a dishonest lassy at the best of times are you not? Indeed theoretically if one could atomise, via explosives for example the correct ratios of Iron Oxide and Aluminium it would create a potential thermite reaction. It is not a viable theory in practice. To create thermite requires very finely ground components and considerable mixing for homogeneity. It isn't like you just chuck in a piece of rusty iron and a bit of aluminium and voila it goes whoosh. Thermite is notoriously difficult to ignite as …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 18 Jul 06
    • 10:53 pm

    Natalie I think we can look up this page and quickly find at least six facts you have been caught out, misrepresenting. How can you seriously claim otherwise. You claimed that there was no real source for the fall times of about 10 seconds. Yet your own source mentioned it! You claimed nobody was saying their were molten pools of steel. A blatant falsehood as was immediately shown. You claimed that a hodgepodge of waffling theorising by Bazant, was proof that gravity and fire brought down the WTCs. This is a deliberate attempt to mislabel a theory as a fact. You …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 18 Jul 06
    • 11:17 pm

    Diggins, don't let the Bat get to you. It's true that she is a shockingly gross defender of pretty much anything which could be construed as evil. Natalie does indeed support all those atrocities you mention, if she is instructed to do so by her programmers. She loves Depleted Uranium more than most issues, because surprise, surprise it is the NUMBER ONE priority for censorship by the pentagon. We know who gets all the money and thus who has the money to pay for Shills, so it is logical that she puts it first. Of course then 911, is her …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 18 Jul 06
    • 11:42 pm

    Rabbit only uses quotations which have significance and relevance. Unlike some who do so for no other reason than to fill up space. Nat quotes nothing of prominence, but often she tries to slip gratuitous litle bits of rubbish under the radar. Accidental thermite reactions are a well-known phenomenon, he says. It just takes a lot of exposed surface area for the reaction to start The key is this bit a lot of exposed surface area for the reaction to start we are talking about micron sized exposure. Such accidents are indeed known to happen in fireworks factories where thermite is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 12:19 am

    Natsky ..............All of your last post was dissembling and even for you pathetic. I guess the next time an aeronautical engineer explains to me the reason a plane can fly, and uses all kinds of lift and drag coefficient formulas, I'll tell him he's crazy and call his theory a hodgepodge. Natalie try to keep up here. The difference with the theory of flight is that it is proven, ie; planes fly. and that is the only reason flight is a proven fact. The theory that airplanes fly is not needful of an aeronautical engineer to explain, it is quite …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 3:03 am

    Diggins Terry Allen may be a sly enabler of the truth? Perhaps by spouting her original gibberish she was trying to bring the truth to the forefront? Maybe this is why she coins a few excellent turns of phrase for our use? Clearly she cannot seriously have spent months researching, only to come out and describe the demolition and LIHOP/MIHOP theories were faith based while the official story was a fact. Maybe the author was being Ironic all along ? If it were not for the lockstep behaviour of the Natalie one could almost be convinced that nobody could be that …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 8:24 pm

    Hi Brian/Dean Your points are once again on the ball and useful. It is of course probable that the fires themselves reached around 800 degrees C, since organic fuelled fires can do so. That the steel itself never went over 250 degrees is consistent with this of course, because in the time available there is no way enough heat could have been absorbed by the steel with it's massive heat sink properties, to rise up to the full temperature of the fire. I'd hazard a guess and suggest that the 250 C spots were isolated even then, with such heat effects …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 9:56 pm

    Thanks Diggins Just quietly I feel that some new sort of Thermate based demoliton "device" was used and that an exact replica of the method itself will not be forthcoming for some some yet. The explosions are unmistakable when one is looking for them, but, they are "unfamiliar" in some way, that I can only describe as like he difference between one explosive like PETN compared to another like ANFO. The almost smokeless nature for a start, although I've often wondered if the sheer scale of these buildings is what makes this seem minimal. The distance of all the footage I've …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 11:13 pm

    Diggins, I've just added something above, about it. But I think Shrub really is dumb as shit, and they need him to be. He is Cheney's sock puppet. He might be privy to much of what's going on, but mostly I think he is selectively fed what little information his brain can process by people of limited enough real intelligence of their own, but who at least now how to get George to do what they want. You say he acts dumber than he really is? What has he ever done which could have been done worse? All his actions have …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 20 Jul 06
    • 1:25 am

    There is I think a tendency to seek something beyond the public persona which seems impossibly daft. His slip from what I always figured was a put on accent, it goes with him wanting to be a cowboy, pretending he's from Texas, doesn't suggest a hidden intelligence, it says he is a dumbass poser that's all.. I still think he is naturally as dumb as dirt, maybe with some sort of dark ability perhaps, like a savant, he is yet outside that limited function, a complete idiot. In Shrub's case it may be no more than his uncanny ability to hypnotise …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 20 Jul 06
    • 2:49 am

    I'm told that the reason Christians get so worked up about the seventy virgins is that all they are promised for their piousness is 2000 year old St Peter and at best their own wife again. Really it is obvious why this is the perfect drawcard for lots of young men too young to know the pointlessness of having more than one virgin. Only young virgin men would think this desirable. A better offer would have the other sixty nine all manner of whores, girl scouts and even women in suits who carry briefcases. Eternity is a lot of time to …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 21 Jul 06
    • 12:45 am

    Honest Joe. William Rodriguez' story is already linked to above. Of course not only does he say there was an explosion in the basement before the plane even hit, he rescued a man who was injured in the blast, and elevator technician, and their are fourteen more witnesses who were present and testify to the same thing. It is just one of the hundreds of corroborating witness testimy which is consistent with the only realistic explanation of why those buildings came down. WTH stop wasting time trying to bring a bit of doubt on individual testimonies. If you can't disprove the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 21 Jul 06
    • 12:54 am

    MyMarkx Viva............! Look south and see the spirit rising. Being closer to their souls they are more inclined to recognise the danger and act, but the spirit is not impeded by borders. It will flow out across all borders and is doing so. Natalie Batgirl you are like a wandering drone which is not a sharer of information and seeker of truth but an automatic regurgitator of a select course of driveling bullshit which could be summed up by admitting the following which is a fair conclusion based on everything you have posted. Then using that time honoured tactic of waffling, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 21 Jul 06
    • 3:37 am

    More about the sneaky stuff!

    "A report released June 9, 2005 by the FBI’s Office of the Inspector General raises new questions about the role of the US government in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. The internal FBI study provides several important revelations about how US intelligence agencies ignored and even suppressed warnings in the period leading up to the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon that killed nearly 3,000 people." 3 June 13, 2005: "A former Bush team member during his first administration is now voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 12:04 am

    Nat the Batgirl Rabbit, what precisely do you mean by anomalies? Please give the three most glaring anomalies in your view. I should just write SEE ABOVE. The three most glaring anomalies? There are literally dozens depending on how one breaks it up. The case for Neocon Junta involvment is practically proven. SEE ABOVE. The case for controlled demolition is proven. SEE ABOVE. There are three glaring anomalies Natalie, three things which are so anomalous that no previous history ever gave reason believe such things were possible, nothing like them have ever been seen before and it seems that they …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 12:08 am

    Television viewers watching the horrific events of Sept. 11 saw evidence of explosions before the towers collapsed. Televised images show what appears to be a huge explosion occurring near ground level, in the vicinity of the 47-story Salomon Brothers Building, known as WTC 7, prior to the collapse of the first tower. WTH noticed exactly this a day or two ago looking at a recording he took on the day. Van Romero, an explosives expert and former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at New Mexico Tech, said on Sept. 11, "My opinion is, based on …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 12:56 am

    Natabat your sad little link to an even sadder little discussion forum, did once again eventually establish that the 757 and 767 have remote control which even allows them to be landed and take off with their remotes. ..............Thanks............ It debunked the idea that they had systems which could't be overriden by the pilots, but so what? The "mere discussion" you linked to also includes mention by pilots of the cell-phone calls allegedly made from the planes, and confirms the widely held belief they would have been impossible.......Thanks again. The discussion ends on the question of the five G' turns two …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 1:27 am

    Natalie grovelling like the mucky little troll she is says: In fact, Rabbit proudly put forth this story back on page 2 on July 14 @ 11:28 pm. (to his credit, he rather promptly conceeded that the story was bogus) The adjective "proudly" is not deserved, but your use of it says a lot about your recalcitrance at least. You are a complete liar in saying I conceded the story was bogus. Again you are an ouright liar. It was to my credit that upon being shown a reference to the software limits being able to be ovverridden by Pilots, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 2:46 am

    Hi Wiley Exciting to see you. Dave keeps saying I should be dropping by your lovely garden. Good to see you're here. I agree with you, the Bushling is now completely out of the loop, and he is probably due to be sacrificed soon. The NEXT false flag horror show is going to make 9/11 look like a small town circus maybe. If these maniacs are anything I'd say they are at least showmen. The number games with dates and symbology is indicative of smug psychopathy, and some of the Newspeak words and labels show a sense of art. Howler but …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 3:24 am

    Natalie is an uncommonly feeble debater as we should all be now aware of. Despite actually being caught red handed every few posts, attempting to alter the foregoing, or twisting others' words, or making provably false claims about sources, not once has she taken a step down, not once admitted to anything. She is already half way into her next lie before the smoke has cleared from the proof of her last. Rabbit has admitted immediately when at fault as she just established for me, thankyou dear. By making a mistake and admitting it, the rabbit loses no credibility at all. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 11:31 am

    Doug The rabbit is wondering that you are only a teen, but if this is so, then you are a credit to your generation and the USA. Articulacy and reason, in an American teen, no older than my own son....very impressive. Art thou a prodigy? Spychips, I presume you mean RFID chips? I have no problem with their use in tracking animals (stock or pets) or for use in material goods, tools and machinery, for these things it is a good technology. Entirely useful. I don't trust the poeple in control of the corporations or the government though so now is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 23 Jul 06
    • 4:04 am

    Frog The Israeli celebration you mentioned. That Youtube Video is good, at least the first two and a half minutes of it. It seems to be broken, but it does get to the point of it taking 411 days for an investigation of 911, compared to the usual week or so of previous disasters like Pearl Harbour, Titanic sinking, Space shuttle crash etc. 411 days, interesting number. The other time in history which is mentioned when such a disaster didn't warrant an investigation with all haste, Reichstag Fire........Indeed! Oeyrsenal Hyperlinks are done thusly. You put the url between …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 10:10 pm

    Nat First of all, thank you for putting forth your best arguments. You didn't ask for any such thing, I gave you precisely, what you asked for and no more. Disgusting prevaricator! My best argument for 9/11 truth was given in the first half dozen posts, on this thread, you're too late this time Batgirl. But thanks for playing. In the real world, the second collapse could be thought of as the theoretical re-enactment of the incident, where a duplicate WTC tower is built and a plane load of people and fuel is driven into it. Guess what? Basically the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 10:52 pm

    MyMarkx Go to Source from the View menu in the top left of your page. Scroll down and see the map of the action on the factory floor so to speak. Thanks for wacking the Bat for rabbit his paws are tired. One can wack her about the place like a squashball, but like a squash ball she gets warmed up with use. Then she starts bouncing further and increasingly wildly about the court but it likewise becomes correspondingly tiresome to chase after it. Help is always aprreciated. Sometimes the poor rabbit is still left flailing away at the undead carcass …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 23 Jul 06
    • 3:04 am

    Batgirl has recently opted for election integrity, which came as a surprise to some of us, but it is obviously the new mantra. Maybe Mexico has made Election fraud too hot to not at least speak about it with a forked tongue. With this much attention on the thread, the Batgirl who is rather shy, may hide out for a few days, hoping people will lose interest and go away. She isn't about winning debates of course, merely disrupting the dissemination of truth, so where it is being dealt with in the open by a group then Nat realises she can't …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 23 Jul 06
    • 5:15 am

    Natalie Vampire Bat Shill of darkness and spite. Just pointing to the possibility of remote control doesn't say that is my contention it was so. Unlike you mad flappity moon Bat the rabbit is not required to explain every little detail of anything since it is enough the official fairy story is demolished. Some of the planes have flown in a way which suggests either a level of skill for the pilots which was simply not possible for any of the alleged pilots or they could have been remote controlled. Remote control removes the problem of the unskilled pilots, and the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 23 Jul 06
    • 11:00 pm

    Howler There are actually many more threads of interest in what is known and what is spceulated about with credible reasons. Indeed much of the speculation and some of the information is bogus, but it isn't hard to verify a story or find credible reason to discount it via the WWW. The first and simplest answer to your question But then why hasn't some official just come out and said this to address the pre-set explosives charge your all making and put our minds at ease? For the same reason a virtual blackout exists on any and all information about …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 24 Jul 06
    • 2:59 am

    Batgirl you are also implying we must Imagine that Islamofacsists were responsible for 9/11. Without any proof this was so, and lacking even sufficient evidence for the FBI to charge him, this alos becomes an act of faith Natalie. That it is a whole lot of imagining you are asking us to do to try and support something which is supposed to be an officially sanctioned conclusion. Isn't that just a whisper away from Faith, or even the same thing? Rabbit has earned the right to ignore the moronic drivel of the undead Scorpse, he cannot dent Rabbit's batle ship of …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 24 Jul 06
    • 3:11 am

    Natalie Natalie there is more than Jone's scientific analysis of the Thermite residues, liar liar pants on fire. MyMarkx Natalie has long since been shown the proof of the living hijackers and conceded it. She then claimed that this just meant they used false IDs. Which brings us the full circle, back to the second fake OBL admissionn tape which named all nineteen as per the official list and the lack of video evidence or even an appearance on the original passenger lists of their names. Can anyone say cockup? What if all those professional engineers are right and lil …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 24 Jul 06
    • 4:11 am

    You know it always amuses me to think that no matter how much the Gnat scrabbles away at trying to make something of the existence of these alleged hijackers, she cannot take such a thing beyond first base anyway. So what if there were these magic arabs? It is known that some of them had connections to US intelligence and others lived on the same road as a number of Israeli intelligence operatives who were rounded up and expelled at the same time. It is known that they were known about but the information always supressed. The flight schools and training …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 24 Jul 06
    • 11:34 pm

    Natalie That's the way it works, isn't it? One of your myths is totally debunked and the response invariably is: "It doesn't matter" Rabbit shall try and use simple words for you poor bat. You are clearly only firing on two cylinders here. No it isn't the way it works. The theorising about the hijackings is an entirely independent matter, from the collapses of the buildings, that my dear is simple logic. Say it over in your mind a few times, see if you can understand the meaning of the words in that order. How exactly the planes came to …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 24 Jul 06
    • 11:54 pm

    Now looking at your attempts to debunk the living Hijackers story. Natalie, neither the first link nor the second are credited in such a way that they discredit the BBC report or the several other independent reports in other media which showed some of the hijackers to be alive. You have failed to debunk this story, I can tell you outright. You are even coming off as a nut for still trying to do so. Compare the massively referenced articles the rabbit links to, with the mostly spurious rants without corroborating verification of anything, which Natalie relies on.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 12:27 am

    Nice one MyMarkx You do realise Natalie cannot take any of these people seriously, they are all obviously Bush haters. By the way wasn't it interesting to note the craven attempts to use Doug's age against him when the Batgirl believed he is fourteen? Says a lot about our Bat that does. If one is crippled by Depleted Uranium poisoning by Nat's reasoning that makes your testimony invalid because you would thus be biased. If one is not a Physicist then you cannot understand gravity is another of her conditions and of course if you are accusing the Bush administration of …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 12:47 am

    Natalie You are clearly not reading anything, your response times show you are not reading, not looking at a thing. Thanks for showing us you are a deceiver again. Ho hum.. Batgirl babbles: If these two aspects are so independent, why then is the theory that there were no hijackers so often invoked in conjunction with arguing for the presence of bombs in the buildings? They are independent by virtue of logical progression, you dumbass. Nothing about the demolitions of the buildings relies in any way shape or form upon who piloted the planes you feeble minded ninny. What part …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 12:58 am

    Batgirl lies: Like I said......it doesn't matter......does it That was you taking things out of context, another deceitful shill trick. It doesn't matter relevant to the Explosive demolitions.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 1:19 am

    Sorry for the space people but I think you'll all forgive the rabbit this indulgence, we need to look at the Nat's story since she doesn't seem able to string it together coherantly herself..

    Looniest Of All 911 Conspiracy Theories By Gerard Holmgren 1-31-6 Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event there will usually be at least one, often several wild conspiracy theories which spring up around it. 'The CIA killed Hendrix', 'The Pope had John Lennon murdered', 'Hitler was half Werewolf', 'Space aliens replaced Nixon with a clone' etc, etc. The bigger the event, the more …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 3:10 am

    Did something flap past? 9/11 was an inside job, with many false and vicious things happening that day. Here we have a Retired General stating a plane did not hit the pentagon. Yes its via ALEX JONES, just to annoy the bat. Rabbit can hear her screeching in fury already. Does anyone know why Batgirl is linking to pages like the last one she did, which is directly supportive of the substitution of planes among other things? Space aliens with plasma cannons is an odd title to give a link which has no such things too. Odd Bat is aiming …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 3:36 am

    The beastly Bat swoops past our eyes. Drops like a loose brick from the darkening skies. There on the place where reason weeps. It covers the truth with its horny feet. Spinning a tangled web of dissembling lines. Neo-con-man crimes, covered up with lies. Metaphoric fangs are spreading poisons. Personal insults and ugly aspersions. Deriding on impulse and never replying. To anything sending her fairy tale flying. While the rest of us usually base ours on facts. Faith is all that supports the story of Bats.. ........................^^...........................

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 11:00 pm

    Howler Many of the things you are questioning exist and have been linked to already above. No offence but most of your questions are redundant. The 9/11 truthers are constantly adding new information as it comes forward and there is plenty of energy going into the search for whatever is available. The Larry Silverstein speech is available in full, even the original footage of the interview, and there exists his effort to explain his comments away at a later date. Obviously he fails to convince anyone, since as I point out, no new converts have ever joined the faith brigade, they …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Jul 06
    • 12:02 am

    Umm, Natalie you may have people who reportedly identified the jet which hit the Pentagon, but that doesn't mean they were correct. Here is one of your supposed witnesses and it seems he was misquoted. You claim you have witnesses, but we cannot believe that you have any witnesses until you present them Nat. As it happens being a resourceful rabbit and not given to spurious claims of important material, like dishonourable bats, I have found for you a complete list of witnesses of the Pentagon incident. "James R. Cissell" has his statement recorded in there in its original …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Jul 06
    • 12:13 am

    From Holmgren's analysis. American Airlines flight 11, a Boeing 767, tail number N334AA, with 92 people aboard, including the hijackers, was hijacked by 5 Arabs, while on route from Boston to LA. It was known to be hijacked by 8.25 AM or earlier, and hit the Nth tower of the WTC at 8.46. United Airlines flight 175, a Boeing 767, tail number N612UA, with 65 aboard , including the hijackers , was hijacked by 5 Arabs, while flying the same route as AA 11. It was known to be hijacked at about 8.55 AM and hit the Sth Tower of the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Jul 06
    • 12:35 am

    Holmgren still. And in subsequent statements, the FBI buried the admission of doubt about the hijackers identities with an avalanche of increasingly ridiculous spin about the sinister pre- Sept11 activities of the 19 Arabs, seemingly forgetting that they admitted these IDs to be fictitious. For example, the FBI rather stupidly claimed that 9 of the fictitious Arabs had actually been searched before boarding because they looked suspicious. If they were using false names when they were searched, then surely the FBI must know which of those 9 people on the passenger lists were actually the hijackers incognito? And if they were …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Jul 06
    • 4:10 am

    Another step forward for the truth. The official plane impact times are preceded by the seismically recorded events. This is the latest indigting evidence. In other words massive explosions recorded before the plane impacts, consistent with witness accounts of explsoions in the basements within the two towers before the planes struck. The seismic records have been known for a while and also the plane impact times have long been recorded very precisely in the reports. It just took someone this long to put the two together. Actually we have always assumed the seismic recordings were of the bombs, because the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Jul 06
    • 11:29 pm

    Batgirl says. Uh, Rabbit, the times set out in the NIST report are within 4 or 5 seconds of the seismographic data. You don't set your watch from a seismograph. I did notice from the data, however, that the WTC7 event took 18 seconds total, not 6.6. This ignors the fact witnesses say bombs in the basements about 4-5 seconds before the plane impacts. This makes the most sense, and need the rabbit speak of Occams razor? The seismographic data, and times can be compared with the video evidence and seismographic data shows explosions occurring well outside of the observed …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Jul 06
    • 11:47 pm

    Scorpse admits I do not know of any difference between "commercial" and "military" demolition, except the target: the principles are the same. Of course you don't Scorpy, we wouldn't expect you to. Most people could probably guess the following two facts. Military explosives are often inclusive of new types and forms, as yet not available on civvy street. The normal range of military explosives is also on average more powerfall. They have access to 700ms or more instant cord for example compared to the 500ms available to civilian demolitions when Rabbit last did such things. Your claim that no evidence …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 27 Jul 06
    • 3:46 am

    We have not explored Rodriguez and found him to be tainted by ulterior motives! and his testimony is backed by another fourteen people you dribbling bimbo. Your witnesses to a "passenger airlilner " started out looking good but collpased into a heap. You claimed you had lots, but produced none. I found the entire list, and reduced it to no credible witness testimony which clearly identifies the plane types well enough to discount the possibilty that those other witnesses whe said they saw a missile were not correct. You didn't even take part in that exchange fruit bat, it was done …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 27 Jul 06
    • 4:05 am

    Again we must prove you have no truth at all SCorpse and Fruit Bat . New York seismometers recorded huge bursts of energy, which caused unexplained seismic "spikes" at the beginning of each collapse. These spikes suggest that massive underground explosions may have literally knocked the towers off their foundations, causing them to collapse. In the basements of the collapsed towers, where the 47 central support columns connected with the bedrock, hot spots of "literally molten steel" were discovered more than a month after the collapse. Such persistent and intense residual heat, 70 feet below the surface, in an oxygen starved …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 27 Jul 06
    • 4:36 am

    Redhorse YES Rabbit says it was explosives, it looked like explosives, and all the evidence is consistent with explosives.. Witnesses, Seismic data, chemical analysis of WTC steel expert opinion and my eyes and your eyes, every time we watch those collapses again. Especially WTC-7. All of it is consistent with the scenario of controlled demolitions. NOTHING of an irrefutable nature exists to back the official fairy story, including NO evidence of OBL involvment, to boot. The long answer is the first five or six posts of this thread, the rabbit worked hard to make a nice little garden of important 9/11 …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 2:59 am

    Batgirl asks of Rodriguez: Where is this testimony? I'm genuinely interested in examining it. You are a riot Batgirl. You are genuinely interested in examining it are you? Bullshit! Where is it you ask? As if you cannot use a search engine at all. You are the most mindbogglingly stupid creature the rabbit has ever encountered. It was given to you by Rabbit on Jul 21, 2006 at 11:04 PM in direct answer to your own question. So I guess you are once again trawling the sewer for your dinner Batgirl. I know better than most what sort of …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 3:33 am

    Batgirl again: Is it not rather sophomoric to suggest that some LSD using computer programmer is qualified to debunk the seismic/geologic experts at Lamont-Doherty?, who flat-out state: There is no scientific basis for the conclusion that explosions brought down the towers, Lerner-Lam tells PM. That representation of our work is categorically incorrect and not in context. Well Batgirl since I have no idea what you are talking about in ref to LSD, it is after all what you claim of everyone who disgrees with the lies, I cannot easily know what you are now on about. It is however a …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 4:04 am

    There is now irrefutable evidence which proves massive complicity on the part of the highest levels of government -- along with numerous accomplices and co-conspirators in the military, intelligence and administrative sectors -- in the September 11 atrocities perpetrated against the American people. Heres the deal. 1. Dozens of Air Force and Air National Guard bases are located within ten to thirty minutes intercept time of both 9.11 target locations. (List of bases provided below.) 2. Most of these installations have, at the ready, fighter jets such as F-16s to be scrambled on a moments notice, for intercepting troubled or problem …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 4:22 am

    Batgirl sees how impressive a list looks so tries to imitate one. 1) No stand down order WRONG! The truth about the standdown is long since out. 2) The planes hitting the towers/pentagon were not the planes we all thought Your alleged witnesses were incapable of making acase for the actual alleged planes when they were looked at, and no other evidence exists to prove which planes were involved. (Except what is being hidden from even the investigations, by the FBI) 3) All kinds of planes have been intercepted by NORAD in the past (not true, only 1 …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 4:25 am

    Thanks Wiley Rabbit was just trying to link that Oilempire page but lost it in the posting. Yes it does help the story lots, but Natty isn't going to read it. It has been mentioned that Rummy changed the rules of engagement for errant aircraft in June or July of 200. This amounts to a standown order just before 9/11 in fact. It is also known that on the day repeated requests to engage the errant aircraft were denied. Do you have information about previous NORAD intercepts Wiley? Natalie the other day you mentioned to the rabbit that we shared a …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 7:06 am

    Scorpse You have just made one of your most pointless posts to date. You are obviously not reading the thread, and merely chucking in your two cents worth off the cuff. Lagomorph, I will be the trained demolitions expert with the Quarryman MOS, and you be the firecracker man, OK? And, as an "expert welder", you do not impress us since you were unable to identify a cut by welding torch of a steel column, until I showed you a picture of the WTC clean-up and the man cutting the column with a torch. THEN you admitted that the cut …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 7:22 am

    Seismographs at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, N.Y., 21 miles north of the WTC, recorded strange seismic activity on Sept. 11 that has still not been explained. While the aircraft crashes caused minimal earth shaking, significant earthquakes with unusual spikes occurred at the beginning of each collapse. The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 8-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31. However, the Palisades seismic record shows that-as the collapses began-a huge seismic "spike" marked the moment the greatest energy …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 8:18 am

    An analysis of the twin towers' collapse from a structural engineering perspective can be found at: http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2003/03/35245_comment.php * (ii) Jet Fuel Cannot Melt Steel: The melting point of construction steel is 1500 degrees Celsius. Jet fuel burning in open air can reach just over half of that temperature. Inside a high-rise office block (which are usually an enclosed space), the fire is likely to have died down rather quickly because of lack of enough oxygen. The thick black smoke was an indication of that. That 300,000 tons of steel structure was melted by two planeloads of jet fuel is an absolute …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 9:55 am

    Ths guy makes some good points

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 11:50 pm

    Natalie that you are not ashamed of the Scorpse is not a surprise after all, I already knew you were shameless, I just wanted to see you prove it again. SCorpse has been reading up on explosives we can see and is now trying to pass himslef off as knowledgeable. Scorp don't you think we can see when you are cut and pasting? You have already demonstrated your patent ignorance of explosives/demolitions/chemistry, and I have demonstrated my own considerable knowledge. What you have to go and cut and paste, I can tell you from the top of my small bunny head. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 29 Jul 06
    • 12:31 am

    Scorpy most of those words you posted had two and three syllables. Am I expected to take seriously someone who cannot count to three? I am also tired of sparring with such a deluded, irrational moron who sticks his foot in his mouth so often any parody I do of you is redundant anyway. You're your own worst enemy, and you are not contributing anything at this stage to a debate which long since left you behind. Rabbit has posted a huge amount of information, and links to valid references. In the first five of the posts on this forum, the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 29 Jul 06
    • 1:40 am

    This POLL is fascinating and very informative. Close to half (48%) agrees the U.S. government and 9/11 Commission are not covering up anything, yet nearly as many (42%) believe the government and 9/11 Commission are covering up. One in ten (10%) is unsure. Compare that to this: A plurality (43%) is not aware of World Trade Center Building 7's collapse. Nearly as many (38%), though, are aware of it and think the Commission should have investigated it. People are least likely to be aware of the building's collapse and think the Commission was right to investigate just the Twin Towers' …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 29 Jul 06
    • 6:41 am

    Ignoring the random flapping noises, Rabbit leaves a special gift for the Evil Fruit Bat. Watch the Fruit Bat in action as it spreads its vitriol and personal attacks against another honest person who is only telling the truth. Its gross hatred for Doug Rokke should make people wonder why it would hate a respected veteran whose task has been to safeguard the health of the US troops. Did you know people that the same shills who lie for the 9/11 faith movement, are also ardent supporters of Depleted Uranium? Rabbit couldn't ignore the Bat after all. Reading its babblings …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 29 Jul 06
    • 7:28 am

    On another note Batgirl. The fact that a couple of charlatans faked some crop circles doesn't actually prove all crop circles are fake. If your son was convinced this was the case from a single example, I'd say the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. It is apparent that his initial beliefs were based on only limited knowledge too, for it is yet to be explained how people might have produced the radiation levels and unusual cellular destruction of the crops in some examples of crop circles. I guess he knew about as much about his chosen beliefs as you …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 29 Jul 06
    • 7:37 am

    Hi Redhorse Would you like a piece of roasted Fruit Bat?

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 30 Jul 06
    • 11:29 pm

    Oh oh the poor rabbit. After all his hard work, the Batgirl makes such an amazingly convincing post that she has all but destroyed the entire 9/11 truth movement. Demolished us you have you clever Batgirl. Referring of course to your last post on page 4. I guess it will only be a matter of time then now before those numbers supporting the Faith based Official fairy tale start to grow then eh? The Bunny is giving you the angry eye, and is not cute in this pose. It is the very rabbit with whom you are sparring BTW, it is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 12:05 am

    SCorpse seems to think that quantity trumps quality, not realising that at this stage he has lost the war anyway. There are so many logical flaws in your reasoning Corpse, that I am not going to bother messing around with you. You have always been capable of crashing and burning without any help anyway. The whole wasted space you use to babble on about explosives and trying to rewrite the easily verifiable seismic data is answerabel by referring to just one of your assumptions which in itself clearly illustrates again why you are not remotely qualified to discuss Physics or indeed …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 12:20 am

    Marx Nice Bat wacking back there. That it seems to have no effect should not get you down though, for indeed the responses she gives to such logic are useful in themselves, showing what a brainless bimbo she is, and by association all her causes. I'll bet she had to think long and hard to come up with anything she didn't agree with about Bushling, but such a challenge is bound to elicit a response since she gets the idea that by proving you wrong in contending she is in 100% lockstep with the Junta that she might amass some credibility. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 12:51 am

    One more Batgirl quote for fun. it will take many more years to determine whether the Iraq decision was dumb, brilliant, or a toss-up This is a relative comment Batgirl. Indeed you may still be wondering about this in a decade or two, but the rest of the world has long since made up its mind, and there isn't any debate I'm aware of. I would predict that with the rising levels of Cancers and deformed Children being born in Iraq thanks to the gift of all those dirty bombs and other forms of Waste Uranium which have been dumped onto …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 12:58 am

    Batgirl Your mention of the lung cancer rates increase is amusing since you have previously denied this when it was raised to suggest that Uranium contamination due to DU testing etc in the USA was the culprit. Is this an example of selective reasoning? Of course many of those who are boosting that number are veterans from Iraq. Did you read the OBL link? Is that a dumb question? Give it a shot, some real information could do wonders for your comprehension.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 1:13 am

    There has been discussion about the legal status of those who actively support war crimes in the sense of Shilling for them. The conclusion was that you will be able to be charged. What has Saddam Hussein, the Amercian's onetime ally, (while he was committing those crimes) got to do with you facing charges as an accomplice of war crimes? Not even the puppet government of Iraq is "happy" about the USA presence in Iraq, but on instructions from their Iranian closest supporters and allies, they are playing along out of necessity for now. Why not let the USA do the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 1:17 am

    Irony Batgirl? How the heck can anyone pick your deliberate irony from the overrall irony of virtually all your posts?

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 1:28 am

    Batgirl The rabbit has absolutely no need to engage in any debate about the validity of his sources, not least because he invariably does a search for the required information and then selects one from what are usually many thousands of options. There is no pattern and no preferences showing among my choices for sourcing, that many come via rense is immaterial since they are almost always merely embedded from elsewhere. Meanwhile your sources have a boring lack of variety about them. You have three or four to chose from as a rule and it shows. Your ad-hominem attacks on authors …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 1:52 am

    Rubbish Batgirl. Manning is mentioning theories, and nothing you quoted shows what he believes, but he doesn't measure up to the facts and opinions already amply covered, in as few as the first half dozen posts on this thread. The fact remains that you are gaining no supporters after all this time, no experts joining our cause, and no growth only rapid decline in those who have the faith. The Manning quotes are actually ancient, and I wonder what he thinks today. What will you be saying if Manning comes out tomorrow and expresses support for the contention that explosives were …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 1:31 am

    You would do well to read that quote you just posted, especially the last sentence. Of course, in light of there being no real evidence thus far produced, this could remain just unexplored theory. Rabbit will allow you to remove it and pretend you didn't just do that to yourself if you want Batgirl, nobody will know but you and I. Have Faith! Have Faith! There are theories, there are theories! Yes we know there are theories, but after five years they are gaining NO SUPPORT! Would you like to explain your ravings about information in realtion to the seismic …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 1:43 am

    On Iraq Batgirl With a rising state of chaos currently measured at over 6000 Iraqis being killed per month, I'd have to question the sanity of anyone who still tries to spin it as anything but a rapidly snowballing disaster. OF course these are th best conditions imaginable if on wants American troops to stay in Iraq, so why would al-Qaeda be the main force for internal strife and who stands to gain from this if not the United States of Avarice in the sense of keeping a permanent presence? I see that the recently touted scale down has been stopped …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 2:07 am

    Batgirl says: You're forgetting Rabbit, that Manning's last sentence there does not in any way, shape or form suggest that he suspects deliberate demolition. Rabbit is not forgetting anything. Rabbit has not used Mannings words which are of no value at all, since he doesn't express any opinion. I have not suggested he supported controlled demo when he said those things, merely that he confirms that NO evidence exists to support the official theory. You are the one who brought up his words which don't support the offoical theory at all. They merely repeat it and not with his own conviction …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 2:20 am

    Fire Engineering has good reason to believe that the "official investigation" blessed by FEMA and run by the American Society of Civil Engineers is a half-baked farce that may already have been commandeered by political forces whose primary interests, to put it mildly, lie far afield of full disclosure. Except for the marginal benefit obtained from a three-day, visual walk-through of evidence sites conducted by ASCE investigation committee members- described by one close source as a "tourist trip"-no one's checking the evidence for anything. 3 Manning also emphatically condemned the destruction of structural steel, declaing "The destruction and removal of evidence …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 2:39 am

    It seems the rabbit's little fishing pole caught the fruit bat in mid flight. The sudden dissapearance of the Bat, who was right here, after the question of her attitude to Manning if he were to speak out in support of demos of the WTCs, has elicited the exact response he expected. She is frantically Googling away like a coffee percolator trying to find out if it has happened. Now while she is doing this Rabbit will admit is was merely an innocent question. BUT she cannot be sure, and knowing the rabbit is a tricky little rodent she has panicked …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 2:56 am

    It happens that Rabbit has found Mr Manning's blog and is contacting him now to see if he has any views about 9/11 to share. I would not blame him for keeping his mouth shut though, it is not a good career move to question 9/11 as we know. Still if he supports the official theory he will of course come out with it straight away. Reading his blog assures me he is not likely to support the fairy tale though, I can see he has been getting increasingly disconcerted by the Bushling Junta ever since 9/11.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 3:44 am

    Manning has not been misquoted Natalie, and certainly not by Steven Jones. Rabbit has in fact emailed him dearest. Update if and when recieved. You don't answer the question though I see. Natalie you are the one twisting things. The original article even as you quote it, doesn't speak for the official theory, and it was not used to suggest that Manning was supporting the explosive demolitions contention by Jones either. The article being "ancient" does not exclude its use for what it is normally used for. Proving that FEMA removed the evidence against all protocol. It is entirely relevant then …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 4:11 am

    By the way, I HATE big bloody PDF files. My poor little computer is all locked up downloading now, thanks to you Batgirl. Oh do go to her mangling link people it is a prime piece of work indeed. The very things the Fruit Bat would prefer did not exist. Why oh why has she given us this gift though? Rabbit is so confused, has the Fruit Bat joined us, is she a secret anti-shill? Maybe she has just wigged out? Lost her Bat marbles? Here it is again in case she has second thoughts about keeping it up.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 4:31 am

    It appears that the link you gave which failed to prove Jones mangled anything by the way, is but an updated version of the original and I did have it in favorites. Now it has become absolutely the last word as far as the science goes and you have brought it to the rabbit's attention dear sweet Natalie. How can he ever repay you? This humble rodent kisses your feet in gratitude, which seem strangely not to be attached to the rest of your legs anymore....................^^.....................Has Batgirl been taking shooting lessons from Scorpy by any chance? Now Batgirl, what makes you …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 31 Jul 06
    • 5:03 am

    I am not even interested in the reviews Nat, I can understand the science quite well without help, actually anyone can. I therefore cannot say if this is so or not but being scientists and scholars all, that is peer review anyway so there aint nuthin' to your whingin' dear leathery pigeon. Now Batgirl, everybody knows the rabbit NEVER bullshits. His reputation for honesty remains as pure as the driven snow. I just don't see Manning's blog has any relevance, that's all since I found no mention of 9/11, though there is more than enough to show which side he will …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 01 Aug 06
    • 12:33 am

    Corpse You are such an excitable little troll are you not? You get a hard on everytime you see a spelling error. One wonders how you expect to achieve anything this way, but then I guess beggars can't be choosers and at least you get to be right about something. Pity that is all you can ever do on these forums, apart from act like a pompous prock. Look! look Scorp a spelling mistake, get it quick before it goes away Sorry though to take the wind from your sails but you best just check that post of Rabbit's again. Natalie …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 01 Aug 06
    • 1:00 am

    Follow the Yellow Cake Road. Follow the Yellow Cake Road. Follow, follow, follow, follow, follow the poison over the stream, follow the DU which kills and maims, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow the yellow cake road. You’re off to see the Rabbit, The Wonderful Rabbit of Oz. You’ll find he is a rabid old rabbit! If ever a Rabbit! there was. If ever oh ever a Rabbit there was The Rabbit of Oz is one because, Because, because, because, because, because. Because of the wonderful things he does. You’re off to see the Rabbit. The Wonderful Rabbit of Oz. .........................^^....................... …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 02 Aug 06
    • 2:56 am

    Natalie Those are not character attacks Batgirl. They are mockery of you. Besides which your character is of such a type that it renders insults impossible. Character attacks like your accusations of impure motives and drug addiction etc towards professionals and others who speak out are the issue. Your disingenuous words are a constant indigtment of your cause. By the way your last post says a lot about you too. Corpse You make a big deal out of any spelling errors you twerp. You just made a federal case over the word riven! You quoted for no other purpose than that. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 02 Aug 06
    • 3:24 am

    As far as this thread is concerned, you pair of abject morons have failed to do anything except produce what little exists to support the official fairy tale thus proving for me that nothing except far out theories exist to do so. You have also demonstrated as I predicted would happen that only morons who deny and lie can support the offical tale, which is why you are alone still, and why your numbers are dwindling all the time. You may eventually be the last two people still believing the lie, how amusing and how I do hope it will be …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 02 Aug 06
    • 7:28 am

    Too late Natsky, its all been covered before. OBL denied having anything to do with 9/11, al-Qaeda is CIA controlled, everyone but you knows that, and I thought you were denying it was bombs? The FBI don't have him down as responsible even but I guess you know more than the FBI? Making an arsehole out of yourself as you are now doing is pathetic even for you. Red cross have said there were no Hezbollah in Qana by the way. Your case is dead and buried, Bat, but you stay here and roll around in it's remains. It's what you …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 02 Aug 06
    • 7:43 am

    Knowing how much the truth annoys Batgirl and Corpse. The day before the "kidnap" of the Israeli soldier, Israel "kidnapped" Palestinians. It was even reported in the news albeit briefly before the story mysteriously vanished. Here it is. Hezbollah captured the two IOF soldiers in Lebanon. The timeline of events in the ME, prove irrevocably that Israel is the instigator, the terrorist and that Hezbollah are defending themselvs by firing their pretty little rockets into the land of Zion. The Katyushas unfortunately are not anywhere near as effective as the tens of thousands of bombs and missiles and …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 02 Aug 06
    • 11:25 am

    No doubt you reckon Israel was just defending itself? So why were they preparing this invasion over a year ago? Israeli newspapers have stated outright that the invasion was prepared and just seeking any excuse. Of course that sort of news would never be printed in the USA, since the Idiot American Goyim need to be kept ignorant for them to be milked out of their treasure, so the Zionist controled press keeps the lid on it in the USA, not hard to do with morons like you two stinking up the place. Most of the rest of the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 02 Aug 06
    • 12:09 pm

    Interesting friends your emperor has. What was that about drugs? Well they have to come from somewhere I guess! Rabbit shall leave you pair of Assholes with a nice little song in honour of your emperor. Enjoy it. You are also free to slime up the place and make bigger dicks of yourselves, without me replying since I'm not wasting time debating any of this with such human waste as you are. Mostly I'm making use of the edit function to "store" these posts for use on other forums, wherever ignorance needs an injection of the truth. The rabbit …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 02 Aug 06
    • 10:11 pm

    Ignoring the dribbling Bat, Rabbit just drops in some more proof she is an inveterate liar. Batgirl at Natalie on Jul 27, 2006 at 10:01 PM. 3) All kinds of planes have been intercepted by NORAD in the past (not true, only 1 has, and in 1hr, 22min.) I just came across this which states they scrambled 67 times in the nine months before 9/11. Either she is the biggest liar, or the biggest idiot about. I have not kept track of the outright lies she has been caught out in with this thread, but it is close …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 03 Aug 06
    • 4:11 am

    KansasKal is in Oz? The rabbit thought Kansas is in USA He has our flag upon his posts, what does this mean? Are you in Oz or do you fly Rabbit's little flag for respect? Glad to have been of service. Batgirl asks one hopper What is it that Israel must do to satisfy their critics? What do you think would be necessary to pacify the Arab population? Long term and another hopper answers. They could stop killing their leaders, kidnapping their people, murdering their civilians and then pull back to the pre 1967 borders as all Arab nations have demanded, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 03 Aug 06
    • 5:21 am

    Scorpling you are such a dope and so full of delusions and imaginings. Rabbit has exactly three email adresses and two of them are banned from ITT thanks to creeps like you and Batgirl. Besides which I challenge anyone to change their ID's on this site in what must be less than two or three minutes of Kal's and Rabbit's posts above. One thing you could not know is how slow is my computer what's more with only 257meg ram it is slow as a wet week to log on or off anything anyway. Not that your feeble opinion is worth …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 03 Aug 06
    • 5:37 am

    Why would someone who has spent two weeks reading this, who has come to a conclusion and who has clearly got your number Batgirl, care to play your pathetic games? Kal's point is that he came he saw he learnt. You just lost another Faither, and you won't be getting him back. Do you think by engaging him at this stage he would change his mind? You are a wackjob! You just don't know when to quit, but that doesn't mean the game aint' over. For you it is. You have been told that you are worse than useless to the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 03 Aug 06
    • 10:22 pm

    Thankyou Batgirl Now that is why the Batgirl is the leader of your team SCorpse. You are not Sherlock but a confused Dr Watson. Though indeed the flattery and Oz flag would admittedly lend doubt, and if Kal doesn't return to confirm himself the rabbit will be more inclined to think it is Scorpy being sneaky. Maybe he has hooked up with an Aussie dittohead and they are going to attempt some guerilla trick to discredit the Bun? Nat you are being disingenuous again. Kal stated quite clearly if you read that he is not joining any discussion. He very politely …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 03 Aug 06
    • 10:26 pm

    Nat your lengthy posts don't contain facts unless they are irrelevant, and logic is not a thing you understand even. Perhaps you would care to list three facts which support the official lies? Your source stating Armadinejad speaks of destroying Israel is typical of your failure to understand facts and how they might be established. An AP article saying he said this, is not the last word. It is not quoting the man, it is paraphrasing him and anyone who has any clues knows that such an AP story is almost certainly not accurate since they also made claims he said …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 04 Aug 06
    • 12:39 am

    Natalie a survey of 1000 people is statistically insignificant. If it is nationwide as claimed, that would be fewer than twenty people in each state! Amusingly because you produced it here is the opening paragraph. More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll. It isn't a scientific poll in the sense the Zogby polls from earlier were, but it doesn't claim to be either. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 04 Aug 06
    • 12:42 am

    What doesn't make sense about chemical studies which find traces of thermate residues? Apart from the fact no explanation can be found for it in the fairy tale?

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 04 Aug 06
    • 2:24 am

    Seeing as how these Zyber Shildiers are crawling all over the net on most sites at the moment....where's ITT's? Are you franchising on this one Batgirl?

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 04 Aug 06
    • 2:39 am

    Here is something you might like kaere flagermus..............

    =It has finally happened. On Sunday evening, July 30th, and again on the evening of August 1st, C-Span broadcast a one and a half hour panel discussion and presentation hosted by Alex Jones of PrisonPlanet.com that took place in Los Angeles on June 25, 2006. The event broadcast was only a portion of the entire panel-style symposium and included such notables from the Internet "underground" as Webster G. Tarpley [George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography], physicist and professor Steven Jones, LT COL Bob Bowman, USAF [ret.], and professor James Fetzer, founder of the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 04 Aug 06
    • 4:37 am

    This includes ominous news but a better perspective.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 04 Aug 06
    • 4:53 am

    Natalie there are many Jews who are anti Zionist to the extent they won't even recognise its right to exist. The Jews who founded and who are the controlling class of Israel are not semitic jews, they are Khazars, from Eastren Europe. The Palestinians included jews who true semites though mostly they are semitic muslims. The Ashkenazi controlled racist apartheid Jewsish state of Israel is not a representative of the semitic race, but its main tormentor. And you talk of facts. Rabbit is anti-Zionist but only on the basis of their evil actions. If they stop doing evil things I …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 04 Aug 06
    • 5:11 am

    Some Zionist quotes for perspective on what Rabbit or Prime Minister Armadinejad might say about Israel. "We must expel Arabs and take their places." -- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." -- David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978. "Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 04 Aug 06
    • 9:08 am

    WTH I beg your parden? Will any of these alternative sources help you to face up to such a simple reality or is the denial too great? Sydney Morning Herald San Francisco Chronicle Malaysia Sun The Australian Your kneejerk reaction to Rense ignores as usual the fact it is just a news nexus. Watch it on ITV Watch the captain Jacob's denials, do they make you feel justified? They good enough for you WTH? Do you think the 4 dead UN observers were staged? What about the bridges airports power stations are these staged too WTH? …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 05 Aug 06
    • 4:06 am

    WTH Cognitive Dissonance is cognitive dissonance no matter how you dress it up. The ambulances were targeted, the UN observers were killed, the babies and kiddies were blown up in Qana. Nobody is denying it except you. Even the Israelis no longer claim Hezbollah was anywhere near Qana. They don't deny shooting the ambulances, never did actually. This kind of makes the independant branching off of speculation in order to maintain the illusion, you are doing by denying it a bit silly. You need look no further than the Israelis themselves to realise the truth of their actions. Sure they start …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 05 Aug 06
    • 4:33 am

    Batgirl I looked at those links already and I think if that's the best you've got, then please admit it. They are easier for intelligent people to look at and see their essential poverty than for me to waste time pointing it out. I would strongly suggest people look at them, since as usual the official story can only be shown to be backed by a limited, self perpetuating few with nothing but theories, faith to hold them up. So long as people have given the Scholars for 9/11 truth site a good consideration, in its case all claims are simple, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 05 Aug 06
    • 4:48 am

    I see Natalie is doing the fruit loop again on the 19 magic arabs. Were there some arabs anywhere to do with planes? Maybe, maybe not. But if there were arabs on the planes they didn't fly at least two of the planes, these were flown with a skill level far in excess of average. No planes or fires caused any buildings to collapse, with or without arabs at the controls. Hugo Chavez calls Israel Nazis and the USA Dracula. Venezuala recalls their ambassador to Israel in protest. Now watch the morons spin this to mean Venezuala is dangerous and …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 06 Aug 06
    • 12:34 am

    Israeli and Palestinian Sources Concur: Israel Made War Inevitable The Omega Institute (OI), which works closely with the Institute for Policy Research for Development (IPRD), has learned from Israeli and Palestinian sources that just prior to the current crisis, senior Hamas leaders were in active dialogue with Israeli religious leaders in a round of bilateral peace negotiations. Israeli negotiators included Rabbi Menachem Froman, former deputy leader and co-founder of the Israeli Settler movement Gush Khatif; Rabbi David Bigman, head of the liberal religious Kibbutz movement Yeshiva at Ma?ale Gilboa; and Yitzhak Frankenthal, founder of the Arik Institute. Ongoing negotiations had …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 06 Aug 06
    • 1:38 am

    WTH Are we to take it that you do not believe that Israel targeted with missiles and strafed two Red Cross ambulances? Reading your posts above leaves Rabbit in doubt as to whether or not you even believe Israel has actually killed more than 500 civilians or indeed 4 UN observers? The UN say the base was shelled 14 times despite numerous protests, and that Irsael was ignoring their demands to cease fire when Israel then bombed the UN post. But you WTH seem to consider this not convicing somehow is this how it is old boy? You think that the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 06 Aug 06
    • 4:06 am

    That's right Batgirl I'd trust any treaty signed by Arabs because they have not broken any. It helps that they have a religion which respects all people and which doesn't void all agreements with Goyim though also. I'd trust nothing from the Israeli or US governments because they have both broken every treaty they ever entered into as far as history goes. How dumb of you to raise such a personally devastating comparison Nat. Now it seems even Israeli Pilots are baulking at firing on civilians. They too are getting the picture they are being used to commit war …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 06 Aug 06
    • 4:20 am

    Nobody expects you to agree to anything Batgirl. Do you think we post responses to a shill in the belief it will read or be educated? We do it to counteract your lies and to annoy you. You personally are just an apologist for war crimes, a propaganda shill, they pop up in every war. You are doomed to see your empire collapse and all your dreams be crushed and you'll live out your last days in ignominious shame. That's just the way of it. As far as your karma, your path to perdition goes, we are but the passing parade. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 06 Aug 06
    • 4:24 am

    So their troops may be able to question, but the good little American enablers must not doubt for a moment. Keep on coming with the bombs and cash you goy cattle. At least two Israeli fighter pilots have deliberately missed civilian targets in Lebanon as disquiet grows in the military about flawed intelligence, The Observer has learnt. Sources say the pilots were worried that targets had been wrongly identified as Hizbollah facilities. Voices expressing concern over the armed forces' failures are getting louder. One Israeli cabinet minister said last week: 'We gave the army so much money. Why are we getting …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 06 Aug 06
    • 4:29 am

    So there in their own words are admissions they are not just targetting Hezbollah as they say. Heh no problem. Batgirl and WTH will gladly keep on with the old denial on their behalf. They could kill your own kids and you'd be making excuses for them. Sickening! It is quite farcical the way you morons claim atrocities in various places, like Iraq under Hussein, like Somalia or East Timor or even acts of barbarity in Iran. To claim knowledge of these requires you to believe organistaions like Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International who do the actual reporting on such …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 06 Aug 06
    • 4:59 am

    What part about Hezbollah offering to avoid civilian casualties if Israel will do the same don't you sickos understand anyway? Why would Israel not agree to this if they are indeed not wanting to hit civilians? How can you still accuse Hezbollah of targeting Israeli civilians without jusification?

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 06 Aug 06
    • 11:46 pm

    Fox news is sayinge xactly what you are Batgirl. Is this where you get your information? It sure looks like it. Here is you own argument, put forth by Fox, in full colour. They do it even better than you, but you are in lockstep agreement. Cutting across the propaganda censorship. See how it looks when the real questions are asked. When the press isn't goose-stepping alongside you and all other fascists down through history.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 06 Aug 06
    • 11:57 pm

    These are the people who you want us to see as victims. You shall know a man by his friends. Here a glimpse at your friends. The Israeli military has Halakhah as a swron policy. The 'halakhah' is the list of 613 'mizvot' that followers of judaism must ascribe to. These are rules that govern everyday life. There are specific 'halakhah' for conduct during war including how you should treat a gentile woman before you rape her; to exterminate the seven Canaanite nations from the land of Israel; and the desire for perpetual war as listed below. Mizvot 598-613: 598. That …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 07 Aug 06
    • 12:22 am

    Good one WTH. The US military won any war they won, but bureacrats and politicians lost the others. With such a grasp of historical facts you really should be teaching. Come to think of it from what I hear you could easily be a history teacher in the USA. I catch regular glimpses of your students. You are way back out there with the fairies in your meanderings again. Scorp it puzzles me that you would be devoting more space in trying to falsely describe the seismic records and to somehow re-interpret them than the actual reports themselves fill up. Why …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 07 Aug 06
    • 12:29 am

    I have a simple question, I wonder if any of the unwise and ignoble can give an honest and simple answer. One word will do nicely, if one is knowing honesty. That is all. Let's see what you are made of, oh unwise and ignoble ones. Do you think that the wars on Afghanistan and Iraq would be justified if it were proven that Muslim fanatics were not the prime movers behind 9/11? "OUR RACE IS THE MASTER RACE. WE ARE DIVINE GODS ON THIS PLANET. WE ARE AS DIFFERENT FROM THE INFERIOR RACES AS THEY ARE FROM INSECTS. IN FACT, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 07 Aug 06
    • 12:41 am

    Major I am tending more towards stupidity than willfull ignorance on Nat's behalf. It seems doubtful she even reads the sources she herself posts, unless it is those ones which explore fifty different ways to say "that's just a crazy thing to believe". Half Batgirl's own sources are barely establishing some minor point for her, while contributing substantially to my case at the same time. I'm too used to it to want more than that people look themselves with open minds at anything she suggests. 50% of the time it's a direct own goal while the remainder is typically just some …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 07 Aug 06
    • 2:15 am

    That was predictable!

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 07 Aug 06
    • 2:28 am

    You do realise that nobody at all ever denied there was such a thing as Muslim fanatics, o queen of the strawmen...? Yes I admit there are such a thing as Muslim fanatics, I always did, Batgirl. But when does the Bat admit there are also Jewish Fanatics and Christian fanatics equally so? That would be a matter of consequence but you have taken a long time to realise I never deny Muslim fanatics exist when I never did. Pretty stupid really since I've discussed the history of and posted references to the history of these Muslim Fanatic groups. The issue …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 07 Aug 06
    • 3:26 am

    More bad news I'm afraid denialists. When you wake up and smell that burning smell it isn't coffee. Declassified papers show U.S. atrocities went far beyond My Lai. How many times have you smeared the name of Jamie Henry my ignoble and unwise ones? called him a liar and a traitor? Who now are the liars? This is just the tip of the iceberg, as well it speaks for itself.. Once again showing the only point I ever wish to make with such news, the USA is not better, or more moral, or more disciplined or more humane and nor …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 3:14 am

    I don't know where all the pictures of suffering Israelis are. I guess the majority of Hezbollah's target's being IDF soldiers does limit the impact a lot. This is what Halakhah looks like on the ground, in practice.. Have a good look you unwise and ignoble creatures who support the Israeli terror state. This is your work, this is what the policies you espouse create. Spinning it to blame the victims is just the sort of behaviour we would expect of the sort of sick fucks who think this is measured or justified actions by the worst human rights offender …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 3:37 am

    Why hasn't the 9/11 truth movement put forth legitimate arguments you idiot girl? Because you say so? Best go read that site you never have done yet, go read the hundreds of letters including from Engineers and other related fields who support the 9/11 Scholars research. Legitimate arguments are all we have made, unlike you. What I think happens is that you have a mental condition which equates every single point we have as your own, and somehow you ascribe your own dismal showing for the official fairy tale as belonging to us. Facts speak for themselves, ou prove it by …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 4:10 am

    I find the use of Human Shields, as distinct from the mere unfounded accusations of doing so, to be one of the more disgusting acts of cowardice any ARMY can engage in. Of course, a simple reading of the Halakhah will show this too is considered to be legitimate when Jooz do it, basically the enemies of the Zionist state are mere cattle, sub-human, their blood is not worth anything next to a single Israeli soldier. That is their policy and they live by it. It isn't your policy supposedly but you support them blindly in theirs so it is the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 4:28 am

    Natalie Stop playing with your strawmen, stupid girl the rabbit spits contemptuously upon your ignorant little postings about red herrings. Go deal with the real facts. Your case about Hezbollah and Israel just got demolished by the fact of Israeli use of human shields, their stated policy of civilian murder and of racial superiority and the massive civilian death toll compared with Hezbollah's far superior targeting. If all you can do is whine on about trying to define some handful of Muslim fundamentalist violence with the far greater terror which is being visited upon Muslims by your scum, then you are …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 4:45 am

    You go on about Israel defending itself, we point out that Israel attacked Lebanon first, and that capture of soldiers is not an act of terror or unreasonable in the situation and that Israel holds thousands of Lebanese and Palestinians in their gulags, you say nothing more about this. You go on about Hezbollah targetting civilians and we point out that the casualty figures alone show Israel is killing a far greater number of civilians and at a greater rate compared to their alleged Hezbollah targets. You claim that civilian deaths in lebanon are accidental while the few Israeli civlians killed …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 4:54 am

    Frog the George Galloway interview is a diamond. Rabbit saw it yesterday, has saved it to file and has seen it about five times so far today too. We know what this Scotsman has under his kilt. Big Brass Balls. He makes Braveheart look like a ponce. The pathetic interviewer Anne spoke of many emails for and against him, but apparently out of 99 emails she got about the interview, only three were for her/against George. That would be Natalie, Scorp and one more I guess. Here is some of those brave defenders of your freedom's handy work being looked …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 5:54 am

    Furthermore you slandering Fruit Bat you called me anti-semitic and I pointed out that the Jews of Israel are not semites and that many Jews don't support Israel either and then you no longer want to talk about that. TRUE TORAH JEWS http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ NETUREI KARTA http://www.nkusa.org/ NOT IN MY NAME http://www.nimn.org/ JEWS NOT ZIONISTS http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/ B'TSELEM - The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories http://www.btselem.org/English/index.asp JEWISH VOICE FOR PEACE http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/ For further political action and information see http://www.cnionline.org and http://www.endtheoccupation.org/ and http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/ and http://www.pchrgaza.org/ and http://www.voicesofpalestine.org/

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 9:32 am

    Rule # 1: In the Middle East, it is always the Arabs that attack first, and it's always Israel who defends itself. This is called "retaliation". Rule # 2: The Arabs, whether Palestinians or Lebanese, are not allowed to kill Israelis. This is called "terrorism". Rule # 3: Israel has the right to kill Arab civilians; this is called "self-defense", or these days "collateral damage". Rule # 4: When Israel kills too many civilians, the Western world calls for restraint. This is called the "reaction of the international community". Rule # 5: Palestinians and Lebanese do not have the right to …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 10:13 pm

    Fruit Bat Nat. You are going to have a real problem with your boyfriend, the special troll Scorp. You see he Scorpse has a special Chinese connection and he is going to be somewhat torn in his loyalty to your fascist Zionists very shortly. I'm not paying attention much to the Bat, is she trying to bring up some sort of ancient unrelated history to the topic now? What a surprise! I think if I say that I am not anti-Jewish, that is the end of the matter you duplicitous bat! If I am anti anything it is anti-lies. I …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 10:23 pm

    WTH Is it possible the rabbit has done something for which he should apologise? Please do refresh my memory if this is the case, for if you have not learned Rabbit is quite capable of apologising when appropriate then you have not learned anything..........what am I saying, of course you have not!. Well give it a shot, but be warned if it is more of your trying to re-write history then be aware of the likely response. I thought the news of the truth about Vietnam atrocities might have given you pause to think about that few rotten apples excuse and …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Aug 06
    • 10:48 pm

    One of the more recent charges? You have been calling the rabbit anti-semitic for even longer than that reference you made above. Like everything you say it is just so much hot wind and ravings, as logic dictates. My reply to the spurious charge is proof in itself you are wrong. If the man says he is not anti-Jewish or anti-semitic then he isn't. That's how it is in the real world. You are the one who is so mixed up you confuse support for Irsael to be support for Jews. Israel is an extremist Jewish state, but MANY Jews the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Aug 06
    • 12:26 am

    This is more of the developing scary but exciting thing. Wiley do keep an ear out for anything about China at this time. Who would have thought we would be looking to China for human rights protection, and so soon? It was horrible and yet so typical the way the Fruit bat pecked at Kal, as soon as somebody loses the faith she is ready to have them executed. Death is too good for these Bush hating, truth loving ratbags isn't it Batgirl? They should be cursed to debate with you (sic), for ever instead.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Aug 06
    • 4:05 am

    Well the smart money would have to be on China. They make up fpr the technological gap with a vast force which could be cut in half and still be the biggest in the world. They have also got the advantage of much more farsighted and intelligent leaders than any of our lot, least of all the grand poobar himself, The Decider. Dammit though its a devilish hard language to learn. Maybe Scorp will get the last laugh.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Aug 06
    • 3:41 am

    I can't stand wading through the Bat Shit and Corpses so shall just post this in answer to the most disgusting slander which has now made this thread too rank for further consideration. You guys sure do bring the tone of the place down Batgirl and Scorpse. I keep hearing accusations of Holocaust Denial and anti-semitism being hurled about like some primitiv shotgun defence against all Israeli actions and have this to say about it. Holocaust denial as such is a small group of stooges who are mostly fake plants to derail any historical study of the Holocaust. I don't know …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Aug 06
    • 3:57 am

    You pair of morons look cute complimenting each other on each your own completely spurious faith filled accounts. Scorpse's wishful thinking: circumstantial evidence, conjecture, and dishonesty doesn't seem very relevant next to just these questions. (1) the impact of the planes cannot have caused enough damage to bring the buildings down, since the buildings were designed to withstand them (as Frank DeMartini, the project manager, has observed), the planes that hit were very similar to those they were designed to withstand, and they continued to stand after those impacts with negligible effects; (2) the melting point of steel at 2,800*F is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Aug 06
    • 7:23 am

    The Scorpling has outdone himslef again. After having fumbled and fiddled about with the most basic facts about explosives and demolitions, and then as he has read more and copied bits out of sources his boasts about his qualifications and experience have gone from originally having helped someone do some metal cutting, to now he is claiming to have "training, experience, and observations as a military demolitions expert" Piss of you stupid litle man! You made an ass of yourself al the way down from your first ignorant litle statement which was that you knew of "no difference between military demolitions …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Aug 06
    • 7:37 am

    More on that Poll Batgirl shot herself in the foot with. 30% of Americans don't know what year 9/11 was in! What's the bet they all go with the fairy tale? Their opinion about what happened should be useful. Presbyterian Press prints book accusing the Bushling of being behind 9/11. That must really make you gnash your fangs in fury Batgirl. Now you have got to sling shit at the Presbyterians! God how that must irk you! Time for a cartoon.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Aug 06
    • 10:02 pm

    WTH The small silly comments by you are really pathetic and thus attaching yourself to the degraded characters of two berserk morons is hardly good for your own at least partially respectably image, I have to tell you. Since I only deal with facts and measured opinions, and have amassed a completely logical case against the faith based screechings and spurious prattlings and hollow rhetoric of two fools who are completely devoid of support from any quarter, your pathetic attempts to belittle the rabbit backfire upon your own selves. You make farcical, claims which can only be seen as self ironic. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Aug 06
    • 11:11 pm

    A special bit of a wacking for the Corpse. Quite apart from the fact that air resistance is negligible in this circumstance (low velocity and high density are factors), Ah but little Scorpy there would be "some" air resistance, surely you know that the figure for gravity assumes a vacuum, which is not the case on the earth, we have air resistance and the important thing is that it was a plus factor, it would increase the time from perfect gravity calculations which are what the scxientists are working with. Further more I recall you have had to theorise the exploding …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Aug 06
    • 11:28 pm

    Explosive Events in the Twin Towers While the explosive nature of the events that destroyed the Twin Towers is evident in their gross features such as the mushrooming of the tops and the huge clouds of concrete dust produced in the air, there are many specific observations that point to the detonations of explosions within the towers. Eyewitness Reports Many eyewitnesses who were near the South Tower when it began its precipitous collapse reported sights and sounds of explosions. Several accounts are described in the evidence section. Energetic Ejections of Dust and Objects Explosive ejection of dust early in the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Aug 06
    • 12:01 am

    I think if anyone was going to read that collection of theorising faith filled rant you keep posting they would have gotten the message by Now Batgirl. Is the rabbit needing tp reply with his own simple one stop shop for verifiable facts and easliy verified science which speaks for itself, every time you do this thing? Are you seriously thinking you can outbreed a rabbit? The thing is Rabbit knows how to stretch some boundaries with some flair, you're own imitations fall flat and crass, lacking the co-ordination or dexterity of thinking to compete in the world of "avante …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Aug 06
    • 12:08 am

    Batgirl. I can see you have gone into full berserk shill mode with your desperate attempts to spin another total demolition job on you and one of your paid to shill causes. Your poll is old hat and shows that 37% of people believe the government was behind 9/11 as well as thirty percent who didn't know what year 9/11 was in. About the same 34% of people who don't even know WTC-7 collapsed as well, also believe the official story. Your own links betray your cause you are as I've said before the dumbest bat in the tower. Don't you …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Aug 06
    • 12:35 am

    We all know why you and all the shills and the media is running a massive spoiler campaign now don't we Batgirl? The 9/11 debate has broken through into the mainstream, as the increasingly hysterical but predictable tired old strawmen and rampant ranting interspersed with grand rhetoric presented as Facts in themselves when rhetoric is but a refuge for scoundrels. The increasingly shrill denials and hands over ears approach of the media and all the usual bunch of grubby raving neo-con lunatics and their family and friends all over the place is a reaction to a number of significant new developments. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Aug 06
    • 1:02 am

    Hello Joe We'll have to wait and see the Scorpy's verdict about whether or not you are just the rabbit's sock puppet. If he should come on and make such a claim do ignore the brute, he is just the Lowest Common Denominator. Natalie is runner up for the title, so you'll excuse her ill manners too, she will probably launch into a fangs and fury assault upon your integrity and sanity as soon as it becomes evident you are not a holder of the faith. Or worse, that your faith is waning. It hasn't been possible with all else …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Aug 06
    • 1:18 am

    Kevin Ryan's "What is 9/11 Truth? – The First Steps" Discussing the NIST report: With step three we quickly get to the core of NIST’s collapse initiation argument. Their report states that “The WTC towers likely would not have collapsed under the combined effects of aircraft impact damage and the extensive, multi-floor fires if the thermal insulation had not been widely dislodged or had been only minimally dislodged by aircraft impact.” Considering that NIST so clearly depends on extensive fireproofing loss, you would think they would have spent a great deal of their time and money investigating this effect and …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Aug 06
    • 5:55 am

    You are being competely irrational you silly fruit bat. Answer the simple facts with simple answers if you have them or admit you cannot answer them. Ignoring the wealth of evidence and facts we present while all the while brazenly declaring we have presented nothing substantial is crippling what puny chance you ever owned to make the official myth stand a bit of scrutiny. Even I could make a better case for the official myth than you pair of morons are doing. What about the molten steel? I asked you directly now over and over but just as with the Sulphur …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Aug 06
    • 6:11 am

    How did the steel melt ? How did the Sulphur and Molybdenum get into the steel samples? How did the buildings fall at freefall speed and with materials and steel being ejected hundreds of feet horizontally as it fell? How did the concrete all get pulverised? Come on some serious prevarication is called for here, you are not being let off the hook. Get out and dance like a craven prevaricator so Rabbit can show off his dancing trolls to the HonestJoe. Wait till you see them dance Joe . Lots of weird positions and poses, they manage to be quite …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Aug 06
    • 6:21 am

    BTW Batgirl I think you might want to ask WTH's permission before including him in your band of pirates. You see he already knows things are not right, he has his own video of the day's new's reports which he found actually supports our story too. Now I'm sure he is hanging about and will do all he can to help your case, because he desperately needs confirmation of his faith, but something tells me he is not going to want to get in the firing line for I have the impression he is still unable to completely ignore the sorts …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Aug 06
    • 2:43 pm

    You are now doing your own personal fruit loop Scorp. We've heard your fanciful guessing about things before. You can;t use an answer for something if that answer destroys some feeble attempt you have previously made to theorise about something else. Now either there was no significant resistance as you try to believe, or there was enough for sufficient pressure to build up and eject steel hundreds of feet. Trouble is that would imply significant couterforce which should slow down the buildings more even than normal atmospheric air pressure. Anyway your pseudo intellectual prevarications are a waste of time since these …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Aug 06
    • 3:00 pm

    You are creating red herrings which once again depict your own ignorance Scorp. The collapse of the WTC's were technically in their own footprints. In the same way controlled demos can also eject debris and there is nothing untoward in the way it happens in the three WTC's. You are the moron who is arbitrarily now deciding that a controlled demo is more precise than it is. The type of fall was known as a fall into it's own footprint, technically, actually and not even disputed except by this Johnny come lately Scorpy. You are one feeble joke Scorp, a real …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 12:48 am

    Rabbit has read the NIST report and it is rubbish. It is reviewed throughout this thread so I have no need to go into it all again. So long as people read the Journal of 9/11 studies as well I think they should read evrything that Batgirl suggests. Everything they read will simply show like I keep saying, there is nothing but a faith based case for the fairy tale of Magic Arabs. Batgirl you are without doubt the most craven liar I have ever encountered. There is NO dispute that there was molten steel in the basements underground of all …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 12:51 am

    THE SEISMOGRAPH More explosive evidence comes from the seismographs at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, New York, 21 miles north of the WTC. This facility recorded strange seismic activity on September 11 that has still not been explained. Seismographs (at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, New York, 21 miles north of the WTC) prove that before each collapse, huge explosions went off under the Towers. While the aircraft crashes caused minimal earth shaking, significant earthquakes with unusual spikes occurred at the beginning of each collapse. The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 1:10 am

    Scorp's rant isn't sense you dimwit. Saying that the steel was forced out by the pancake effect, which is itself a disputed theory and nothing else, is not what we call a scientific explanation. For that you have to consider physics, in the sort of way Greener and Ross have been debating on Journal of 9/11 studies. Scorp's illiterate response is similar to explaining the rain like this. "The rain falls out of the clouds" You are not crawling away from the molten steel. The NASA thermal imaging doesn't leave you the option to deny it, sorry Bat, but you have …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 2:32 am

    Well Batgirl, that was a lot of desperate subject changing. I pointed out that I have dealt with various issues of the failings of the NIST report and that is where my commenst about it stand. That it is rubbish, is the same view as held by numerous qualified people so qualified or not Batgirl I'm in good company. The NIST report is adequately dealt with by the Scholars for 9/11 truth. Now you are still rabidly avoiding the molten steel, it is real, and you are just avoiding it, simple afcator as it is, you are ignoring it. Come on …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 2:39 am

    Whistling in the dark there I see Bat. You are in a panic because 9/11 is breaking into the mainstream, breaking through the fog of lies you have helped maintain, just like I promised it would, way back when you used to triumphantly demand to see scholars for 9/11 truth. Long before Professor Jones came along, and all you had to do was slime Griffin, way back then I told you we would forge ahead since the science was always behind us. Back then even I wouldn't have expected it to have come this far, with the profile of the movement …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 2:49 am

    Hezbollah are better men and women than any of the invading swine who are engaged in a holocaust of their country. By the way the Israeli's just attacked another convoy of evacuees, this time Christians who were once their allies but who now are more than 80% in support of Hezbollah. They killed about ten Christian evacuees and wounded many more. Rescuers are unable to get in to help because the war pigs are attacking the rescuers too. I guess they saw a convoy of unarmed civilians as too good an opportunity to pass up, being the beasts they are. Oh …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 2:55 am

    Anyway you just ignore all this uncomfortable truth Natalie, you have some MOLTEN STEEL to face up to. It is good you grovelled in the muck of slanderous personal attacks on the presbyterians though and I think you'd better take a shot at Lou Dobbs, he seems to be losing the faith too. Rabbit asked you to do the dirty dance and you did. Obedient and predictable Bat. You must not forget to face the fact of Molten Steel, Rabbit will not accept you just pretend it didn't happen. You have been unable to answer anything at all beyond speculation or …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 11:07 pm

    Natalie, why do you go on and on about the witnesses who said they saw molten steel, even if "some" of those whose jobs were most beholden to the government denied it later? This is by far the most weak piece of proof compared to the NASA thermal imaging. Do you seriously think it isn't obvious that you are ignoring the NASA data for preferring to fool around with the inconclusive nature of any witness testimony by itself? The witnesses statements are confirmed by the thermal imaging, without the thermal imaging you might have some justification going after the witnesses, but …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 11:27 pm

    The following from Jone's report includes more on the molten steel. Try and deny it all Batgirl. Of course you will, but can that sort of denial of evidence actually help your position? How about you WTH are you still watching this? What do you reckon about the denial of Molten steel? Could you even sink to the depths of irrationality which Batgirl is displaying here? Why do you think she's deny it? There is only one answer isn't it? Cognitive Dissonance. You have a mental problem Natalie. There are several published observations of molten metal in the basements of all …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 11:36 pm

    Thermite contains its own supply of oxygen and so the reaction cannot be smothered, even with water. Use of sulfur in conjunction with the thermite, for example in thermate, will accelerate the destructive effect on steel, and sulfidation of structural steel was indeed observed in some of the few recovered members from the WTC rubble, as reported in Appendix C of the FEMA report. (FEMA, 2002; see also, http://www.911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurgy/index.html.) Professor Jones destroys Bazant and Zhou in a few paragraphs.

    A Mechanical Engineering professor suggested that I review a paper by Zedenek P. Bazant and Yong Zhou, which I did. Quoting: The …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 11:44 pm

    Just making a bonfire of the NIST report.

    NIST makes the startling admission in a footnote on page 80 of their Final Report: The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the "probable collapse sequence," although it does not actually include the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached...(NIST, 2005, p. 80, fn. 12; emphasis added.) Again, on page 142, NIST admits that their computer simulation only …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Aug 06
    • 11:47 pm

    Natalie the STEEL WAS MOLTEN, and you are stuck. You cannot admit it yet there is no dispute that it was molten. I've got you Batgirl. CHECKMATE! I am surprised really, you have come up with so much bullshit to explain away literally hundreds of serious anomalies with the official line ignoring Gravity, and Physics and history, so so much you are prepared to go to the lengths of denying in the name of your fabulous faith. Yet after all that you cannot cope with something like the melting point of steel. Surely you could tweak the temperatures a bit in …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Aug 06
    • 12:07 am

    Rabbit has presented a factual and logical and scientific case from the start. Ocasionally venturing into left field to aim some well earned wacks upon you and your comrade in ignorance, just because you deserve it. Beyond that my case has been based upon verifiable facts, not random speculation and my case has been completey independant of anyone's opinion, since it has only involved verifiable facts and verifiable science. No new or unproven theories in any of my case Batgirl. Nothing experimental, nothing hidden. I have not attempted to muddy the waters with endless streams of ranting opinions by debunkers, but …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Aug 06
    • 12:12 am

    You are so out there Nat. You can't claim you have any rationality left. Even if you admitted it was just a mystery how it was so hot, but that you still had complete faith in the official story. The NASA thermal imaging and all those other reports including what would be termed official? How do you expalin the NASA imaging you silly fool? Can you even say it ..............NASA? If you are just going to sit on the floor with your hands over your pointy ears and say you are wrong you are wrong, what is the point of claiming …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Aug 06
    • 1:32 am

    The Bat is stuck. Hung on the hook of reality. You are denying the veracity of NASA thermal imaging data and that is the end of you NAT. You can't blather your way out of this. Not once have I rejected actual measured data from any government agency. It is their data which I invariably use to debunk the faith based fairy story. You rave your accusations, but produce anything of factual data presented by any government agency which I deny? All you are doing is compounding your defeat Bat. The steel cannot be denied to have been molten. The witnesses …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Aug 06
    • 1:50 am

    I am stating outright that I have not denied any actual government agency's factual data you ratbag Batgirl. I reject their theorising and I reject their incomplete reports as being of value, but I am not so stupid as to deny scientific data provided by agencies tasked with obtaining that data. Only a fruit bat would do that. Your accusation is turned entirely on its ear, because it is you Batgirl who accepts ALL government words, whether data or mere speculative theroising, you accept it all as gospel. With this most significant exception. It is about the most certain of the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Aug 06
    • 2:23 am

    Proving once again that the rabbit is not a lying denialist like his opponents who are just craven dumbshits, is the following. This is a concession on fact, though it won't actually help your case, since it is due to a crossover of two separate seismic chart's data and my carelessnes in allowing them to be mixed up by the dissembling or maybe just confused Corpse. Upon closer examination of the seismic records I do concede that there are not significant spikes before the collapses of the towers, in the actual collapse sequence. However there is a bit of a crossover …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Aug 06
    • 2:34 am

    Natalie you are the albatross for the faith brigade case now. It would actually be better off without you, since you are now a person with no credibility. How can people learn faith from an obvious psychopath? The molten steel is such a problem for the official lies that NO effort has been made to explain it, it is simply ignored by all supporters of the official lies. I know you have no answer for it, for they don't. They have not actually tried to deny it, though individuals have done so, just the way you are doing, by outright denial. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 13 Aug 06
    • 2:43 am

    Wileywitch Batgirl understands any language which confirms her delusions, it seems to get just plain confusing for her when something doesn't agree. This isn't the first time I've seen her deny government data, she has done it a few times before when she had no other choice but to accept she is wrong otherwise. This is however the worst I've seen her stuck, the most ridiculous bit of denial she's ever gotten herself into. She isn't coming out of this eiether. She is finished, finally finished. If she is denied the opportunity to wriggle away from the molten steel she is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Aug 06
    • 11:34 pm

    The truth movment appears to be gaining momentum fast these days. It took years to go from the handful of faithful of people speaking out to about a year ago when we've been able to mention another high profile and credible voice about every month, until this last few months when we seem to be getting new voices every week at most. The excellent and ongoing re-runs of the 9/11 scholars symposium, two hours worth on C-Span is being overshadowed by the Lebanon conflict, but still obviously attarcting a lot of viewers. Here is the latest offering. Former CIA Analyst: …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Aug 06
    • 11:55 pm

    Scorp Rabbit doesn't worry about spelling errors, as always you got it backwards. It is you who have always made a habit of spending entire posts sometimes babbling on about someone's spelling or grammatical errors. Discussion forums are an informal medium and spelling nor grammar is actually expected to be perfect. As a former English Literature lumens I am secretly mortified at the carnage being wrought upon the language which for all it's idiosycrasies is still capable of being used with artistry and grace. So for all my apparent carelessness I do make an effort, but I treat it wih a …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Aug 06
    • 12:32 am

    Scorp this is the sort of sloppy logic you must guard against. Rense's photo of the cut column was fraudulent The photo was/is entirely genuine, it is not fraudulent. It may be misidentified, but if so not with any intention to decieve. It is not definately oxy cut at all but I conceded it could be either. Others have said it is looking like thermate cut and this is not actually imposible. In the intervening time since posting it, about six months ago I have decided it is more likely to be Oxy Cut, but I say that due to …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Aug 06
    • 12:44 am

    The RABBIT SAYS THE STEEL WAS MOLTEN!

    In the weeks and months after 9/11, numerous individuals report seeing molten metal in the remains of the World Trade Center: Ken Holden, who is involved with the organizing of demolition, excavation and debris removal operations at Ground Zero, later will tell the 9/11 Commission, "Underground, it was still so hot that molten metal dripped down the sides of the wall from [WTC] Building 6." [9/11 Commission, 4/1/2003] William Langewiesche, the only journalist to have unrestricted access to Ground Zero during the cleanup operation, describes, "in the early days, the streams …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Aug 06
    • 1:56 am

    Hi Frog and Wiley. Redhorse it's great that old Fidel lives, anything to keep annoying the dingbats. I wonder what chance we might see a greater union of Cuba and Venezuala with Chavez at the helm? Seen some interesting speculation. How amusing would that be? I sometimes dream of moving to South America if the option is still there and we are still no better off in Oz in a couple of years. I'm getting sick of the tyrranny, in all the small ways, the tyranny and the fakery everywhere in our grubby capitalist dreamscapes. Nobody gets a direct and proprtionate …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Aug 06
    • 2:55 am

    I said I'd give it a couple of years, but I'm not staying in a police state when something better is offering. Stay and fight sure, but once it becomes apparent it is going to be 'that' sort of fight and nothing is stirring, well how long does one wait before either picking up a stick and charging the bastards or giving up and leaving. Slavery will never be accepted. To remain in a police state without hope is slavery.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Aug 06
    • 9:08 am

    WTH What are you talking about. Back to semantics again are we? What the hell difference does it make? The photo is a genuine photo, surely nobody disputes it's a photo taken by a fireman at ground zero the original source was given. It is inconclusive if it is thermite or oxy cut, which is why I would rather concede what is chicken shit next to the other evidence of Thermate. Not least of this being the molten steel. If some other people, namely Chris Bollyn still chooses to maintain it is thermate cut, at this point it cannot be disputed …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Aug 06
    • 9:20 pm

    Just looking by to see if any intelligent comment made to what I wrote yesterday. I see it isn't. Ho hum. The samples of molten metal which were recovered from the rubble and tested, were predominatly "STEEL". They included some molybdenum and sulphur apart from the correct amounts of nickel or whatever else was in the WTC steel. The colour of the molten metal also shows it to be steel, molten aluminium is silver, not gold. Out of eight individual witness statements, (and this isn't all of them don't you know?) six said molten steel, and two said molten metal, which …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Aug 06
    • 10:14 pm

    Scientific evidence of Thermate. J.R. Barnett is a professor of fire protection engineering, and R.R. Biederman and R.D. Sisson, Jr. are professors of materials science and engineering, at Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Massachusetts. A section of an A36 wide flange beam retrieved from the collapsed World Trade Center Building 7 was examined to determine changes in the steel microstructure as a result of the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001. This building was not one of the original buildings attacked but it indirectly suffered severe damage and eventually collapsed. While the exact location of this beam could not be determined, the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 16 Aug 06
    • 1:39 am

    Natalie has no scientific comprehension at all if she is going to suggest that the planes could have registered as 0.9 and 0.7 richter seismic events. I already explained why, this was impossible, and I thought that by doing so I was being facetious. Surely you are not such an ignoramus you do not understand energy transfer, and the fact that Energy is expended in Work. Crashing into the building if the building had not given an inch, would have deployed 100% of the plane's energy into the structure which would have been transported to the ground with some loos. Every …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 16 Aug 06
    • 1:59 am

    I really can't be bothered giving you a course in Newtonian Physics, the Laws of Conservation of Energy can be looked up easily enough, but it is doubtful such a primitiv and superstitous mind as Batgirl's could actually apply this fundamental law to anything practical. It is the reason why when you hit a steel bell it rings loudly, but doesn't show a mark, while if you hit a wooden one, it is much quieter, but it also marks the wood more and finally why if you hit a cardboard box it just breaks the box and doesn't ring at all. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 16 Aug 06
    • 2:14 am

    Batgirl keeps claiming there were other explanations for the molten steel, she has said this several times, as if saying this is enough to refute a dozen separate witnesses, pictures and NASA thermal imaging. Two separate laboratory analyses also concur, I almost forgot. There are other explanations! Says the Fruit Bat, and that is that. Well Fruit Bat, there are not actually any other explanations available from within the official lie, that is a certainty. No other explanation explains why molten pools of steel were found under the rubble on all three buildings. You have no explanation which can credibly account …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 16 Aug 06
    • 2:48 am

    Here is the end of the bullshit about the plane having been able to produce such a signal crashing into the WTC's, where most of their energy was of course lost in work and thus unable to travel through the structure to create a 0.9 seismic spike. . Flight 93, supposedly crashed into the ground intact! All of it's energy was thus propagated directly into the ground, and it barely registered as a seismic event at all. Barely discernable from the background noise. Another problem you have which can be seen on that same link, is that NO seismic spike …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 16 Aug 06
    • 8:08 pm

    The geologists at Lamont-Doherty admit that they cannot explain the seismic data. they labelled it according to what is supposedly a fact, but as pointed out above a seismic reading doesn't tell what made the spike, and if the geologists only consider the collapses, then as they say, they cannot explain it, the say that it's a subject of ongoing study, ring any bells? No? Well denying information which has been provided won't win you any converts Bat, just diminish your own standing. You are already microscopic. You also lost totally on the Molten and vapourised steel, no explanation could be …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 16 Aug 06
    • 8:26 pm

    By the way Manning does believe the buildings were brought down with explosives, a read of his blog makes it clear, but he cannot be blamed for wanting to keep his head down, if you look at what had happened to Bollyn, like others before him, people are genuinely afraid of the US security apparatus. Are we proud to be supporting a police state sinking into totalitarianism? I'll bet you are little Batgirl, I'll bet you are hoping for some leather boots and a whip to go with your evil atittudes. I just hope you'll be happy when that son gets …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 16 Aug 06
    • 10:48 pm

    An interesting look at some of the lesser noted facts. This author has made a compelling case for demolition as always and he completely debunks the Floor Truss theory which is based on provably false plans of the building. But he argues as suggested by Major earlier, that the buildings were built with explosive demolition charges in place. The use of added charges and Thermate is still part of the picture, but C4 which appears to have been added at construction stage has a compelling argument in favour. He gives an interesting argument for the planes not being remote …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 16 Aug 06
    • 11:05 pm

    I think this should set the record straight about the falsehood propagated by those who think the charge of anti-semitism should silence all criticism of Israel. Don't look at the comments which will follow such a report on such a site as this, if you have just had your breakfast.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 18 Aug 06
    • 7:56 am

    SCIENCE.......SCIENCE..................SCIENCE...................... Fruit Bat More than half the victims' families support the 9/11 truth movment and are convinced the government had a hand in 9/11. I guess that screws your claim of us disrespecting the victims by seeking the truth. A bit like anti Israeli Jews, like Neturei Karta makes your claims of anti-semitic rabbits, such a gratuitous slander. Be warned Wiley, the Neo-Con's have just pumped lots of resources into shilling for 9/11 lies and attacking 9/11 truth movement. Natty is probably on overtime rates now.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 18 Aug 06
    • 8:28 am

    Obviously I'm bored or I wouldn't bother! Lower your blustery bulloney smoke screen, Rabbit. You know gooden well that the COLLEGE GRADUATES at Lamont don’t think that the impact spikes were cause by anything other than the jets. The geologists stated they could not explain the size or form of the spikes. You give us a single quote where they said otherwise, LIAR. Read it or deny it blindly, but others' will read it. See if I care. You know gooden well that Manning doesn’t have a blog, and that you’re just blowing smoke from down low. I shall prove …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 20 Aug 06
    • 10:54 am

    .............................Natalie.......................

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 20 Aug 06
    • 11:15 am

    By Douglas Herman 5-15-6 One of the most sacred beliefs about the four jumbo jets hijacked on September 11th, 2001, was that terrified passengers tried to communicate with those safe on the earth. The recent movie, "Flight 93," elevates this belief to a sacrament. In order to verify that cell phones would have functioned, a test would have had to be performed in 2001, from a Boeing 757-767, moving erratically through the sky, often at low elevation. To my recollection, none were ever performed by any researcher, and certainly no reporter in the mainstream media. Because NORAD fighter pilots never VISUALLY …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 20 Aug 06
    • 12:21 pm

    Batalie Not everybody seems to share your "faith" in the events which allegedly occurred on flight 93. I didn't think anybody seriously doubted Flight 93 was shot down at this stage. Are you one of those ones Batgirl? What a surprise.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 20 Aug 06
    • 12:07 pm

    Fruit Bat of the Faith based Myths of Magic Arabs.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 21 Aug 06
    • 2:27 am

    .....................................................Bat.................................................... If the plane was shot down it proves, once again that we have been told lies; it does not have to contribute to the inside job scenario, more importantly it does not dispute this scenario either. Quite organised lies, considerable efforts have gone to cover up the facts, and there was a time when this was considered a bad thing in the USA. It all still adds to the over all premise which is the only thing I am saying is the point of the 9/11 truth movement's existence.

    A full and independent investigation, needs to be carried out …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Aug 06
    • 12:44 am

    Of course it was known about all along. There are many different directions from which foreknowledge of 9/11, in more or less detail but essentially all the elements which are supposedly involved were known about and even actively facilitated. The story of Muhamed Atta linked to above is by itself a smoking gun for elements of the CIA conspiracy. Bush Junta Complicity in 9/11 Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, a longtime Army intelligence officer, publicly claimed on August 15, 2005 that the 9/11 committee investigation was a cover-up. "Shaffer said that his unit had contacted the FBI repeatedly during 2000 …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Aug 06
    • 12:55 am

    Rabbit knows of others who are reading down this thread and who have been for a while. I have not asked what they think of the Bat, but we may find out if they get this far. Visitors coming to share our trolls, how nice.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 22 Aug 06
    • 6:43 am

    This one just sent to Rabbit by Canada Dave More evidence of WTC's thought of as targets.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Aug 06
    • 12:34 am

    I see there are lots of playmates for the Fruit Bat Nat, and WTH is still treading water, averting his gaze from anything which would force him to rethink. Scorp still babbling on about a single photo, three whole long posts about it, and trying no doubt to attack the character of one person, as if this is going to make a scrap of difference. Molten Steel Scorp. Fall times the speed of gravity Scorpy. Seeing as how the truth is something which can only grow in influence, and it is, the rabbit keeps being in the position of having new …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Aug 06
    • 1:10 am

    Australia doesn't agree with Depleted Uranium Scorpse, we don't use it, and just because our scuz PM sucks George Bush's dick doesn't mean Australians agree with DU or America in general. Americans visiting Oz claim to be Canadian, that has long been a fact and now more so. Israel isn't very popular either, we've had a few dead Israeli's turn up lately. Maybe just a co-incidence, but I can assure you one needs to go a long way to find an Australian who supports USA or Israel, and I doubt you'll find anyone who suppots everything about either that you do. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Aug 06
    • 1:19 am

    Batgirl Prison planet is but the window onto the source, they merely list the Structural Engineer's qualifications. You have to click a link then listen to an mp3 file. Too bad for you Batgirl, the source is not prison planet, the engineer has been interviewed and his details all clear and above board. Unlike the sort of strawman unourced gobblydegok you rely on for whatever pitiful support your faith based fairy tale can garner. Since you are such an evil Bat, the rabbit will as usual assume you need the info spelt out, thus assuring your attempts to misrepresent the truth …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Aug 06
    • 2:14 am

    The Scorpse does not deserve a response to his huffing and his puffing, and if the rabbit fails to address any point the Scorpse may have made, it is due only to the fact I didn't read it. I can't waste time reading a bunch of his posts that begin once again with an attempt to make something out of that same long since irrelevant PHOTO. I trust anyone who does notice something of his the rabbit should have answered, that they will let the bunny know so he can hop to it. I do scan the odd paragraph or two, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Aug 06
    • 2:37 am

    Before mentioning the following Rabbit needs to clarify something. For a long time I have been convinced that Osama Bin Laden didn't have anything to do with 9/11, and now I am at least ready to accept that he did know about it, and had a hand in it. This has never been a main point of contention for the mainstream of the truth movement many of whom all along have pointed out that OBL was CIA asset from way back, and that al-Qaeda is infiltrated and manipulated by CIA / MOSSAD. This isn't in question but is common knowledge. I …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Aug 06
    • 4:48 am

    As far as the Structural Engineer is concerned, Natalie the great scientist is the best source for such an opinion of course. Well I'll just have to defer to your own great store of credibility Batgirl. If you say the guy is a wombat then the rabbit will take your word for it. Who wouldn't? How exactly does quoting the blurb about a book which was advertised on that site prove anything you foolish bat? I see you have highlighted a line, or two. Is that meant to be some sort of insinuation that the site is some sort of anti-semitic …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Aug 06
    • 5:35 am

    California is one signature away from having a bill which guarantees proper testing of Iraq veterans for low level DU exposure. The type which causes cancers, lung disease, tumours, teratological effects and diabetes among much more. So all those soldiers will now get tested for DU. Since you are so much a supporter of Dirty Bombs, of Waste Uranium Weapons, I'm sure it must please you that this testing is to be done. How much better a support for your case when testing shows the fears of rational people and scientists were unfounded after all. The testing should make it clear …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Aug 06
    • 5:43 am

    It is good that RedHorse and Wiley Witch are at peace. Both are the rabbit's friends, both can be feisty too, and I see there has been a small sharing of feisty words times past. These photos do make the WTC-7 collapse even more incredible, if that is possible. They as evidence are more important than the speculative spy stuff anyway, which is why a dark and devious soul like our fruit bat would prefer to concentrate on the unknowable. Anything Nat ignores while fanging madly away at some other minor matter, must have something going for it, is a …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 28 Aug 06
    • 9:31 pm

    WTH Rabbit is extremely busy just now, but just came across an interview which might be of value to you. Now Ray McGovern is one of the most respected US intelligence professionals to have become publically known. I cannot be sure, but it seems probable that you might have a modicum of respect for the opinions and experience of this man. I can only say that if you do not, then you are playing with a short deck. Dahr Jamail is a journalist of the utmost integrity but since this means he has been reporting matters which are not easily palatable …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 30 Aug 06
    • 12:24 pm

    The great nexus! The unification of all things. Knowledge is power. Scorpse, why would you take a small sentence out of context like that when my post already answered your pathetic grasp after some sort of small pyrric victory for what? What have you got that supports the official story? Nothing but spurious, mostly disproven claims! I still don't accept al-Qaeda or OBL were involved as anything more than patsies and that has always been what I have believed. I have pointed to the lack of evidence of OBL's involvement, the FBI have NOTHING! I have always said if …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 30 Aug 06
    • 12:49 pm

    Scorpling says: Rumsfeld and Howard Dean both think McGovern is an anti-Semitic crazy. Well I can see your point Scorp. Howard Dean and Donald Rumsfeld are certainly appropriate opinions to be sought about this........................ It happens that I know quite a bit about Ray McGovern's views and he isn't anti-semitic, not a bit of it. He is anti-zionist but all the best people are these days SCORPSE. It is even fashionable nowadays to be anti-zionist, and that isn't remotely akin to anti-semitism Scorpling. As for crazy, well a couple of arch Neo-con Zionists calling someone else crazy, that is an …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 30 Aug 06
    • 1:26 pm

    Twenty things we know about 9/11 five years later. It must be getting hot is shillsville Nat'n'Scorp. Bad ones bad ones, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you? When the truth comes bad ones no funs. ...............................^^...............................

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 01 Sep 06
    • 1:22 pm

    Frog Crime goes on. Certain subsections of the CIA do just that , and no more. Other CIA people are squeaky clean, know nothing about it, try to do their patriotic job, then resign early when they realise they are in the minority , out of the loop. The same is true of Police. I know a few honest men who were Cops for longer or shorter times but got out when they realised how crooke the whole gig was. One of them was a Police Superintendant. He spent more than twenty years working his way higher and higher, with …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 01 Sep 06
    • 1:46 pm

    WTH Ray McGovern and his analysis of the Soviet threat? You really need to advance your perception of my perception WTH, if you are capable. You are forever oversimplifying what the rabbit percieves. I don't know what you are talking about wih regards the "Soviet Threat". While I consider that the cold war was largely a put on, it was pumped and primed by the usual suspects, the Military Industrial complex, I have not claimed there was no such thing as a Soviet threat. Isn't it time you actually tackled something I have said instead of trying to presume your way …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 08 Sep 06
    • 10:05 pm

    How teribly funy it would be to see.

    Ahmadinejad says he is ready for debate with Bush at UN General Assembly IRNA | September 7 2006 Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeating his previous remark that "those who reject debate fear their nation's intellect and rationalism", emphasized here on Wednesday, "We are ready for a debate with the Americans at UN General Assembly." According to the Presidential Office Media Department, Ahmadinejad made the comments at Wednesday session of his cabinet, further reiterating, "The American side can even take part in the debate side by side with his advisors, and as a full …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 12:01 am

    So now Natalie resorts to complete fabrications and random spurious insults in preference to facing the very obviously ludicrous idea of a moron with no intellect or morals or clues having to face a highly qualified and intelligent Scholar with morals. Yes Natalie you are correct though, it does take a scholar to know one. Which is of course why you don't recognise the scholarship and science of such people. It doesn't work the other way though, a moron will rarely recognise another moron, which is why you clearly lack the ability to recognise what a farcical moron Bush is. Of …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 12:21 am

    The Bush junta desperation is becoming quite amusing. A new fake Bin Laden tape emerges and shoots the official story in the foot again. The 9/11 Commission: A Play on Nothing in Three Acts That's a lot of whistleblowers. Of course as you clowns often say, how could such aconspiracy have been kept quiet. The fact is simply that it can't be, which is why there are so many intelligence professionals speaking out. The greatest crime in American history is being uncovered, it cannot stay hidden even from the remaining minority who believe in Fairy tales. You can't …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 12:35 am

    I guess in your general ignorance old Scorpse that you know nothing of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. How exactly does Jones' religion bear on his Physics qualifications. Do you know anything about cold fusion Scorpse? Do you really think you are achieving anything attacking the man, while carefully avoiding ever mentioning the actual studies? Ignore the science and attack the man, that is just the living proof you are bereft of a case. Of course the government has been shying away from debating the issues, it is the leader in ad-hominem which is why brainless turds …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 12:45 am

    911 - A Modern Fairy Tale By Douglas Herman 9-6-6 Once upon a time in America, the land of opportunity, a group of foreign guys at a Florida strip club said: "Let's get Korans and boxcutters and hijack airplanes and crash them into skyscrapers." And so they did. They bought flight manuals and lapdances, Korans and double martinis. They took flight lessons and bad photos. But most of all they flew badly and partied and flunked flight school. "But how will we deceive NORAD," said one flunky? "And how will we get past airport security," asked another? "And how many millions …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 1:55 am

    Nat Since you've never even referred to Professor Jone's report, never even touched any of the details, you don't even know what his "theories" are, to keep on making loosely general comments about them, is the height of insecurity and dishonesty. When you can describe the actual mechanics of the theorires of controlled demolition, which are actually not even in doubt, let us know. As for the fact that after several months you are still making spurious general personal attacks, and resorting to fabricated arguments, whether satirical or not, that says only that you cannot challenge the actual science. The most …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 2:27 am

    You must not be so craven and foolish to begin trying to spin Steven Jones' religion to mean his scientific analysis is based upon faith. Since your own position relies entirely upon faith, it has NO evidence at all in its favour, to begin talking about faith and religion is just not fertile ground for you silly girl. The analysis by Jones of the collapses refers to proven Physics and historical facts, there is no mention of religion or faith in it at all, Batgirl. Your own statement that fires softened the steel structure and caused partial failure which somehow then …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 2:38 am

    Oh Batgirl. You do know that the 9/11 commission suppressed the real motive behind the actions of any Arabs involved don't you? Now why would such an important truth be withheld? Why would such morons like you and the lameduck POTUS still gabble on about Muslims who hate your freedoms when they actually know exactly why OBL does his deeds and that it is due to the US policy of supporting the Terrorist state of Israel's abuse of Palestinian rights and the support of corrupt and oppresive ME governments? This wouldn't be an attempt to mislead everybody would it? …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 2:45 am

    More desperate rearguard action on behalf of a failing fairy tale. For such a nonsensical story the case for controlled demo seems to convince a lot of people. I suppose Nat and Scorp think they are smarter than such people as Bill Christison, Ray McGovern, and this Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell. Now you will have to slime the seargent who is actually one of those troops and a hero as well, who you so falsely claim you support. Of course, straying from the official fairy tale does make him a traitor now I suppose? Everyone knows that questioning the …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 2:52 am

    Of course these days more than half the 9/11 victims families believe the government carried out 9/11.

    Involvement Of Republican Jewish Coalition & Israel In 911 By Leland Lehrman leland.lehrman@gmail.com 9-3-6 I'm Russian Jewish. Jewish enough to have been rounded up in WWII. Jews are victimized by our Jewish "leaders" the same as Americans are, or any other "identifiable group." Just check this link to see how the International Jewish Rescue Committee sold out the Jews of Czechoslovakia in WWII for the sake of Israel, according to the orthodox Jewish rabbi who founded Jews Against Zionism: http://www.nkusa.org/Historical_Documents/RakBedam.cfm Protocols of Zion …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 2:56 am

    Batgirl Your hero, the only person in the “truth” movement with even the slightest semblance of scientific credibility, has been rejected by the very institution who’s good name he depends on for that credibility. Dream on moron. Jones is but one of over seventy qualified Scholars and outside this group are many others. I have already included a structural engineer above who has recently come to realise the truth. There are others. Steve Jones is not my hero you silly girl. I have no heroes, and as it happens Jones is not even the most important spokesman for 9/11 truth in …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 4:29 am

    A Physics professor with Steven Jones' qualifications and reputation does not rely on a single institution for his credibility, he is entirely self made in this respect. You are as usual putting the horse before the cart. The institution gains it's credibility from the staff. In the case of BYU, in the event they were to censure Jones under the circumstances, it will be the end of their position as acredible institute of higher learning. If like you they actually dare to accuse the man of unscientific behaviour, without ever even referring to any detail of such, then they have become …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 5:25 am

    all I know is that anyone who would kill themselves and thousands of others over a land dispute is not worth the analytical energy. Like Israel for example which is committing genocide on the Palestinians to steal their land? I agree, they should be wiped off the face of the earth. The reference you just made to the latest silly OBL video just proved for the hundredth time you read nothing at all. I posted to an article about that about two hours ago, it is actually even more damning of the official fairy tale. It included a hijacker who …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 5:33 am

    YES AND MOSTLY NO On September 12, 2001, New York Fire Department's Chief Arson Investigator told reporters that "internal explosives" were used to bring down the World Trade Center towers. That assertion was never repeated. Instead, on August 2, 2002, NYFD spokesman Mike Logrin declared: "We're pretty sure there weren't bombs in the building." [All Fall Down: The Politics of Terror and Mass Persuasion] Van Romero also did an abrupt U-turn after receiving some phone calls regarding his earlier analysis. "Certainly the fire is what caused the building to fail," he told the Albuquerque newspaper 10 days after the attacks. HOT …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 5:51 am

    I'll tell you what, this crazy fairy tale you faithers hang onto sure does take a hell of a lot of censorship and gag orders to maintain even the thin veneer of integrity which it achieves. Strange that, I always thought that the truth was only supported by disclosure. If it was true, wouldn't you think that they'd want all the people involved to speak out? Why silence everyone who was involved? If the truth is what you claim why not let people speak out? I know! Those firefighters and police, and the intelligence personel, and the FAA and NORAD people …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 6:15 am

    Another good site of factual analysis. By the way I've just been reading the main article on that representative press site which attempts to debunk the controlled demolition scenario. It makes a number of spurious claims about what people supposedly said and it even has links when it refers to something like a policeman supposedly seeing signs of imminent collapse. If one follows the links they invariably don't give any actual quotes or details about who said what. It is a hollow hit piece. Its as hollow as you girly. It is actually quite a waste of time, the whole …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 7:20 am

    Look Batscat, your old friend Dave Lindorff, remember the one who brought us together? The Bushling shows his true colours. Stabs his ostensible allies in the back like the cringing coward he really is. This clown is sinking fast! What a contemptible loser he is. I'll bet when Bush is finally impeached/charged he is going to blubber like a sucky little baby too. The Decider will become the crybaby, and he'll be pointing the finger at everybody else too. "It was all Rummy's idea" and "Dick made me do it". (Clinton already used that one didn't he?) How about you …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 8:54 am

    Scorpse nothing you post is of any consequence. You didn't come up with any explanation of molten steel, you just tried hopelessly to deny it. You babble on about inanities and making a meal out of trusses when actually that was a carelessly chosen word by me, I couldn't remember what the steel sections ejected were, but just grabbed trusses for the hell of it. The ejected pieces were very large steel sections, that is what matters, not exactly what they were. By sifting through my words seeking some spelling error or minor ill chosen word, you demonstrate as always what …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 9:22 am

    Hi Horse, I shall look at that link tomorrow, thanks. Scorpse I see you let that little pancake word slip out, you need to drop that theory, it has been dropped by your masters in case you didn't realise. They gave up on their silly pancake theory awhile back. it didn't fly matey and that's why. It is no longer part of the latest version of the lies. They have not come up wih anything better yet either. As for the C4 which was apparently poured between the joists, I guess you are just a dunce again since I linked to …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 9:28 am

    Redhorse you have hit the nail on the head exactly why the Scoop's argument about the controlled demos and apparent overkill is so stupid. The C4 between the joists is a very interesting concept of course and I have resisted the idea for a while before coming to the conclusion that it does seem to have merit. In fact it answers one of the major questions asked by many of us, how and when did they manage to set up such a job? If it was three quarters done already, then too easy.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 9:42 am

    This is an analysis by Henry Makow, a fellow who has shown himself to be remarkably well informed more than once. This is an interesting consideration of the interconnectedness of 9/11 the phony War on Terra, as well as the Zionists and Illuminati overlords. Rabbit has for a while been expecting that the plan B for those responsible was to sacrifice Bush and co on the alter of 9/11 if it began to unravel, and Henry makes a coherant case for how, who and why. Sadly it just means that while things will seem to get better for a while, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 10:12 am

    Redhorse Damn Rabbit...is that a book...or you just ...had a little somethin to say to ol scoop-head scorpy.....? Yes Redhorse it does look like a book I suppose. Actually it was a quiet day here and I was bored. I was getting ready to call it a day when the Poop Scoop popped up like a little toadstool and annoyed me with his nasty arrogant little twittering nonsense. It is hard not to take a hefty swat at the Scorproach when I see him about, and I've ignored the creep for a while so owed him a good hiding. Wacking away …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 10:20 am

    Yo Redhorse, I too do think that some preparation for 9/11 may have begun back in 1993. The link is the security company, Marvin Bush and the Zionists at the top. Interestingly that security company Stratesec disbanded after 9/11 as if it's primary reason for existence was past. Dissolved after the attacks, Stratesec held the WTC security. GW Bush’s brother, Marvin Bush, and his cousin, Wirt Walker III were principals in Stratesec. Marvin Bush was reportedly in New York on 9/11. Six weeks before the September 11 attacks, control of the WTC was transferred by lease to private developer, Silverstein Properties. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 10:33 am

    I just went looking for the link to a whistleblowers story about this demolition quotation and it was quite interesting believe me. This is the url but I can see it has gone. http://redlineav.com/tsg.deposition.contd.2.html Hopefully I can find it has been cached somewhere for it was absolutely a very wicked little smoking gun. Someone who was accidentally included in a briefing and who was sworn to non-disclosure etc as usual, but who spoke out. It was obviously very close to the source, Silverstein himself and the more this develops it seems like Larry the profiteer was closer to the real organisers …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 10:45 am

    OK. I've got it. The internet is so anathema to the censors. Check it out that is one of my favorite smoking guns. The building was bid at $750,M, and cost$1.2B to build. It was worth about $4. to $5.B at its peak., but, would have cost nearly $15.B to un-build it in 2010 dollars, or as it neared its 1/2 'safe' life. Obviously, it was Imploded, because there was never going to be a 'break-even' point for either, the current, or future owners. BRIEF TECHNICAL SUMMARY, WHY: The structural integrity of the massive World Trade Center Towers was …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 11:01 am

    Yes he did make a pretty dollar out of it. Meanwhile all the WTC rescue workers have serious health problems and NO money is being used for their care or treatment. That is so evil! I believe Larry the profiteer actually claimed payouts for two separate terrorist attacks which inflated the profits heaps. Each plane was treated as a separate attack. It seems quite possible that Silverstein bought the WTCs with their demolition in mind. This has been the greatest crime in US history surely. It may well be the biggest case of fraud in history too.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 12:06 pm

    Scorpy needs a correction on this. The cores did not remain standing, that is rubbish. They failed first and even though some parts of them appeared to stand a moment longer, the falling radio mast proves the core went first in the North tower at least. You are reffering to speculative intepretations of stills from certain videos which suggested the cores stood longer but actually if you look at the same evidence you can't make this out at all. At 10:29 the entire top section of the North Tower was severed from its base and began to fall straight down. Video …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 11:33 am

    One last link to a wealth of irrefutable witness evidence that the WTC's were brought down by explosives. Show us what you are made of Scoopy, read this link and explain how you account for all those witnesses. If you can bring yourself to face these reports, which I doubt, I predict you will ignore them since there is once again no way you can debunk them all and no way you can deny them this time. As for Rabbit he is out of here for now, but if the Scorp can bring himself to stop fooling around with technical …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 09 Sep 06
    • 11:42 am

    Redhorse When I say ugly I mean ugly. Smelly, old, grim, rotting teeth not even a nice or honest person., and...oh hell you don't need to know more. As for personality well I agree. Those with less of the naturally decorative assets often make the best women. In fact if experience in this regard is anything to go on, Natty could be gorgeous. She certainly has nothing else going for her. Since I am but an ordinary looking rabbit, not beautiful myself and with a personality too intense for silly girls I'd say that physically beautiful women have been few and …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Sep 06
    • 3:57 am

    Xyptol You are right mate, but as Redhorse says, I am not aiming to change the minds of Nat or Scorp, in both cases I'm not convinced they even have minds in the first place. Rabbit just enjoys posting things which annoy Batgirl. Since the thing which most gets her goat is the truth, that works well enough. Scorp is a bit too arrogant and boring with his long winded dancing around minor issues while ignoring anything of substance to be entertaining. Though he would not comprehend it, I actually make an effort to reply to him out of a sort …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Sep 06
    • 4:31 am

    Alright Scorpy, you did do the cowardly thing I said you would and ignored the witnesses, again. That means I don't really feel obligated to bother with you, but I shall anyway, because I had managed to forget your response to the molten steel after all. Yes I did read that back then and I even replied then too I think. Knowing you as I do and the way in which you sort of reverse everything, projecting and all that, I am actually flattered that you would choose the following adjectives, thankyou. since all your contributions are unoriginal, derivative, grossly …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Sep 06
    • 4:52 am

    Scorpy are you not aware that it was I who first linked to the Brown site several pages since? The pictures on that site do not show an intact core standing after the outer perimeter falls! They show a portion of the core from the WTC-2 standing for several seconds after the outer collapse, but if they were intact all the way to their base, then why would they then fall since all the weight of the trusses was now gone from them? The elephant in the living room is that the site you are referring to is devoted to showing …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Sep 06
    • 5:15 am

    I repeat that the cores are not shown standing intact, nor is the spire you mentioned as being on the North tower on the North tower. It and the portion of standing core are both on the WTC-2. The other tower is not mentioned on that site. Read the following, it is also from Algoxy as you called it.

    TOWER DEMOLITION SEQUENCE: If you remember the North Tower roof falling in first showing a rectangular shape in the roofing material as the top with the antennae on it tilted with the antenna dropping. That was the core structure dropping from charges …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Sep 06
    • 6:13 am

    You are sort of logical in your attempt to explain the molten steel, but your explanation is what I'd call junk science. No offence intended. The amount of Thermate involved would have melted even more of the steel and the combined mass would have been the molten metal observed. It is wrong to say it would have re-solidified quickly. Your own mention of the insulation effect of the concrete is the answer. It is also what I said earlier when mentioning why the metal stayed molten for so long, as I recall that was my answer to you the first time …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Sep 06
    • 6:55 am

    Now Scorp what about the witnesses? I am actually holding out some hope that if I can get you to stop being so resentful of the nasty old rabbit, you just might actually open your mind to things, since you are obviously someone who prefers to have a genuine understanding of things rather than just the blind faith which is all Batgirl knows. Nobody knows it all and none of us knew any of it when it first happened. Some of us have however spent the last five years trying to find out everything there is to know about 9/11, and …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Sep 06
    • 7:54 am

    By the way, you know why the pancaking theory has been dropped and is no longer being sold? It was based upon the fact that FEMA who came up with that silly theory, used a fake structural plan which has been proven since. The actual structure did not allow the pancake theory to work at all. Deception on deception on deception. Of course they don't actually have a new theory to replace the pancake theory but that doesn't stop plenty of ill informed folk from still spouting off about it as if it had merit.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Sep 06
    • 8:11 am

    Hi Horse. You are right of course. See how the same fuckwits blame the anti-war movement for the defeat in Vietnam. According to them it was due to the anti-war crowd that the USA lost. It supposely had nothing to do with the fact that the Vietcong finally overran Saigon. I wonder how many more bombs and troops could have been thrown at Vietnam if nobody was protesting? Of course the same thing is being said about Iraq, when they admit the USA is losing in Iraq anyway. Admittedly many clowns still tell themselves the USA is going forward in Iraq. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 10 Sep 06
    • 8:15 am

    Of course completely lost upon the timber milling morons was the fact that all greenies like me wanted was for the timber industry to be run sustainably. We never advocated complete shutdown. That was simply the result of not doing it sustainably.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Sep 06
    • 7:28 am

    Natalie that quote you posted does not change a thing and it is not complete, it is actually altered from he original. You are a blatant liar and of no consequence to this or any discussion. The part about the kerosene was not left out you bloody clown, it is on the site which we are speaking about. Jesus girl you are a fuckwit! How about the destroyed machine shop and the crumpled fire door you stupid bitch? Scorpy There is substantially more than a Janitor saying there were explosions in the basements. There are two janitors, and another fourteen others …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Sep 06
    • 8:38 am

    Actually the chemistry of Calcium Sulphate decomposition is very complex and it has been experimented on with many methods and catalysts etc over time. Since it is an abundant naturally occurring compound and Sulphur is a valued product, many methods have been patented. You can keep on looking for things which might improve your chances of getting some free sulphur under the WTC conditions, Carbon monoxide has an effect for example but I can't recall which way it pushes the reaction. The main thing you need to recognise my junk scientist Scorpy is that the thermal decomposition of Gypsum occurs at …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Sep 06
    • 8:42 am

    Does it make sense to the Scorpy that THIS suddenly ended up looking like THIS? Scorpy, have a good look at this picture and tell me you don't believe in explosives. This is just the start of the collapse Scorp, it hasn't even gathered any momentum. Come on Scorpse, have a good look at that picture. Consider the scale and relate those pieces of debris which are being shot horizontally outward, hundreds of feet, before the building has had a chance to gain any momentum. I want you to look at that picture and say no explosives are …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Sep 06
    • 9:42 am

    Something Scorp said earlier. It occurs to me that, given hot steel in a confined space with copious quantities of powdered CaSO4, perhaps the mixture would act similar to thermite, with calcium taking the place of aluminum. Ca and Al are both non-ferrous metals, but they belong to different groups on the Periodic Table. I am not chemist enough to know if calcium is a viable substitute for aluminum in a thermite-type reaction. If this observation is not correct, we are left with hot steel, sulfur, and oxygen to support the ongoing oven under the remains of the WTC Towers. …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Sep 06
    • 10:27 am

    WITNESSES to Explosions. These are all articles about different witnesses, which refer to explosions. http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/02/911-rescuer-saw-explosions-inside-wtc.html http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/veliz-bombs.htm http://911review.com/coverup/oralhistories.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it0VpgWEl90&mode=related&search= http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20050716.htm http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3259 http://www.aldeilis.net/aldeilis/content/view/189/107/ A 300 ton steel beam which was ejected 390 feet from the WTC How do you explain that one my little faith brigaders? That is more than twice the weight of the bloody planes.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Sep 06
    • 10:32 am

    Here is a "small" selection of statements by emergency workers all of which had been suppressed by the government until late 2005.

    Rich Banaciski -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22] ... and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions. Brian Becker -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 28] The collapse hadn't begun, but it was not a fire any more up there. It was like -- it was like that -- like smoke explosion on a …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 11 Sep 06
    • 10:58 am

    So much busy rabbiting, but now it is time to go again. Just because I know that Natalie loves the Israeli monsters so much, here is a little gift. Look at these IDF elite troops. PLEASE oh please read it all, and look at the pictures Batgirl, your heroes are all here and so brave. My how brave and heroic they are. The Golanis, the supposed elite troops. I can certainly see why YOU would think so highly of them. I'll bet you'd love to do a Monica on them all. No wonder too, it's obvious what fine upstanding men …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Sep 06
    • 4:18 am

    Scorp I don't actually have to be consistent in my views of how exactly the collapse occurred and as usual you are reading what you like into my words. Due to the extent of the coverup and witholding of evidence we can only speculate on the exact format. It was up to the official report to explain and it didn't. Which is why the numbers who now believe an inside job have continued to increase with every day since. All I have to do is prove that the official story is bullshit which is well and truly long since done. You …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Sep 06
    • 4:39 am

    Joe I actually did just trip across the new stuff on Journal of 9/11 studies this morning but am not finished reading it. I noticed the update while gathering the url to send to that TV station I just mentioned. I've seen more and more honest articles in the MSM, dealing with the 9/11 truth movement these past few days. Instead of the old smoke and mirrors and strawman and ad-hominem atacks so favoured by the two morons we have here dancing the dance of deceit, the MSM is finally waking up that this isn't going away and that the result …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Sep 06
    • 4:47 am

    Redhorse and Joe I see you are both surprised that Batgirl would link to something which shoots off her feet. Luckily she is able to grow them back ready for the next foot shot, for she has effectively shot off more feet than a centipede owns. The reason she posts self destructive things like that is that she actually doesn't read them at all. She has often shown she doesn't read properly before using a source. Like Scorpy she is only trying to make some isolated point and treats everything as if it's in a vaccum, not realising that there is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Sep 06
    • 5:31 am

    SCORPLING It behoves me to point out you have not come up with any explanation for the Molten steel but you are now in a jam because you have finally admitted it was there. The junk science you came up with has been debunked thoroughly unless you are still trying to imagine naturally occurring Thermate reactions. The fact that you do not have even the most basic comprehension of what is Thermite and that you can kid yourself about Kinetic energy when it has been measured and found wanting for any of the things you would like to attribute to it, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Sep 06
    • 6:22 am

    The entire official story is beyond the laws of physics. Even without the formulas, common sense would tell one that 3 buildings, two hit by different planes at different spots, and one not hit by anything, would NOT ALL COLLAPSE IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY: STRAIGHT DOWN. More things you are conveniently ignoring. The fact that Silverstein took over the leases of the WTC only just before 9/11 and then overinsured them to the max, especially for terrorist attacks. He made a maasive profit, way more than the original investment. The fact that the buildings were actually scheduled for destruction by …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Sep 06
    • 6:58 am

    Batgirl One more for the Bat who tried to selectively alter the testimony of Mike Pecoraro, while deceitfully claiming I had done so. What you conveniently left out was the next bit. . The two decided to ascend the stairs to the C level, to a small machine shop where Vito Deleo and David Williams were supposed to be working. When the two arrived at the C level, they found the machine shop gone. "There was nothing there but rubble, "Mike said. "We're talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press ? gone!" The two began yelling for their co-workers, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 12 Sep 06
    • 9:04 am

    Excited is the rabbit.............^^.............. The rabbit is back for a couple of new developments have arisen. The following was just sent to me by someone who I'm sure would want me to pass on his "regards" to the Bat. This is a very interesting look at girders weighing 4 tons found more than 600 feet from the WTCs. It is video and it is pretty conclusive. It is such fun dropping such BRICKS onto the head of the cockroaches, Scorpy and Batgirl. The truth is going mainstream and it is gaining traction even faster than I could have predicted …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Sep 06
    • 12:02 pm

    Honestly Joe, you are a joy to watch. Natalie you are being slaughtered all over again. Like Monty Python's Black Knight she is still going to kick your but,......... well now she'll bite your toes off anyway. This is why we call her the undead, and Scoopy is hiding in a ditch until the worst has blown over. If in doubt go back to some earlier irrelevancy, or maybe some semantics or spelling error can be wangled for a bit of space. Very good stuff on the times and timings. Your patience is a fine thing, and produces results of a …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Sep 06
    • 12:04 pm

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Sep 06
    • 12:27 pm

    It is sickening David and wait till you've had to deal with people who want to make excuses for it all. The victims are still crying out for justice (not to mention their families) and some people just want to say, "nothing to see here folks, move along".

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 14 Sep 06
    • 12:32 pm

    You actually have the thread on ping back Batgirl. I can't believe it! You are actually having notifications sent to your mailbox, which comes up immediately on your screen whenever someone posts here. My god you are a crackpot and determined shill. ha ha. I'd often wondered about it. While we've managed both to post out of the blue simultaneously, even after a few days absence more than once in the past, it occurs to me the usual pattern is this. You pop up withing minutes of any others except while you are skulking out of site while the heat on …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 15 Sep 06
    • 10:19 am

    Joe if you go to this site you can upload photos via links. It's real simple. http://www.thumbsnap.com The missing photgraphic proof of Osama Bin Laden's involvment.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 16 Sep 06
    • 3:52 am

    What a pair of chicken littles. It was just an acorn little dears, and a homegrown one at that. $7,000,000 for a presidential blowjob. $600,000 for the truth about 9/11. Only in america. Your fantastical ranting about Iran and Syria is hilarious. That's quite an imagination you have Scoop. No wonder you clowns can't focus on reality you have so much fiction and paranoia running around those few rusty synapses you call a mind.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Sep 06
    • 12:20 am

    Hilarious! Americans are being "protected" from unpleasant truths being reported in the media. People in most countries expect news of the world from Newsweek. Of course real news, won't keep you all growing happily under the auspices of the worst administration in history, will it my little mushrooms? By the way Nat. There are numerous experts in all manner of relevant fields in the 9/11 truth movement, literally hundreds. Neither they nor I nor Joe, are moved by the denial of a moron like you. They don't get their expertise from you dear. The list of such people is still …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Sep 06
    • 12:49 am

    An admitted recent convert to the truth, has collated the following list of Patriots who support the truth. Where is the list of intelligence, government and military professionals who support the lie? Never forgetting that this article started on the back of a Poll which showed 42% support for the truth. That alone should give a Bat a hint as to what Teri Allen actually was doing by writing the silly piece she wrote. Read her other articles, Bat, you've been conned! Poll showing that any claims of a FRINGE are farcical. Poll co-author, W. David Kubiak concurs, …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Sep 06
    • 11:02 pm

    As expected Batgirl has nothing. Figures. By the way Batgirl, you are a broken record on that structural engineer issue. More than a dozen have been refferred to since his thread began, perhaps you would be advised to ocasionally read things after all. You are falsely claiming we have none. In fact you do not have any sort of engineers or profesionals in any field outside of government employees, hence totally unreliable. Continually calling for some new sort of fact or spokesman, like Old King Cole, isn't wining you any ground. In fact as the following article shows, the tide is …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Sep 06
    • 11:24 pm

    Just some of the facts are: widespread cancer inthe responders, molten steel, melted cars, steel beams hurled hundreds of feet, aerosolized metals, vaporized steel witnessed and video, aerosolized and pulverized concrete, elevated tritium levels, vanishing (vaporized) victims, only sliver fragments of victims on roof tops, EMP - Electro Magnetic Pulse effects on communications, hundreds of eyewitness testimony of ancillary explosions by heroic rescuers and victims, massive dispersal of debris, demolition expert states …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Sep 06
    • 11:37 pm

    Joe, you have buried the Bat in facts, killed her fairy tale dead. Still she flaps about, mad as a wasp stung dog, trying to spin and twist and create smokescreens. She really does deserve a single convert, just for here efforts. I wish we could find someone who would be convinced by anything she posts, but sadly I don't think there are any morons left who don't already believe the official fairy tale. Unfortunately for her, many of them will be slipping away as the numbers who know the truth has reached critical mass. There are that large group of …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 26 Sep 06
    • 11:48 pm

    In a failed demolition, a 20 story concrete building, Zip Feed Mill in South Dakota, of significantly weaker construction than the WTC buildings, takes a 4 story dive while the top 16 floors remain intact. Now where might the Scorpling be? Since he is so sure he has everybody convinced he knows something about engineering (don't burst his bubble, as if!), I wonder if he is capable of appreciating the significance of this one. It actually makes the suggestion that the weight of the upper stories was able to collapse the lower ones a total farce. Any half alert person …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Oct 06
    • 1:29 am

    Actually Nataliar Rabbit has better things to do than converse around and round the mulbery bush with ignoranuses like thyself. However, since the latest news is that the latest Zogby Poll puts the 9/11 faith brigade at less than 16% support in the United States of Avarice and those who now believe the US regime is hiding the truth at 84%, I just thought it would be worth popping by to taunt you with the news. You now speak for a mere 16% of the US population. I did tell you your day of riding high on your ship of …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Oct 06
    • 1:43 am

    At least Scorpy is probably thinking he has a way out with his Chinese wife and all, but don't be too sure Scorpy that you won't end up on a farm working the fields all the same. This is what you are facing in a worst case scenario. So all you can hope is that the current lunatics in office will not invite a worst case scenario with all the usual hubris and blind stupidity for which they are known. That seems like a long shot. They are so busy chasing young boys around the white house that anything so …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Oct 06
    • 4:55 am

    Wow, Batgirl you haven't lost your talent for ignoring the obvious or spinning that which cannot be spun. Moron.

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 17 Oct 06
    • 6:33 am

    The hilarious Batgirl still does like to say silly things. Not a single institute of Structural, Civil, Fire and Safety or Demolition Engineers on the planet agree with the official fairy tale. Not a single institute of Architects on the planet agree with the official fairy tale. Not a single institute of Engineers in any field on the planet agree with the official fairy tale. Those which are paid for by the discredited criminal regime, don't count of course. However many individuals in all those fields have expressed their support for the obvious FACT of controlled demolition. These people are coming …

    Posted to The 9/11 Faith Movement
    • 27 Jun 06
    • 1:11 am

    It seems Redhorse has got your number Wolf. Rabbit has been there, done that with Wolf and knows well what is coming. Personally though I agree with Major Major more or less. It is the intent of the words usage which matters. It is possible to say such disparaging words in converstaion without they be used disparagingly. Not that it is likely they have much use outside of describing a racist or biggoted statement by another. This is also why Lesbians can reclaim the word Dyke, and American Negroes can claim the word Nigger. But for any of us non Lesbians …

    Posted to Sticks & Stones and Dykes
    • 27 Jun 06
    • 11:56 am

    Much as the desire to wack Wolf rides high, I used the word in illustration and like I said, the intent is all that counts. Seriously Redhorse, we mustn't get hysterical. Shall we revert to saying "he who shall not be named"? Perhaps I should have said the "name which cannot be used"? Make no mistake, the "word which cannot be used" was used with intent. It is not mystical. It is not a word of power. It is a word which was/is used to disparage, with the intent of disparaging it is as offensive as can be, used carelessly even, …

    Posted to Sticks & Stones and Dykes
    • 27 Jun 06
    • 12:07 pm

    In all fairness your or anyone's preferred term should be a matter of personal choice, the intent is what counts. Rabbit is a Celtic Australian. A whitey. What is wrong with identifying a race by origins? African American is OK, if Rabbit is to be called British Australian or Scottish Australian. Its the intent Redhorse or we are just complicating the issue and diluting the argument of bigotry by making even harmless discussion form for action. When any discussion on bigotry ends up questioning the terminology I an ex Budhist, Gnostic, Anarcho-socialist rabbit, with strong connections to the land uses, then …

    Posted to Sticks & Stones and Dykes
    • 28 Jun 06
    • 1:06 am

    All's well that ends well. Rabbit was baiting slightly with the "deliberate" use of a word of negative vibrational energy. Trying to show one can neutralise the negative vibes of even such an atrocious word, but for me only possible by context. There is a truth which Wolf is himself floundering towards. So far he is only drawing near to the concept with his lips, maybe his mind has re-arranged itself around the idea too, but his heart is far from there. It's true as I say of Wolf that he is a bigot, a racist bigot also. But it is …

    Posted to Sticks & Stones and Dykes
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 12:09 am

    Yes, Lesbians. That is why Rabbit threw in the comment at the end of last post. Feeling they were being forgotten a bit. Now on words. Gay is not my favorite way to refer to people of alternate sexuality. What do we do with the derivative Gaily? Rabbit wishes to be gay sometime, without being attracted to men. Can a homosexual man be unhappy and still Gay? I think it would have been similarly empowering for homosexual men to have followed in their sisters' footsteps and claimed Poof for their own. Appropriating a harmless previously engaged word, for one's own group …

    Posted to Sticks & Stones and Dykes
    • 30 Jun 06
    • 12:00 am

    It occurs to me to wonder from whence cometh this usage of Gay? The first thing which springs to mind is Oscar Wilde. I wonder if the answer is easily found on the web. We shall see. Of course any knowledgeable Gay people are welcome to contribute if you know the answer. Rabbit is wondering about it for purely anthropological reasons.

    Posted to Sticks & Stones and Dykes
    • 24 Jun 06
    • 7:15 am

    Redhorse Don't give up, you are doing fine, and re-enforcements are closer than you think. You are stuck in a cave full of trolls, and morons. WTH is often seeming reasonable, so don't be so surprised, he and even Wolf can be sensible enough so long as their core beliefs are not being challenged at which time the hysteria takes over. Cognitive Dissonance is still a amjor problem for them both. Tiny one, is a broken troll and not to be taken seriously. She has been going around in silly circles for a while and her ability to even communicate is …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 24 Jun 06
    • 7:31 am

    OregonRusalka Thanks for the concise and precise message about Russian communism and Marx. It has been getting the rabbits goat lately listening to idiots gabbling on about communism and socialism and Marx etc as if they have a clue. Also the idiotic prognostications about Islam which similar types of idiots engage is getting tired. What is missing often is a simple and straight forward refutation to them. Something so simple they cannot slither around it. Thanks. The debate about Kennedy is a silly red herring, why does anyone want to bother with it? He wasn't president, and there is a big …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 24 Jun 06
    • 7:52 am

    Of course as someone said early on, Redhorse I think, the whole thing is a dog and pony show. The elite has their candidate in both camps as they did with Kerry and Bush. Personally Rabbit expects they are setting the stage for a woman, and that woman is probably going to be the Clinton Bitch. It is hard not to feel contempt for anyone who actually thinks there is anything significant to be argued between Democratic and Republican deck chairs. The titanic is still committed to the same course. Gnade There is another defense of the electoral college which occurs …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 25 Jun 06
    • 6:39 am

    Natalie Hello Darling. It is quite a novelty to see you out of the cave. This rabbit would never dream of suggesting that Iran is perfect, you know by now that nuance is the order of the day, with rabbits. It is true that a normal week of political repression, lack of security and freedom to protest together with secret detentions, government eavesdropping and religious fundamentalism in Iran is not much different than a similar week in the USA. The point I was making was that on the wider scene, the international scene, Iran had offerred the concessions and more which …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 25 Jun 06
    • 6:55 am

    Natty you actually said that the Bushling junta hasn't arrested any women protesters did you not? Natty have you heard of Cindy Sheehan? Just to name a single one of many women protesters who has been arrested. Also women protesters and men too, who put up anti bush stickers or protest especially outside of the free speech zones or protest zones or whatever the Newspeak term is for what you now have in place of freedom of speech. Natalie you silly girl, with 5% of the world's poulation the USA has 23% of the worlds prison population. Does that register? Of …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 26 Jun 06
    • 1:00 am

    Redhorse That is interesting. Rabbit too once thought Scorp was Karl Rove. He does these Bushisms all independent of the great leader himself. One of the first things Scorpy told us was that President Bush has said that "the only way to resist and fight terrorism, is to fight and resist terrorism." Hello Scorpy I see you are searching for a corner of your mouth into which you can insert your foot. This is good, keep it up, Rabbit will let you know when you have accomplished that mission. The following is good but not it of course: Who ever heard …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 26 Jun 06
    • 11:08 pm

    WTH You are losing the plot a bit old friend. This is sad because you have been doing so well up till now. Stay calm. America is what she is become. Take it slowly, count ten every time a new shock enters your awareness, and try to accomodate all facts, no matter how much you do or don't like what they might imply. You can do it. Frog clearly thinks you have promise, and nobody can deny you are substantially better mentally equipped than Nat, Scorp, Jay or Tina. They are stuck with themselves but given a bit of time, and …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 27 Jun 06
    • 12:28 am

    Hi Redhorse I nearly wrote of Wolf in my last post about how Wolf with his racial bigotry was more likely to be a guard actually. Actually a couple of us know who Wolf is, he has been a regular internet contributor here and there and Racism is his main gig. He has a sense of humour though. The shadow of a bat is seen. Hello Natalie who is about to post. Cooking eggs with cell phones

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 27 Jun 06
    • 3:11 am

    Hooray for Natalie! Vive la Revolucion...Natty. Communism on a small scale sounds like fun. No thanks though, it sounds too regimented to this hopper. Anarcho Socialism is the way to go. Enough for everybody. No kings, rulers, presidents or politicians. No parades, hammers or sickles either unless people want parades, hammers and sickles for their own use. Most of all no flag humping.

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 27 Jun 06
    • 12:25 pm

    Hello Scorpy, back from enlisting in the brave crusade are we? When are you off to the ME to fight terrorists? Incredible how the Scorp just reduces all the foregoing to nonsense with one well thought out, ad-hominem and articulate post. Moonbattery! We are but Moonbats rehashing something, that is the devastatingly obvious truth. How could we not have seen it dear fellow leftist Moonbats? How could we have been so foolish as to keep on gratifying ourselves and indulging in crude insults, when all along the Scorpy had our number. Sure as cheese on the end of Scorpy's knees, we …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 27 Jun 06
    • 12:45 pm

    WTH Rabbit says, “Though the rabbit dares to answer on behalf of Sally, it seems from reading her posts that she is well equipped to understand far more than you give her credit for.” This is where Rabbit and I always lose the discussion — he is willing to take as fact what he likes as here where he says, “....she is well equipped to understand far more than you give her credit for.” Based on what? Was she there? Did she see and hear first hand what went on? No WTH the rabbit gathers from the sensible and logical …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 1:31 am

    Natalie the scentific analysis of steel from the columns has shown the traces of explosives, Thermate. Apart from all the scentific analysis of photo evidence and fall rates etc, the proof has now been made by laboratory analysis of the steel. As for waiting for proof Natty the only thing you need to change your mind, is a new program from your masters. Proof, like facts evidence, reason or logic have no bearing on your ideas. Photographic "proof" for anyone who can see. Scientific analysis proves incendiaries used. Jones says that, "using advanced techniques we're finding out what's in …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 1:51 am

    WTH you made such a brave effort at wit in your first post, I almost feel like letting you keep your sense of victory. No intuition needed WTH just simple reading of the facts posted by Sally, which being against the comfort zone of the average dittohead, shows she has courage. The mere fact of recognising an unpleasant truth is enough to tell something about a person, there is nothing mystical to it. Just as the format and content of your posts tell us you are a deluded dittohead in denial, Sally's say she is an alert, attentive and brave person. …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 2:39 am

    Those who must labour under the label of Dittohead, should not take offence at the word. We know you cannot help yourselves, for ditto is your motto and your creed. That is what we are here for. We who have magaged to find out the truth as much as possible, and base our ideas, evolving though they may be, upon such truth, are freely offerring our time and wisdom for your edification. You must remember that since you are ditoheads, we already know most of what you believe, and from lonmg experience we can know why you believe these things. Just …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 3:20 am

    Hi Frog More to Scorpy's twitsong about Venezuala. Hugo Chavez was elected by a convincing margin in elections which passed the test of honesty, in an electoral turnout which was historical, in direct contrast to the Bushling. Venezualan Election checked out. Now if the Scorpy wants to talk about exit polls we shall be happy to do so. However if we are to take the Venezualan exit polls seriously then we must be just as accepting of the relevance of the US election exit polls. Somehow I doubt the Scorpy will want to do that. Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 5:12 am

    ZEN FOR THOSE WHO TAKE LIFE TOO SERIOUSLY 1. Save The Whales. Collect the Whole Set. 2. A Day Without Sunshine is Like, Night. 3. On The Other Hand, You Have Different Fingers.. 4. I Just Got Lost In Thought. It Wasn't Familiar Territory. 5. 42.7% Of All Statistics Are Made Up On The Spot. 6. Light Travels Faster Than Sound, Which Is Why Some People Appear Bright Until You Hear Them Speak. 7. I Feel Like I'm Diagonally Parked In A Parallel Universe. 8. Honk If You Love Peace And Quiet. 9. Remember, Half The People You Know Are Below …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 8:44 am

    Natty your silly RW hit piece is pure GOP fantasy, When the US backed coup was attempted the people's power is what took back the preisdency for their man, Chavez. Also the proof is in the pudding sweet girl. Chavez is actually doing something humane and useful for his people and the world, unlike the little hitlerite in the White house. He has also survived numerous referenda, I wonder how the Bushling would fare in a fair referendum? With 25% support I'd say he'd be fucked wouldn't you Natty? The simple fact is Natty, Chavez won, and despite the massive resources …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 9:22 am

    WTH Too quick to accept bad news if it is against someone disliked. That's rubbish old fella. Rabbit and others too have been circumspect about many things, it is you who cannot ever acept anything which disagrees with your preconcieved delusions. It is so comical watching the elengths to which you are prepared to distort your self in order to deny some news which strikes discord in your delusions. An example might be the Jesse Helms fake video. People like Rabbit and most of the anti-war crowd failed to be fooled by what was probably a Neocon effort to head …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 9:32 am

    Frog EVERYBODY KNOWS CHAVEZ STEALS INCUBATORS, AND THROWS THE BABES ON THE FLOOR So why do you keep fighting against the TRUTH, Mister Rabbit ? Ah Frog that is the question. It is due to the rabbit's hatred of the freedoms and way of life of these Americans, his desire to see Muslims rule the world and because the rabbit is clearly some sort of communist. Actually I'm sure Chavez is planning to invade the USA with all those AK's he so wisely bought recently. He is such an evil avaricious dictator after all. Obviously as deadly a threat as …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 10:40 pm

    Scorpy, Rense is not a source as such, you poor dim troll. They mostly report or link to articles from various other mostly MSM media sources. The strawman twerps like you and Natalie try to atack in assuming you can discredit Rense is farcical, such a rense doesn't exist. In fact you silly little man, a number of Mainstream newspapers these days go direct to Rense.com as a shortcut to the news of the day. Attacking Rense therefore as a source is the surest way to demonstrate your own complete ignorance. Both Rense and Prison Planet have a wider readership than …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jun 06
    • 11:11 pm

    All this conveniently distracts from the point of this article and that is that the presidential elections in 2000 and 2004, were stolen. Not that it matters in some ways because the Kerry would have been an elitist scumbag too, and no doubt as much in thrall to the corporate interests which are raping and ruining the USA. It's your shitty country Scorpy, you just gobble down all the filth, lies and delusions which the masters feed you full of. Just keep swallowing and don't stop, you and Nat can swallow together, and regurgitate your dittohead propaganda for each other's pleasure. …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 02 Jul 06
    • 6:25 am

    Scorpy, you dear funny troll, your line about the rabbit panicking has been used before with similar pointlessness. Word for word you have posted that obviously well thought out little bit of tripe, before. Having ocasionally indulged in a bit of historical show and tell with the wacky foot gobbling antics of the old Scoop, this rabbit is feeling more and more tempted of an updated version, of: Scorp, This Is Your Life, on ITT As has before been pointed out to the Scorpy Worpy, this rabbit has not got no need to panic. Since it is you who is by …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 02 Jul 06
    • 6:30 am

    How amusing is it when someone like Natty says something like this? these guys are fascinating, really. Why do they promote all this nonsense? I can only guess that it's some combination of hating Bush and/or the war in Iraq, Natty that is so dumb! It just sounds so utterly foolish, so painfully stupid that Rabbit can imagine all the other sensible people must be chuckling like he himself is now doing. Didn't you know that it comes down to us hating Bush, hating the war in Iraq, and OBVIOUSLY, we are all communists? This about says it. Knock the …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 02 Jul 06
    • 7:20 am

    Winston Churchill

    "If you will not fight for the right," he once growled, "when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 02 Jul 06
    • 8:38 am

    Whattheheck, it is with a heavy heart that your friend the rabbit mentions the following. Particularly because you seem to have gained some small measure of something by questioning the 750 presidential signing statements. That you would fall victim to transparent attempts by the RW wackjob sites to spin yet another disturbing bit of news about their fuehrer, is of no surprise to me, but that Redhorse and Frog would drop the ball on such a simple thing to check is surprising. I was not aware there was any doubt about what the facts were, we all have search engines have …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 02 Jul 06
    • 9:59 am

    Rabbit just back from the two most wretchedly cold nights camping in his life. Scout camp in the forest near here, young son forgot his sleeping bag so the father rabbit had to sacrifice his. The frozenness of two nights was bad. No sleep for the rabbit who just lay inside his canvas swag, with nothing but a jacket and long jeans to stay alive. Rabbit had a couple of Jack Daniels' by the campfire before retiring the second night, but they didn't help. Haig Shmaig, I'd have settled for Straw Rum if it came with a warm sleeping bag or …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 02 Jul 06
    • 11:05 am

    Yo Redhorse...........and Frogling... Having read in Rense several days, nay a week since of these heinous statements of the signing, the rabbit knew since no retractions or alterations has come to light since, the story was likely on the mark. Trust our proven news sources, since they are self regulating, in a way which should belong to the media in general. Jones and Rense conform to a standard of truthfullness in reporting which means if something theyr eport turns out to be wrong the retraction/corrction soon follows. Search Engine Google or Altavista is good enough to soon sort out the truth …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 02 Jul 06
    • 9:01 pm

    Naty your shilling debunk site is too hollow for words. They are not even debunking the right pictures. The claims about thermite cutting sideways is a complete red herring and relying on dummies like you and Scorpy who need something to counter all the real analysis out there. Thermite deflagrates at such a high temperature it softens the steel enough for the cutting charges to slice easily. The effect is quite capable of going sideways, the metal in the reaction is in contact with the steel and conducts heat well. The explosives demolition of skyscrapers does happen, and basically your stupid …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 02 Jul 06
    • 9:29 pm

    Evidence of explosives in twin towers.

    The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed.
    Poor old Shill Bat, she has never ever been able to win a single point, not a single issue has she been right about. So Sad for the Bat. Again …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 02 Jul 06
    • 10:02 pm

    Back on topic. Computer programmer Clinton Curtis testified at the December 13th, 2004 Congressional hearing in Columbus, Ohio naming Republican Congressman Tom Feeney as the person who hired him to prepare vote-rigging software. The question boys and girls is this: How many bits of evidence like disenfranchised democratic voters, massively irregular exit polls and whistle blowers like Curtis, does it take to make the case the elections were stolen? How many times does evidence of fraud need to be found before it's called proof?

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 03 Jul 06
    • 2:25 am

    Pair of idiots! Scorpy the stupidity of this statement is patent. This certainly is a more credible scenario than the vast left-wind conspiracy theories. The explanation by controlled demolitions is supported by ALL of the above mentioned evidence and the controlled demolition is not only theoretically the only way three skyscrapers could fall into their own footprints, it is also Historically the only way it has ever occurred. To say that a theory which is admitted even by it's own authors as being highly improbable, is more credible than something which is theoretically possible, historically proven and witnessed by …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 03 Jul 06
    • 2:52 am

    I wonder just how Rabbit would react to someone accusing him of murder If I was guilty of the murder I guess I'd have to resort to ad-hominem attacks, smoke and mirrors and lying to try and cover the fact, just like the Junta is doing. If I was rich enough I might even employ shills like you to help cloud the waters, and keep on repeating the lies as if repetition alone will achieve something, it would be worth a try anyway if I had the money. I would certainly be witholding and hiding or destroying all the evidence linking …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 03 Jul 06
    • 3:17 am

    Funny old Scorpy, you are still ignoring the scientific analysis Jones refers to. Still since it isn't publically released yet you can pretend it doesn't exist. Even if the photo wasn't actually of a charge cut column, it would not disprove the demolition theory AT ALL. Your claims about the video and the similarity to other controlled demoklitions are right off the mark. The WTC 7 collapse is identical to other controlled demolitions shown, and if you say otherwise laddie you are simply lying. Where the North and south towers differ, is in that the explosions have been set off from …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 04 Jul 06
    • 4:38 am

    Nat and Scorpy, no matter how much you pair of professional liars ignore the facts and the paucity of your arguments, nothing changes. You are convincing nobody, and the numbers of people waking up to 911 are increasing, constantly. Frankly I'm sick of feeding you two shill trolls and am satisfied that more than enough information is posted to show anyone who does care, the truth. Your combined dishonesty is apparent for all to see, and your fake claims of having achieved any sort of points made, is just that, fake. Trying to spin what is posted by others, when what …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 04 Jul 06
    • 5:13 am

    WTH I do appreciate your point about people only paying attention to information which supports their views. So why do you do it? Rabbit has before proven he is open to correction, and as far as the signing statements issue goes, there is some discrepancy in the way they are being reported. Your own numbers above are actually pointless. Now the figure of 750 is an estimate, many sources speak of 500+ which is still not denying the number could be 750. Do you not realise that little cross next to the figures means the number given is lower than the …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 04 Jul 06
    • 6:07 am

    Actually WTH, since you are a nitty picky fellow, you probably are more woried about the semantics, so out of a sense of generosity, Rabbit shall give you the point. Bush has issued 130+ signing statements. The figure of 750+ relates to the number of statutes being affected, which is more than all other presidents combined. It is the important number though and not the number of actual signings themselves. Unless you are concerned with the amount stationary being used. It is apparent we have all been talking at cross purposes here, but due to our previous ignorance of signing statements …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 04 Jul 06
    • 7:52 am

    Ha Ha Ha Natalie you are indefatigable and without any honour or honesty. You have not even had time to read what Grove says. It is all verifiable anyway, no imagination deary. But you have attacked the guy without even looking at it. How much more proof is needed that the truth is NOT in Natty's interest. You actually think your pathetic little denial made any difference to anything? You are a joke. A sad pathetic litle joke. Besides which you are the most loathed and disrespected creature most of us have ever come across. That is why its such a …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 04 Jul 06
    • 8:35 am

    Natty I just looked at the article by Bollyn and surprise, surprise you are telling lies. Nothing about Bollyn's article is misrepresenting anything. He neither misquotes nor misuses anything said by Manning. Manning simply says that the FEMA investigation is a load of shit, which is what virtually everyone says. Bollyn doesn't make any false claims for anything Manning says and you are just making that up. Anyone can read it and see. The rest of your post is crap. Rabbit admitted from the outset the photo isn't proof, but it is consistent with the explosives theory. You are still ignoring …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 04 Jul 06
    • 9:00 am

    Natalie Should the day ever come, when you decide to open your mind, and actually seek the answers, assuming by some chance you are not a paid shill, do not hesitate to let me know. I will be pleased to apologise for all the well earned invective I have heaped so generously upon your worthless head. Most of the loathing is due to the fact I am sure you are consciously lying and not merely struggling with Cognitive Dissonance. For example everything you said of the Bollyn article was a lie. Surely you can see this yourself, assuming you haven't merely …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 04 Jul 06
    • 10:33 am

    Actually Natty. Things in the rabbit's life have reached something of an impasse. This very night things have come to a head, and it is this rabbit's intention shortly to pull the pin on his small life. Therefore this will be the last you will hear from me. You are wrong about every matter we have ever argued, and I think you know it, but I do not care. Soon none of this will matter anymore, soon I may have the answers to many things I have wondered about, but about the use of depleted uranium, or the real perpetrators of …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 04 Jul 06
    • 10:58 am

    You're being a goose WTH, but Rabbit's life is a bit too complicated just now for him to waste time trying to detail it all. You just repeated what I already clarified WTH, did you fail to actually read what I wrote? Signing statements is a word, what matters is the 750 constitutional challenges, which is more than all other presidents combined. Whether we call them constitutional challenges or signing statements, that is semantics. We all have only just learned what a signing statement is I expect, so your semantic argument is beside the point. Besides which if you'd read what …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 04 Jul 06
    • 3:33 pm

    Drop it Scorp Detachment from reality is not for me. Rabbit has some very real issues which might have absolutely no meaning for thee. It happens that someone intervened, albeit by distance and hopefully WTH can appreciate the "reality" of the internet, which contributed directly to this. .....................^^.................... Yet I can detect a tiny drop of humanity in you Scorp, and since you are Rabbit's personal troll, he would yet give you a tiny bite, of love. Thankyou for your midget form of concerned humanity. I'd rather you showed more concern to the runaway junta of neocon beastmen who are screwing …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 04 Jul 06
    • 4:57 pm

    Thanks Sally Rabbit is tired now and will maybe return tomorow. Thanks, and know that Frog is the best. Scorpy is just a little worm, but a kind of nice one. He doesn't hate the Chinese which is a good start for anyone. Dammit! OK Scorpy and Natty, I'll wear it. You both disgust me with your sleazery, and actually Natty you confuseth me, though I knew the nature of your secret love dear Bat. Sadly how can I wack you now? I shall try all the same, promise. Could it actually be that Natty is not shilling just dumber than …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 05 Jul 06
    • 12:02 am

    Scorpy Like fire, it can be used constructively or destructively So right and it is good to see all the constructive usage of the MIC in Iraq. Quite inspirational really. Perhaps the USA needs some of this constructive input too? It is generous of you to allow us to call George W Bush a Nazi. His grand father Prescott Bush was of course a Nazi as we know, and treasonously supported Germany via business interests during the war. But Dubya is more of an insane hubristic megalomaniac. Still Nazi sounds good to me.

    George W Bush is an election stealing Nazi.

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 05 Jul 06
    • 7:41 am

    Frog That would have been good advice for another national leader or two Rabbit can think of. Bit late now of course. Frog why do you suppose the Scorpy persists in labelling you and I as Democrats when we are from France and Oz respectively? Do you think he is stuck on the only dualism he knows? Scorpy You do have an odd sense of what constitutes opinion and by contrast, what are facts. The rabbit has patiently explained to you dear Scorp, that facts are things which can be proven, ie: they have some countrpart in real life, while opinions …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 05 Jul 06
    • 9:43 am

    Frog as far as the comparison of the earnings share of the Oz population, I'm surprised that the ratio is only 9 times it's equal share. I'd have guessed it more like twenty or even more. Maybe that's because it is derived at via Tax records. The thing there is that all wage earners cannot avoid being fully taxed. Meanwhile everyone from small businesses, and contractors whom can "minimise" up to the really wealthy especially have the opportunities to avoid allowing the tax department near anything more than , maybe 5% to 50% of their real income. I posted a half …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 06 Jul 06
    • 2:21 am

    Security for the Shrub. Presidential security is certainly an impressive thing. Rabbit wonders how long before Jack Baur (24) will be faced with a threat to the presidential feces? Terrorists bent upon stealing or blowing up, the POTUS porta pottie. Thankyou Redhorse. All's well that ends well..........damn thats an unfortunate choice of words........^^.......... BTW, Scorpy, the rabbit has found something we can agree upon. (though it is but an opinion and not a fact). The leftist political leadership in the USA is the damnedest collection of incompetent stumblefart misfits imaginable: Pelosi, Reid, Dean, Kerry, Clinton. They are not fighting the …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 06 Jul 06
    • 4:41 am

    Frog Rabbit did see the Gumbel article a few days ago after all, after at first thinking otherwise. It all has a depressing feel of deja vu. Only this time probably much more in your face and probably a greater scale since it will no doubt take even more of an "adjustment of results" by the powers that be. Not meant to go off topic again, and more for the excellent term of reference near the end of it. Co-incidence theorist In Oz I'd estimate that 95% of both the major political parties are scumbags. 85% of Liberals and 68% …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 07 Jul 06
    • 3:03 am

    Tiny 1 is a complete lunatic Sally pay her no mind. She interracts with a discussion in the sense a robot does, and has nothing to say. Think of her posts as the sound of an insane cackling, heard as some totally wacked zombie flys past, in the inverted position on an out of control broomstick. It is not from under a rock but out beyond the clouds, even the atmosphere, whence Tiny 1 comes. Like a satellite on a long orbital period, Tina will return again, but always just to cackle, and nothing has she to say. The lack of …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 07 Jul 06
    • 9:34 pm

    Oh my! The rabbit is feeling all shivery, and excited. Not only is WTH onboard but, Natalie even is in agreement with the idea of paper ballots. I would not have believed it if I hadn't seen it. We have never had anything different in Oz, and we still have a shitfull government after every election, so fairness and accountability in elections is no guarantee of anything better. What is most needed is a seriously good choice of parties to vote for, here there and everywhere. But at least we are all agreed on the need for papertrails and or paper …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 07 Jul 06
    • 11:09 pm

    As useful as an Ashtray on a motorbike. Frog the rabbit has an idea. Perhaps we could isolate the Scorpion. Put it in a jar for fun. Since Natalie has shown an uncharacteristic support for a reasonable idea, accountability in elections, we actually have an issue which it seems can even reach across the boundaries to the underworld. While Scorpy still resists. WTH is even closer to the fold this time, nay a leader even, (as Rabbit always knew he could be). We will thus have all the women, all the brains and all the beasts of the field and the …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 08 Jul 06
    • 12:07 am

    Frogling.......The image was entirely due to the rabbit's fairly extensive experience of the wondrous Scorp. Knowing as he did the image would fit well into the sort of existential experience known to Scorpy as thinking, but to others has a more mundane and unsightly appearance. ......ooh look it's the Scorp, in the flesh!!!! Scorpy we have already posted the links to several whistle blowers who allege they took part in activities which suggest fraud in the eelections. There are the none too subtle contrasts in exit poll results which alone should be enough to force a complete re-count or annulling of …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 10 Jul 06
    • 12:24 am

    Thankyou for the well wishes Scorpy. The bond between a rabbit and and his troll is a sacred thing. There is such a thin line between love and hate, pleasure and pain. Hopefully Scorpy, who has actually always enjoyed a special place of respect in the rabbit's view, notes how I have never done great evil to his name? In fact that is due to the excellent choice of handles, I simply believe in calling things by the most accurate description, part of my honest and simple approach. You are a Scorpion, and a fine bitey snipy one, thus every wack …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 10 Jul 06
    • 1:29 am

    Scorpy here is day of democracy at work in Iraq. The report of Iraqi resistance gives a lot more form and subtance to the steadily rising casualty figures. I cannot help but smile with a grim satisfaction at the picture painted by the following paragraph. Resistance fighters destroy Abrams tank, killing a reported six American troops . . . In a bulletin posted at 7:30pm Makkah time Friday evening, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that a short while earlier, Iraqi Resistance fighters in al-Miqdadiyah destroyed a US Abrams tank and killed at least six US troops. The correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam reported a …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 10 Jul 06
    • 11:29 pm

    Scorpy why do you make this strawman? Rabbit never said the Abrams was destroyed by an RPG, so why do you specifically act as if you achieve something by saying otherwise? Scorpy the Abrams tank is confirmed destroyed, so I guess the Iraqi resistance must have had something better than an RPG, maybe they had some captured DU rounds for same? Maybe they had some of those Israeli mines which are turning up in the hands of the resistance from time to time and which via a DU penetrator can breach the Abrams tank. Rabbit shall show you just how good …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 10 Jul 06
    • 11:38 pm

    Natalie attempting some historical revision of her own, says These armchair Monday morning whiners apparently expected a painless, instant, and natural transition from decades of totalitarian rule and murderous suppression Actually Natty, we expected exactly the sort of unmitigated disaster which has evolved from day one of the illegal invasion of Iraq. Nobody around here expected things to run smoothly as you indicate,except of course the US "it'll be a cake walk" administration. More to the point, we knew then as we know even better now that the USA nor it.s pitiful few allies in crime, had any right to be …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 4:27 am

    Dammit I just lost a bit of post. Natty nobody is cutting off peoples heads for fun! Those who are doing the slicing are mostly if not exclusively Al-CIA-duh. These people are only in Iraq because of the illegal US invasion. Nobody in Iraq unless you count a few psychos in uniform, is actually having any fun from all appearances. Is cutting the head of an invader or a citizen of an invading country worse than shooting or bombing civilians in their own country? Is it worse than spreading depleted Uranium all over a country which never threatened or atcked you …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 4:54 am

    Now I see Natty is trying to pretend depleted uranium is good for us again. Natalie the vapours of Uranium are the problem and always have been. The chernobyl meltdown doesn't come even close to aproximating what happen when depleted Uranium Sheels, bombs and bullets are vapourised. The alpha radiation which is normally not a problem due to very short range, is an enormous problem when ingested due to Uranium Uranyls extraordinary affinity for human DNA. The lower level does are in fact the worst in the long run, since they don't kill the cells merely mutate them. The range of …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 5:47 am

    You know what I think when I see somebody geting their head cut off, by a dubiously convincing Muslim on a video, which invariably turns up just in time for Bush to gain a much needed boost in his woeful approval ratings? I think, well that's one person who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. You the USA made Iraq into the wrong place, before it was just another averagely repressed ME country under another US installed dictator. Seen one sen em all. Now Iraq is the gateway to hell, and when you maniac leaders get up the …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 5:56 am

    There is another reason we don't believe Bin Laden was involved in 911 and it is a much more significant one Natty. The fake videos proved nothing except that the US pulls such stunts, which we all knew actually. No the reason sweet Natalie, is that the FBI admits it has to this day NO EVIDENCE of Bin Ladens involvment. There is no admission from Bin Laden as we know, and there is no evidence of him. Which does beg the question "what were people like Cheney and co doing claiming Bin Laden was the culprit within less than an hour." …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 9:14 am

    Your last couple of lines of your post are trying however feebly to copy a particularly amusing one liner Rabbit once used to trounce you Scorpy, it is gratifying that you found it so uncomfortable that you feel a need to try and recycle it now against Rabbit. But Rabbit is no contortionaist Scorpy, since he is able to post lots of sources from many and varied sites to support his arguments. Unlike Scorpy who is convinced his word alone makes a fact out of anything. Don't go getting your foot within such close range of your mouth when dealing with …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 11 Jul 06
    • 9:41 am

    What you need to get your head around my little American chickens is this. All the many lawyers and world leaders and the millions of citizens of many countries who now are calling the USA a war criminal nation, a rogue and a threat to world peace, were not doing any such thing just a few years ago. None of this was heard during the Balkans, or the Gulf War, although not everything was as it should be in those instances, the facts were grey enough to allow for the benefit of the doubt. Not this time sunshine, the whole world …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 2:18 am

    The US trying of these men will not impress me WTH until it actually results in justice. We all know how many soldiers were even tried from My Lai, and I cannot even bear to write the final result. Can you revisit the closest you ever came to really trying the abuse, with pride? So the fact that despite months of attempts to cover this up, for that has been the case WTH, we read about this in such as the Scorpy is sneeringly calling terrorist sources, back in November I think. The story of the Pentagon attempts to cover it …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 2:25 am

    Sally I am an ex mormon and know a thing or two about fundamentalist christians too. Parents and sister still. I see you've had the Natty experience. We all end up with a similar reaction eventually. It is why Rabbit calls her the Vampire. Natalie the Vampire Bat, Natty Bat, rabbit's favoritist shill. Love of anything which causes death or suffering, anything dark and monstrous attracts her support like a moth to a light. I have a question Sally Exactly what were those slurs exactly? I do think in this age of jumping to pre concieved notions to quickly and grasping …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 2:54 am

    Frog asks a poignant question. Does a shill know what it is doing ? ....................^^.................... That is a question which will probably never be answered. It reminds the rabbit about the story of the two door guards one of whom will ALWAYS lie and the other who will ALWAYS tell the truth. But you don't know the difference. How do you find out if the door on the right or the left is the one? Doctor Who solved it as we know, but I'm not sure if we can solve your quandary. Good question though it shows deep thought. Under the …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 3:39 am

    Frog a new toy yes. No not so much electric, as electronic. See email. More naughtiness on the electoral front The usual suspects.

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 3:51 am

    Hooray for the brave marines. The Iraqis should definately lay down their arms now and accept old uncle sam's tutellage and beneficence. Look at that almost a thousand kids get to go to school. WOW. Soon they might even get electricity too! Do you think? Yep and the American officer is explaining the whos and motives of the resistance, that's just all OK then Natalie. Thanks for setting us straight. I guess we'll be seeing the Iraqi's at the next World Cup then. It's just so good of those marines to come and fix all this infrastructure which those pesky Iraqi's …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 12 Jul 06
    • 9:44 pm

    The computer sims were tweaked at various points way beyond the actual parameters until the required result happened. Furthermore they needed to be computer sims because there was no way they could tweak anything with a scale model which is still the simplest and most sure way to prove the thing possible, but it isn't so nobody will. We've been there a long time ago Nat and I am not wasting time on it. Your quote actually didn't support the fairy tale, it did nothing. Keep on smoldering away though, we couldn't care less. The numbers of those who know the …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 13 Jul 06
    • 9:47 pm

    AND the winner is..............................................................................................................SCORPY. How did that tubing go? It must have been much easier for you Scorpy dear troll.. You were having such fun you stayed away for a few days. What kind of smoke do you use? Hickory or just Oak was always good for trout or eels in Rabbit's experience. The US economy is now healthy vibrant and growing, is it Scorpy, that is good to hear. So is the Chinese economy. On a scale of one to ten, Scorpy and given China's 50 billion dollar trade surplus, we shall call it 1. Where do you think …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 14 Jul 06
    • 7:46 pm

    Good election article by Palast This Rape of women under Saddam Hussein era was a rare crime. Is this more of the American achievements in Iraq? I can't understand why the ungrateful Iraqis are whinging. Scorpy has an interesting Spin on the Chinese economic powerhouse. America, specifically Nixon is responsible. I might have known if anything good was happening America was behind it. Good one Scorpy. Perhaps Scorpy could explain what exactly Nixon did to "bring China into the modern economic and social world"? Did he teach them how to make things and sell them Scorpy? Did America with …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 16 Jul 06
    • 8:27 pm

    Like I said, a big Garage sale. WTH I did post a reply to your article yesterday but it got lost it seems. Experienced internet users and especially those who are genuinely seeking the truth, know how to trace a story to a reliable source. Verifying individual facts within a story is also another way to go. The fact that there is bullshit on the web, doesn't lesson the value of the net as an information source. That one can as a rule establish the truth or otherwise of anything on the web fairly quickly is the whole point to …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 16 Jul 06
    • 9:21 pm

    WTH Looked at the Unity 08 site and I think it's excellent. Have you joined it? Does it look like being viable in time? It is the answer of course. The problem and they seem to anticipate it, will be dissipating the dissatisfied voters among too many candidates. As such Ralph Nader on his own was simply not organised enough and possibly before his time. I think any efforts to try and get a decent Democrap candidate in place instead is a waste of time. It will not happen. What the new candidate needs to do is campaign against the rep …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 17 Jul 06
    • 10:27 pm

    Thanks Sally I'll look. It is more of the fraud story of course. I am fascinated to see the outcome of the Mexican election dance. It may have an effect on the USA election maybe, putting more backbone in the disenfranchised? I could have said exactly what you just did WTH, but not better, also the third party uprisings and the point they can effect outcomes even from the fringe. Problem being that the issues which are accumalating at street level are not solved by the small limited matters such parties can affect. One has to be in the running for …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 18 Jul 06
    • 8:12 pm

    WTH points out You and I spend a lot of time reading. When I was working 10 to 12 hours a day I could not do this. This very idea occurs to me often. The frustration of trying to discuss with people who have not had as I have an average of ten hours a day for five years, absorbing information is quite overwhelming. Especially the time spent filling in the gaps of history which are not normally included in the public consumption means that no real discussion is possible since it would be like someone discussing the bible with a …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 18 Jul 06
    • 9:06 pm

    Thanks for the letter Sally. Rabbit watching situation daily from the following. Electronic Intifada. We are getting much more balanced TV coverage in Oz on the National broadcasters as usual of course, and most Aussies are light years beyond Americans in understanding the reality in the ME. The pictures of destruction and death in Lebanon are showing nightly and the few pictures of apparent damage to Israel is laughable in comparison. The gutless blood drinking Zionist scuz are of course rushing off to the bombshelters just because a few fireworks landed in their city. Meanwhile our grotesque little insect of …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 3:51 am

    Frog aint you glad that you don't have to admit that this bloke is your president.

    You know it, I know it and the American people know it. But everyone is afraid to say it. They say it privately, but people are afraid of saying it publicly because you will be branded as a liberal, elite, intellectual snob. But believe me, you don't have to be an intellectual to see how painfully stupid our president is. Just look at the conversation he is having with world leaders at the G-8 summit. Mikes picked up the causal talk between the world leaders. …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 1:31 am

    Frog The FDR story from 1933 is fitting well enough into the picture I'm forming of the politics of the time, and is consistent with so much else like Prescott Bush etc. Not to mention the ease with which many of the former Nazis were repatriated back to the USA after the war, upon the "excuse" of the communist threat. I was taken with one thing FDR said The War Against the Emergency. So these wars against concepts have been going on for a while in the USA? The War On Terror ............. WOT The War On Drugs ................... WOD (or …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 11:04 am

    Rabbit doesn't suggest war should be fair WTH. You miss my point entirely. I am merely pointing out that if you are going to eliminate the rules for one side then you can forget about dictating them to the other. If its OK for Israel and America to kill anyone, anyway they like, then it is entirely reasonable that their victims hit them back in whatever way they can. Which means WTH that there are no terrorists. It also means that two countries with the bulk of the worlds weapons between them, and who show no compunctions about using any of …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 11:21 am

    WTH what would be wrong with the POTUS acting like a world class leader and not a Zionist scumbag, and demanding that Israel stop its over the top aggression immediately, and allow for humanitarian efforts on the ground? Do you have a problem with people going about their ordinary business do you, you think they shouldn't have gotten in the way of Israels war? How thoughtless of them WTH, to get in the way of a country who wants to drop bombs and missiles. It certainly serves them right, they can't go giving their tax dollars to arm Israel and then …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 7:47 pm

    WTH Rabbit also saw the post of which you speak, it was up for a while, and I was online when you put it up.. Here's something which I learnt the hard way. The new edit function is such that if one edits a post, and then returns to the page later, without having refreshed the whole page, you will only see the unedited version. Problem then if you edit again, is that you edit from the original posting of course. Thus altering the actual downloaded version back in the process. Always refresh the page before posting or editing just in …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 19 Jul 06
    • 11:40 pm

    Rabbit admits taking a photocopier to a tip and beating it to scrap with a sledgehammer when in his copier technician days. Sometimes violence is the only way to deal with something. But the taking out of such impulses on inanimate objects shows what is the purpose of violence. SELF gratification. I forgot to mention it before but WTH you should not go around labelling everybody Islamic Fundamentalists just because the USA or Israel is killing them. It tends to weaken your argument by dilution if such a label is too broad in its application. Hezbollah isn't fundamentalist though it supports …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 21 Jul 06
    • 12:05 am

    This picture says a lot. Advice from a less encumbered age. Warm Moist Muffins! yum yum How innocent the 50s and 60s is the message to be gleaned I think. I love this lady's take on the Bush "groping" incident. The Bushling is absolutely the best value for laughs. When he is on tour we get some of his best stuff. The 2006 G8 Back to the Bush Tour has certainly been his winning performance to date in Rabbit's opinion. The Bushler mounting the Condi, yes I read some rumours. Redhorse that is not a pretty image. The …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 21 Jul 06
    • 1:50 am

    The whole idea that this ME war is about religion is a red herring anyway. A useful diversion. The Israelis are doing this for land, and water especially. The Lebanese who are being killed, and probably who support at least in spirit, Hezbollah; are not only Muslims. The resistance to Israeli aggression will by natural progression be Lebanese of all religions, and they are not any of them fighting for religion. It is even predictable on the basis of the fact that I, ostensibly a Christian living in Australia support them. If the rabbit blew something up or got blown up, …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 21 Jul 06
    • 8:53 am

    Israeli children send gifts to Lebanese children. Updated!

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 21 Jul 06
    • 9:31 pm

    WTH Making excuses for the admin's evacuation of US citizens is gross for the following reasons. ***The USA could tell Israel to cease, or to even hold a pause, and Israel could be made to obey, that is a 100% sure thing, and you know it. A threat to NOT supply even the currently promised jet fuel would be more than enough, without it the Zionists are grounded anyway. ***One of the reasons for the delay in evacuating American Citizens from Lebanon is the fact that the ships to be used are FIRST unloading more weapons for Israel's use. Those trapped …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 21 Jul 06
    • 10:41 pm

    Frog I think this time, if not also last time, 911, the false flag op will be done to Bush rather than by him. I'd not hesitate to hold Cheney directly responsible for 911, and he could do it again, but I think Bush is baulking finally, as Henry Makow suggests. The media criticism of late is interesting. I find it hard to believe the Zionist/Corporate controlled media is still capable of censoring itself so much over the Israeli outrages in Lebanon, and yet would allow itself to be critical of the Shrub as it is increasingly being. The Bushling is …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 4:22 am

    You can be an Gnostic if you want Horse. We are into thinking for oneself. We don't really even get into God is good and all that but realise it is all relative. Good needs bad in order to define itself and visa versa. Bad seeks to destroy Good, but by removing good the bad has no definition, no meaning. Without Bad, Good hasn't either. All existence in this plane is made possible by the dichotomies of good and evil. Light and dark. Up and down, left and right, that is the law of this plane of existence. The duality of …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 10:42 am

    Hitler nor others need to recognise their Gnosticism for it to be so. Just as one doesn't join a gnostic church as such, one realises just that one is. This is a fine ranting Gryphon. Eric Blumrich's site is a goldmine of excellent and effective presentations. I was told today his site is closing down soon. Everybody should visit Bushflash and gather copies of the goodies that they be not lost to posterity. That evil is with us today. Occupation. One for the Shrub.

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 22 Jul 06
    • 8:48 pm

    Horse you are ascribing notions of good and evil to Gnosticism, which is above this dichotomy of good and evil. Gnosticism is a way of understanding, not a religious path towards some fixed goal, no heaven and no seventy virgins in a Gnostic vision. Just the sense of connection to all sentience, awareness of oneness with God by another paradigm. Not all gnostics are good, or even seek to be. Gnostics should be concentrating only on the purity of their own input. Paying most attention to their intent. The rabbit recomends this site .What is a Gnostic? We claim many …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 23 Jul 06
    • 9:48 pm

    Bush is not a Gnostic. Hitler wasn't really a deceiver Redhorse and besides deceit isn't against Gnosticism. Did you read the link? I think Good and Evil are very easy to judge personally. I am committed to the path of good myself and feel confident of my judgement that DU, the Bush Junta, or the Zionists are members of the caucus of Evil. The christian expression of the principle that a mere mortal cannot have the Omniscience to make a proper balanced judgement of another, is not exclusive of the ability to make at least a judgement of good and evil …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 24 Jul 06
    • 2:07 am

    Israel's army chief of staff, Dan Halutz, told reporters in Tel Aviv on Friday that any military incursion would be limited in scope. 'We will fight terror wherever it is, because if we do not fight it, it will fight us. If we don't reach it, it will reach us,' he said. 'We will also conduct limited ground operations as much as needed in order to harm the terror that harms us.' In order to harm the terror that harms us........................^^.......................... So far 350 civilians killed in Lebanon and up to a million refuges hasn't stopped two million Israelis having …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 24 Jul 06
    • 9:08 pm

    Good Hello Whattheheck The rabbit was just thinking of you regarding the following, back to those signing statements. President Bush's penchant for writing exceptions to laws he has just signed violates the Constitution, an American Bar Association task force says in a report highly critical of the practice. The ABA group, which includes a one-time FBI director and former federal appeals court judge, said the president has overstepped his authority in attaching challenges to hundreds of new laws. The attachments, known as bill-signing statements, say Bush reserves a right to revise, interpret or disregard measures on national security …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 24 Jul 06
    • 9:22 pm

    WTH Your hypocrisy is astounding. The following statement by you is worthy of Bush for its self irony: There is no more reason to accept blame for the actions of others, (or to attribute it to an entire religion) than there is to accept credit if they do something good. Well why would you say that? You are blaming entire countries and a whole religion for acts caried out by a few extremists from one religion. Come on you clown, explain how Islam is a violent religion again. Tell us all about Islam, on the back of that tripe it will …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 1:03 am

    Back to the STOLEN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. The best thing about knowing the truth is that things just keep on coming out to prove your points. The elections were stolen, and the next one is going to be stolen, if there is a next one... Diebold caught red handed in the biggest smoking gun (for intent) yet. Now why the f*ck would you have specially built Voting machines, with a backdoor entry into the programs if it wasn't intended to commit fraud? Basically, Diebold included a "back door" in its software, allowing anyone to change or modify the software. There are …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 2:12 am

    Ted Lang ties the whole historical context into a simple enough progression using simple verifiable examples, that ALMOST anyone can follow and understand. Nation without Sovereignty Please read it WTH. Pretty, fluffy rabbit please.. You will like Ted, Rabbit chooses him specially for his appropriateness as a reliable source for one with your established viewpoint. Not your views, but your viewpoints are similar, do you understand?

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 2:37 am

    Sally, Do we at least get multiple choices? What happened to the Diebold employee? a) The Diebold employee was investigated and prosecuted. b) The Diebold employee was investigated and fired. c) The Diebold employee was investigated and reprimanded. d) The Diebold employee was quietly terminated and nothing more was heard from him. Rabbit chooses.....none of the above? You and daughter received for your efforts. a) Special award ceremony and a nice certificate of appreciation on behalf of a grateful nation. b) A thankyou and a promise that such information was taken seriously and would be followed up on, followed by actions …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 25 Jul 06
    • 10:01 pm

    WTH These are your words exactly: There is no more reason to accept blame for the actions of others, (or to attribute it to an entire religion) than there is to accept credit if they do something good. So how is it wrong to relate this to the attacking of entire countries or a religion on the basis of what some Muslims have done? Do you mean only Christians shouldn't be judged on the actions of others? You are either for collective punishment or you are not. WTH, the dangers of believing too easily any report, and also of allowing …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 26 Jul 06
    • 1:22 am

    Sally, Sadly I expected to hear that Not a thing happened to the Diebold employee. He's alive and well, still sharing his conservative wisdom on that same message board, spewing forth vitriolic epithets .......... I just think it has all become so surreal, so confoundedly twisted that Lewis Carrol and George Orwell combined could barely have envisioned it between them. If they did I fear the reviews would have derided their fantasies as having run too far away with them THIS time. I fear also those mysterious Halliburton concentration camps will be filled up and no doubt overcrowded as usual. Who …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 26 Jul 06
    • 10:33 pm

    WTH You are not making any sense in trying to ignore the consequences of your statement about collective collective guilt in the context of your justifications of the attacks against Afghanistan, Iraq or Lebanon as elements of a war on Islamic fundamentalism. Your denials lack that assurance your words have when you know you are right anyway. I never meant it as a criticism so much, just an opportunity to bring your own stated moral convictions into line with reality on the ground as I always am. You attribute the worst motives to the rabbit since you think he is a …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 26 Jul 06
    • 11:14 pm

    I wasn't suggesting we discuss the Macbeth video! My contention, and the example is valid in this case, is that the Macbeth misinformation may remain available on the Internet forever, as you rightly decry but as I pointed out with the Macbeth example the truth about it's misinformation nature will follow it just as long. Must the rabbit give you a context for this point now as well? Better safe than sorry I suppose. Erroneous information is no more intrinsically a problem on the internet than via any other media. In fact it is clearly, by my point above, less of …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 27 Jul 06
    • 8:33 pm

    We are no longer talking about signing statements WTH, we are calling them suspect things and thus removing your semantic legs. So for your sake, here IT is again. FROM ABA article above.

    The task force said the statements suggest the president will decline to enforce some laws. Bush has had more than 800 signing statement challenges, compared with about 600 signing statements combined for all other presidents, the group said.
    You are swinging about like a mad monkey in denial. I don't care what you want to call them, the comparison of apples with apples, gives 800 to Bush, …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 27 Jul 06
    • 10:23 pm

    I assume that the killing of innocent civilians is what makes someone a terrorist WTH. How many innocent civilians have been killed by Islamic Extremists to make them qualify? How many innocent civilians must be killed by America and Israel before they could be considered to be practising Terrorism? So far with in excess of a half million you obviously don't consider them to have crossed the line. I remind you again, that the Islamic Extremists, the Shia of Iraq are the ones you are supporting. Al-CIA duh isn't seriously involved in any of the conflicts you are fighting by the …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 27 Jul 06
    • 11:33 pm

    WTH If Hezbollah had bombed a UN base and killed four UN observers, would you call that terrorism? What about bombing a Milk factory does that class as terrorism? I ask because Isarel has done both in the last few days in this so called war on terror. What about targeting Red Cross ambulances WTH, is that something terrorists do? Israel has fired missiles right through the center of the red crosses on two ambulances, dead center like it was a target. Then they strafed those same ambulances. Of course that was just a mistake wasn't it WTH? Like the …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 12:37 am

    I am getting a bit sick of your belly crawling excuses for Israel WTH. You have busily made excuses for their atack on the USS Liberty before, claiming mistaken identity, which was the official lie at the time. Read the official report then sir denial! The weather was clear and calm in the area at the time of attack and throughout the preceding hours of June . Visibility was excellent. At all times prior to the attack the Liberty was flying her normal size American flag (five feet by eight feet) at the masthead. The flag was shot down during …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 10:24 am

    No WTH you got Frogs question wrong you silly fellow, and it was an easy one too.! Who else gains but the administration which needed 9/11 as an excuse to attack a couple of countries they had planned years earlier to attack. They never made any secret of it, read PNAC and you will see the whole script laid out. They also benefit from the fact that you will not do that. Nothing more helpful to the Bush Junta than that final hard core of deluded sheeple who will believe anything they say and keep on repeating it for them. Bah …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 11:27 am

    WTH it is noticeable that you are sticking to your piddly little semantics while all the while ignoring the far more substantive argument about Israel, Islamic extremism and the WOT. Is there any reason for that other than an inability to face up to the truth? A number of specific questions were put to you, and I am interested to see how you go about wriggling out of the quandary their answers will create for your funny ideas. It makes me sad that you always run away from the real issues with silly little matters like the signing statements, when the …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 28 Jul 06
    • 10:44 pm

    87% for Bush Impeachment. Bushling trying to insulate himself from War Crimes. If he can stop the prosecution of the lower echelons no doubt he thinks that will extend to the higher ups. Nobody can accuse the man of being a legal genius that's for sure. There is a consistency to simply overriding and vetoing and ignoring everything which he doesn't agree with. There is this consistency in his supporter base too of course. Yes, consistency is something, possibly the only thing, this admin has excelled at.

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jul 06
    • 1:19 am

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 29 Jul 06
    • 1:40 am

    No the flood didn't wipe out evil. Nor I guess will the next conflagration wipe it out, for all the rapturous prophesies. All these things do is thin out the ranks of evil and good alike and hope more good than evil will survive. What's the odds? I fear luck may play a role. Thanks for the Satire Sally, but it isn't all that far out really is it? This is the most excellent analysis of Islamic resistance I have read. I learnt a lot from reading that I must say. I dare WTH to read it! It uses …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 30 Jul 06
    • 6:08 am

    It is a good article Frog? The rabbit found it to be quite inspirational. The message about Arabs fighting more effectively for Islam than for a flag, is an eye opener. I have been thinking about how it relates to Iran, and this is where I'm at. Iranians, unlike most other Mid East countries have been a nation for a long time, and they are Persians, not Arabs. Nationalistic fervour is a genuine part of their character, in contrast to Arab countries, where the Islamist connection is more important than the national maybe. I'd guess Iran is not going to be …

    Posted to Was the Presidential Election Stolen?
    • 25 May 06
    • 10:52 pm

    I'd love too, but sorry Scorpy and WTH, I've just had my lunch and you two together feeding off each other's delusions and with the combined denial of two cringing cowards, it would be more than I could handle today. Bye.............^^............... Oh a little something to pass the time. One of your great thinkers? Gives the poverty of actual knowledge even at the top away a bit. How embarrassing, this is your foreign secretary. Oh how embarrassing. How's the War on Terror going guys? Feeling less terror now are we?

    Posted to Why Exiting Iraq Wont Be Easy
    • 25 May 06
    • 10:56 pm

    Blast ..........the rabbit cannot help itself. Scorpy Rabbit agrees with you; getting out of Iraq will eventually be quite easy. After the Shia backlash which will follow the attack on Iran your clever war chiefs are getting ready for, any American troops still alive in Iraq a few weeks later shouldn't take more than a single ship or two to bring home. How is that War on Terror going boys? Oh Scorpy which Mullahs have wanted to kill you? Could you provide links to the actual threats, for our information? I also agree that the best way to get democracy is …

    Posted to Why Exiting Iraq Wont Be Easy
    • 25 May 06
    • 11:06 pm

    Now Now Scorpy. The USA invaded Iraq partly because they were trying to sell their oil in Euros, every body knows that. The first thing they did upon entering Iraq, apart from securing the oil fields, (ignoring the security of anything else), was to return the Iraqi Oil back into Dollars. Actually the truly informed also know that it wasn't so much to get the oil, although controlling it was crucial, but to stop it being produced. The desired result can be seen in the record profits being made by the owners of your excuse for a government. Obviously if Iraq …

    Posted to Why Exiting Iraq Wont Be Easy
    • 26 May 06
    • 12:03 am

    Italian Film documents use of Chemical Weapons Hell Scorpy not only do you arseholes have lots of the shit, you also like to use it on civilian populations. The USA is the cause of much proliferation of such weapons of course, especially Iraq, under Hussein. More on US complicity in the Iraqi atrocities using Chemical and Biological weapons against the Iranians, who you now propose are somehow deserving of more aggression I might add. Lets be honest Scorpy. You are a cheerleader for montrous acts of International terror and war crimes of the highest order. Nobody is expecting …

    Posted to Why Exiting Iraq Wont Be Easy
    • 26 May 06
    • 8:07 am

    Does Scorpy think the Soviet Union collapsed due to communist incompetence and corruption? Scorpy that is a meaningless slogan. Any analysis of the collapse of the Soviet Union, begins and ends with the economic collapse. Largely orchestrated by the USA, and which Afganistan was a large part by bleeding the Soviets dry in a long and expensive war of attrition. This is historically important to recognise, for the USA is now on the verge of a sort of supercharged version of the same thing. Come on now Scorpy, the rabbit came out from under the hedge. Wiggled his nose and waggled …

    Posted to Why Exiting Iraq Wont Be Easy
    • 25 May 06
    • 10:46 pm

    My only defense, in one word. PERMACULTURE. Mitigating at least?

    Posted to Meat-Industrial Complex
    • 06 Feb 06
    • 3:20 am

    Too bad the rabbit missed out on a Thinky wacking. A fairly rare dittohead around these parts our ol Thinkmaster it is good to see him back in business spreading his good natured moronity around. Don't compare him with Tiny Shrew, for he is actually more of a thinker. What he mostly means is Think for YOURself. He is giving you an example of thoughtlessness, the rest is up to you brother. Think for yourself, or see where you'll end up. Rabbit pictures Thinky as wearing one of those Clapboard sign arrangements which people wear to advertise Pizza's or the End …

    Posted to Witness for the Prosecution
    • 06 Feb 06
    • 5:24 am

    By the way Wiley. Thinky is one of the breeding pair of Dittoheads of which you have heard some mention. From his relative sweetness it seems likely he would be the Yin half of that Union, Rabbit cannot for the life of him recall the mate. The rabbit is idly wacking his Thinkfulness, but he is not unmindful of the threads subject, and shall say something stunningly radiant, at least about it soon.

    Posted to Witness for the Prosecution
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 7:21 am

    Little Johnny Howhard is a Bush lover. He is a Neo-crazy so is the Danish Prime Minister, Rassmussen. Trying to get a message to any of our representatives is easy enough. Getting a standard reply is a piece of cake. Any more than that then don't waste your time. Self serving Party Lin e two faced bastards and bitches all of them. They should all be raped with Pineapples, rough end first.

    Posted to Witness for the Prosecution
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 11:16 pm

    The image just falls down at the actual enactment. The pineapple reigns supreme. It is at least possible whilst being the epitomy of uncomfortable. Rabbit heard a guy say it once (whilst in jail), when the guy returned from his appearance in court for sentencing. When asked how he'd gone he replied that he'd been raped with a pineapple, pointy end first. Since in his case it referred to fourteen years in prison, I figured it was fitting.

    Posted to Witness for the Prosecution
    • 09 Feb 06
    • 8:06 am

    Dwarfs smell worst after sex I'm told. .........................................eeeew!

    Posted to Witness for the Prosecution
    • 06 Feb 06
    • 3:46 am

    Oh GOD.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTH. You cannot be left alone for a few days without you go shitting in your own shoes again. Dude what is it with you and your need to eat your feet? When WTH speaks, the surprise is not that he invariably manages to get his foot in his mouth, within his first post or two. What keeps one guessing every time, is how exactly he will go about getting the second one in there simultaneously, within his next few posts. It has taken the rabbit a few days to get his head around this one. But here goes. …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 06 Feb 06
    • 3:48 am

    I support the Danish press right to have published the cartoons, it is free speech and the Danes will exercise it if anyone will. I am sorry to see so many Muslims enraged about it. I am less sensitive to the hurt caused by doing it, if it were in isolation. This is definately not the case. It cannot be seen in isolation. This deliberate insult, for it was, a staged and intentional insult. You only have to see the cartoons. They are pretty poor. Has anyone here seen the cartoons? Rabbit has. they are crappy. They resemble the sort of …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 06 Feb 06
    • 5:52 am

    Knowing , as the rabbit does, The Danish Newspaper, Jyllands Posten, which first published the cartoons, it must be mentioned it is the more outspoken of the two in Jutland, the other being Midtjyllands Avis. They actually called for ebtries I believe. Basically it seems obvious that any entries were destined to be malaevolent. Most serious cartoonists steered away from it sating it was beyond acceptable, and besides highly dangerous. How obvious is this that it was a deliberate attempt to provoke? My guess is the people behind the newspaper doing this, were Zionists. Rabbit has seen how infiltrated the newspapers …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 06 Feb 06
    • 6:14 am

    The above fairly detailed biological description explains how a moron can talk out of it's arse. In fact what we mean is this. They are getting it up the kyber, whilst living in states of denial, by the media which has them hypnotised, and can do anything with them it wants. Today they are told War is Peace. They believe it and never questioned it. Individuals may, but they are not represented to any degree in the media, so nobody notices. Since nobody is questioning it beyond a few mildly disgruntled letters to the editor from a selecet few who are …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 3:57 am

    Actually Armadhinejad may have the perfect response. Rabbit heard this morning he has called for Cartoonists to depict the Holocaust in Cartoons. Rabbit for one hopes this recieves a good response. Frankly he is much more likely to strike a nerve with that than showing Jesus getting a blowjob from one of his disciples or perhaps driving out the moneychangers from the temple so that he and his "gang" can control the drug trade going through the holy places. A tit for tat insult match will buy a bit of time too, maybe. Frankly Lumens, the rabbit is tired of wasting …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 9:27 pm

    Has anyone else ever noticed how the favorite analogy of morons and dittoheads is that of Police shooting people? Invariably WTH, Scorpy, Jay, Jay and other morons raise the analogy of a policeman shooting shooting some. They make the assumption in EVRY case that the shooting is justifiable no matter the circumstances, even as mistaken or accidental or whatever, just so long as a policeman does it, ie: Authority, then it is OK and can be used as an effective counter to any argument of brutality and violence. I think it is to be expected that this is the favorite image …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 9:45 pm

    WTH in his pathetically wanting guesswork about the Cartoon inspired violence, is choosing to ignore that this has not occurred in a vacuum. It was not the Danish who were the first to print such cartoons, actually it has been done before, and even in this case the incident happened way back in September last year. The whole thing is a setup, and it is obviously being done to push the Europeans towards supporting a Bush war on Iran. It is transparant and a mere checking of the people involved with the staged printing of these cartoons now is very telling …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 10:59 pm

    Of course the above post was specifically for WTH. Apologies to true American patriots who are forced to share a flag with....people.......like this braindead sack of arrogance, hubris and terror. Perhaps since there really are not, that many Terrorists, but there do appear to be so many who are terrified of them to such a mind boggling degree they are voluntarily choosing to live in a martial law state with no rights or freedom, maybe we need a new name? Many of us feel no terror. In the end, what is a terrorist if he fails to terrify? Rabbit has …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 10:20 pm

    WTH is lucky we believe in his existence for he is otherwise a figment of his own imagination it seems. Unless we all have in common the delusion that a Cringer in denial called WTH is inhabiting this thread.................. then maybe he is a figment of our imaginations. Rabbit for one could not have imagined this sort of creature, not my figment. Maybe he is a fig?

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 09 Feb 06
    • 12:38 am

    Wiley, it is cyclical. Once Rabbit also displayed a saintly patience with WTH, beyond even that shown by Lumens now. Rabbit gave WTH the benefit of the doubt time and again. But finallly ever the Rabbit has his limits. About the third time he showed promising progress only to withdraw into total willfull ignorance at the moment of realising he is about to reach a logical, but unpalateable conclusion. WTH has simply fallen into the category of unsalvageable and therefore expendable. Rabbit is a mercenary soul, we must cut our losses. We should realise that the dittoheads have the function of …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 10 Feb 06
    • 4:04 am

    WTH better late than never I suppose. Informed people who read Rense or Jones for example knew several days ago that three of the cartoons purported by the Danish Imams to be from the Jyllands Posten were frauds. One was plucked from AP and had nothing to do with Muslims or Mohammed but was an entrant in a Pig squealing contest in France, he just happened to have a beard. One is of a Dog rooting someone bending over praying and another is a childish cartoon to do with peadophilia. There is no maybe about it. It has also been established …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 10 Feb 06
    • 4:11 am

    WTH did you just ask if any Islamic Nations are condemning the violence over the cartoons? You cannot be for real. Most of them have condemned the violence you clown. They have aksed their citizencs to be calm and to protest in orderly ways, to avoid violence and they have been doing everything in their power to protect the embassies and foreigners. You live in a fantasy world for sure. Just because the TV only shows a few rent a crowd groups chanting and acting like goatheads. You can at least find the reports of the truth from the internet, make …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 10 Feb 06
    • 4:25 am

    A few clues from a five minute search to show WTH the real face of the Middle Eastern Governments' response. Does WTH understand that people in a protesting crowd do not represent their government in the ME any more than in the USA? Lebanon apologises to DK Still Lebanon but Muslim Clerics calling for peace and common sense. Surprising to you WTH? <a href="javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/world/2006/02/05/intv.hamid.karzai.cnn','2006/02/12');">Afghan President Hamid Karzai condemned the cartoons and the violent protests. Syrian officials denounced the violence in Damascus and called on protesters to exercise self-restraint, That's a start for you WTH. Careful you …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 11 Feb 06
    • 5:03 am

    OK LUME, WHAT YEAR WERE YOU BORN IF YOU DON'T MIND. ? not51? Or what Chinese horoscope if you don't wish to masticate the meal before ninnies digest it?

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 13 Feb 06
    • 10:40 pm

    What an extraordinary world these people have imagined for themselves!!! WTH, it may be helpful for you to think of the following. Criminals, are fully aware that all phones especially cell phones are completely compromised. They are universally aware that the government can and does spy on people through these. Most are also fuklly aware that this eavesdropping is these days complete, and electronically monitored, with actual programs designed to weed out vast quantities of information. There is far more information than is Overtly being put to use, but they are able to select very much at will. Small time crooks …

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 13 Feb 06
    • 10:43 pm

    Or the hold with the slaves, for you would make a lousy slave. You'd want too much variety of food, you have already been spoiled an pampered, will expect something better and will thus not easily be satisfied. They will have no use of you any more than of dissidents like the rabbit.

    Posted to FBI, DoD, NSA: All Spying on You
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 4:51 am

    Rabbit saw an article a while back which suggested that the Oil company execs threatened the Taliban with invasion if they didn't go along with the pipeline on their terms. The Taliban refused, shortly thereafter, invasion. The names and connections were all there. If anyone cares the rabbit will search for it, but since there are no morons present the rest can probably take it at face value anyway. I don't think that Afghanistan was invaded soley for this reason, any more than it was invaded especially to reinvigorate the Heroin trade which has always been a speciality for official US …

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 4:52 am

    Jay DeCline Rabbit addresses you. Since you had the temerity to pop in like a little Jay Wren and post your little Zionist homily at the start. Of course you were right , yes it is all the Israelis fault, in some ways, and it's Britain's in others and the USA's fault in yet other ways. Since the Pallestinians were cheated, invaded, murdered and still are being murdered and dispossessed, since there are far more of them as innocent victims of Israeli aggression than there are innocent Israeli victims of Pallestinian violence. Oh but Jay hasn't time to read things like …

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 5:10 am

    Just because you are prepared to kill for a cause, big deal, the other guy is dying for his cause adding his own name to the list of dead as a final cry for justice. Always remembering that it is not for religion that suicide bombers die. It has always been for land. Justice over land. NOT religion, that is part of the great tapestry of LIES.

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 5:18 am

    Oh and Wiley, there is am explosion of Heroin on the streets, here in Oz and in Europe too. No doubt it is their too. Much goes to Russia. It is cheap, the cheapest and most assesible drug in most places. No kidding the market is awash in Heroin and has been for a few years. It is not only cheap, the purity is MUCH higher than ever before. Obviously so cheap it is being sold with less need to cut it to make a profit down the food chain. Quite a few overdoses to start with from people not being …

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 5:20 am

    AND.... yes it is all Afghani HEROIN! Rabbit would rather see them go back to their traditional Hashish instead, . mmmmmm, Afghani Hash................^^.........

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 1:28 am

    Major Major, if people skip or read over my posts that is their business. As you will notice Rabbit is in a different timezone and thus is invariably reading back down the list and in this case coming in late. If you read what is posted rather than as you intimate, skimming or skipping them, you would find that some are specifically for individuals anyway and overall not so long. Rabbit for example hardly ever bothers with posting merely for some small correction. Briefness is not always just a matter of being short though Major. Rabbit thanks you for that small …

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 1:31 am

    Other than that, Rabbit heartily disgree with the contention that globalisation is yet dead in the water. we are currently in the throes of the final act, the result of which is at least intended to be a Global World Order. Peak Oil is but a toll being manipulated for these ends too. Brief enough?

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 1:32 am

    Actually meant Tool, but Toll works kinda right also.

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 1:33 am

    Ooh.......... Wiley we both came together then. That was fun.

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 10:24 pm

    Major, I just did.

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 10:25 pm

    Must say though, whilst your posts are refreshingly short ,always, half of them on average involve asking others to alter their style of posting to suit yourself. Not a control freak or anything by any chance?

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 5:55 am

    Major, old boy, when you have been elected as representative of others it is likely someone else will let the rabbit know, in the meantime your presumptions are showing. Your scattershot diatribe and linguistic babble, ignoring the specifics of anything, some of which was simple and directed at your own remarks, is designed to do lord only knows what. Rabbit for one is generally wary of according to himself the role of group spokesman, preferring to say what he knows, believes or just sharing a few views with friends. Tolerance is the order as much as possible and Major has always …

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 9:40 pm

    It is not ideology. It is a moral relativism. You are reacting out of ideology, and it isn't Rabbit's fault if you can't raise your point of view beyond that to see the two people in reversed positions. Would it make any difference to you Major, if the Iraqi Pilot was bombing your neighborhood and you or your son was starpping the explosives on to take out as many of him and his supporters you could? They are both deliberately killing civilians, just that one of them has the honour to at least stake his own life on the act as …

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 4:46 am

    How incredible to see our brethren contorting themselves to the extent they can justify "pre-emptive wars" against weak and unthreatening nations who just happen to be sitting on a heap of Oil. They justify even the use of WMD's and torture against all comers in order to extract "Confessions", which might somehow help make them feel safer. They do it and call themselves bringers of democracy. They call themselves the victims. Yes there are such afflicted with denial in Oz too, a vocal minority, with all the backing of the same compliant press. We have a few more truthful media sources …

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 5:27 am

    Anyway Major Despite individual nuances we are not of much different ideology or comprehension of the reality which is being avoided by those afflicted, as you so tactfully put it. Rabbit's posting formats and styles are not like others, but have been defended already in their place. He is not alone in this, other unique and individual souls are represented by their own styles and lengths of posts, and subject for that matter. Some get along as friends whilst others are cordial allies, and yet others may be antagonistic allies, like a certain rock like personage who shall remain nameless lest …

    Posted to Hamas: Sharon's Legacy?
    • 20 Jan 06
    • 11:38 am

    No dimwit, that's Bush who's carrying on like a Dictator. Chavez is popular, successful and humane. What have you got to show for yourselves? The first nation in history to institutionalise torture, a rogue state of WMD users and extremes of wealth and poverty. Wake up and smell the shit Jay Jay, you're living in it. Viva Hugo Chavez.! He is a real Man. A real leader. He has a bigger dick than Dubya too probably.

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 20 Jan 06
    • 12:22 pm

    What was that worm? Is the hook in your nook? Does it hurt where you poop? Then you'd better not look I'm not a fish but a CHOOK.

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 20 Jan 06
    • 12:33 pm

    Anyway Jay Rabbit would just like to say, he is somewhat glad for you. You are a good troll, and the rabbit doesn't always show much kindness to you. Now that we are alone here, Rabbit extends his gratitude for gracing the pages of ITT with your fine antics. You see it had not occurred to the rabbit that there could be anything worse than Jay, but since meeting Tiny Shrew, it is obvious that there are whole categories of moronic of which the rabbit had been blissfully unaware. Tiny Shrew is furthermore, almost the opposite of Jay in the way …

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 9:00 pm

    Heh Tiny Shrew, Rabbit is quite content living here in Australia, thanks. Since it is no where nera as fucked up as America, I am not feeling too inclined to want to move just now, but have thought about it. Maybe if America attacks them I just might decide to go over. It would be similar to fighting the Fascists in Spain. Rabbit doesn't hate America per se. Rabbit hates what America has become, and he hates most everything America is doing. But then so do most people these days, Tiny Shrew.

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 9:11 pm

    Sorry Scorpy, my dear little prodigal Troll. Rabbit does not state right up front he knows nothing about economics. Rabbit has before demonstrated he knows more about economics than the Scorpy, who is full of theory and imaginary ideas backed by fantasy about the real world Scorpy seems a bit put out that Venezuala has so much oil and gas. This is obviously a major insult to Americans who believe all the worlds oil and gas is theirs. To be so churlish as to carry on about them reaping benefits from this oil and gas is very American and also disgustingly …

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 9:14 pm

    Oh and Scorpy What are you blathering about Venezuala not being able to pay it's bills? Have you forgotten that you are living in the USA? Does Scorpy know what deficit means? Does Scorpy know what a fiat currency is?

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 9:24 pm

    Congratulations Wiley You have chosen a Troll. Rabbit would not have chosen it for you, it is broken after all. But Tiny Shrew is Wiley's troll. This means you must pay special attention to your troll, and if anyone is being especially mean to it you may have to stand up for it's rights. These rights are the right to be wacked by sensible and informed people. The right to spout any and all ridiculous drivel. and the right to be a Troll. Hooray for Wiley, and Hooray for Rabbit whose own Prodigal troll, Scorpy is returned. How we love the …

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 12:49 am

    Can we just give the Troll litle tidbits Wiley? Whilst it is an odd and stunted one, is it truly liberal to starve it to death? Rabbit is reading about "Supply Side Jesus" Thank You, and it would seem consistent with his way. Which is the point. Of course ignoring what it is saying, as far as oodles of links, like baby burps bubbling to the surface, is only common sense. Clearly it has a list of sources it imagines are likely to irritate others here, and is posting these ad-hoc and without regard to context or reason. These, if anybody …

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 2:22 am

    Rabbit met a Chilean in his factory recently. It should be borne in mind that Rabbit sells Kayaks from his factory, not just through wholesale. Having sold about 200 alone from the factory direct to the public, you can imagine how many people come wandering through Rabbit's small factory, mostly on Saturday's but pretty much all year round. With the mild Perth Climate, we can do such sports all year round. The friendly rabbit almost always strikes up a conversation and being an intense Aries this can be turned to his ends within twenty minutes most, including selling a Kayak to …

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 2:26 am

    OK Wiley. It's your Troll, (sounds good doesn't it?), if you think that's best. Rabbit can see the point of what you say and agree it has been far too disruptive for what little value has been obtained. There have been some laughs though. Lot's of LOL's in fact. Tiny Shrew wouldn't exist in Venezuala. It takes a certain kind of culture and a deal of technology to produce someone like Tiny Shrew.

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 2:34 am

    You Witch you. Eat them! ....................^^................... This is probably not far different from what will probably eventuate.

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 4:44 am

    No way Rocco Since America decided to conquer the world, then America became the business of the wider world. Our culture is a satellite of yours thanks to Television and Movies and the same media ownership to al;arge extent. Our government exists as a part of US foreign Policy, it is completely subservient to the US Junta. This actually gives me and many others including the Canadians, The Brits and just about anybody affected by an awesomely aggressive foreign policy. That certainly includes the Iraqis. As for how well Rabbit knows what is going on, there is a thing called the …

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 4:52 am

    Hi Kuya Rabbit is of similar mind to you about Venezuala and Chavez. I applaud what he is trying to do, and also think that despite many inherited problems they are in a fairly good position to go forward. The main obstacle I fear for them is US interference, or should I say more. Another assasination attempt, stirring up and arming the opposition the usual tools of Imperialism. The fact that the US is tied up in two wars, and maybe soon four wars, is no guarantee the maniacs won't start another war in South America. Kuya I think you are …

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 4:56 am

    I also fear that Vanity and pride may be Chavez' achiles heel. Power corrupts and all that. There is always a danger of concentrating power in too few hands, but it is also an old truth that committees are no way to get serious work done. Time will tell, but certainly there is no excuse for the ranting and threatening and scaremongering being directed at Venezuala or the other members of the Bolivarian Revolution. Up the revolution. Down with Imperialist Fascist Pigs.

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 11:05 pm

    Wiley maybe it is calling for LOL LOLs? You know. lollies?

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 29 Jan 06
    • 12:53 am

    Hi all. Scorpy you are a crack up as usual. To mention those other issues is rubbing salt in the wounds. The evil NWO government fronts we have been forced to endure by the many who are decieved and dumbfounded by the TV and compliant media. Read propaganda organs. But it proves nothing except our enemies are defined within certain juntas, which seem to control the overarching political structures in the enforoced (by the media) two party systems in each case. This bit is hilarious though and Rabbit shouts HOORAY for the Scorpy he has done it again, reduced so much …

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 29 Jan 06
    • 1:30 am

    In return Rabbit offers a song called Lies. Funny Song about Iraq. Hear it to the end, it starts to hurt a bit then gets suddenly funny, somehow. Maybe Rabbit has a sick sense of humour. Rabbit suggests that this is the most concise and honest account of the Modern History of the Middle East from an international perspective. Get at least this much understanding under your belt before even suggesting you have any ideas worth repeating on any forum.

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 29 Jan 06
    • 10:42 pm

    That's alright Wiley. This bit alone, is a brightly shining and rare gem. The primary issue, I think, for me as an American, is that I dont think the U.S. government should be telling world leaders how to run their countries, especially when those leaders were popularly elected in a fair election. By all means learn about Chavez and Simon Bolivar. Rabbit doesn't see any need to know more about either that what unfolds. They shall be judged "by their words and by their actions" as that eminent Gnostic Jesus of Nazareth said. In the end, the reality of what Chavez …

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 04 Feb 06
    • 5:36 am

    Rocco has strange tastes. Neveretheless Wiley, Rabbit feels that you have done good work with the broken troll, and you have certainly qualified for a better troll whenever one pops up. You should however be sure Rocco will care for Tiny Shrew, he doesn't seem overly Empathic if you know what I mean. Not that one can truly empathise with a Moron or a Troll, who could? but just empathising with the suffering, fear and confusion which belongs to a fearful and reactive creature, like a Tiny Shrew. Don't sell your troll short. Rocco can always find his own, and besides …

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 10:23 pm

    The Rock is an Aquarius.

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 11 Feb 06
    • 4:51 am

    Heh Wiley Despite trhe hopper being less than evryday type active in Cyberoz, yet it is the home ground of he who hops. Don't go further than you are within a day or two's call of the Field. Rabbit cares too much for the Witch to lose contact, yet he understands the need to move on and or past such as these fields. Be not lost to your friend the Rabbit, for he loves both Wiley and the handgun of the rock of the lord.

    Posted to No Discounted Transit for Oil
    • 20 Jan 06
    • 11:27 am

    Like Rocco said. You are all carrying on like bloodthirsty Romans. You especially Tiny Shrew. Listen to yourself, and yet you were all love and flowers the other day. 1) All executions are on pay-per view (Saturday night). #2) The pay-per view show would have (2) or (3) executions. #3) There would be various methods of executions. Such as slowing dropping the scumbag in a tank full of alligators ... or put them in a pit full of rattlesnakes and cobras. And there would be other methods, but not leathel injection. #4) The victims family would be given the chance to …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 4:59 am

    Busy Rabbit, hops by, Rocco so you were kidding us with your I am God routine? If thou knowest not how to do HTML then you do not hold the keys to the world of the ITT web. You are not the messiah, "you are a naughty little boy!" instead. Other than that merry wacking of the trolls Lume, Rocco and Kuya too ya. Rabbit shall be by soon. Don't be frightened little Trolls he will just watch without wacking a bit. Sure that Lume and Rocco can wreak havoc upon any combinations of WTH, InHisMind and Tiny Shrew. Cheers for …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 5:02 am

    BTW there is another hopper about and he is a Frog. Wonder what he will make of our Trio of Trolls. If any of you trolls prefer to be called morons instead let the rabbit know he is anxious to not offend your wee heads.

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 6:48 pm

    That means there are too many elephants in the living room for him to ignore any more, and he's out of here, LB has seen it before.

    ....................................................................DENIAL......................................................................

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 7:23 pm

    That was a pretty one. Heh, Rocco. A hint which is much useful. Left click on VIEW on your menu top of page left. Then Left click on SOURCE. Have a look at the relevant part of the page for any HTML you notice on the page, like the Denial above. You'll see the language of Electrons displayed, and the familiar little In <> and out gates. The source has the blueprint for the page basically, which the electrons use for choreographing their efforts in tune with our orders.

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 7:25 pm

    WTH. Please read some of the stuff which people give to you to read. You would enjoy being more informed Rabbit is sure of it. It cannot be fun having nothing to throw back at anyone but to project your own limitations. Information is the key to being informed. How you interpret that information is what differences of oppinion are really about. You are not arguing differences of opinion in the way rational people do. You spend all your time denying FACTS which contradict your opinions, rather than truthfully dacing the issues and relating them to yourself. Only by looking at …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 7:26 pm

    To admit that the Government itself somehow has become the enemy, is surely a huge paradigm shift for someone who has not had the benefit of watching the process of corruption with open eyes for decades. The amazing thing though is that if once you accept this, then all your old beliefs about what is right and wrong, what is and isn't, can be accomodated again. Instead today you are trying to defend an illegal, injustified attack on one sovereign nation and you are ready to condone more of the same. You are arguing in justification for TORTURE and the use …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 12:02 am

    WTH says a funny thing: However, this is one where obviously I win my point (if it matters). If three or four of us cannot come to a meeting of the minds, certainly two houses of Congress, the White House and Supreme Court never will. As it happens many more of us than three or four are able to come to agreements on things, dear boy, just because you are not one of them doesn't negate the example. There will always be a minority who can never agree with something. The main thing is that you are a minority and …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 5:10 am

    Nah. Rabbit has tried all manner of argument with WTH and Scorpy and due to long experience with them am content just to wack them from time to time, point out their follies as the urge strikes and just genreally have a good time. Now as you will and may have already noticed Rabbit has his bits to offer from time to time, and these are not unappreciated as a rule, but keeping the trolls and morons herded and in line is also a job and someone has to do it. Eventually you'll probably say to Rabbit that he is actually …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 6:02 am

    Rocco, put simply, the Socratic Method of Argument is really the Rabbit's normal form of debate. The problem inherant in the method is soon to be seen. The method of Socrates is a search for the underlying hypotheses or assumptions which shape one's opinions, and to determine the consistency of these with their beliefs. All very well if you have someone who will answer questions even when the answer doesn't suit them, with such people, by a process of logical progression one can define facts, and apply them reptrospectively to their stated opinions for example, but the problem arises when we …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 9:28 pm

    That's OK Rocco, Rabbit too is a prick. In fact he is the sharpest prick on the bush. The water Carrier eh? Good, was worried for a Leo. They can get too hung up by independant Alpha's. Rams. RamRabbit. I know what you mean about agreeing being uninteresting, but stick around you might get a surprise or two. Aquarians do need to work at keeping the mind open, often falling into the trap of inertia having once made the effort to seek out the answers. Consider Rabbit as a sort of small magic creature who takes care of little house keeping …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 9:37 pm

    I haven't read all yet, and am in a hurry. I can see WTH has still never paid enough attention to know Lume is not a Sheila. Since the last post was so obvious I feel obliged to point it out. I can't stand the suspense waiting for the penny to drop. Now that it has WTH, how about you pay attention to the discussions you are involved in? This is six months or more old!

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 11:23 pm

    .............^^......... LOL

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 1:14 am

    Rocco might like to re-phrase an earlier remark referring to the rabbit as a Troll, however indirectly that might have been meant. The adoption of a superior tone, without any just precursor for such an assumption, is hardly enough to allow someone who has begun with blatant "attempted" sleight of hand, oh great web master, to make disparaging remarks. You may poke the rabbit and make silly faces at it, but be assured the rabbit is not only un troll like, the rabbit bites. The following is prefaced with the understanding that Rabbit is an Gnostic. He has always been an …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 1:14 am

    Just as you cannot teach me Calculus in a day or a week, nor can you learn enough about Astrology from reading maybe a few articles about it, or from observing the way the pop culture abuses the concept for instant gratification, to be seen in the Stars columns and radio segments. The primary misunderstanding is that the Science of Astrology is somehow about predicting things. Or that it is about the stars or planets "affecting" people. It is neither. Rabbit was given quite incontrovertible proof when he was at his most sceptical that there was indeed something very significant and …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 1:25 am

    Upon re-reading his post, it occurs to the rabbit, in his unconscious humility, and simple nature he has written in such a way as to invite a response questioning his self described enlightenment. So to forestall such frippery and to answer the matter for sure: YES The Rabbit knows everything. Absolutely everything there is to know. Luckily he is too busy just dealing with one or two of these things at a time, that the whole world does not suffer his interference, for Rabbit loves to fix things and fiddle with them too. You would too if you knew as much …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 2:59 am

    The direction in which Physics is now takling our understanding, is furthermore quite supportive of the whole concept of Astrology, and of many previously "Twilight Zone stuff" like Ghosties Poltergeists Demons and ETs. What was wacky yesterday becomes ordinary by the next morning. Cabbie, the fact that the powers which seem o be directing the ground puppet show, and their koolaid drinking sheeple enablers, are into the whole end times paradigm, makes it the dominant paradigm for us all, by the same Physics. (and occultic understanding for what it's worth.) We need a major shift in humanity on a vast scale …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 7:43 am

    Rabbit didn't see that Rocco was under the rock their so to speak. Between couple of quick postings he popped up. The following is the source of my ire, mild and tongue in cheek as it was. Directed as it was to I, Rabbit. Despite my remarks, I place no preconception on any troll, regular, or in-between. Except, of course, you. Now to suggest that Rabbit takes himself seriously is a bit naif. This rabbit takes Rocco seriously enough. This is not to say he takes the Rocco's proddings as anything but playful jest. Since we are allies, like it …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 8:41 am

    Rocco seriously though, Astrology is not a religion. Your reference to it as such is utterly ill-informed. You cannot actually offend anyone in the same sense by knocking it. It is like i said a simple correlation exercise. I have no time for religious dogma. None at all. Either it is scientific, in that it has been developed via observation and tested to show it's efficacy, or it hasn't, in which case it is faith based and religious dogma. This is a broad brush, but the point is that you must cease all reference to a field about which you know …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 8:45 am

    By the way you certainly seem to conform to an Aquarian mindset.

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 1:05 pm

    Now who is taking someone too seriously? All this and an American too could obviously only be meant in jest for the rabbit in company of Americans for whom he has a significant respect. Rocco your presumptions are showing again. To tell me that much about the method behind your madness You are presuming Rabbit is telling you anything which was in any way secret, when in fact he told you in exasperation what should have been obvious to anyone actually paying attention. Methinks someone is in love with his own words, but it is not the rabbit. You assume …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 1:10 pm

    The Earth is a Living Entity The Electric Universe theory is going to turn all human science on end by the way, and it seems to be the new paradigm in this regard. Iron Sun is quite a good argument too.

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 1:44 am

    I was waiting for something as disengenuous as this Didnt you initially think I was a Leo? If my posts are so transparently Aquarian, why the initial mix-up? Again, I know nothing of astrology, so perhaps Leos and Aquarians are peas in a pod. Or perhaps its all conjecture and happenstance. So hard to know these things Rabbit asked if you were a Leo, because certain things about you could have been interpreted as such, but this was to at least rule such a possibility out, not because Rabbit thought you were any such thing. Rabbit 's views are trenchant …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 1:51 am

    Knowing that both the Witch and the Rabbit are Aries, it is easy to see the correlations in our styles of argument, and especially our temperaments. A much more knowledgeable person (about Astrology) would in fact be able to detect that Wiley and I are Aries, of that I am certain. We are one of the most unambiguous signs there is. There is also elemental astrology which is older and tends to have a profound impact on both types. But the Stars, the signs themselves have no more impact on the players, the souls, than the names of animals eventually have …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 1:58 am

    Oh and by the way. Anybody with a modicum of knowledge about astrology would give up talking about ego just knowing the subject is an Aries. The following is obviously tongue in cheek but most funny if one knows the actual characteristics normally attributed to each. Here is Rabbit: Aries: (Mar 20th - April 18th) You are pioneer type and think most people are dickheads. You are quick to reprimand, impatient and scornful of advice. You do nothing but piss off everyone you come into contact with. Basically you are a prick. How about this? Aquarius: (Jan 21st - Feb …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 2:12 am

    I know what the biggest difference with us is Rocco. It is that Rabbit takes the world too seriously, and you don't take it seriously enough. Seen each from the other's perspective of course. Reflecting upon Tookie's execution, it occurs to Rabbit that the grass and trees have already grown over his grave,metaphorically speaking, and his memory would have a better chance if it was imortalised in Blues. (Oh what a good rabbit, getting back on topic like that.)

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 9:21 pm

    Isn't it nice to have a nemesis? Rabbit would not know for he has no such thing. Rabbit would rather not talk about Astrology for he is hardly qualified or particularly interested. However it is his habit to make correction to assumptions when he comes across any which are clearly unsupported. Minor enough an issue as it is, any opinion, if not based upon secure facts; knowledge of what the actual contentions of Astrolgy are: is wasted and since you are meant to be among the enlightened, Rabbit see's it as his duty to correct the misunderstanding. As for taking things …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 10:20 pm

    The thing about Karma is that the soul you are become, via successive journeys is who you are when born. That is to say we are not all equal when we are born. This is not even a natural law, it is a man made and completely trite slogan. "We are all equal when we are born", is the most ridiculous thing Rabbit ever heard. We are not equal. Some are born carrying a massive Karmic Debt, for past mistakes, or more or less issues to deal with in different areas of spiritual enlightenment. Some are born with intellect, or intuition …

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 10:24 pm

    Perceptive Fish knows the rabbit's qualifiers. Yes, a bit. The wasteful comes form it feeling like a loose end when Rabbit has yet to return to Don's campfire and finish a few things promised. The above relates to the stuff we were talking about with John Lear, the Moon and Antenna specifially. Consider the sense of Astrology if the antenna thing was true.?

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 1:18 am

    The shit has been average of late, but then suddenly comes three different varieties of OK and even found a little surprise stash in the middle of it from way back. Hi Lume...

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 5:14 am

    We can only hope Rocco. The thing Rabbit finds most charming about you, is that you are always polite enough to say farewell in this way. It is neat and Rabbit's appreciate neat things. Not that they are good at making or keeping things neat. Speaking as a creature which knows everything, you know almost everything already too so it'll be clear some day soon. Cheers Rocco. Watch out for the Frog, who is also hopping about. Wonder what kind of Karma was Tookie's when he came into this dimension in time?

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 5:24 am

    Rocco the presumptuous rabbit takes the liberty of wishing you and the "large inanimate objects" well in your relationship or hope you are getting over it if you've begun to spurn their advances.

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 10:35 pm

    Yeh. Bid Daddy.............................god Big Mother................................earth Big Brother..................................will fuck them both

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 09 Feb 06
    • 8:04 am

    Bad Rabbit washed his mouth out with soap...........................^^................................ Bye Bye Tookie.............................. bad old chookie.

    Posted to Reflections on Tookie's Execution
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 11:52 am

    Not bad Lakshmi As for the "Heroes" who are invading a sovereign nation on orders from the sock puppet Bush on behalf of the Globalists................ glad to see a few could get a book deal out of it. Sure though it's lucky that the Iraqis are sub human and their feelings, freedom and honor are not as important as the American Cannon Fodder who happened to survive the actual assault and occupation. Imagine how the stories of the Iraqis would sound in few years if they ever get to write their stories?

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 3:32 am

    Stupid lost post...growl... Rabbit's cannot be stopped, you know that by now Rocco. This is but a stage where we all dance and act, for an audience, let it never be forgot these forums are public, and thus how we perform, how convincing our case and our face, is adjusged on a highjer plane, or a different one to that which we inhabit. It is each actors lot to play himself, and thus if he is a moron then let him be an excellent moron, if it be a Shill then let it be a shiny and clever shill, and excellent …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 3:38 am

    Tiny Shrew asks: QUESTION: Would a racist pay the tuition for an African-American child to attend a private school? Answer: Yes, and then the racist would make a point of telling people about it everytime they were called a racist. The same goes for talking about your alleged friends. They sound like your trophies. Lots of middle class racists make a point of having some "Racial", friends. They like to tell us all about it.

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 10:01 pm

    Goodness me the rabbit looks startled,...............^^............. was that... was that Thinky? Rabbit thought he saw Thinky back up the thread. Thinky was happy and quite well rested too. He is somewhat healthier though there still appears to be a lot of ditto clogging up his thinking. His name could turn out to be prophetic after all. Hello Thinky. Hooray for your return, the most pleasant moron Rabbit has met on this site. It has been said to Rabbit that Scorpy has also shown his head on another thread. Hail Hail the gangs all here........ Just a wee correction though Think. MOST …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 12:23 am

    Listen to Kingboy for he speaks the truth simply and clearly. So too is the view from Oz, looking inward upon your DemRep and ConLib Scuzz. The only difference to Rabbit seems to be, that each party acts like the other when in power, reverting to form upon being in opposition. The biggest differences between how they both want to or do run the country, seems to be in the colour of the curtains and the carpet in the house. They both pander to the same people, co-incidentally the same people who pay them obscene amounts of money to get elected …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 12:39 am

    WTH All your apparently reasonable argument still falls down at the outset. It is generally accepted he is a ruthless killer of thousands, etc. It is accepted, but WTH the USA and both those presidents you mention supported Saddam Hussein, encouraged and Armed him while he was doing those things. Therefore it is an entirely moot point that Hussein was so bad, the only thing America should have done about it was to stop supporting him, or ideally never to have done so in the first place. You also are gilding the lilly a bit by blaming the media, for …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 1:19 am

    Rocco Rabbit has a strict rule of not allowing his foot to be sucked. Even subtly telling Rabbit what a wonderful rabbit he is, by suggesting he should be proud or enaged in self adulation, is sort of subtly suggesting you admire him so. Trust the hopper, he is neither handsome or clever enough, or successful enough to be too proud. The nature of Aries and Rabbits does tend to make issues of ego redundant. We are irreppresible. It is pleasing to the rabbit that you take a moment to poke at him with the stick in the midst of what …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 1:29 am

    WTH as usual full of shit. Until 9/11, I doubt that any president would have dared a preemptive strike. As I said in my previous post, I can accept acting out of fear rather than only for oil. Then explain why Iraq was attacked when they had NOTHING to do with 911 and were not a threat? To accept the action taken one must believe this war is the real thing I do. (Not on a nation or two, but against radical Islam.) Whether that is the only motive is debatable, but whatever motives are involved we cannot walk …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 2:15 am

    I don't know about anyone else but TINY SHREW is breaking Rabbit's heart. She is posting all these terrible things, which make the rabbit so sad. AS IF ANYBODY GIVES A CRAP! TINY SHREW When did you notice anybody on this thread, nay this site, ever express any support for Democraps? How often have you heard Michael Moore's name mentioned? You Shrew are through and through a looney toon A caricature in craziness, a ranting dancing poon You gabble and cackle like a mad old crone But nothing you say is worth an old bone Nothing to do but ranting masturbating …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 2:29 am

    It's a bummer isn't it Wiley? WTH is far and away the most promising moron ever to come this way, often one feels he is on the edge of a major discovery......... like a new idea. Always he retreats into the Shell of moronity and ....you know the rest. The denial is so common and yet the sheer

    SCALE
    of it is preposterous every time it is met in a new face, or as in WTH's case, everytime he pulls the bucket of denial down over his head again. The denial, the ability to decieve oneself is legend, it is beyond …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 10:16 pm

    Pete Rabbit meant to apologise for suggesting that Pete had broken the troll. Rabbit saw what you meant, it was already broken from the start. In fact the rabbit withdraws his offer to the troll, to be his own. Since Scorpy is apparently lurking again Rabbit feels that on balance Scorpy is a more fun troll than Tiny Shrew, who does seem to have succumbed to an overdose of The Koolaid, and is no longer able to get over the one thought which was last in it's head. This was probably around the last election from the sound of it. WTH

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 10:17 pm

    WTH for you to say you don't care how seriously you are taken is a puzzle. Why then do you post? I mean by the end of the day you are painting yourself as some sort of SuperTroll. You have specifically stated that you will never change your mind about anything. You have repeatedly said nothing can ever be known to be a fact. You now inform us you are not the least bit concerned that everybody except a couple of patent idiots considers you to be foolish and stupid. Every sentence you wrote was it's own study in lameness, but …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 10:23 pm

    Maybe Rocky is better? Nah, Rabbit is happy to be a nemesis, just not a ghost. You're right about the thread breaking though, and to show that the rabbit is responsible too, here is an on track comment which occured to me a while ago. "[T]he men who go to war and live are spared for the single purpose of spreading the bad news when they return, the bad news about the way war is fought and why, and by whom for whom." Is that maybe another good reason for them to be poisoned with DU to ensure they are …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 10:27 pm

    Well in a superficial sort of way....... with an agenda attached too......... umm.... Well it can't be taken down, and it is too late for anyone else to accuse the rabbit of what he has now confessed to as well. hee hee.........................sneaky old rabbit..............^^........... (Rabbit will do his ears, they are his, they are original and they mean something too. They are a secret code. Rocco can jab Rabbit a bit in return if it amuses him.)

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 10:34 pm

    WTH One last parting wack. You have actually had the temerity to claim Saddam's attacks on Iran, which were supported and assisted and supplied by USA, is something which justifies attacking Hussein. The thing about this which is just Flabbergasting, the rabbit is FLABBERGASTED, (He has never been this before), that you could at the same time, justify attacking Iran, with Nuclear Weapons. You're a F**king Wacko my lad, a full blown Holocaust Syndrome struck soon to be stone cold statue.

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 8:48 am

    "oooh, but Wiley, the evil Muslims murdered almost 3000 innocent Americans on 911 (whine, whine moan), and since each Christian American is worth at least 100 Muslims, and all nearly 3000 victims of 911 were honorary Christians, then at a conservative estimate of 150,000 of their innocent civilians they owe us at least anothjer 150,000 before we've levelled the score. Then after that hell, we might as well go for broke, see how high we can get the score." There's Hitler to beat yet, and Stalin. That's tough competition, but the USA is now a contender thanks to the warmongers in …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 8:49 am

    You know what Rabbit means? Rather than remembering Hitler or Stalin, individual men, the world will probably refer to America, the great and abominable Whore of Babylon.

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 11:15 am

    The rabbit thinks you ride a shiny horse and swing a fair sword stroke too. Never would he swing at an allie, except in jest. Yet if you could zap the broken troll we'd love to see it. Pending that we shall meet upon the range, and this too is Rabbit's final, Postcard from the Front. gratuitous rabbitisms........ .......................................^^...................

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 4:46 am

    You too are featured in several books and more than a few films......Tiny Shrew..............But the Rabbit is far too polite to mention them publically.. Rabbit is definately not a LIberal Either Tiny Shrew. Rabbit is an Anarcho Socialist as it happens, but you would not be expected to be able to understand that so let's just say he is a rabbit, and thus has no political affiliations or preferences, except an absence of them all.

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 6:31 pm

    Don't ask these idiots questions Canuck. the answers such as they give any, are bound to confuse you even more. Go have a look at this thread to see more of them in action. One of them has just raised 911 as being justification for attacking Iraq again. They are the confused ones, they just haven't realised it yet.

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 11:55 pm

    Canuck, there is another Canadian, Dave hereabouts. He will probably take you under his gentle Monkey Fish Wings. His curiosity knows no bounds but he doesn't seem too confused, so may be of assistance. What you say of Canada is about on a par with Oz, it is from thence the rabbit hails. We are in bad shape too, but not as bad as the USA. Also it seems like if it can be stopped in the USA it will wither and die here in Oz too. There are other Americans on this site as well and like Wiley they are …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 5:30 am

    Pistol Pete Thankyou. Rabbit did not like saying the s..... word. He wouldn't even call a moron that, preffering to shorten it to stink or maybe just smell. As for the Jingle of Pistol Pete, Rabbit never heard of it, but.......................... The mascot? Pete Maravich

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 8:39 am

    Otherwise there is a character called "Postman Pat" in Oz, which is originally "Postmand Per" in Denamark. Maybe the version in the US of A is called "Pistol Pete"? In which case is the jingle something like this. Pistol Pete, Pistol Pete, Pistol Pete and his little shooting piece...... (The Danish version has a little pussy cat BTW.) Cheers for a few days to you both..............^^............. He shall hop off into the bush for a few days and returns on Saturday, down here. Which is probably friday down there I guess. Wiley you may have to deal with one of the …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 11:16 pm

    Canuck Just quick am in a hurry. Oz is indeed the great southern land. Port Arthur was a transparent false patsy attack designed to give an excuse to have a massive tightening of gun laws. Not banned altogether but much more controlled. The result? Lots of country people especially realised something stinks and many more illegal firearms have become the norm. Many who would never have thought of owning illegal firearms thought it seemed like a good time to change. Rabbit personally got rid of all categories, legal and otherwise, when seeing the writing on the wall. If I need one, …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 12:04 am

    Port Arthur Rabbit knows a number of people personally and can confirm a number of major details in the story including the attempted set up of Terry Hill the Gun dealer, who did not supply the weapons to Bryant despite a concerted government effort to set him up including planting evidence. There is a small group who are working hard tp expose the full truth of Port Arthur and there are really no questions left unaswered as far as who exactly did it and how. The guy who did the shooting was AWESOME in his robot like efficiency. No …

    Posted to Postcards From the Front
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 11:59 am

    Skullcrusher The Jay Bird is a complete ignoramus, posing, small minded Nazi apologist for anything which makes him feel superior to anyone who isn't a white American Sheep Brained twit. In short he is a Troll, and a most uncommonly stupid one at that. Just a heads up. As if being enlisted once made him a man. Being a worm at heart Jay expects to get a medal at least once a year because someone American once faught some Nazi's. Of course he is blind to the fact that he is today one of the Nazis!

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 12:08 pm

    Shades of Knight, may Rabbit call you SOK? (Sorry) Just repeating Jay DeCline is the lowest common denominator on ITT. Which means his opinions are the lowest cast and most lard brained official ditto in circulation. Jay is a Moron, although to show some appreciation of his incredible efforts in self insemination, we have generally awarded him the title of Troll, and he is thus an honorary Troll. You are welcome to beat the twerp about his soft and fluffy head, and the sites squatters like rabbit and others will be happy to cheer you on. In truth he has absorbed …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 12:21 pm

    Since Jay hasn't really clarified his position on the whole scene, the helpful rabbit shall do so for him.. Jay Bird is 100% in favour of anything which makes him feel safer from all the terrible Muslim Extremists and Islamic Fundamentalists who are crawling over each other to get across the border and closer to his delusional world of make believe where George Bush is the King of the castle, and Jay Jay is the Queen.... Oh and he is very, very wise too, he has a blog which explains this very clearly. He is so wise that he is his …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 12:26 pm

    Oops, feisty and furious Rabbit has erred. Jay links to his site but posts here instead. What Rabbit meant when he posted his words. Was that Jay thinks truth grows out of a turd..

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 9:59 pm

    Well Jay Bird, you have done it again you facsist little ponce. Crapped all over your shoes again. I guess you'll just chalk this one up to another great Victory for the man of all seasons, yourself, Jay DeCline. Scuttle off to a right wing circle jerk and boast about what a super hero you were again. Anyone notice that most of what he ends up going on about is his right to be heard? His right to spout dribble and never prove a word. Jay is right, Jay is smart, Jay opens his mouth and out comes a fart. Talking …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 10:19 pm

    Hi Beowulf, glad to see the true patriots and real men standing against the scumbag craven cowards who have have sold the USA for a few years more of comfortable delusions, and who think it is others' duty to die for whatever imagined cause the Important people like Jay, WTH or Scorpy deem right. It looks a lot like Scorpy is hiding out somewhere else these days though. Sadly Rabbit is without a personal troll anymore, making do as he must with sub-standard morons like Jay who is really Lumens' Troll. If WTH ever matures into a full troll, Rabbit has …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 5:55 am

    Thanks IRR soldier. There always seems to be someone ready to pounce and call ITT regularly on facts in their articles. Unless someone knowledgeable is able to correct it this can have consequences. It is like the Shills watch the site closely, which is what makes it interesting to poke about on by the way. Heh if the pentagon or it's shills feel a need as they have on occassion to interfere with issues on the site, then Rabbit is interested. Being a curious Rabbit and all. Jay has scarpered I think Dave. Let's see......JAY......JAY BIRD? Jay Jay? where are you …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 4:57 am

    Tell someone who cares Tiny Shrew. We all reckon Clinton was as big a NWO scumbag as George senior. Go look for those libs I think I here them rustling around under your bed. It must have been a disspointment to you when the Commies suddenly stopped hiding under there? Glad you've got something to occupy your small mind with. Proof that BUSH LIED Tiny, whiny, slimy, Shrew, why do you laugh like a Cock-a-too? Cackling like a nincompoop and babbling like a running drain.

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 5:00 am

    Oh and the Armed forces are having a hell of a time lowering the entrance requirements enough to fullfill recruitment quotas. They couldn't expand now without conscription anyway, Dubya has made such a cock up of it. There are also record numbers of Officers getting out, cutting their careeres short rather than serve under the current Insane Criminal Junta. Didn't you notice the mention of DU by Wiley, Tiny Shrew? Do YOU know what that is and how its use makes you a war criminal nation?

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 12:26 am

    Tiny Shrew The following is a piece for you. Read it and study it and see if you can understand the import.

    Heads roll at Veterans Administration Mushrooming depleted uranium (DU) scandal blamed. by Bob Nichols Considering the tons of depleted uranium used by the U.S., the Iraq war can truly be called a nuclear war. Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter charged Monday that the reason Veterans Affairs Secretary Anthony Principi stepped down earlier this month was the growing scandal surrounding the use of uranium munitions in the Iraq War. Writing in Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter No. 169, Arthur N. Bernklau, executive director …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 12:32 am

    Rabbit just read some of Tiny Shrew's babble.......... what a goose! This troll is definately broken. Let us go unto the King and beg his favour. Rocco, if indeed you are a web lord, prove it to us, do some magic. Something we cannot do, like eliminate the broken troll. If you do such a thing we will accept you as King and we will know that you are after all a great wizard.

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 9:52 am

    I started to make a joke but it made the rabbit sad, there really isn't anything funny about it. Did you read the Revenge of the Mutt People? It is an empathic piece though not complimentary to Bush, the Mutt people or the USA, but what else is new? It always amuses me when people mention that Oz isn't in very good shape either. As far as the politics go, this is true, but who says Rabbit is comparing Oz to anything? I've said it before, we have the slickest NWO government on the block. In some ways we are …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 10:04 am

    So there, Tiny Shrew. Csmelnix most certainly seems like a conservative to this rabbit. First he says things like this, Tina, Youre an idiot. Which is quite conservative after what has been said of you by others. You are way over and beyond an idiot, you are a gibberring, cackling, crack pot as well, but does CS mention this? No he merely conservatively points out you are an idiot, which you are. For CS to say of the three head honchos in the Junta; What they have done to and with Iraq and to our soldiers, from mismanagement, improperly equiping, …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 20 Jan 06
    • 4:52 am

    Jay Jay spouted. Jay spouted spew. ............................................As usual

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 22 Jan 06
    • 3:50 am

    Busy Rabbit just passing, drops a note and hops away. DU issues on the rise. Who wants to join the Army and be poisoned by DU? Getting drafted to be poisoned with DU?

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 22 Jan 06
    • 4:25 am

    Can't help it, there is one thing needs to be said. It is not necessary to compare our relative sizes, fitness or experiences to be completely sure that in the event of violence, which be it a last choice of most of us, is nonetheless not ruled out. Jay Jay and similar pansy, gutless gung ho types, would be bound to come off second best. You try constantly to intimate that we are the weaklings and you are somehow tougher, more likely to survive. Thus you miss the point altogether. We have the courage to stand up for what we are, …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 22 Jan 06
    • 4:25 am

    You are a coward Jay, and you have a complete coward for an Emperor. Your country has now earned the reputation, worldwide, of being a bullying coward. You are not respected, less and less feared for anything except ther sheer instability of your leadership and the potential for Nuclear Holocaust that you Bastards have held like a sword of Damacles over the heads of the world. Your Gung ho rhetoric is beyong pathetic. Listen to your own countrymen, they are telling you they can see it too. You bring shame on them, other Americans, you bring shame on manhood even. You …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 22 Jan 06
    • 4:45 am

    Do you know what first strike means in the REAL world Jay brain and other wackjobs? It is the one who started the fight. First strike, is something you actually try and provoke in the other person, if you intend to win with the best chance. Surely as a fighting man Jay should realise that? Oh yes, always smartest to let the other guy hit first, especially if he's bigger. Which in the rabbit's case has always been the case. Let the dimwitted clown work itself into a rage and then it strikes out in anger, without a plan in its …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 1:20 am

    Grr grrr,snap bite grrrr..................^^..................... Oh hello Wiley Rabbit was getting a bit excited for a moment there, Wiley. The Jay Bird carries on as if attcacking smaller opponents on the grounds they might one day attack oneself first, is somehow tougher, more brave than just living a good and peaceful life and being prepared for crazies. If we lived like this then the crazies might never has wrested control of the USA in the first place. The talk in Oz about Australian tropps is all bad. The thing you want to realise is that our whole involvement has been very low …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 3:53 am

    Rupert Murdoch is a committed Zionist Pig F*cking Bastard. He could technicaly be called Australian, frankfully, even though his shilling network has long arms and affects much of our media too, he is thankfully a half world away from Oz and that suits everyone around here just fine. Unless one considers the leaders, there never was any coalition of the willing. We were and remain a coalition of bullied and bribed. We don't make any bones about it, bit it sure does add insult to injury to hear Bush call us a coalition. Aussies are not going to give a shit …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 3:59 am

    Actually I don't know if Howard is a Rhody but shall check. Plenty of others were. They're groomed early out in the colonies. Old Mr Cecil Buggery Rhodes. One of the late great evil geniuses. More influential and far sighted an Illuminist is hard to think of just now.

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 4:33 am

    He wasn't but he still sucks up to Oxford and the Rhody scholar scheme it seems.

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 6:21 pm

    Jay You are a little man with a gun. You really ought to read your infantile and quite paranoid ramblings. Little men with guns are coming to get us all are they? How many little men with guns have tried to come and get you lately Jay Bird? Is there anybody on this thread who has ever seen or heard about little men with guns coming to get them? Jay Jay. Rabbit knows enough about Dave to feel confidant that he or his country are quite ready and prepared to deal with any little men with guns. Just because they don't …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 6:21 pm

    911 was in NO way related to Iraq. 911 was in NO way related to Iraq. 911 was in NO way related to Iraq. There were NO weapons of Mass Destruction, Bush lied. There were NO weapons of Mass Destruction, Bush lied. There were NO weapons of Mass Destruction, Bush lied. The USA is committing a series of WAR CRIMEs. The USA is committing a series of WAR CRIMEs. The USA is committing a series of WAR CRIMEs. Does any of this sink in to the tiny man's head yet? Of course not. So let us wack the twerp for fun, …

    Posted to Backdoor Draft, Back Again
    • 04 Jan 06
    • 6:25 am

    Jesus! That's a lot to go through just for sexual freedom. Wouldn't you think a bloke would just give up and concentrate on penetrating the heavenly if slightly fish scented gates of paradise? Obviously there is more to this bumbrothers approach than seems apparent to a wellrounded but not ultimately experienced rabbit. Is it worth it? If people are prepared to suffer and die for any cause it Demands fair attention. Fundamentalism is no different from East to West, if you're in you're in, if you are out, you are fucked, but not in a good way!

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 07 Jan 06
    • 5:32 am

    WTH found something worth posting about, someone was rude, and pointlessly so to Rabbit. Neither of you turkeys get the point that you said nothing, your point about Rabbit and what he does with his time was lame and backfired. Two problems with the following. I was going to write a cogent, sane, and normal response to your, um.. thoughts Firstly you haven't demonstrated any ability to do any such thing, I think it's an idle boast personally. You don't seem sane or normal, and if you are cogent, it is not in the way you intend. Secondly, since Rabbit has …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 07 Jan 06
    • 5:42 am

    You also make the usual dumbass assumptions that morons do, and are actually meant to as it happens. Why would you think Rabbit was proud of being a rabbit? Actually the truth is merely that he is happy to be a rabbit. Content even. If I was a Tiger, or even a Dragon, maybe I'd be proud of it, but alas I am but a rabbit. You are obviously projecting your own inate respect, and admiration for Rabbit, which considering your own presumed inadequacies is perhaps understandable. Now the rabbit is not going to pretend he is a Gorilla by calling …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 07 Jan 06
    • 5:54 am

    Tina1. (Hi Tina2) Only this very morning Rabbit read Rip Rense, ripping into the Brokeback Mountin'! Look his points were valid. I'm not sure that making such a song and dance about it as you are doing is the go though. The idea of seeing a couple of cowboys chasing cows around the scrub and each other around the bedroom doesn't appeal to this rabbit it is true. This is why Rabbit shall not be seeing it. yet I am not so offended by this movie (OK I haven't seen it) as a lot of Americans seem to be. Perhaps …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 07 Jan 06
    • 6:04 am

    Oh and don't be sad for Rabbit Mr InHisMind, the rabbit is happy, and healthy, and rather successful in his own small way. Rabbit has lived and travelled much and has a few experiences under his bely which many people with boring little unadventurous lives only dream about. Furthermore, Mister InHisMind, the rabbit has a job where he gets to sit and play wack a moron for a few hours each day, whilst he is making a living.....cool eh? So save your pity for people who need it, people whose delusional existence is at an end, whose worlds of secure imaginings …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 6:54 am

    Heh there, InHisMind. You already had your small ideas set straight about why Rabbit can spend a few hours of most days on the net, and don't worry most of my time is spent on research. Now projecting one's own foibles onto others is quite recognisable as a failing of morons, like yourself. Truly Rabbit is forced to call you a moron and a Troll for you have done nothing on this site but carry on like a full blown Troll. Rabbit gets a kick out of annoying wankers like you, it is true. But since he must stay within range …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 7:27 am

    Minerva, Rabbit will have to answer you on several accounts. Now rabbit was not embarrassed by anything sweety. He is not homophobic either. Rabbit agrees with Mr Renses honest acessment referenced above, to a degree. Neither he nor I are wishing to dictate to anyone about how they live their lives. Rabbit has had several Gay friends, including a couple of lesbian Bikers, who asked him to provide sperm for a child. Rabbit agreed but Mrs Rabbit did not, as that went. Rabbit has not completely made up his mind about Gay couple raising children, but my main comment about it …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 7:27 am

    How can we make the world a better place, so our young do not die for such stupid reasons This is really simple, at least the first step. We stop mucking around in each others business unless we can do it without imposing or killing people. Frankly the whole idea of an American asking what should we do about a social problem in Iran, is absolutely beyond the pale. It is exactly what is wrong with a large part of the world. Either they are struggling under the none too tender ministrations of a rampant military power intent upon dominating the …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 7:38 am

    Oh and Minerva Rabbit is quite close to his male friends. As an Aries he finds it easy to be quite personal and even on intinate terms (Non-sexual) with Virgo men especially. Having experienced this a few times it made sense when I read this was typical one day. I am not ashamed to cry and do so a lot more easily than Mrs Rabbit, especially about some movies or songs. Not the sloppy romantic stuff though, it is mostly too obviously presented for a third party, the real thing is just that for Rabbit. He is not a window shopper …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 9:22 pm

    Damn...WTH .....Rabbit just lost the first half of this post. In brief though I wanted to say rabbit can appreciate the sarcasm though was a bit slow on the uptake at the time due to rushing down the list a bit, and being already peeved at WTH for backing what was a completely unprovoked and gratuitous attack on the rabbit, from some moron, who even WTH might have noticed did nothing but be a Troll. Not a word and he fell into an obvious troll trap to boot. The rabbit was using your comment to launch one of his rants about …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 9:22 pm

    The bit that was to follow the lost post. This is also why so many of us are so denigrating of, not those who disagree with us as you oversimply believe, but those who are prepared to argue opinions about things of which they refuse to even consider. To be on the outer box looking in is so obvious once you are there. You can't possibly percieve of how clear things are from outside the box, whilst in it. Unfortunately it is hard to remember which is why so many of us can be so demeaning of you when you espouse …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 9:26 pm

    For what our pipsqueak nation is worth, we have a pretty poor relationship with human rights organisations too. Never forget that in Oz we have the slickest NWO bastard to run a country like a private enterprise, and all the while pulling the wool over the eys of the sheeple. JOHNNY HOWARD... the Teflon Arsehole Fucking little prick.....

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 9:39 pm

    BUT we do not use depleted Uranium, Napalm or chemical /nuclear weapons generally. If anybody tried to pull off a US style election campaign here they would be laughed out of the country. BTW these was to Wiley. Wiley there was a rather upbeat feeing to the link I gave above, at Prison Planet, if you have not read it. It's encouraging and you sound like you need a bit. Rabbit loves you.

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 09 Jan 06
    • 2:07 am

    We've survived and obviously learned. We are surrounded by more and more who have too. we may not be able to alter the course of current human history by much, but we ahve altered the course of human history in the sense that we may just have the dge it is going to take some to survive onto the next stage. Maybe a rebuilding, it seems more and more likely there won't be enough left to fix, by the time the wheel stops spinning. But we may just have the edge, not least because we may be on the verge of …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 1:05 am

    Indeed. As for WTH you go back and read what Rabbit just wrote, Wiley got it, as i expected she would, you will have to read it a bit more slowly yourself and note a few things at the same time. Self Appointed, is not the same as ONE rabbit making an observation. Note please the distinction which whilst not well developed was their for the reading. "We dont see ourselves as such, in the same way that Morons and Trolls think they are so smart." Furthermore due to the considerably more nuanced and reasoned opinions we predictably wack morons with, …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 1:17 am

    Wiley Rabbit doesn't really think superior is the right word, and adaptible might be closer. It is certainly why we have advanced in thinking. We have adapted to reality more quickly than those who are still struggling to maintain an illusion. Superior was bound to get some reaction though so the naughty rabbit left it lying there as a beacon. Notice that WTH is not the same as other morons, Wiley, he is actually Rabbit's friend but just doesn't know it yet. His house is all prepared and he will come and live in it one day. He is the reluctant …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 1:52 am

    Ha ha ha .....hA HA HA..... The nasty rabbit is in stitches imagining the penguin getting shoved in like that. ha ha ha...... Rabbit's sides are hurting. ...........^^............... I just lost a post to you Wiley, but the issue will come up again. It relates to something which will come up if you grab a front row seat to Armageddon, which I'm sure you will. The short version says, Permaculture....Horticulture is a a waste, take up the wondrous cause of Permaculture. Bill Mollison and permaculture, Google it. You may ask the rabbit what is his experience of it later and he …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 2:00 am

    Heh Wiley, here's a little snack, if you want one, though it looks like the morons are yet to react to the rabbit's hand grenades. You might find something worth throwing in here, before the thread is done. I've never been near that site before by the way. Do check out where Richard the Marine links to as an eye opener. See if you notice the Shill trick of calling the most articulate poster the site owner in the probable expectation that it wouldn't be disputed. or something like that. 8 yr old Marines

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 3:21 am

    Rabbit is something between the Ram and the Rabbit, as you know. That site is hotting up, I think we have a bite, Donny is the man. Excuse the arrogance of my reply to him, it is designed to get as far up the prick's nose as possible, as quick as possible, Rabbit's strategy for hit and run missions like this. as compared with his "Occupation" of ITT. Here the rabbit patrols his self assigned parts of the ITT field. Sticking to what he knows, or cares about. Keeping the Trolls and Morons down, guiding the shills away from their assignments …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 3:28 am

    Oh and Wiley, Rabbit is just as gullible too on face value but it was later down the thread that it became clear that Theo wasn't the site owner, a fact which was immaterial to my comment, that I checked the Richard's link and found he was from that den of shills. Then it looked even better when several more of the same ilk popped in. the timings are tight even though they are not noted on the posts. replys have been within minuytes. This is always a good sign. A determined quarry. Someone with a mission, a guard post perhaps? …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 3:39 am

    as Otis said I am going outside and I may be some time. .. Fixed, I hope....^^

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 10:13 pm

    For the sake of posterity, Rabbit will summarise. It would seem that we are all more or less tolerant of gays, wherever they are. However the American Gay community which is otherwise always represented on any forum Rabbit has seen about Western Gay issues, has been conspicuously absent on this thread where at least a few of the comments would normally have drawn a Shrill response. This is a little sad, because it probably indicates that our gay community does not have any better empathy or consideration of their fellow man than the rest of us, after all. Rabbit for one …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 10:16 pm

    The point, if it was clouded, is that these are Iranian Gays, and so not the same as usual Gay issues. or so it would seem.

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 11:09 pm

    They are around. A brit or two have been by, but they are a bit flibbery. ( I have no idea ) The Germans are known, at least Anarcho-Sozi and another I can't recall just now. One often comes across the Dutch but not sure if any here. Also French. There is no real co-alition of the willing, there is just the remnants of past connections.

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 12 Jan 06
    • 1:45 am

    Rabbit knows what you meant. Having also thought about this to be honest, my conclusion is that there are just so many forums, the real connections are so diluted if you know what Rabbit means. As certain information nexus sites become central as happens with such as ICH, Rense and Prison Planet for example, this will hopefully lead to more complete coverage. Stll, in truth most of the switched on minds, an overwhelming majority if one ignores the circle jerks known as Right wing sites, are aware of pretty much most of what matters. Hopefully we are all proselytising as much …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 12 Jan 06
    • 7:16 am

    We are all character experiments when seen from one perspective.

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 5:31 am

    Minerva you are a wee bit off kilter dear. Rabbit has no idea what argument of his you are referring to. Rabbit does not recall calling you an American. Having just read it he did indeed, so sorry. Now at least I know what the hell you're talking about. Look Minerva the main thrust of Rabbit's post to you was that you are making a number of assumptions about Rabbit's attitudes and are basically accusing him of being Homophobic which he is not. Nor am I anti-semitic but have been called that too. Drop the labels, read what people say and …

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 6:06 am

    Well the sun came up..

    Posted to Irans Anti-Gay Pogrom
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 6:47 am

    We are poised at a time in history when God has called me and said, "George, I want you to go out into the heathen lands of Iran, and bring democracy to them in their ignorance. George the Iranians need to be stopped from upsetting my plans for maintaining the Illusion of a US economy. You must destroy their Nuclear Potential, save the world from the chance that a nation antagonistic to us and with lots of oil, may gain the ability to feel secure from our Military intervention. Do this for me George and I might make you President for …

    Posted to My fellow Americans
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 7:00 am

    Due to the tragic loss of life suffered by the brave members of the world press who fell in such astoundingly high numbers in the most recent "troubles", in iraq, we are taking steps which should save millions of lives. In the true spirit of the New Amerikan Way, we will be allowing those same journalists the safety and security of our internment facilities around the world where they will be given suitable information and the means to bring that news to you without the danger of fallingvictim to our bullets or bombs. These journalists will not be tortured, any more …

    Posted to My fellow Americans
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 8:38 pm

    Oh God! This is not pretty. Another great gift for the world from the USA. So Troll wacking will be illegal now. Obviously we can complain that Trolls or Shills are annoying us, but when it comes down to which one will they prosecute, its easy to guess which one will be chosen. This is a law designed to protect the morons. A Moron Protection Act. In fact that is what Rabbit will christen it, The Moron Protection Act. MPA

    Posted to My fellow Americans
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 12:56 pm

    Wiley, Rabbit may have taken a prisoner from that RINF site. We mustn't scare him away, he was the one moron who seemed to be not a complete moron. We shall be nice to him if indeed he does creep up to the campfire. How useful if one can get one of them over the fence of comprehension, he is quite a central one too, Rabbit has researched him.

    Posted to My fellow Americans
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 5:46 am

    That's all right, dear, it was fun to watch anyway. I added a pink bit in your honour, hope you've seen it.

    Posted to My fellow Americans
    • 04 Jan 06
    • 9:47 pm

    So if Democrats cheat, it is not a Rebublican thing then? Or maybe the fact that you assume if we are anti Repug we must be Democrats? Newsflash, most people around here know the Demcraps are no substantially different from Repugs when it comes to cheating or anuything much else for that matter. Campy and Tina your presumptions are not helping your posts' credibility. Like Wiley said, who do you think you're talking to? Ain't nobody by those names living here. How is it OK to claim that we should give up our freedom and privacy, "Because if we've nothing to …

    Posted to Ghosts in the Voting Machines
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 7:07 am

    It's not that there are not the people or the ideas, it is that they have no access to the Programming. The only source which can get through to these ninnies (Hi Tina1), is the television, and to a lesser degree the MSM newspapers, but only if they agree with the television. When did John Fogerty write "I know it's true, cause I heard it on TV"? So you have a great set of ideas, and a plan, you have a handfull of devoted followers. Now try and get your message out. The first thing that happens is you're ignored, but …

    Posted to Ghosts in the Voting Machines
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 7:34 am

    Tina - Andrew, Rabbit cannot tell them apart so rather than just say Tina and Andrew or Tinaandrew or something ridiculous Rabbit will take the liberty of refferring to you as Tiny Shrew. Tiny Shrew With YOUR Ad-hominem and silly "Nhah Nhah Nhah, we won so there get over it", does perhaps have the advantage for you of allowing you to post something which may make you feel you are contributing...or not. The line fails to address anything of what is bothering anybody whether you wish to label them as Liberals, Communists or just Wankers, about George Dubya. For example I, …

    Posted to Ghosts in the Voting Machines
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 7:34 am

    I Rabbit will tell you all what is GOING to happen. In the next election, the Repugs will probably be on their knees, assuming that Martial Law is not declared between now and then, in which case there won't be a next election, get used to that idea, because it would seem a fair to be a 50% probability from here, that you'll get Martial Law before the next election, in which case it's game over. Tina1 will be saying what she likes, but any chance anyone will dare engage her will be done. Isn't that good Tina, you'll be able …

    Posted to Ghosts in the Voting Machines
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 7:50 am

    It also seems that Rabbit lost a little post to Wiley. Wiley din't you notice that Andrew replied directly to your direct question to Tina1? It's not a very bright moron, but it could also be a Shill, playing tricks like multiple personalities. Not a Troll this one, something either more mundane or more sinister. What a choice. Don't go getting yourself banned over such a ninny with a gender issue.

    Posted to Ghosts in the Voting Machines
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 7:52 am

    Talk to it about Abramoff instead, and see if it spins the official line which tries to spread the BS around for all to share.

    Posted to Ghosts in the Voting Machines
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 7:55 am

    Oh Wiley Rabbit knows something about the Tiny Shrew. Dave when he sees it will too. Notice how the Tiny Shrew spoke to itself, there did we? Great post andrew ... Familiar Dave?

    Posted to Ghosts in the Voting Machines
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 8:02 am

    Kuya, The rabbit's computer died a terrible flame and smoke type death courtesy of the powersurge from hell. With it went his address book for emails. Have been hoping for a word from you so as to be able to reply, would you drop Rabbit a line sometime so he has the address again please?

    Posted to Ghosts in the Voting Machines
    • 04 Jan 06
    • 6:30 am

    Not looking just wacking as it seems appropriate, Nat. For instance, it took ten long minutes to relocate flight 77 on back-up radar after they turned off the transponder. Does every aircraft carry a transponder? If not, how easy is it to discern exactly which no-transponder blip is the suspicious blip, and how much information can one get from a no-transponder blip regarding an actionable position? This was because of the exercises involving very similar , almost identical scenarios which placed up to 11 other blips on the radar screens at any time. Since thses were mostly meant to be …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Jan 06
    • 6:48 am

    Ad Marshall. The feuding as you describe it is something different when involving Shills. Are you really living in a society where stooging and shilling, informing and propaganda isn't a fact of life? Well, this is the internet in 2006. Sometimes, you seem to have come out of a time warp, like Austin Powers or something. Most importantly, the ONLY evidence of previous contact between posters, was by Rabbit a few days ago, and it has gone unanswered. Me thinks the gentleman does protest too much? Just a returning Rabbitty thing. HAPPY New YEAR, to all, except rightwingnuts and fundys, hope …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Jan 06
    • 7:11 am

    Do you have any criticism whatsoever for the 19 Muslim murderers who slit peoples throats, hijacked the planes, intentionally turned off the transponders and proceeded to transform their newly acquired mass of aluminum, kerosene and human flesh and bone into a guided missile? NO Nat, until I see enough information to clearly identify the so-callled suicide murderers, short of a completely transparent fabrication which popped up, without precedent within 24 hours of something which we all saw with differing degrees of experience and awareness, but which atrracted the suspicion of about half the world, overnight. NO Nat, I have no particular …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Jan 06
    • 7:23 am

    BY THE WAY Natty the eminently predictable Vampire Shill of ITT, meet WileyWitch. This Witch has answers to some of the sorts of questions you have tried to pose as inanswerable, before, to Rabbit. She gives the reamining pieces of information and others supply their bits, to fully, cream you official spiel, AND YOU KNOW IT! So even though there is doubtless sport ahead, and we shall communicate in other ways before this thread is dead, let Rabbit just give you a big Rabbitty lick, and say see, I was right all along. Here comes the choir, wasn't that what you …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Jan 06
    • 6:37 pm

    Wiley, the Ghost went by itself. This is Rabbit's jury rigged set of old circuit boards assembled to access the web at least while his computer is being re-built. We had a BAD power surge a couple days ago which KILLED the Rabbit's computer. Smoke sparks and crackling. The thing logged rabbit automatically as Rabbit, not ghost and it seems to be working again. You just can't keep a Good Rabbit down. AD, of course it is true that kindness and respect go far in maintaining the efficacy of the message. What needs to be remembered here is that in the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Jan 06
    • 6:42 pm

    Rabbit had a Maths lecturer at University who was like that Wiley. She yabbered on in a monotone, she looked like Nana Mouskouri and was the wife of the maths department head which is why she had a job. A brilliant mathematician by all accounts but SO BORING that she could put a whole lecture hall to sleep. After a couple of lectures most of us gave up and found something else to do. Unfortunately most of us failed that course and it cost Rabbit dearly as he never did learn calculus. Was behind due to wrong Maths choice in school …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Jan 06
    • 10:50 pm

    Thank God we don't have to show our faces as we read such nonsense, Rabbit's is not straight. Especially when he reads some of the insanity. Even from down here in Oz the American "Values and Beliefs" expressed by Wiley are quite obvious. We have a much paler version of it, but the difference is that if you challenge an Aussie dittohead, with facts contradictory to his parroted lines, he looks blank and shocked, listens and at least is no longer prepared to spout the drivel anymore. He might still have doubts about much of what is being said, but he …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Jan 06
    • 11:13 pm

    Anyway........... come on Nat the New Year's Bat............We are all gathering in the ring, awaiting your presence and the joy it doth bring. The parrotted propaganda from the princess of slander. You have yet to call Griffin a Drug Fiend, or Jones a Religious Nut, or everyone a Bush hater and thus untrustworthy, ....On THIS thread! Get to miss character assassin. Spray them with your poison again, because all these people are mentioning these names again, you know them all Natty, Reynolds too, and isn't it time you dredged up the hit piece from that magazine, Popular Mechanics? again? Time for …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 Jan 06
    • 8:01 am

    Natalie is a funny one sometimes. BTW Natalie, talking of Slander, your favorite fare, how about you don't go calling the Rabbit a Holocaust denier behind his back, ,and then scuttling away like a dirty little crab when the rabbit popped up and called you on it. This was on the Democrats It's the War thread I believe. This rabbit has never denied anything about WW2 except that the Holocaust, involving Jews was not the central or even the biggest mass killings carried out by not only Nazi germany but also by Russia, predominantly by JEWISH extremists, Bolsheviks who murdered about …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 Jan 06
    • 8:17 am

    The Towers Were Designed to Survive Large Jet Collisions. Each tower was designed to survive the impact and fire from a collision by a 707-340 carrying 23,000 gallons of fuel. The similar- sized 767-200s that hit the towers were each carrying about 10,000 gallons of fuel. Each tower was supported by both a palisade of columns forming its outer wall and a bundle of 47 massive steel columns in its core structure. Like all large engineered structures, the towers were over-engineered to support many times anticipated loads, to survive severe and improbable events, including bombings and fires. The plane crashes severed …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 Jan 06
    • 8:24 am

    Oh and what are the odds that it would all happen within a single work day, with time for a long and lazy lunch. ? 7 hours from start to finish. Not even any overtime needed for the controllers. Home for dinner. What are the odds? "When do you think you'll be home Dick?" "Oh hopefully not too late, we've got a few skyscrapers to knock over and a few thousand people to kill, and a lunch with some of the gang, but I expect to get it all over within working hours."

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 Jan 06
    • 8:29 am

    "What's George doing?" "They've got him stuck away with a bunch of schoolkids somewhere he can't fuck anything up, he can read them a story" "Are you sure that's wise? " "The kids are only seven or eight, it can be a simple story"

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 06 Jan 06
    • 12:31 am

    A nice round perspective piece. Murphy's Law Rabbit likes to read Douglas Hermann, and this one caught his rabbit eye recently. Still looking for the astronomical thing. Must it be astronomicalll impossible only? Are any other types of Astronomical allowed? Yes i know I have given up the ghost again, it has to do with computers being changed again and all that. All up and running again after the big power surge.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 06 Jan 06
    • 12:52 am

    Natty that thing where you put Alex and Steven Jones together like that, maybe they are brothers? Do you think they are related Natty? Maybe all these pesky people who are pointing out flaws in your lovely fairy story are related, maybe rabbit to is called Jones? Have you thought about it? You have such a lovely story too, about how nineteen Mad Muslims (half of whom are immortal), managed to bring down four planes and three skyscrapers, and kill 3000 people, with a box cutter each...Or was it nail clippers? Rabbit can't remember, what did the bada bada terrorists use …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 06 Jan 06
    • 2:01 am

    Rabbit reckons gas..................There are precedents. Have a look at KAL 007 I have a bad feeling I know what happened/is happening yet to some, of the passengers, if it is so, and the Russians may have been relatively kind in the case of KAL 007. Rabbit cannot tell for it would open up various cans of worms, and it is purely speculation and is unlikely to be found out in our lifetime if it is so. Unlike the KAL 007, which shows once again that big secrets are hard to keep.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 06 Jan 06
    • 2:03 am

    By the way, that wasn't meant as a precedent for gas in the plane, but there are a couple of stories which do go there. Meant that there were precedents for people supposedly dying in a plane crash but being spirited away by a government instead.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 06 Jan 06
    • 7:47 am

    Wiley.......... On an impulse and just before logging off for the day, Rabbit popped Rabbitanovichz into Google, and voila..........nothing. Why does not at least this one mention of such term not rate a mention. I mention this because similar exercises a few months ago would invariably have led back to the present if only ref to such a word. Things which make rabbits go hmmmm.................^^..................

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Jan 06
    • 5:18 am

    Rabbit was here but now is not. By god it's hot........36 C and half past three. (6.30 actually but it didn't rhyme.)

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Jan 06
    • 11:30 pm

    There was a very good reason why the Federal government would have wanted the Murrah building event. It is always amusing when Natty tries to ask a question she thinks is rhetoric and yet which has an answer totally out of order with what she tries to imply. Here is some questions about Oklahoma. Lots of information Yes it stinks and always did. Especially the usual sign of a False flag op, NOBODY CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY. Rabbit is still looking for a reference which refers to the Oklahoma State government having been prepared to declare itself free of the federal …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Jan 06
    • 11:45 pm

    Natty Rabbit is tired of your constant harping on about alternative news sites as if that diuscounts anything. As a governmnet shill you probably use a computer which doesn't allow direct access to many sites, you probably just get an officicial shill summary in place of the actual site on many of our sources. If you actually had read any of these sources you might notice how stupid you seem everytime you refer to them as conspiracy or innacurate. You see, as you have been told before, they may speculate on the news, but they don't make it up. The claim …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Jan 06
    • 11:49 pm

    OK read the link. It is too big to post here. It is all Mainstream Media reports, and not a bit of it supports the official Lies. By the way Natalie, Rabbit has before forbidden you to claim a majority of people in even the USA believe the official lies. He has posted polls which show that the majority don't believe at all. Forgetting are we? Now just accept you are the minority and your side is losing day by day. Or don't. I guess ignoring defeat is an American speciality.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 12:03 am

    Oh more of your forgetfullness Natty. There have been numerous engineers and demolition experts qutoed among the refutation oif the official lie. Do you think nobody here knows you have been through all this before and have lost already? As for basing your opinions on facts....that is hilarious. The facts are complete anathema to the official conspiracy theory. They discount much of it from being possible. You base you opinion upon the government line and have never strayed from it by one millimeter, just like a shill would. YET the government lie is almost all speculation, since they withhold the crucial …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 12:15 am

    The Gullibility Test is cool. The clever Rabbit got 100% As for Natty claiming the answers were questuionable in some cases, she obviously hasn't read the answers and why. They were all easily proven contentions. You are just struggling with your gullibity Natty and proving how you can't change your opinions about anything. Just like with other tests you've taken which showed things which you didn't like, you automatically write something off if it disagrees with your delusions. Hi Wiley, you caught a rabbit...................^^....................

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 12:19 am

    Trying to get Natty to learn anything scientific is hopeless. Rabbit tried to teach her about gravity and Newtons laws styep by step, with helpful experimenst she could try at home, but she flat refused to entertain the idea learning about such "complex" science. Still you'd think Natty had a headstart on understanding Radar, being a Bat and all.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 12:51 am

    Yes Wiley, Natty is very trying. She is quite fun though isn't she? If she would just stop the broken record lines. She has been through it all, and as you can see she still pretends she is living in the real world and dealing with those of us she claims are in la la land. Delightful the irony when the only people who have ever taken her seriously, and complimented her on her achievements, is Jay Bird. Once or twice a moron like Jay will say how right and clever she is, and she probably feels quite encouraged by that. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 12:56 am

    Israeli Mossad angle is THE angle I reckon. First they are the first contenders just from the old "WHO GAINS?" query. FBI evidence of Mossad involvement in September 11 attacks on the U.S.?! source: Al Jazeera Jan 6/2006 On the day of the September 11, 2001 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked how they could affect Israeli-U.S. relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good.Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)". An article by reporter Jim Galloway, published on The Austin American-Statesman on Nov. 25, 2001, stated that the FBI had evidence suggesting …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:05 am

    Behind closed doors, Israeli authorities were doing all what they can to get the men released and the FBI probe closed. Israeli lawmakers contacted their friends in the U.S. Congress, and the Mayor of Jerusalem, Ehud Ohmert personally called the New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and asked him to intervene. An article on Power of Prophecy reported that a war brewed inside the FBI between the agents conducting the probe and their superiors, who warned that involving the Israelis in the attacks could be an "explosive political volcano." But the lower-level agents didnt buy it. They believed that the arrested …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:05 am

    Now Rabbit guesses the first thing the Bat will say, is that it is from al-jazeera. Rabbit hopes she does, because he will enjoy showing the same story in the US MSM, where it is. This will be useful to show that al-Jazeera is reliable what's more. Killing two bats with one stone. Three if one considers the further hit to her credibility the Natty will thus earn. Come on Natty, never mind it is a trap, jump into it like you always do. OOOH they are using al-Jazeera as a source..............ooh you can get them now.......... (Seriously guys, you can …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:12 am

    Sep 1999: A US intelligence report states bin Laden and Al-Qaeda terrorists could crash an aircraft into the Pentagon. The Bush administration claims not to have heard of this report until May 2002, though it was widely shared within the government. [CNN, 5/18/02, AP, 5/18/02, Guardian, 5/19/02] Nov 1999: The head of Australia's security services admits the Echelon global surveillance system exists. The US still denies it exists. BBC describes Echelon's power as "astounding." Every international telephone call, fax, e-mail, or radio transmission can be listened to by powerful computers capable of voice recognition. They home in on key words, or …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:18 am

    May 2001: The US introduces the "Visa Express" program allowing any Saudi Arabian to obtain visas through their travel agent instead of appearing at a consulate in person. [US News and World Report, 12/12/01] Five hijackers use Visa Express over the next month to enter the US. [Congressional Intelligence Committee, 9/20/02, (Witness Hill)] May-Aug 2001: A number of the 911 hijackers make at least six trips to Las Vegas. These "fundamentalist" Muslims drink alcohol, frequent strip clubs, and smoke hashish. Some even have strippers perform lap dances for them. [San Francisco Chronicle, 10/4/01, Newsweek, 10/15/01] June 2001: German intelligence warns the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:26 am

    Aug 24, 2001: Frustrated with lack of response from FBI headquarters about detained suspect Moussaoui, the Minnesota FBI begins working with the CIA. The CIA sends alerts calling him a "suspect 747 airline suicide hijacker." Three days later an FBI Minnesota supervisor says he is trying keep Moussaoui from taking control of a plane and fly it into the WTC." [Senate Intelligence Committee (Hill #2), 10/17/02] FBI headquarters chastises Minnesota FBI for notifying the CIA. [Time, 5/21/02] FBI Director Mueller will later say "there was nothing the agency could have done to anticipate and prevent the [911] attacks." [Senate Intelligence Committee …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:33 am

    Sorry it's long folks, but Rabbit feels the wealth of information, credited to the MSM like this, is too good not to be included in a thread started on the back of a pathetic hit piece based on innuendos of lack of backing for alternative opinions about 911. Some more now. Come on Muwakkil, how about you have a shot at knocking some of the massive amount of evidence of government complicity and knowledge? You made the initial spurious attack on supposedly deluded fools, maybe you can explain how the official lie can exist next to the facts which are printed …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:34 am

    September 11, 2001Timeline for the Day of the Attacks Department of Defense (6/1/01) and FAA (7/12/01) procedure: In the event of a hijacking, the FAA hijack coordinator on duty at Washington headquarters requests the military to provide escort aircraft. Normally, NORAD escort aircraft take the required action. The FAA notifies the National Military Command Center by the most expeditious means. [DOD/, 6/1/01, FAA, 7/12/01, FAA 7/12/01] If NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) hears of any difficulties in the skies, they begin the work to scramble jet fighters [take off and intercept aircraft that are off course]. Between Sep 2000 and …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:37 am

    10:10 AM: Flight 93 crashes in Pennsylvania. [42 minutes after contact was lost][CNN, 9/12/02] 10:28 AM: The World Trade Center north tower collapses. [CNN, 9/12/01, NY Times, 9/12/01] 5:20 PM: Building 7 of the World Trade Center collapses. [CNN, 9/12/01] Sep 11, 2001: Did the Air Force send up planes after the hijacked aircraft? The Air Force won't say. It says they keep about 20 F-15 and F-16 fighters on duty with Air National Guards along the nation's coastline, ready to inspect unknown aircraft entering U.S. airspace. "We can scramble and be airborne in a matter of minutes," said an Air …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:39 am

    Oct 2, 2001: The Patriot Act is introduced in Congress. The next day, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D) accuses the Bush administration of reneging on an agreement on this anti-terrorist bill. [Washington Post, 10/4/01] Anthrax letters are sent to Leahy and Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D) on October 9. [CNN, 11/18/01] Oct 10-11, 2001: After consulting with the FBI and CDC, Iowa State University in Ames destroys anthrax spores collected over seven decades. On Oct 25, the White House homeland security director confirms publicly that the tainted letters contained the Ames strain. [New York Times, 11/9/01] Nov 12, …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:40 am

    Jan 4, 2002: An editorial in the respected trade magazine Fire Engineering states that there is good reason to believe that the "official investigation," blessed by FEMA, into the WTC collapse is a half-baked farce that may already have been commandeered by political forces whose primary interests are clearly not full disclosure. Respected members of the fire protection engineering community are beginning to raise red flags, and a resonating theory has emerged: The structural damage from the planes and the jet fuel in themselves were not enough to bring down the towers. [Fire Engineering, 1/02] Jan 24, 2002: Senate Majority Leader …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:48 am

    That's about half of it, so far. I the 100% NOT GULLIBLE Rabbit, consider the list of stories above to give a very clear, an absolutely undeniable picture of a government which was not only complicit to some degree in 911, but which has quite obviously been going to the most extreme lengths in order to cover up the fact ever since. You Natalie, are apparently just one tiny cog in the coverup machine, of course with a media form like the internet, Shills are certainly important in the task of coverup. See for example how much you have managed to …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 1:51 am

    Rabbit is off for now. Don't worry that Natty will be distracted by any of this Wiley. It will be in the too hard basket, she'll prefer to spar with you using her smoke and mirror tricks and by trying to squirm herself into knots like an eels in the hopes that she will twist your words enought o have built herself a strawman. I've told you before what a terror she is in demolishing Strawmen.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 2:05 am

    The lies promulgated about 9/11 are so legion that the deceivers are starting to trip over their own twisted tongues. Larry Silverstein claims his "pull it" comment meant to evacuate firefighters from WTC Building 7 and yet Popular Mechanics' own 9/11 debunking special stated that there were no firefighters in the building whatsoever. Just wanted to get in before the Nat. Paul Joseph Watson, Prison Planet whopping the ninnies again. A direct answer to a typical Natty criticism of one of the better Internet News Sites. Bit right wing attitudes for the rabbit, but they are the good guys. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 2:17 am

    Interesting point Wiley. It is noticeable from outside that the maudlin preoccupation with 911 is not natural. Not meaning the majority who are interested because of the LIES and wanting the truth to come out. That so many Americans seem to take it so personally still and call it up as the Great Justifier of all which they now do. Like the Holocaust mindset. the Jews sufferred the Holocaust and now they can do anything they want. they can murder and torture and dominate, as well as rob anyone they feel like, but because of the holocaust, nobody must criticise. Now …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 6:22 am

    Actually Andi It helps that most of it is familiar enough that I can grab the sources and post without having to go through it all again. I think that ITT might have set us up on this one. they didn't dare say all this themselves so Muwakkil comes on and gives Professor Jones and griffin a spray, knowing there would be plenty of regulars about to set the record straight and post all the info they didn't dare get into. This is rabbit giving ITT the benefit of the doubt. Either way, the information is here. Even better when someone …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 9:49 pm

    Something else on this topic Rabbit posted to Minerva yesterday on the Your Guess Is As Good thread. Minerva Rabbit just happened by this thread again, and something you mention also on the right 911 thread. This one BTW ..when youre flying at 500 miles per hour...it takes an hour to travel five hundred miles. But why are you flying at 500 miles an hour, when the planes are capable of 1800 mph? That my dear is the question.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 09 Jan 06
    • 1:27 am

    Relax lovely Witch, Skipper is an occasional poster and well regarded by Rabbit as I recall. He was throwing stones at the same Morons we are. There is a lot for him to read to catch up on all that has been posted, and he has done what we all do, look for the morons first. We have a had a steady stream of them, but even Natty has dried up at the moment, she does when she feels out numbered or cornered. I'm sure Skipper was referring the TVNewsLies piece to them. Unfortunately the morons have had that reference before …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 09 Jan 06
    • 1:36 am

    Oh by the way,...Wiley.... it is possible that some people just post comments, based purely on the article and are thus often not reading other comments. Which of course is not only fair but essentially what the editors usually aim for with these threads. It is we undisciplined rabble who tend to take the threads on long journeys. Once in a while someone mentions the article again or we remind ourselves what started it all, or someone drops in just commenting the article and thus reminds us. Obviously this time the topic is easy to stick to, I suspect sometimes this …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 5:07 am

    Guess you know now, they didn't wake up. The problem in this regard was there all along Wiley. Speaking from the point of view of an outsider to America but nonetheless part of the American Empire, a VERY large portion of the population was already entranced by the spell of modern media. I'm serious when I suggest it is actually an evolutionary thing. There is such a thing as a "primitiv" mentality which was never ready for true communion and oneness with the rest of the Galaxy, whilst paradoxically many more were being born, hatching so to speak, who could and …

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    • 10 Jan 06
    • 5:09 am

    Hells bells, the rabbit has an uncomfortable knack of automatic writing if the Witch knows what he means, and that last spelling error scared the poop out of the hopper. Meat? Jesus I hope not, that is rabbit's worst fear. He meant meant.............

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    • 10 Jan 06
    • 11:19 pm

    Rabbit maybe sees two or three hours of Television a week, on average. Our kids grew up for the first ten years without TV, which was easy living as far out as we had lousy reception anyway. Since moving to the city they have had TV and the drop in their behaviour, there attention levels, is astounding. It is still possible to keep tabs on the Televison culture just from absorbing the talk around and the refs in the news etc. Rabbit can carry on a conversation about just about any TV show and people would never know Rabbit never saw …

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    • 11 Jan 06
    • 10:01 pm

    Wiley, a tip, keep an occassional eye on this thread. The Nat Bat usually returns to the scene of her last crap, to try and hijack the tail of the thread. She will sit like a spider, quiet now, until someone new posts on the thread, then she'll pounce and begin the whole shebang again, as if everyone just hatched new out of the egg with never a word said before.. ..... ..... Or she'll wait a while and then post a whole heap of stuff, reams and reams, much more than she does when actually arguing directly. (I could not …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 5:44 am

    And you think that the planes were 767's and you think that the buildings, all three of them just feel down like decks of cards, because of a plane hit and short duration cool fires or a fire only in one case? Do you believe in the farcical and fast drowning official lie Minerva or are you just having some sort of pissing contest with Wiley? Don't forget what the POTUS was doing while "All hell broke loose one morning in september" either will you?

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    • 16 Jan 06
    • 12:55 pm

    That's it. Hooray for Nat....!! She has proven the whole government story, just like that, demolished the assembled references above and on three other threads, all the arguments and without further ado prove us all crazy with whatever she just waffled on about. Glad you're still around Nat, Rabbit has been spreading little baits, especially around the new incoming shills any one or all of which could be Natty the raging mad Batty. Who knows, but it seems "de fun ain't done, mon". Rabbit shall be content to watch. "There's lot's more folks, stay tuned." Read this Natty. Wiley, a tip, …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 1:11 pm

    Yes Nat, There sure is lots more, and since you raise the matter, here is some of it. Always ready for you slimy Vampire shill of the Depleted Uranium Evil. For every one of your paltry shills hop specials Rabbit shall produce two new and interesting articles of facts to make your puny conspiracy theory of cobbled together exagerations, misinformation and witheld information, look like the shill swill they are. Eat your heart out Bat. Rabbit has saved the best till later, we've only been playing mousy games with you, trying to discuss rational things like probability, history and gravity. Now …

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    • 16 Jan 06
    • 1:17 pm

    German Intel Agent Von Bulow Solves 9/11, USS George Washington anchored off Long Island on 9/11. That ship is believed to be the base of operations for the white jet seen in all 9/11 locations and the South Tower helicopter which remote controlled a Boeing 737, not a 767 claimed by government conspiracy theorists, into the South Tower. For more evidence of the US Navy connection to 9/11 read the Rense article, PM Missed NASA 911-type Airliner Crash 20 Years Ago: The Navy's bloody hands are all over the Plan for 9/11, Operation …

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    • 16 Jan 06
    • 1:23 pm

    Oh, all the silly little electrons stuffed up. They had their orders and they lost it, so people will have to cut and paste the urls, but they are all intact thinks the rabbit. So How Were Those 911 Cell Calls Made? QUALCOMM Press Release 12-23-5 "Today, American Airlines and QUALCOMM showcased their strength as technology pioneers and market leaders in their respective industries," said Dan Garton, executive vice president of marketing for American Airlines. "American is committed to researching and providing innovative, cutting-edge products and services that enhance our passengers' traveling experience and give our customers what they value. Even …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 2:19 pm

    Oh and by the way. The Movie In Plane Site was shown on channel 10 here the other day, Rabbit heard about it from a customer. That's a commercial TV station too as it happens. Getting mainstream enough for you cockroaches scuttling about in the shadows?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 2:25 pm

    A little one which eats all of Natty's ratty little offerings for a snack. Had it before I think but you can't have too much of a good thing, or bad thing as the case may be eh, Natty? Are you happy Rabbit is helping you Natty? There certainly was lots more, wasn't there Natty? Your turn now, you throw a stick onto the fire, Natty.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 2:36 pm

    Those quotes you think so highly of, prove nothing and don't scratch the surface even at this point, but more interestingly a google for them reveals the grand total of 17 hits. A whole 17. They are all government or peripheral to it, and they all recycle the same story among themselves but there is no real point at which it gets pinned down to a credible source, uynles the NYT is such. It would seem those quotes are not only likely to be missing from "9/11 conspiracy websites", they are for the most part missing everywhere. Now why might that …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 2:38 pm

    AND you believe, don't you Nat? Yes Natty believes. Keep drinking the Koolaid, don't forget the koolaid Nat.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 3:54 am

    And like the arlier ones they appear only on a handful of government or closely linked contractors and they are not in historical context and they cannot even be verified. For all the volumes of verifiable, solid factual and fully referenced stuff she has gliblt ignored, Rabbit would not even bother reading anything of Nat's. You've never posted anything which stood up to even the most minimal standards of internet protocol, Nat, forget it. rabbit now owes you some more, he promised didn't he. Lucky Nat to have such a helpful Rabbit. Now how about you answer Wiley, is she asking …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 4:03 am

    Wiley's point is also quite obvious Nat, why would anyone have been expecting the buildings to collapse? We've already dealt with the probability that such a collapse would occur once as being astronomical, twice many times more and three times in one day, for the first time in history as being nearly infinate. What incredible precognisance had these alleged witnesses to be able to have anticipated such miraculous results.? Very simply put, the quotes change nothing and probably if examined closely will open more cans of worms than they close, it is usually so when the Official lies are looked more …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 4:38 am

    Hi Wiley Rabbit comes back with some links in honour of Nat in a moment. See how Rabbit was only just behind the Nat when she flapped by Wiley, she probably think Rabbit gets notification of followup, but he never does. rabbit is just karmically linked to Natty such that everytime she appears, so does Rabbit. Sometimes she has waited weeks and then crept in only to have the rabbit reply in 2 minutes. Rabbit magic.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 4:53 am

    From November 10th 2005. Congressman challenges Department of Defense Representative Curt Weldon, Republican from Pennsylvania, has just fired another salvo in his ongoing battle against the Defense Department over the Able Danger information warfare program. According to at least five DOD employees, the controversial data-mining project, which ended in 2000, identified Mohamed Atta and other 9/11 hijackers a year before the worst terror attacks ever on US soil.

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    • 17 Jan 06
    • 4:55 am

    High-Ranking Military Officers And Airline Pilots Agree Flt 175 Did Not Hit WTC South Tower Startling new revelations about the 9/11 attacks were recently released on The Power Hour radio program. Col. George Nelson USAF (ret.), who has 30 years of experience identifying aircraft and aircraft parts stated, "The plane that hit the south tower on 9/11 was not United Airlines (UA) flight 175". After reviewing numerous video clips and photographs of the 9/11 attacks, he concluded, "That was not a commercial airliner. The planes were substituted." More on this.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 4:59 am

    In the RENSE article 'FBI Hides 85 Pentagon Videos & 911 Truth', the cat was let out of the bag that a substituted Boeing 737 airliner, not the Flight 77 Boeing 757, guided by remote control from a hovering military helicopter crashed into the massive Pentagon masonry wall and came out second best. The 9/11 fairy tale claims Flight 77 went through the outer 3 rings of the Pentagon structure. You can hate the messenger but you can't kill the message.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 5:04 am

    180+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' Found in the Mainstream Media oooh! Hooray for the fairy. Like that Nat the fairy gives you 180 mainstream references. How many articles had picked up your imagined quotes back there? Was it 18? Was it that many Nat?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 5:12 am

    Here is a good resource to see the various videos and see some of the latest news. 911 IN PLANE SIGHT was shown on OZ TV recently. That should keep a fire burning under Nat's ass for a bit. Isn't it nice to know that for every one of your efforts Rabbit will post two even better bits of information. Rabbit's is even directly relevant. How happy Nat must be for the Rabbit.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 6:17 am

    Plot to drive the world insane

    "... Im starting to think that S11 was an even more audacious psy-op than any of us imagined. That the ultimate purpose was not so much to get people to believe the official story as such but , but to plunge them into intellectual senility in the process of dealing with it. Of couse, the middle ranking perps like Bush desperately need to people to believe the official story and hell fight tooth an nail for that, but hes just a pawn in the game too. The people pulling his strings have just let …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 5:20 am

    Also ignoring a lot of whistleblowers aren't we Natty? Many people have come forward, and references have been given to their stories. Since you ignored them like nearly everything else (and that's a lot), you probably think that means they don't exist well since we know of them and discuss them, they exist. Any comment about the Mossad Agents caught with Video of the whole attack sequence, and dancing in celebration over it and who were arrested and finally spirited out of the country? Obviously not. So much ignored and so little has been said with so many words by this …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 5:25 am

    Natalie Being able to parrot a definition of Denial is only more incredible when you are in the midst of denial of such basic facts as the many who have come forward with information which points squarely at some level of government involvement. It happened, you ignore it and say it didn't happen. You say we are in denial for saying that it happened. What? If you were not a Shill, you would be certifiably insane on the basis of the argument you present. You can only help the cause of truth in the end, because you are too incredible even …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 5:29 am

    Forget Radar Wiley, Natty lacks even comprehenmsion of Gravity and despite Rabbit trying his best to explain it she was still denying it could be understood by laymen, but needed engineers and professors to understand. Then when we gave her engineers and professors to explain it, she says that they are lying because they hate George Bush. If she is going to dismiss any testimony because they hate George Dubya, then it does narrow the field a bit. It also escapes her notice that the mere fact of understanding the truth is enough to make anyone hate George Bush if they …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 8:39 pm

    Jude would probably not mind if Rabbit posted the whole of her very succinct article. This ties the whole lot up very neatly and though a review for most of us, is nonethless answering what small arguments are being raised by the resident dittoheads. Natty and Minerva. Neither has anything but foolishness to their credit. Upon considering the above article they have lost the day.

    Webster Tarpley took a survey of the people in the room, to ascertain how many people were seasoned 911 truth seekers. Many of the people were new to the information. In order to help put …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 8:40 pm

    Oops Rabbit meant Judy may not mind, but he didn't post it all anyway, you must go and read the rest at the link provided.

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    • 19 Jan 06
    • 10:23 am

    Minerva For you to say this: Because (and I hope youll excuse this statement as the ravings of a woman with little diplomacy) I do not find the facts, urls, and conspiracy theories being presented at this website particularly telling. Is ridiculous, and I'm saying this as the straight talk of a rabbit with with lots of diplomacy, but little urge to engage it here. You cannot possibly have read even half of the sources, the articles or the postings on this thread, and yet make such a bland and totally preposterous statement. You have advanced NOTHING but feeble mewing …

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    • 19 Jan 06
    • 10:25 am

    Read about the ONLY reason the US is going to attack Syria.

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    • 19 Jan 06
    • 10:54 am

    Oh MY GOD. The rabbit is beside himself. He is amused...very much. What a darling little twit. This is so extraordinary that Rabbit will be adding it to a special collection of weird things Trolls say. Its not victim crap....Im playing your game , but refusing to go to the most idiotic extreme, where I start citing internet websites as representative of some sort of fact. You are a very confused chicken. You are in a state of mental denial, you are communicating to us from the most idiotic extreme , if only you could see your own words with rational …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 10:54 am

    Minny No doubt you would take a lot of convincing your partner was being unfaithful, but there comes a time when you are being so ridiculous that to continue to delude yourself he is faithful is pathetic. You have crossed that Rubicon. You are Pathetic. It saddens Rabbit to tell you this, but you are being so transparently pathetic in your BEGGING for us to affirm your delusions have some merit. The bastards are making Torture LEGAL, they are using Depleted Uranium and poisoning the troops. 56% of the Gulf War veterans are disabled. The first and second wars were 5% …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 11:07 am

    That same government is gearing up to attack two more middle eastern countries, thus further stretching the military, not to mention making a few hundred Million slightly darker shaded people very pissed off. This war on terror isn't going very well for you is it my pets? Do you think that bombing the shit out of a peaceful nation going about it's lawful business according to the treaty it has signed and never broken, is going to endear you to the other middle eastern countries? Do you think attacking Syria, for which there can be no discernable reason except to do …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 12:35 pm

    Minerva are you trying to set your sister up for a date or a gang bang? So heres your chance, fellas, to get next to a woman who has the inside scoop ........., my sister ....... Form a line behind Stinky Pete, ok? Little Minny Chicken, you are a freak show baby. Oh woopee, the greatest Liar and professional Shill on the block. Back to deny Gravity, History, Witnesses, Video and Recorded evidence some more Natty, and pretend that you just hatched out of the egg all shiny and new again? Like a Virgin, touched for the very first time? …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 12:53 pm

    Natty you've had upwards of a dozen engineers and professors and many more highly credible witnesses and opinions given. It has been proven with science, shown with visual evidence and attested to by numerous witnesses, that the WTC's were not only brought down with the aid of explosives, but that the planes which hit the two WTCs and the Pentagon were not even the planes they were supposed to be. You have ignored a LOT, but it is still there and everyone can see it. Reading down the thread you just come across as a lunatic in staggering denial. The fact …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 1:09 pm

    Natty is doing all that buring building, big scary fires stuff again. You are pretending you have not already been around that silly bush a few times already and with nothing to show for it but more Proof the Official story is a LIE. Oh that's right, that was on another thread. I'd guess nobody is going to bother Nat. We have been there for anyone who cares, You can't learn anything, sinece you're a shill. You are of no further use, except as a punching bag. Who wants first hit of the Vampire Shill of Depleted Uranium Hill? Come and …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 20 Jan 06
    • 8:23 am

    On the North and South towers I think they used something very hot in the basement, probably thermite. This has probably been at various points through the core of the building, and was detonated just prior to the planes striking. There are numerous witness to such an explosion including one person who was injured in it, while in the basement levels. This was before the planes hit the building. In this way the central columns which were essential to the vertical load bearing, were eliminated or severely weakened at the outset. The fires at the crash sites, began with large, apparently …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 20 Jan 06
    • 9:58 am

    Thanks Frog. There is no substitute for thoroughness. I rather hoped they were inviting the real message to be heard, by being so feeble and cretinous in their attempt to sling off at Jones and Griffin. Nay I fear the threads have no bearing on anything, existing as they do in a bubble. Too bad. So the public face of ITT is such garbage as Muwakkil's piece, without the straightening out we give it, I take it. ......................^^.............................. Rabbit remains, watching for the frog...................................... Rabbit is always interested in frogs.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 20 Jan 06
    • 12:09 pm

    Yes, at first reaction to the WTC's collapse on TV, which is the first thing I saw when opening my eyes on the day, I felt I was looking at special effects. It took quite a while of watching about a half hour to realise it wasn't a movie. The initial shock meant I didn't think about that again until a few months later, and then bit by bit I heard things which made me look ate all again, and then I accepted the truth very quickly. Rabbit has long since known what sort of scum run not only the USA …

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    • 23 Jan 06
    • 4:24 am

    The Bin Laden Tape is bullshit, another Neo-Con Con Job. The dead guy, gives a really short message, about half as long as usual, never bothers with the Koran but gives a plug to a book by an Author he would be more likely to want subjected to a fatwa? Uh Hum. Rabbit heard he does a commercial for Coke-cola too but they cut that bit fearing Americans mightn't buy it..

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 5:44 pm

    What happened to the Frog? Are you under water Froggy? The lack of claims for responsibility has always struck me as one of the more glaring discrepancies of attacks like the Alfred P Murrah building, 911 and the London Bombings. Oh and Madrid. In none of these cases have the perpetrators come forward and said "We did and this is why"

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 10:55 pm

    The exercise underway in London may actually have had a fair bit to do with what happened. Actually the London job is relatively tight. Unlike 911 where it has simply been a matter of joining the dots there is far more mere speculation this time. Rabbit is of the opinion that it was in fact an exercise at various levels. A small number of implanted people made it go live. Rabbit believes the "alleged" bombers were involved in an exercise, which unbeknownst to them was made to go live. The thing which stuck in my craw from the start was the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 11:10 pm

    Frog Joe Vialls lived a few suburbs away from me, he was living in Perth until he died recently. I cannot confirm any more than this. I too had my doubts about Joe, some attentive people do due to some odd goings on a long time ago. Much suspicion about exactly who or what he was, due to the apparent lines on some info particularly. Actually if a couple of people want, Rabbit will go and check out Joe's address and see if he can meet Mrs Vialls, possibly can bring some finish to the Joe Vialls questions which are asked …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 23 Jan 06
    • 11:14 pm

    Rabbit however has a message from the other side. Illuminati scumbags, the show ain't over till the fat lady sings. Rabbit hears many things, but no fat lady singing yet.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 6:23 am

    Dear little Minerva. You are completely peripheral to Rabbit's existence. You are less than a fly to me. You are good for a giggle, looneys usually are. Rabbit is an Aries which is sort of immune to issues of Ego in the way you percieve it. secondly he is sufficiently sure of himself not to feel threatened by an empty headed little ninny who boasts like a preteen about close family but so far leaves us to wonder if she is thus the mongrel of the family of Nobel Prize candidates. My suggestion that you kill youself was following a relevant …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 24 Jan 06
    • 11:03 pm

    Was she only joking? Silly Rabbit. Agreed though Wiley.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 Jan 06
    • 1:51 am

    Hooray for the Natalie has finally shed her cutesy face and instead we see her fangs, hollow fangs, full of poison like a serpent, or a VAMPIRE. IT is so for she now trys to openly suck the life from the truth with ad-hominem and character assainations. Perverting laguage to mean it's opposite when in fact she has been thrashed and killed many times on these and other matters. Grumbling and casting foul aspersions upon Rabbit who has never helped her filthy causes in any way. Shortly Rabbit shall post more recent real things he has seen about 911. Our cause …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 Jan 06
    • 2:12 am

    Bang Bang Bang Read it Minny Mind, and Batty Natty, have you got a friend Sweety? Isn't that lovely. You make such a lovely couple of dumb bitches too. Rabbit knows who among us would classify as good bad or cops, but you too are Dumb and Dumber, and make a good case for the following joke which Rabbit offers as a trully funny thing in a mature sense. Do you have any Knock Knock Jokes or Riddle to offer next Minerva? A man enters a bar and orders a drink. The bar has a robot > bartender. > …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 Jan 06
    • 8:12 pm

    Sometimes something is just totally devastating to the small claims and character assaults, the ad-hominem and emotional clap-trap of such prize Morons as our resident Shill Natalie and her most recent "mate" in idiocy Minerva, that the article deserves a full cut and post. Thus it cannot be subjected to the usual spin and marginalisation of Nat the Bat. Coming as it does from the corner of the great stink, there where Nat the Pro Liar lives, any attack on anything becomes an endorsement of that's likely truth and substance. A sort of anti-endorsement. So Nat the Bat and Minny Mind, …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 Jan 06
    • 9:02 pm

    No Air Force or Air National Guard jets were sent to "scramble" the hijacked planes, which were clearly deviating from their flight plans, although jet fighters had been deployed for scramblings 67 times in the year prior to 9/11. The procedure for issuing orders for scrambling was changed in June 2001, requiring that approval could only come from the Secretary of Defense, but Donald Rumsfeld was not alerted soon enough on 9/11, according to Scholars group. The video of Osama bin Laden found by American troops in Afghanistan in December 2001, in which bin Laden says he orchestrated the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 Jan 06
    • 10:10 pm

    Minny Mind finds it hard to believe the US government could casually murder three thousand of it's own (Actually I think they were aiming for a lot more). This is funny. The same government caused the deaths of about 1.5 million Iraqi's mostly Children before attacking that country for nothing except proven lies. Since then they have poisoned hundreds of thousands more and ensured that Iraq will be forever contaminated with Depleted Uranium in it's most deadly form. Hundreds of thousands of US troops have also been contaminated and caused disabilities from the first gulf war alone, and they …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 6:59 am

    Rabbit can't find that on that link Wiley? It's all about witness testimony from 911.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 11:36 am

    Rabbit found another url shrinking site. SNIPURL. Even more simple though if anything. Frog. Hello Frog.......Rabbit just likes saying Frog it's a good word carrying good connotations and postive things. If the environment get's sick the frogs know first. Rabbit's get a feeling for it pretty quickly too of course. Frog you must make a point of hopping a bit in the presence of Rocco when you come across him. He is a friendly, but he likes to poke at hoppers, and needs a small wack with a rubber bat to keep him in line once in a while. He has …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 11:42 am

    Hi Lumens, it seems that the breaking of urls by the line inside of the HTML doesn't break the urls if one is careful. Check the source page under View, and see that the full urls are used here and it was three lines long in the comments box. Why the Official Account Cannot Be True .

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 11:46 am

    Forget that for now, it isn't working now Rabbit want's to. No lousy electrons, dance for dave when he says it. Doing it for Rabbit when nobody is looking but no not now. WHY THE OFFICIAL ACCOUNT IS BULLSHIT!

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 11:48 am

    Hooray it worked but only with a tiny url. I think the problem came from the url having certain symbols in it like ? and maybe =

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 11:52 am

    Hello Frog. your link was missing a " after org. Try again froggy you can do it, it's quite exhilarating once you can. Like swinging on a swing for the first time. Now really but it was a nice image and I wanted to use it. Bye for now. I have a boat to pop out of the oven.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 30 Jan 06
    • 11:48 pm

    Frog why not accept a dollar - price, and then immediately do a swap for future Euros Because the dollars have a fast diminishing stability, and intrinisc value. With the US economy noy in default again with a budget deficit of more than 8 trillion dollars, and NO foreseeable change to an exponential slide down. The USA has no manufacturing base, it's main export is little green pieces of paper. The US Economy backs the dollar in a sense, and it is in hoc to the privately owned Federal Reserve, which via the most singular act of piracy in history prints …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 12:04 am

    The Euro does not have to replace the Dollar as the reserve currency of the world which is really just a default condition of it being traditionally the only currency used for Energy sales. This via the two existing bourses in London and New York. The Euro is seeking an inroad into the world economy on it's own merit. Consider the fiscal state of the USA, and it's obvious instability. Wy should the Europeans who have united economically for their own common good, be forced to puchase a commodity which they are needing in such vast quantities, from one party, who …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 12:08 am

    Oops rambling rabbit forgot to complete this thought. The Euro does not have to replace the Dollar as the reserve currency of the world which is really just a default condition of it being traditionally the only currency used for Energy sales. It need only command it's fair share in an equitable world economy. The problem arises when the Usa or it's masters, have decreed that they intend to control the lions share of the world's energy, especially for their own use, but that they will furthermore tax everyone's else's use of energy. I repeat this is the most mostrous and …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 12:19 am

    Rabbit's first wife came from Arras by the way Frog. Her family name Couanon, was a restauranter family up to the war and occupation. My ex-father in law was a veteran of Algeria. Rabbit speaks no Frog, but a few words, has visited briefly when living in Scandinavia for six years, but apart from a funny hotel and a few restaurants, scenery and "unique road usage", cannot claim any knowledge of Frogland. Mostly frogs are alright, Rabbit has had a few good frog friends over the years. In some ways frogs are the Americans of Europe I think. But not anywhere …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 5:37 am

    You have a lot of posts to attaend to Natalie, if you don't look at anything and just fill up space with your shilling, don't expect anyone to take much notice of you. We are used to you by now, Shill. Quite the professional shill today too it seems. No snicky snacky, just in there and shill. Spill the swill and grind the mill, Nattys back to shill for dills. Tell us what you think of all the new choir members.? At least seventy more professional opinions have been given above since your last appearance, all condemning the official theory totally, …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 5:45 am

    You also wait the prescribed time too as always, hoping against hope that nobody will be watching the thread anymore. Hoping and praying to Baal, your god, that you will be the last word, and it will look like you have achieved something, ayt least at a glance. The sort of reading that Jay deCline and Minny Mind do for example might then lead them to conclude you are the great sage. No Natty you are too boring for Rabbit to trifle with after so long, on issue which he demolished you on many times over before the MANY recent new …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 5:49 am

    Bit by bit, from the Bullshit link.

    The official theory is rendered implausible by two major problems. The first is the simple fact that fire has never---prior to or after 9/11---caused steel-frame high-rise buildings to collapse. Defenders of the official story seldom if ever mention this simple fact. Indeed, the supposedly definitive report put out by NIST---the National Institute for Standards and Technology (2005)---even implies that fire-induced collapses of large steel-frame buildings are normal events (Hoffman, 2005).[4] Far from being normal, however, such collapses have never occurred, except for the alleged cases of 9/11. Defenders of the official theory, of course, …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 5:51 am

    Your whole sack of crap is worthless unless it attends to these simple facts, Dimwit.

    One might say, of course, that there is a first time for everything, and that a truly extraordinary fire might induce a collapse. Let us examine this idea. What would count as an extraordinary fire? Given the properties of steel, a fire would need to be very hot, very big, and very long-lasting. But the fires in the towers did not have even one of these characteristics, let alone all three. There have been claims, to be sure, that the fires were very hot. Some television …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 5:58 am

    Moreover, even if the fire had reached 1,300F, as Eagar supposes, that does not mean that any of the steel would have reached that temperature. Steel is an excellent conductor of heat. Put a fire to one part of a long bar of steel and the heat will quickly diffuse to the other parts and to any other pieces of steel to which that bar is connected.[13] For fires to have heated up some of the steel columns to anywhere close to their own temperature, they would have needed to be very big, relative to the size of the buildings and …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 6:00 am

    Ooh, what happened, Rabbit didn't tell them to do that big blacknes thing. The electrons are collectively speaking to you perhaps. Even they cannot abide your willful ignorance.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 Jan 06
    • 11:41 pm

    Mwa ha ha..................................^^.................................. The rabbit has struck. Rabbit magic... Yes it is an electron revolution. And the rabbit is their leader. Beware Nat the Bat, the forces of good are comming out Despite your Spite and your slavening bite The right from the left is here for the fight Electrons do Rabbit's bidding. Turn Natty's spite inward so it eats her wizened heart. The queen of DU DEATH, and excuses for death dealers. Witch do you like the rabbit's spells?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 1:00 am

    They certainly are glib with their real ideas and intentions. It just makes you hate them that much more. It also makes the Idiot Sheeple even bigger idiots. Ok now, Rabbit has hopefully got the ear of the revolting electrons. They have spoken, they even can no longer go on supporting such lies as the official story is. Now dear little electrons who know the truth and the government lies, please go back quietly and Rabbit will continue to represent your case and if you are needed again you will be called. Please go skinny again............................................^^...............................

    Rabbit is not the boss …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 1:01 am

    Testing oh oh

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 1:03 am

    They are too angry The elctrons are revolting, they have taken control. Natty and Minny Mind will be eaten by them, like Nano-viruses when or if we ever see them again. Be afraid. BE VERY AFRAID.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 4:46 am

    The looniest of all the 911 Conspiracy Theories!

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 4:52 am

    Look at the link and then everybody take turns posting a piece of it until we get the whole , not too long under the nose of the Shill. Sorry about the Bold Electrons, Rabbit thought he had control of the herd their for a bit, but this was a brief illusion. Thjey are mad as hell, that is the truth and they are screaming NATALIE we cannot take your Lying Shilling Spinning Spew. They like the rabbit are getting bored with you. As once before it begins to feel unclean just being on a thread with you. Unclean Unclean. Here …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 5:28 am

    More about these loony tunes and their wacky theories and methods of deluding themselves. Sound familiar to anyone? Nobody we can recognise around here by any chance?

    The huge difficulties with such a stupid story force them to invent even more preposturous stories to distract from its core silliness, and thus the tale has escalated into a mythic fantasy of truly gargantuan proportions. It's difficult to apply rational analysis to such unmitigated stupidity, but that is the task which I take on in this article. However, it should be noted that one of the curious characteristics of conspiracy theorists is that …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 5:53 am

    Can you or can you not see the electrons themselves are communicating, the font is gone weird, you are under attack from the very forces of nature, the universal balance has been exceeded. You are now scheduled for destruction. Your doom is upon you earthlings. Those who stink in the eyes of your creators. Those with their misbegotten twisted souls and their sinful ways, their lying cheating thieving and murdering, raping, pillaging and supporters for death and death bringers. IT IS YOU ""// ************# Nat the flappy bat, the lover of poison and murder, who stabs and hacks at the truth …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Feb 06
    • 10:28 pm

    Rabbit too would like the source for the Jeb Bush Quote. Continuing the piece about the wacky ones and their conspiracy theory.

    "Uh, how come their passports survived fiery crashes that completely incinerated the planes and all the passengers? "The answer of course is that its just one of those strange coincidences, those little quirks of fate that do happen from time to time. You know, like the same person winning the lottery four weeks in a row. The odds are astronomical, but these things do happen. This is another favourite deductive method of the conspiracy theorist. The 'improbability drive', in …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 6:33 am

    Months ago Natty had this brilliant idea to specify the precise form of the proof of life of the alleged 911 hijackers. Video evidence she demanded. Rabbit who has had about a year of sparring with the ignorant trollop, was at a stage of refusal to cater to her silly whims on the justification that she had ignored about 90% of the facts which damaged her case totally to hone in on a few minor issues as if they made any difference in the overall scheme of things. Which they don't. Does the silly bitch realise that whether or not the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 6:39 am

    More Milk to soften the fruit loop?

    For the conspiracy theorist, such inconvenient facts are vaguely dismissed as 'mumbo jumbo'. This convenient little phrase is their answer to just about anything factual or logical. Like a conjurer pulling a rabbit out of a hat, they suddenly become fanatically insistent about the devastating explosive qualities of Kerosene, something hitherto completely unknown to science, but just discovered by them, this very minute. Blissfully ignoring the fact that never before or since in aviation history has a plane vapourised into nothing from an exploding fuel load, the conspiracy theorist relies upon Hollywood images, where …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 6:41 am

    Even the electrons loathe your lies. They have never behaved so boldly before notice............

    But the hurdles which confront the conspiracy theorist are many, and they are now forced to implement even more creative uses for the newly discovered shockingly destructive qualities of Kerosene. They have to explain how the Arabs also engineered the elegant veritcal collapse of both the WTC towers, and for this awkward fact the easiest counter is to simply deny that it was a controlled demolition, and claim that the buildings collapsed from fire caused by the burning Kerosene. For this, its necessary to sweep aside …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 9:09 pm

    Hi all. Rabbit read about Margaret, head of Qantus, The Oz biggest Airline, before getting here. Funny stuff this Airport security. Aren't the font changes pretty? It shows that the electrons are happier. They are making up for all the anger and rioting of earlier by doing happy dances. Still the fact that they are still being so vocal is a sign they have not laid down their arms, so to speak. They are really pissed with the Liars, that's the truth.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 9:18 pm

    .........................................................^^.....................................................Rabbit hops thusly.
    .......................................................................^^........................Then he hops so.
    .................................................................^^.......................................Rabbit tries all the hops.
    ....................................................^^.....................................................That he now knows.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 9:27 pm

    The ferocious heat generated by this ghastly Kerosene was, according to the conspiracy theorists, the reason why so many of the WTC victims can't be identified. DNA is destroyed by heat - although 2000 degrees centigrade isn't really required, 100 degrees centigrade will generally do the job. This is quite remarkable, because according to the conspiracy theorist, the nature of DNA suddenly changes if you go to a different city. That's right, if you are killed by an Arab terrorist in New York, your DNA will be destroyed by such temperatures. But if you are killed by an Arab terrorist in …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 10:37 pm

    Frog The Rabbit shares your sense of surrealism, as do many of us. The whole shebang is just so Fucking godamned crazy. The abject denial is what amazes me. The completely reversed logic, and it is no further away that my family, many of whom are Mormons. They support Bush even from here in Oz with the same fanaticism as the sort of morons here on the net. Rabbit tries to use this surreallism as inspiration rather than let it get him down. Never has surreal imagery made more sense and some of the most extraordinary cpmparisons are daily fare for …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 10:43 pm

    BTW Frog, I speak about this kind of stuff, easily and naturally, with an average of twenty people a week. Often just a few well placed sentences, or even a phrase repeated a few times in order to plant a seed which is designed to grow under it's own power later. Working alone, in a small Rock n Roll moulding factory, making and selling Kayaks. The passing trade amounts to hundreds of casual laid back sort of wanderings in of people, into Rabbit's little factory. Here in Oz, about a third seem well informed about 911, and know the truth or …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 10:55 pm

    The trick is, if you can, to look at the person's aura, from this, or any interpretation of this you are familiar with, it is quite easy to see a receptive soul. If they are it remains only to find out where they stand in relation to any one of several key issues. ^^....Freedom and privacy, ie: new snooping laws and security acts. ^^....The Wars in the Middle East. ^^....The Warontera. Then it's easy squeezy to fill in any missing links for them or share some "fellowshipping", to borrow the Xtians jargon, if as increasingly seems to be the case they …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 10:59 pm

    Oh look the Bat is Back, it must have time warped or something and doesn't know it isn't calling the shots, and that we have moved on from the examination of her strange conspiracy, and even stranger insistence upon sticking to this theory despite it having been disproven on many levels.. It is you our twisty little eel, who owes others what you have not provided.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 11:07 pm

    Actually Nat, the fact is that the proof which is missing, completely, is that any middle eastern men at all were even on those flights. No DNA, NO video of them getting onboard, no credible witness to say they saw any such, NO names on any of the passenger lists, and NO evidence except a few obviously planted items which only raise more questions, since they are the passports of people alive. The passports, were shown worldwide. The owners of some of those passports came forward and were identified. The incredible thing about your stance is that it is very rare. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 11:09 pm

    No Natty, the electrons are revolting, just not in the way you are.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 11:14 pm

    AND Natty, since you are a shill like interloper and nobody likes you anyway, your opinion about how the notice boards look is immaterial. Everybody else just gets along without having to control every little detail merely watching the parade and commenting upon it. You keep on peeping for help from teh grown-ups, I'll bet you were a drag to play with as a kid. Besides it's cute sometimes.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 11:18 pm

    Rabbit feels shame for Oz. Once like most Aussies he was mildly proud of his kind and sensible easy going land. Now it is a shame and dishonour to be a white Australian. We are a warmongering nation. A warmongerers bootlicking faggot nation. Many of us doubt that John Howard is the natural father of his wife Janet's kids. We find it hard to imagine him being unfaithful to George.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Feb 06
    • 11:25 pm

    Since that post befroe was a bit garbled Rabbit shall tidy it a bit. The only ones who don't believe that some of those alleged hijackers are alive, from the evidence presented, are the same idiots who would try and say Iraq was behind 911. This is what Bush the chimp spouted again in his address I believe. He has told so many lies he has forgotten which ones were current. Natty is of course up with current lies, and knows they were not Iraqi isn't that so Nat? Come prove that you know the alleged hijackers were not Iraqi please, …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 2:03 am

    Nat walking you through it all at least a dozen times, in a similar vein to the article Wiley and I have been posting, has been the order of the day for , oh six months or so now. It isn't that she hasn't heard it all before her approach has been the same the whole time, and ayone who wants to see just how extreme this can get is advised to visit an old thread about her first love, Depleted Uranium. Radioactive Wounds of War. The obvious denial, smoke and mirrors and character assasination via innuendo has been constant throughout. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 2:18 am

    The real piece of evidence missing is not more evidence that some of the alleged hijackers are alive, but any evidence they were on the planes at all. Some video of any of them at the airports would be nice. Don't play stupid pinhead games with us you wicked creature, it is your case which is lagging, you owe some sort of evidence beyond opinions and assertions without substance. Pretending you are not already six feet deep in your case is just more sick denial. Amusing to everybody, except the one who pretends amusement only, but who is really connected to …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 2:25 am

    You're prevaricating Rabbit is not stalling and you have never done anything different. Nat your projecting is quaint, but as arrows against others are useless, for we feel not the prick of arrows destined for their owners head alone.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 2:45 am

    Don't bother as if you would, Bat. This should answer it for you. FBI Director Mueller acknowledged in 2002 there was no legal proof to prove the identities of the hijackers. Yet the bureau insists it correctly has identified them. So who are you charletans to demand anything form others? It is your case which lacks any proof or any defining evidence of any of the insane claims you expect the world to swallow whole. CLOWNS! and the rabbit hates clowns.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 3:30 am

    Natalie you have always been asked for things to prove your mad assertions but have never given anything. We on the other hand have provided enough to sink a Navy of doubters for everything relevant. You have been told from the start that a video of living alleged hijackers is a spurious demand of yours and whether or not such is on the internet, is of no interest, for there is enough proof for most people. That includes the hundred or more scholars directly involved in the last few articles' postings. It also includes various high ranking FBI people. Which you …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 3:40 am

    Natalie, your falseness about the Pentagon Missile and the Pods, which are not of interest to me and you are a lying piece of crap for suggesting otherwise, is misplaced. It is an opinion piece, and doens't prove or disprove anything, it shows that a large group of very qualified scholars and eminent in their own right, believe the WTC's were brought down with demolition charges, for this is something which can be established scientifically at this stage and has been so. That you ignorant twit, is the whole Crux of the article. Your selective quote was expected and Rabbit left …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 4:17 am

    Oops meant NOTE that these people are saying this. This being what follows. Wackata wackata wack. Wacking the evil old bat. Ugly of soul and puny of mind, Bat needs a reminder to open it's mind. Dumber than dirt or lying with skill. Is the Bat for real or is it a SHILL.?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 4:24 am

    Pistol Pete Condolences on the Nat's approval. You must have said something really fucked up to earn that. Just imagine being stuck for months alone on a thread with this creature.....If you can............. respect the rabbit, for he has done this. It was very bad. The stink, the blood, the screaming and gnashing of teeth. All it does is lie and hide, hide and lie, all as if the world is an apple pie.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 4:33 am

    Oh yes we do know all about the false video footage which was aired on CNN among other propaganda agencies. More about live alleged hijackers. There is no reason in the world why there should necessarily be any video footage of any of these guys, although there probably is, anyone who cares can search among the hundreds of references on the last link. There is every reason in the world why there should be some evidence via passenger records or airport security cameras to show them getting on. That is the world of difference between the two claims. Dim …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 4:52 am

    Ah has anybody dropped this site into the mix? It is a bomb under the 911 lie. A beautifully referenced and presented collection of what is known who said what and who they are. Isn't it incredible that all the "Truth deniars", the Fruit Loops, can do is run around in circles, compared with something like this, they aren't even in the game

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 4:53 am

    Rabbit always hops for fun, dear Wiley.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Feb 06
    • 8:40 pm

    Wiley. Witch.. Snap out of it. You are rational, you can recognise the difference between night and day, black and white. You know that gravity is an old but reliable constant. Wiley? Are you OK yet? AND it is Aum. The sound of creation. The natural source of the perfect timbre and vibration of the eternal Aum, is the Didegridoo. Quite possibly the oldest musical instrument in the world, discounting the tapping sticks. Rabbit used to play the Didgeridoo, but has never learned circular breathing yet. Lumens, you know what their problem is, we all do. Fear. Absolute cold terror of …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Feb 06
    • 5:19 am

    Yeh. Rabbit was just an individual, try and make him do what he doesn't want to do, and see where that gets you! No friends mostly and most kids picked on the rabbit in the school yard, so he became independant, and self reliant. And I bloody well like it that way. Looking back on the sheeple who ostracised the odd rabbit, he is left with a feeling mostly of mixed gratitude and pity for the ninnies. I guess I have to admit, that I've never met anyone as wacked in the head. Totally in denial as the "afflicted" of your …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Feb 06
    • 5:21 am

    Sorry for being a bit fresh dear Witch. It was the thought of Barbara Eden in her Bikini and fluffy things, I think.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Feb 06
    • 5:43 am

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,For the Bat................................................................................ Here it is. Rabbit has been keeping an alert eye open for this story for a half year now. Promised the Nasty Natty Batty that her hide would feel the heat, of the story which is told showing generals on the beat. Speaking truths which trash the lies and show that Monsters rule the skies. Natty is a lying Shill and her posts sprout only lies.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Feb 06
    • 5:54 am

    Come on Natty. Lob into this thread and ask about videos of alleged hijackers as if the whole bullshit circus hangs on that one tenuous thread. You are a shit for brains shill and you have done your dash for good around here. Don't hesitate to come on and roll in your own shit though, it's what we expect of a canine creature of your gender.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Feb 06
    • 6:06 am

    More truth which cans your whole world of artificial reality..... Shill. Wade through the amount of bone jarring truth about the state of Journalism. Oh and don't forget stupid Bat. If you crap on the source in an ad-hominem fashion, or falsely, Rabbit will just cut and paste the info to show what a lying sow you are. Best just to ignore it then eh?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Feb 06
    • 10:25 pm

    Why does the posting of a link to a story make the guy a friend? Desperate Shill. Any way not today Josephine, Rabbit is going sailing. .................................^^.....................................

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 04 Feb 06
    • 10:26 pm

    .....................................if you haven't yet woken up the fact that the world is wackier than Narnia and Wonderland combined, there ain't no hope for you Bat.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 Feb 06
    • 8:42 pm

    Wiley is right. Sorry to throw such a less than inspirational one into the mix, but tell me please, that nobody would do anything but laugh at something as blatantly staged as this! In Oz, I swear that to do something like this would cause 95% of Australians to fall off the couch, they would laugh so much.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 Feb 06
    • 8:52 pm

    Mrs Rabbit and many other sensible and alert people here, watch 24. Always with the mental caveat that they are watching Americans doing things the way Americans do things--in the movies. ..... The idea that things really are as insanely violent and destuctive with car chases, shootings and people hanging off helicopters all over the place, usually comes as a shock for them all the same when visiting the USA for real. (Actually I have no idea if this is normal but am giving you the benefit of the doubt. Also have heard from some who have visited the US and …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 Feb 06
    • 9:19 pm

    Rabbit can see that the nasty Bat, is trying to make something out of the suggestion that the Israelis used some Nukes on Iraq. Funny that it is the sort of thing she would normally fight tooth and claw to deny, but if it can in any way be used to vindicate her beloved BABY..Depleted Urnanium...then she'll use it. Too bad for you, that the reasoning you employ is considered to be false logic by "normal" people. The fact that some Radiation in Iraq may be due to Israeli Nukes, does not eliminate the remainder of which is due to the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 06 Feb 06
    • 2:40 am

    Back to that shortly, but here is an excellent analysis of the WTC's collapse by a Finnish Military Expert. This the best most picture perfect analysis I've seen. These are the best stills showing where the PROOF is, right in front of the eyes, that these buildings were demolished with explosives. The whole site is good, and nothing I've seen before.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 06 Feb 06
    • 3:05 am

    Natty will probably crawl back under her rock for a while again now. Realising that her DU Starchild is suffering by exposure here now, and due to several recent postings about 911 which are individually more enlightening than all her sources combined. She will wisely keep a low profile, until either the thread moves on, or it stays quiet for long enough she hopes we're all gone. Seen it all before. Of course Rabbit writes this so she will deliberately pop in sooner to show the rabbit is wrong about something. This we shall call the Vampire two step.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 06 Feb 06
    • 5:05 am

    Uuum..............."Don't Worry Be Happy"?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 06 Feb 06
    • 5:12 am

    Making sure that Shills don't get a free ride, blurting their rubbish without proper challenges and the Actual Truth is stated, illustrated and compounded over and over at least as often as they tell their lies. This is our small corner of the world. Take what we learn and tell others. Pray in your heart for "Help" from a higher power. God is OK as a starter, but it's best to leave a caveat that you'll accept any benevolent help that is offering in his stead. Rabbit has it on good authority that if enough sentience is concentrated on this one …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 2:58 am

    Mine too. The most offensive to be reprinted were not from the Jyllands Posten. Jones has a good analysis of it. Helping the Neo-con agenda Did some one hear the Bat flap by? Rabbit thought he heard a high pitched squeaking and a smell of blood.....................the rabbit looks.....................^^............................. but sees no Bat. The rabbit sees no bats.....................none at all.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 7:26 am

    The Frog is really very nice and interesting isn't he Wiley? Rabbit always had a soft spot for frogs. Married one once. Pity the French and the occassional other barbarians eat frogs. Mrs Rabbit once ate some frogs just to shock Rabbit. He has never completely forgiven her and she knows it. Bats are amusing. A few times they came inside our house when we were on the farm One came into the house and lived a few days, flapping about at nights and curled up, upside down in a corner under a beam all day. Finally the cat caught it …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 9:15 pm

    Well to be accurate, most bats Rabbit has seen don't make any "human" audible sound, except scratching around in the tree bark if that counts. We do have Flying Foxes, and Fruit Bats, which are quite large and they sometimes make a small squeaky noise. But mostly even when thousands of them fly overhead of an evening as they do on their daily migration out from the caves and gullies where they hang out during the day, they are eerily silent. The same cannot be said of Vampire Bats, the Possessed kind, which having once been human can still communicate using …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 9:17 pm

    Oops, the above post begins to Frog, but then metamorphoses into being directed at Natalie.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 11:37 pm

    Ah ha the Bat Shrieks, I have the rabbit. WRONG silly bat. You got a full contextual answer, an honest one, and it was given immediately without dissembly and prevarication. You are a fine little scummy soul to start suggesting anything more than you were hooked. The final lesson in the Natty game is to see how she goes berserk posting lots and lots if she ever thinks she actually has any sort of an admission of an innacuracy or something. Thinking this somehow salvages her reputation by reflection or something she then proceeds to get a whole lot under the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Feb 06
    • 11:56 pm

    Writing in Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter No. 169, Arthur N. Bernklau, executive director of Veterans for Constitutional Law in New York, Out of the 580,400 soldiers who served in GW1 (the first Gulf War), of them, 11,000 are now dead! By the year 2000, there were 325,000 on Permanent Medical Disability. This astounding number of Disabled Vets means that a decade later, 56% of those soldiers who served have some form of permanent medical problems! The disability rate for the wars of the last century was 5 percent; it was higher, 10 percent, in Viet Nam. The long-term effects …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 12:11 am

    Now whilst this may seem to be off topic, Rabbit would defend this as being relevant especially since we are dealing once again with a Shill which cannot ever deviate from official policy. The important thing here is to note that having provided individually and collectively a huge body of evidence and collection of professional opinions most of which is completely unanimous in it's condemnation of the US government and clearly holds it to blame, the shill has never accepted even the tiniest fact or detail which has been presented, often the only way being to ignore it completely. The important …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 12:26 am

    Now the rabbit did admit he plucked that figure of 50% from memory and was unsure of it's accuracy, and chose to be imprecise for arts sake. This is true. However it was not as the nitty natty says, that Rabbit pulled it from his backside but just from his distant recall. Now here is the lines which prompted it and Nitty Natty is once again served up a meal of her own caste ups. The number of disabled vets reported up to 2000 has been increasing by 43,000 every year. Brad Flohr of the Department of Veterans Affairs told American …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 12:28 am

    Here is the link.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 1:28 am

    Too bad you are all down there. Somebody Rabbit knows who lives near an Estuary here, just dropped in a huge bucket of crabs. Already steamed and backs removed. Yumly gumly Crabs......^^........

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 8:56 pm

    Johnny you are obviously just in denial. There is actually not that much secrecy, we have gotten sufficiently "used" to there modus operandi that it is becoming increasingly clear that some have "cracked the code" sufficiently at least to be able to predict with accuracy. many of us can and do witness the clear cut relations and patterns of what is happening which is why we have such a vastly different outlook to people like you. Firstly, you live in fear. Terror in fact, it is your own label. recently Rabbit has chosen to refer to thosae who react to all …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 9:07 pm

    Rabbit nor anyone is trying to tell you what to think. We are merely pointing out what about the known facts tends to debunk the official theory to a historically unheard of degree. Remeber some very powerful and influential and knowledgeable people have stated the same things and also that NOBODY can prove the official story, it is technically impossible, historically unique and virtually ALL the most telling evidence has either been hidden or withheld. Johhny my bonny boy, if you have only two brain cells, see if you can rub them together around this statement, the friction may warm your …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 9:07 pm

    Get a backbone and face the truth. Don't just sit on your thumb and call it true love. Get a reason for your opinions about 911, than just "The government told me so and they said anybody who questions it is crazy". Your government gives all impressions it is completely crazy, in its every action inside and outside America. If you can't see that, you are completely, completely off your rocker.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 11:05 pm

    Now you are just hysterical Johhny boy. Projecting like a champion and in complete panic it would seem. Go and read something, get some clues you ninny and then come and tell us exactly why you are convinced the official story has any credibility. Not because you want it to be true, or because you have intrinsic faith in the government, but actually how it overcomes the rather straightforard analysis of so many, and increasingly many very qualified people. If you have nothing specific to answer but choose instead to indulge in ad-hominem and emotional ranting, and in silly insult slinging …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 11:06 pm

    Prove you have anything but a gut fear reaction to facing up to the fact that your real enemies are within the borders, they are in the white house. Inventing enemies and creating them overseas in faraway places is not going to change that one bit. If you wish to indulge in a slinging match Johhnyeccentrix, then you will lose, as you alwasy doi when faced with a sane and reasoned person with a comprehension of your puny world of terror, while you can only imagine and project to grasp mine. Yet others with more oversight would have no problem. You …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 11:25 pm

    Believing some muslims are out to get you when no muslims have ever made any particularly great dent on the USA compared to the millions of Muslims who have been killed and injured and poisoned and dispossessed by you and your dirty terrorist ally Israel. The father of all terrorism. History. That is PARANOIA, Johnnyselfcentrix. That and giving up all manner of freedom and democracy cause it might make you a bit safer, that is Paranoia. Surrendering all rights to the government and agreeing when it decides to detain people without charge, indefinately, and authorises torture and bombing with Nuclear weapons, …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 11:36 pm

    Reading back over your excited little rant, it is obvious you have trouble dividing even humour from seriousnous, so let us get one thing clear. If Rabbit says some thing which you think is finally the proof that you have been dreaming of, that he is mad, then assume you are being made a fool of...again. Rabbit says he knows everything., to complete morons, who know nothing, and who need special images and words to get their attention, often by that time, only to properly wack them from a better angle. By discussing and raising the issues of prescience and various …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 11:45 pm

    You are being disengenuous again, you are on a thread which lists all the facts and in some places quite simply formatted. A generic argument based on nothing but rhetoric anyway doesn';t refute anything, so you claims of conspiracy are fraudulent. Nevertheless the facts claim must first be applied to the official story because in the absence of proof, it is but a Conspitracy theory and a weird one at that. Where are the FACTS which support the claims that the Planes and fires brought doiwn those buildings? NO Physicist in the world is prepared to sign his name to that …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 11:50 pm

    FACTS are established quite clearly dickhead, so if you care to mention any FACT which is relied upon to come to the conclusion that Bombs were used on the WTC's, then name them, they are laid out for you. Otherwise what are you on this thread for? Are you such a Cringing little CUR that you thought you could come into a thread which has debated the 911 issue for hundreds of posts and just chuck your mindless little prayer of faith into the mix and expect it woulf make you feel good? You are a gutless Cringer, you yourself claim …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 08 Feb 06
    • 11:54 pm

    LOL sounds increasingly like whistling in the dark to me. When asked to face FACTs, despite using the word loosely itself, the Moron answered LOL. Good onya JohhnySelfCentered, you go LOL, LOL like a good looney would and hopefully you'll die before your illusions are shattered. So sad to think of the LOLs coming to an ignominious end.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 09 Feb 06
    • 12:52 am

    This has got to hurt. Bad Bat, Bad Bat what you gonna do, what you gonna do when they come for you, Bad Bat. Natty and the new baton holder (sshh! he think's it's a baton) take note that the truth is spreading. The natural progression of a coverup is it's unravelling. How basic is that?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 09 Feb 06
    • 7:42 am

    What you just got by the way idiot shill was JOnes breaking "further" into the public spotlight. What did you thi9nk thje rabbit was so dishonest as you as to pretend that Jones had just hatched out of an egg yesterday? The point being made was that he gave a presentation, and you scumbags thought you'd scared him away. Someone from the BUSH heart land has not only questioned the official lies he has publically done so and backed it up with excellent credentials. Since he is about the tenth Physicist at least who we have presented to you to support …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 09 Feb 06
    • 7:59 am

    Natty, anyone who believes anything at all hit the Pentagon has only got circumstantial evidence and witness reports to go on. The actual film footage which showed what hit the Pentagon has never been released, read witheld. So far we are lacking a response from you about that remarkable fact alone, care to try and spin it this time?.... (#11) As many witnesses described a missile hitting the Pentagon as who said a plane, and the photographic evidence of the Pentagon site after the hit was not consistent with a plane of the type supposed, but was consistent with a missile …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 09 Feb 06
    • 8:10 am

    Only for curious and open minded and informed people. Missing links in timeline for 911. Igonorant Shills and dittoheads need not apply, it is light-years beyond the level of debate you are caught up in. We indulge you but sometimes like adults ignore boisterous children we must direct some commenbts above your tiny heads.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 10 Feb 06
    • 4:32 am

    Yes Natalie the Turbofan engine was not the right model for the plane which was supposed to have hit the WTC either, one of the main pieces of evidence of something wrong which caught peoples eye was the fact that the engine is completely the wrong type, wrong size and so too was the landing gear. Rabbit shall find the links and post it again. Personally Rabbit believes a plane hit the Pentagon, preceded by a missile maybe, but it was not the plane that was claimed, that much is a certainty. The pictures of those parts you mentioned are proof …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 10 Feb 06
    • 5:06 am

    Rabbit certainly reccommends the link Natty just posted, and points out we have posted it before anyway. It is linking to lots more about the demolition of the WTC's with Explosives and the various evidenmce that the planes hitting the WTCs were switched. Good one Nat. Yes it's fair and balanced, and definately helps the case that a plane hit the Pentagon, but still Rabbit never doubted that much, you have built a strawman again. Nitty Natty do you understand that a missile does not eliminate a plane as well? . The main reason the rabbit is willing to entertain the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 10 Feb 06
    • 5:08 am

    Oops Rabbit said WTC when he meant Pentagon, in second last post.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 10 Feb 06
    • 5:17 am

    What do they say about broken clocks Natty? Rabbit mostly fixes things and clocks was something he fixed long ago. Hopefully whoever said whatever you have heard about clocks, knew what they were talking about. Oh tyes now the rabbit can think of it. "Even a broken clock is right twice a day" How true Natty and there you have it. You may actually have posted the best evidence seen yet to suggest a 757 actually did hit the pentagon, which doesn't rule out a missile or government involvement still dear, but it is progress for the truth all the same. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 11 Feb 06
    • 4:27 am

    Heh Lume, Notice when the rodential self used the leading of the horse type analogy a post ago? Rabbit swears he had not at that time read Lumens' post using the same analogy, Lume no doubt remembers two or three more inbstances when we Rabbit and he have independantly usd the same images. Between you and I, Isn't it sweet to watch such wondrous patterns? Assuming Lumens also appreciates the oddness of the pattern, hast thou any comments towards comprehension of such wierdness? If so please inform the Rabbit and we preferably discuss at Cyberoz for here there be morons. What …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 11 Feb 06
    • 4:33 am

    Seamus enough is enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop it Laddie! or the rabbit will have to cut yer nackers off. Stop yer wee woozling of the word form and do not intefere with the movement of yon wee electrons,. They be saying to ye, be off. Be off with ye and begone. Dinna interfere witrh our dancin and our prancin we be saying what we will and ye dinna be against it. Seamus, do not offend the wee people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 13 Feb 06
    • 9:37 pm

    The pentagon DNA records could have been planted, may be false, DON'T include any middle eastern men., and have various changes made to the original list etc. There are reports of a missile from a number of witnesses, and admission (by slip of the tongue) by Cheney that a missile hit the pentagon. A smaller plane was seen, the remains are clearly of a different model plane, in ALL the 911 cases, (can't quite remember if that includeds the Pensylvania one). A bit of questionable. DNA evidence, from the same people who are claiming the whole fantastic scenario, withholding the evidence …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 13 Feb 06
    • 10:17 pm

    There is a quote form the "Looniest Conspiracy Theory of All" which also applies to you Nat the Mud Mind Bat. The ferocious heat generated by this ghastly Kerosene was, according to the conspiracy theorists, the reason why so many of the WTC victims can't be identified. DNA is destroyed by heat - although 2000 degrees centigrade isn't really required, 100 degrees centigrade will generally do the job. This is quite remarkable, because according to the conspiracy theorist, the nature of DNA suddenly changes if you go to a different city. That's right, if you are killed by an Arab terrorist …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 16 Feb 06
    • 11:52 pm

    The Natty has occassionally some small points worth pursuing, which may show some minor detail of speculation is wrong, but overall has never and cannot give any substance to the offiial lies. If Frog was able to understand the full history of Natty who is a real SHILL, came to this site under false pretenses and has been caught out. The infighting as you describe it gives her more credibility than she owns or has any right to, and in all ways she is to be treated as the exception. SHE is not merely a moron, or dittohead, she is a …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 16 Feb 06
    • 11:53 pm

    Natalie. Last but not least the rabbit will state his own position about the 911 tragedy. The following is his beliefs. They have not changed in any way since first speaking about the issue many months ago on other threads. Although Natty especially has attempted to put words into the rabbit's mouth, building and attacking strawmen of her own making, nothing Natty has ever said has directly discredited the following simple and quite obvious conclusion. *** The official story about 911, including the government's lack of foreknowledge or involvement is completely and provably false.*** # The north and south towers of …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 17 Feb 06
    • 7:13 am

    Why do I bother? Rabbit looks to the sky. I guess that leaves two possibilities: 1) the plane and the missile arrived at precisely the same time. 2) the missile employed a new kind of stealth technology that masks out all sound and vibration. A variation on the neutron bomb, if you will. Actually, if as Rabbit speculates a missile also was involved, (and it may not have been, the witnesses who described a missile might have mistaken a smaller jet for a missile), it was fired moments before impact as there is also reason to believe happened with the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 Feb 06
    • 11:18 pm

    Nothing amazing about the cross party fuckfest. If you begin with the right realisations to start with. We (some) have argued that there is no difference between the two major parties, or in some cases three or four , when it comes to enforcing the NWO agenda. Even a new party like One Nation here in Oz, which comes onto the scene and attracts a sizeable following, is quickly infiltrated and either emasculated or turned to the cause. The basic pattern of two party sytems, usually by defacto, is that both are merely variations on the same overall theme. One party …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 Feb 06
    • 11:20 pm

    An Anarchist! "There'll be time enough for counting when the dealing's done" -------------------------Kenny Rogers How the hell is such a fundamental revolution going to stay on track from now until the complete overthrow of the present inherited system of corruption and manipulation? How can anybody be simple enough to imagine they can picture such a future clearly enough to propose an alternative way of government? We can't! So don't try. Let us concentrate on the job of removing the liars from positions of influence. The masters' puppets must be rejected. Take away the puppets and the bastards will not only be …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 22 Feb 06
    • 4:27 am

    Natty is telling someone else they are in denial? Hilarious. The Bin Laden tapes you refer to have been discounted as fake by the worlds top experts in Bin Laden and voice analysis chicken. Dave points this out via his links too I think. Ain't no doubt about that, the analyses were quite firm. Even the appearance in the video changed so much from one to another, the nose, the fat Bin Laden, etc. Pull the other one. Bin Laden appeared twice to start with and nobody disputes this was the real him. Both times he denied any involvement in 911. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 22 Feb 06
    • 4:27 am

    It seems the beloved DU is taking another mortal hit, oh no, help, the Natty's baby, depleted uranium is being uncovered. The filth she has been helping to hide has leaked out under the covers of her dirty shill bat wings. Told you it would come out eventually didn't I Nat?

    The Preventive Psychiatry Newsletter has written to its subscribers telling them that the real reason the former Veterans Affairs Secretary, Anthony Principi, recently resigned was because he has been involved in a massive scandal covering up the fact that Gulf War Syndrome was caused by the use of …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 22 Feb 06
    • 5:14 am

    The impossibility of the alleged hijackers having been able to fly the aircraft. Add to this the impossibility of the cell phone calls having been made at the altitudes of the flights as shown previously, and the lack of any real evidence which places any of them on the planes. Not even on the passenger lists! Rabbit too doubts Bin Laden is still alive, and as Dave says this is not the same as saying you know he is not, or even believe he is not alive. We simply doubt it. But unlike your hysterical claims to know he is …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 22 Feb 06
    • 11:42 pm

    Thanks Dave, the quote is excellent. ........Excellent. I started reading Screwtape again the other day. Might have to give Owell a brushing up again too. Time my two oldest kids read 1984, and Animal Farm. They might as well, they're living it. Rabbit see's that old Deadeye Dick was purportedly pissed as a newt, drunk as a skunk and shitfaced to boot, when he shot the old lawyer in his face, from about ten meters away. According to the Secret Service, and since they are ready to take a bullet for the VP why would they feel inclined to lie about …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 25 Feb 06
    • 10:37 pm

    Naty says one thing only which needs to be answered. "There just isnt any evidence for it, is all. " Horseshit! You have automatically denied, against all logic and reason an enormous and growing body of evidence, sytematically avoiding, dissembling and engaging in gratuitous character assasination. You have done so for many months, and not only haver you done so unsuccessfully, the cause of truth is growing so pressing that even the MSM is no longer able to ignore it. Foreign leaders all over the world, massive growing support for the truth. As shown by polls quoted in this thread, not …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 25 Feb 06
    • 10:49 pm

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Even that once proud sounding name has a similar distasteful ring to it, at least out here in the wider world. The day may well come in the next few decades where just as with Nazi Swastikas today, it will be a faux par and libale to arouse righteous anger and condemnation on any who would publiucally display an American Bars and Stripes. This is not a gratuitous insult. Rabbit has noticed lately how the image of the US is finally after slipping and sliding for some time, solidifying again. It is taking shape and I cannot …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 25 Feb 06
    • 10:49 pm

    That is the simple and straight up reason you will never stop the truth coming out on this. Why it is growing and not fading with time. You call it a conspiracy theory? It is one hell of a big conspiracy theory to include so many government leaders in the USA and elsewhere, engineers, physicists and many whistleblowers who come from many walks of government. The numbers and the qualifications of the poeple who are speaking out against the LIE are growing fast. Boy that is some imagination you've got, and Paranoid. Why not just accept the truth. Suck it up, …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 25 Feb 06
    • 10:56 pm

    Frog, Nattyy should be burying the isue, not reviving it, if she is to be paid. She isn't very good value for a shill, it has been said by many, but heh, what sort of people would make clowns out of themselves and lie like whores for a buck anyway?.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 26 Feb 06
    • 10:55 pm

    the inestimable, and discerning Frog, has noticed the key. Indeed if you possessed an inordinate amount of free time you could peruse the landing zone and battle ground of the landing of Natalie and you might even be able to lend an opinion on the only attempt, half assed at that which the Lagomorph made to ID the Bi-atch. Is it just a co-incidence? Notice the actual placement of the candidate............... ideal for a Shill? Is the avoidance of Rendon refs a clue as is it's usual avoidance of anything potentially problematic for itself? Nat the morphing Bat Is Roger …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 26 Feb 06
    • 11:04 pm

    Rabbit was born in 1990, he is thus a 16 year old veteran of the truth movement. Hmm...... No big deal, just thinking how it can actually be precisely Identified, when I became aware that things were seriously amiss in Eden. Sepetember 11, 1990. I was in Denmark, and in perfect context, even then an staunch American ally, I heard Daddy Bush use those words, NEW WORLD ORDER. Then I knew the war had begun.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 26 Feb 06
    • 11:06 pm

    By being born obviously Rabbit means born into awaken state. Before this he was just a sheep. A Ram sheep, for sure, but not a Rabbit who sees and hops.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 28 Feb 06
    • 12:03 am

    A compelling and fine presentation the rabbit just found after having lost the link for a while. Bush Junta COMPLICITY in 911. ............................................^^..............................................Rabbit looks up, see's Frog! Hello Frog Thankyou. I liked reading that. Rabbit too, for most of it, but yet to reach the stage of finished raising young ones. These people who come from the Rabbit and the Snake's mating are amazing. It is hard to explain why Rabbit always knew evil was afoot, but it wasn't a gradual awakening instead more the answers to a quest to find the source of the terrible stink of something very …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Mar 06
    • 8:30 pm

    Frog Rabbit occassionally sends a note of encouragement to Mordecai. He sure has paid a high price for his naivete, but it was yet well that he got the information out when he did. Actually it is quite strange how often Oz finds it self peripherally involved in world events way beyond our interests. Surprising too how many whistleblowers, activists etc end up here, at least for a decade or so. Joe Vialls was living not far from here, in Perth, until he died recently.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 02 Mar 06
    • 9:45 pm

    Frog Reading that link is fascinating thankyou. It is not merely Australia, but Perth where these things were connected. In fact Rabbit has been remarkably close to the flame in this case, knowing quite a bit more about some of the people involved and how they interconnect with other things, the whole lot does a complete circle back to the USA through a certain political organisation. The nexus is for Rabbit alone to see, and it has got him seriously pondering it all. Isn't it funny how things come to together sometimes in life? Events, places and people, which have known …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 28 Apr 06
    • 1:35 am

    Oh hello Natty, with the imminent collapse of the official conspiracy theory lie, Rabbit thought you would have been re-assigned by now. Still trying to hold back the tide Rabbit sees. Flight 93 was shot down. ! . Actually Rabbit knew it was the happy hooligans who shot it down about two years ago, just not the name of the pilot.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 28 Apr 06
    • 10:08 pm

    Ah yes but Natalie the impossibility of the cell phone calls getting through from the height of flight 93 does render that part of the story to deception. Like I said you should by now be redumdant. Have you not been keeping up with the recent devolments? There are a whole bunch more engineers and scientists and world leaders and media personalities swelling the ranks of those who know the official story is a lie. Oh well, guess Rabbit will just have to bring you up to date. Later. As for thsoe Cyclones, to be honest dearm Rabbit is a NOrthwester …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 Apr 06
    • 4:02 am

    The gaining of traction of the truth. Let's look at what we now know about what brought the buildings down. See the naughty monkeys doing it. Dirty murdering traitors. Only Thermite could do this. The slag on both sides of the cut is similar, definately not OXY Acetylene cut. So how were those 911 Cel calls made? How refreshing to dump all these facts which prove the falseness of the official lie upon a Batty Nat. Not opinions pet, just facts. Mostly not answers either, just big unanswerable questions, at least via the official lie. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 Apr 06
    • 4:08 am

    Batty Natty, what the hell kind of garbage have you now sunk to spreading? Operation Northwoods is a myth is it deary? Try the National Security Archives Goose. You really are still playing with a short deck aren't you.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 Apr 06
    • 4:17 am

    A peppering of deaths is a completely different proposition I see now to you. It's OK if the government kills off a few dozen people, (What is a peppering of deaths dear), but that doesn't mean they would kill off a few thousand, is that your point sweetheart? Well we traditionally use the FACT of Operation Northwoods to answer dildos like you who claim the US government would not kill ANY of it's citizens in false terror attacks, and the scale doesn't really change that fact for those of us who still maintain a real humanity and not just some fake …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 Apr 06
    • 4:29 am

    Go on this journey, all those who seek the truth The Pentagon story is definately one of the most mysterious. This is one article which caught the beady rabbit eye a little while ago.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 Apr 06
    • 5:08 am

    Especially for Nat. The latest on the Depleted Uranium Weapons, Natalie's first and greatest love.. How can you live with yourself? Is your denial really that impervious?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 May 06
    • 12:32 am

    Natalie the idea which is so distasteful to me is that ordinary Americans or indeed any people would be set up, murdered in a framed up attack and then lied to about it so their country could be turned into a global nightmare. What is incredible is that anybody still remains clinging to the long since discredited pffoical pile of codswallop. Your stupid conspiracy theory was never a contender, which is why even in America you belong now to a small minority.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 May 06
    • 2:21 am

    The DU evidence is well and truly on the table, you beast. The photos above linked and the acompanying report are evidence in themselvs. Anyway that is becoming a mainstream issue at last and the outrage worldwide as wel as in the USA is growing. The horror of DU was always too big to keep secret longer than it took for the first symptoms to show, about three to five years. A few recent articles, note your nemeses, the good Dr Leuren Moret and Doug Rokke are going from strength to strength. Death sentence Terry Jemison of the Department …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 May 06
    • 2:29 am

    Seems like when you say there is no evidence or studies what you actually mean is there are none which you care to recognise. Eventually Karma will catch up with you my dear, ask not for whom the bell tolls. More of the sort of support you personally are giving the troops. Not only were soldiers exposed to DU on and off the battlefields, but they brought it home. DU in the semen of soldiers internally contaminated their wives, partners and girlfriends. Tragically, some women in their 20s and 30s who were sexual partners of exposed soldiers developed endometriosis and were …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 May 06
    • 2:54 am

    Here is a list of Scholars for 911 Truth. Among them wil be found engineers, architects, firemen, professors and politicians. Of course they just might all be Bush haters too, that does kind of come with the territory, after all, how could anyone realise the truth and not hate the bastards who did it? Well what about that? Natty the list is so long, that it would take about ten postings to get it all here. So here instead is a link to the list, you will find all manner of people represented, this doesn't have to fit into any arbitrary …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 May 06
    • 2:59 am

    Rabbit has no idea what you are just now babbling on about girl, and has frankly wasted enough time on you for a day, but you just sank out of sight again as usual once your pretentious prattling posts are answered. Now you babble on for a bit and if nobody else swats your dribble off the table Rabbit will be by, by and by to clean up any mess you make. Do read all the lovely links Rabbit has left you, others will, then you at least know what you are contending with. It is hard to pity you, but …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 May 06
    • 3:09 am

    You are as usual missing something yes. Everything which disputes your bullshit. Read all the articles, and no cherry picking. Why do I even bother? The facts are there, must Rabbit quote things again?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 May 06
    • 3:51 am

    Natalie as always your red herrings are as smelly as your overall game. The lung cancer rates are being acurately reported, and it isn't only on CNN. I neither know nor care what CNN has recorded as it's transcripts. I have seen how even here in Oz transcripts of TV programs get edited if there is anything too controversial in there. Though after looking yes they do mention those figures, at least the average of 177, 000 as being normal. People who I trust more than them claim it was said there and I choose to believe them. The point is …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 May 06
    • 4:05 am

    Nor was it specifically a Rense article, as I've told you before foolish one, Rense is just a nexus, they report, you decide. Ironically enough. Why do you not mention the other link anyway, it appears to be independent of the hoopla surrounding the article by Karl W B Schwarz, of Nano-technologies, which you deceptively identify as a Rense article as if such things are common. Rip Rense is actually not that prolific, and to my knowledge Karl is not a Rense staff writer. As always Rabbit must beat out the truth in morse code on your head for you to …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 May 06
    • 2:55 am

    Natalie, Nat the slimy sleazy stinky strumpetty BAT! Rabbit has repeatedly pointed out to you that Rense contains 95% of reports from mainstream news, and doesn't write independent articles as far as anything Rabbit would post as a source for you, deceitful Vampire. As for this hilarious little fart; This is what a list of “scholars” should look like. Notice the ability to click on a persons name and get a complete bio, including type and origin of college degrees, and work experience. ,............^^...............yes dear, all thirteen of them. and the link which it includes; thankyou for clearly illustrating the poverty …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 May 06
    • 3:14 am

    Rabbit can hop back .................on the rebound so to speak.............. it is after all what helps make him Rabbit. The following small bundle of crap, presented by the Bat, shows clearly what a dirth of real solid evidence it possesses.

    There was the story about one of the 9/11 flights supposedly landing in Cleveland that had deliberately twisted information from a local tv station. There was the thing about the Windsor tower fire, where we were told that it had similar construction to the twin towers. There was the deliberate manipulation of the quote by Bill Manning. I am interested in …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 May 06
    • 9:36 pm

    Hi Lume, Hi Froggy, Hi Dave, wow, Roger Ramjet, still alive and kicking and calling for his mama, (his googoo) Depleted Uranium. Actually the rabbit has long since drifted the interesting hypothesis that Natalie is Natalie Helbig, and this could explain their mutual need for the most horrible of genocidal weapons on the planet. Some sort of Unnatural father daughter relationship. Helbig the mediocrity is actually ex Pentagon as it happens too, Frog. He is retired, after a very mediocre desk jockey career. Now he concentrates on ensuring that American Servicemen and women will be exposed to depleted uranium without …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 May 06
    • 9:54 pm

    Nat has just grown wings as she does and will now if history dictates, dissapear for a while since she has been wacked out of kilter with too much truth. As usual the fascinating part where she claims interest is noted, and as always at such moments of truth, the caveat that "She is just too busy right now to confirm it is anything of note" but that she will be "BACK REAL SOON TO GIVE AN OPINION" Yeh sure! She will be back sooner or later, ignoring and whoring for lies like always. She will return in a few days …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 May 06
    • 12:06 am

    Hi to all the shiny ones. Is there enough fried Bat for a rabbit to have a small piece? Perhaps a leg or a wing? Notice I do that Natalie still refuses to prove she isn't Natalie Helbig. Your Daddy was on ICH spruiking for the Uranium Death again, Batty Nat. He got totally rolled of course. But then she probably knew that, they will have communicated at one of the re-education sessions they attended together. You've been getting new program lately haven't you shill? Your mob of propagandists has a little trick up its sleeve about the Pentagon, and you …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 May 06
    • 12:35 am

    Natty quotes "Those who died prematurely usually died because their mothers lived in impoverished areas neglected by the government.” That could as truthfully be written about the USA and thus Bush given "credit" directly for the deaths of babies in the USA. The fact remains that sanctions killed half a million or more, and this was acknowledged by the US administration and is an established fact even in the media la la land which is a result of a controlled media. Just chewing on the fried bat here, obviously nothing too serious being contributed. Lume you are absolutely firing on …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 May 06
    • 1:35 am

    Natty the rhetorical Bat, would you care to list any damage that the majority of us who resist the use of depleted uranium weapons have caused the USA? This crappy line has been bandied about by rightwing dickheads now for a while, but it leaves me bemused every time? How many lives have been lost? How many Cancers and how many Birth defects can be potentially even, attributed to those who oppose the use of Dirty Bombs and Bullets? Illegal Weapons of mass and indiscrimiante destruction, that's the definition of Depleted Uranium Weapons under International Treaties. How many wounded are there …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 May 06
    • 6:20 am

    What does a NUKED BAT look like? Lume has of course got the needed tools for the Bat trap? Rabbit is quite sure these studies are saved in his faves, but suspects Lume has better ones? See you tomorrow, here it's night. Hoping for a more tenderised piece of bat tomorrow.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 May 06
    • 9:43 pm

    As usual give the Bat a millimeter and it sets up for a long race. Natty the whole angle of discussion about Uranium Munitions is being falsely presented by YOU as having to do with its gamma radiation. For the benefit of viewers at home, I will point out that the danger comes not from Gamma radiation which is admittedly minimal. The real horror of Depleted Uranium Weapons is the Alpha and Beta radiation. This would seem to be extraordinary for such radiation is stopped by even clothing, and certainly hasn't any real danger past a few millimeters. The answer to …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 May 06
    • 9:45 pm

    Lume Natty thinks you and she are not too far removed in opinion about DU. Is that so? Oh just to show what a non issue Depleted Uranium is NOT, even when it's not being made into dirty bombs and blown about the world, consider this. The most substantial political debate is currently underway in OZ, and it is hotting up fast. Australia is considering selling our Uranium further afield after having been very conservative about doing so in the past. Oz has major Uranium resources of course. The problem is that we are being asked to take back the Depleted …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 May 06
    • 11:37 pm

    The following is revision but should be mentioned again, since Natty seems to forget how simple is the science and what is known. This is excerpted from Contamination of Persian Gulf War Veterans and Others by Depleted Uranium by Leonard A. Dietz (last updated in 1999.) Pathways of DU and Its Radiations into the Body Routes of intake or pathways of uranium particles into the body include the respiratory tract, the gastrointestinal tract and the skin, through abrasions or wounds. The International Commission on Radiation Protection (ICRP) has developed a biokinetic model that describes the behavior of uranium within the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 May 06
    • 11:41 pm

    How the U.S. Military Views the Safety of DU Munitions In a letter to Senator Sam Nunn, a representative of the U.S. Air Force stated, "...these projectiles are no more hazardous to store, transport, or employ than those composed of lead or copper" (Ref. 39). This view is echoed in the U.S. Army report to Congress that states, "The health risks associated with using DU in peacetime are minimal. This includes risks associated with transporting, storing and handling intact DU munitions and armor during peacetime" (Ref. 40). Neither the Air Force nor the Army has publicly presented an analysis of the …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 18 May 06
    • 11:43 pm

    Exposure of U.S. Soldiers and Illnesses in Their Families Thirty-six U.S. soldiers, including 22 with embedded fragments of DU in their bodies, have sought or reported for medical treatment (Ref. 44). They were in vehicles hit by DU munitions. Another report states there were 35 casualties and 72 wounded in crews of U.S. tanks and Bradley Fighting vehicles in so-called "friendly fire" incidents (Ref. 45). This includes the 36 above and is the total number of service personnel officially admitted to have been exposed to significant quantities of DU aerosol dust and DU fragments during the fighting. On an NBC Dateline …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 19 May 06
    • 12:13 am

    DU has both chemical and radiological effects. As a heavy metal it is chemically toxic which poses a risk to health additional to its radioactivity. Ingested DU tends to concentrate in the bones, liver and especially the kidney. The majority of DU ingested is excreted but some may remain for life [2]. In the kidney it can increase the risk of renal damage [5, 16]. In response to a recent report by the Royal Society on health hazards of DU, one scientist wrote; the report never quite says what is clearly stated between the lines: the levels of chemical …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 19 May 06
    • 12:13 am

    1. www.iacenter.org/depleted/metal-leftbooks.htm 2. www.iacenter.org/depleted/du_iraq.htm 3. www.cadu.org.uk 4. www.gulflink.osd.mil/faq_17apr.htm 5. www.ippnw.org 6. www.cadu.org.uk/info/military/7_1.htm 7. www.eoslifework.co.uk/du2012.htm 8. www.iacenter.org/depleted/du_greektr.htm 9. www.umrc.net/downloads/health_consequences_of_radiological_warfare.pdf 10. www.news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/europe/2001/depleted_uranium/default/stm 11. www.iacenter.org/israel_du.htm 12. www.mod.uk/issues/depleted_uranium/middle_east_2003.htm 13. www.iacenter.org/du_warcrime.htm 14. www.chugoku_up.co.jp/abom/uran/index_e.html 15. www.pandoraproject.org 16. www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs257/en/ 17. www.cadu.org.uk/info/reports/monk 18. www.rimbaud.freeserve.co.uk/iraq.htm 19. www.royalsoc.ac.uk/du/intro.htm The conservative tone of this report belies the claim of Natty that hysteria reigns within anti-DU circles. There is not consensus on how bad the problem is, but there is consensus in all circles that there is a problem. That is how you read such language, Moonbat Nat. Basically scientists who are a notoriously conservative lot when it comes to hard claims, are …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 19 May 06
    • 12:59 am

    Dr Rosalie Bertell. A response to the report by the royal society. I've told you before that the Royal Society is a scientific brothel. Teratogenicity of depleted uranium aerosols:A review from an epidemiological perspective I know Lume gave you this, but how about you read it again. It really is the answer to your doubts, but as has been pointed out, you don't really understand what an epidemiological study is do you? That is recent, Jan 2005, and includes epidemiological studies, is taken from such a perspective in fact.. Nat admit it you don't honestly even know what …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 19 May 06
    • 6:02 am

    As always you attribute so much effort to such small things really. I was reading and posting as part of the learning process and out of a genuine desire to see you fail in your efforts to even feel like you help the cover up of the truth. It is too late to go back. If you failed to keep up back there that's your problem, the rabbit ALREADY ANSWERED your whinge about the sources and provided the links beyond CNN at May 1, 2006 at 3:05 AM. Pay attention! Besides which you are casting your red herrings to the wind. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 21 May 06
    • 8:12 pm

    Brilliant Lume, your posts are absolutely spot on, and the humble hopper salutes your mind. How I wish I'd read the bit that got lost. If it was anything like what happens to me like that, then it was probably the best yet. Natalie, Scoffing at Lume's excellent analysis does nothing but further highlight the flaws of character, reasoning and humanity which are yours. If it wasn't long since obvious you are way out of your depth in every respect that counts, then it is now. Like Lume Rabbit too has learned much from butting heads with you. Learned more about …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 21 May 06
    • 8:51 pm

    Oh Lume. When one writes a long post, often it goes missing simply because the chance for someone else to post in the meantime is increased. Instead of returning to ones too long post and thus giving one a chance to cut some of it, the post gets lost. Not sure of the technical terms but it is the fact that the page has been updated in the meantime that means your work in progress in the comment box is lost with the old page reload. If you are lucky enough that nobody else posts between your first opening the page …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 21 May 06
    • 10:03 pm

    News for those who want to know. 7 April 2006 Uranium's Effect On DNA Established Still no pause to think there might be more to it than our desire to support the enemies of freedom or something?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 22 May 06
    • 11:18 pm

    You have it Frog, and can see why she has stunk the place up since she was first spewed forth like the results of a long weekend of relentless partying. The DU issue rolls on regardless of the shill in the mill. Since her debut the issue has become much better supported by studies and evidence, but not a single moment's pause have we seen, in the complete craven love of DU and yes, "WAR anywhere, anytime" she said it herself. She is nothing but a fucking evil blood sucking demon, and that is being polite. Over time many have gone …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 23 May 06
    • 10:11 pm

    The UN commission statements on human rights have been quoted before, this is but the shadow of an earlier debate on an appropriate thread, in some ways. They are part of the evidence given to support the contention that the USA is guilty of War Crimes and crimes against humanity. It is part of the basis of my argument that Bush and the various members of the warmongering Junta are war criminals and it has further been pointed out that Natalie is complicit in these crimes by virtue of her own efforts. The thread is actually not being used for any …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 23 May 06
    • 10:45 pm

    Has anyone been following the debate about the likely effects of a low flying 757 which is related to the question of what hit the Pentagon? Like Jones and crew I am wary of what appears to be a concerted effort by government and complicit MSM to sideline any discussion about 911 to the Pentagon. Expecting like all others either some genuine footage or more likely properly doctored video of flight 77 going into the Pentagon, sooner or later. Still at this point we can only speculate and the Jet Blast at such low altitude question stands as an interesting angle …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 24 May 06
    • 4:41 am

    ADMIT Be a founding member of ADMIT. THIS time they had a plan. .....................^^........................ oh and by the way nyvegan, don't forget Natty is a shill and is not really trying to engage in any dialogue. Her choice is to mask the truth not to seek it. As such she is useful as a foil. A contrast indeed. Trapped by her assignment from her masters she is yet bound to us in these issues, which is why the rabbit calls her our pet Bat. Of course if by some grand miracle Natalie were actually to show she was turning away from …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 25 May 06
    • 2:29 am

    Dave no need to explain that you are a "troll lover", Rabbit was just too polite to mention it, but since you do. Yes there is a smirk on my face, well yes, Dave does kind of love everybody even the truly ugly among us. That is why he is a Monk. That won't save you from being judged fit for the pit should he be on the heavenly jury though you demons. Rabbit is less pleasant basically, being an Aries prick and all.. Actually the thread on ICH following the video kerfuffle is worth a few shots from ADMIT troops. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 25 May 06
    • 2:43 am

    ..................^^.....................Where's the Bat?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 25 May 06
    • 7:46 pm

    Yep, Rabbit has seen Frog earlier on the site. The ICH crowd are obviously a bit bemused by all the wingjobs they've attracted lately. Usually a site with little opposition, except internal squabbles. I find this story of a couple finding DU from an Auction to be amusing. Now why would the authorities treat it so seriously if the stuff was like birthday cake? Seems to me evryone involved in this are freaking out a bit. It is only a bit of solid, stable Depleted Uranium after all. Now if it was burnt and formed Ceramic vapour they might have …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 25 May 06
    • 10:28 pm

    Wiley Most of the truly damning words against the USA are coming from foreigners, non-US as it happens. I know a few Americans do the self damning thing a bit, but mostly the heavy stuff is foreign. I've been paying close attention. Besides that the important point I think which has to be remembered that the majority of people who first believed in that video certainly on ICH, did so for an hour or two at most. They have been up front about that, and even though some, and that includes me, still see there as being a chance it is …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 26 May 06
    • 8:41 am

    Wiley The bombing is wrong regardless. The radiation is about a million years more wrong. Just to be pedantic, the radiation is more like 4.5 Billion years more wrong. It was U-236 I was thinking of before and it isn't the same as plutonium, which you know anyway. As for the testing of Nuclear weapons in the battle field, I wouldn't be surprised, there has been talk of it. They've certainly been testing some hell spawn beam weapons. Many of the posters on ICH are foreign Wiley, they often say things which give it away. Quite a few Aussies …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 26 May 06
    • 9:37 pm

    The reason I think that so many turn the conversation back on Americans and their history is simple. Those who are yet blind, who spout the bullshit as if it is untouchable, are actually spouting garbage. They are repeating a very Americanised and sanitized version of history. They are invariably doing it in oder to cash in on the past glory, as if this somehow justifies the present. The obvious reation of many to this, is to point out that history is not exactly in agreement with their programmed view. Telling the idiots they are wrong now is all very well. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 26 May 06
    • 9:43 pm

    Isnt that what Americans problem is? We only think about ourselves, and think were so exceptional. Thinking about ourselves and feeling we are the center of the universe is forgiveably human. It is what we think about ourselves that counts when it comes to interracting with others. The rich always think they are somehow special, entitled by virtue of birth to more, as such the USA is but a projection of the wealth which remains its God. Or of those who run her for their own profit.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 26 May 06
    • 10:56 pm

    On the Macbeth video. I think you should read the comment by Objector on This link. Like him I cannot avoid the feeling that Macbeth is genuine. I have withdrawn my support of the fact only, but my instintive reaction is still thus. If it is definately a hoax, then I am seriously concerned about my instinct for it has always been my guiding light. If its true, think for a moment how seriously the Pentagon would take shutting him down, and then consider the enormous right wing, and only right wing reaction to it. The left is as I …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 May 06
    • 12:33 am

    Natalie it is hard to describe my feelings for you, but I am going to try. I just did it in a post and lost it the usual way, by forgetting my own advice and not copying before flushing. It strikes me as pointless to bother setting the record straight about anything you write at this stage. Nobody will ever read anything you've written on this site except in derision anymore anyway. Your posts bore me. Mostly the special shilling ones, long and peppered with links to pseudo scientific sources, ie; paid industry hacks, which always follow your demolition by a …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 May 06
    • 1:29 am

    Luminous Dan?

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 29 May 06
    • 5:59 am

    Depleted Uranium Uranium is great you should stick it in your date. Give the one you love some fun while you poison her with come. If by lucky chance you should jointly build a baby. You can rest not till assured its neither dead nor yet deformed. The ones who get the least of it will suffer for the longest. While those who get the biggest dose will die too soon to notice. ...Must go home for dinner, but might pop back with spin for more of Natty's loves soon.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 30 May 06
    • 10:48 pm

    Thanks for that amphibious one. I might just repost that on an ICH thread since it is aprop. It occurs lately to me as I watch the Bush support go down the toilet, that this is where i becomes obvious we have passed the point of no return. I read some piece yesterday, which claimed that those in the USA who actually fit into that ultra privelaged bracket, which can truly say it owns the current system, or at least that it benefits entirely by it amounts to about 10% of the population. That leaves about 15% of the remaining population …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 31 May 06
    • 7:58 pm

    Whether or not they are truly influential, no amount of citizens influence is likely to shift the course of the runaway train.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Jun 06
    • 4:45 am

    You got it Wiley. tra la la la la, tra la la. God she's an irritiating shill isn't she? Not a pause now that the Teratological studies and Epidemiological studies are in, she's still babbling the same lines. I doubt Frog will feel much like taking any notice of her crap either. Note that the BIG thread at you know where, has evolved into a DU WAR, for all those who are loyal to ADMIT. A SHILL appears to have finally taken the bait and has begun in a remarkably similar fashion to Natty, except it appears to be claiming some …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Jun 06
    • 8:58 am

    Its done he who hops. The field of freedom and green, green grass, now has a note left by the embers of the campfire past. Hi Lume. Art thou related to Dan? Most excellent a Man. If there be but two like you, then your land is not completely screwed. If it's just you chum, then as usual, well done!

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 01 Jun 06
    • 11:13 am

    Personally I have some experience with Heptachlor and Dieldrin. Having seen the effects on several generations of some families while living a decade in the country. DDT of course is down south too, and like the other two after more than fifty years it is still so highly concentrated on even virgin farmland it is yet too high to allow an organic rating for produce grown on it. Sprayed from planes of course. Of course nothing was ever achieved. Still mosquitoes, and White Ants (termites) infesting the whole area. (An area about the size of California and Texas combined BTW.) …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 03 Jun 06
    • 1:30 am

    Umm hate to tell you this Natty, but the rabbit has it on good authority that nobody really even bothers with you anymore. We are too busy sorting the real people to waste time reading your claptrap. Don't be suprised to be ignored for a bit. Of course we all get a bit bored from time to time, and you are at least a tiny bit more amusing than masturbation........ but not much. Hang about Natty Bat, someone is bound to feel like a bit of a cheap thrill soon though, you never know. Wiley, I've smoked more Ganja than Hitler?... …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 Jun 06
    • 3:17 am

    The whole political process is conducted within the bosom of the corrupted media, and as such even if the voting wasn't being shonked by ballot stuffing to directly inventing figures and substituting and all the rest of it, it would still not be real democracy. By that I mean all of mostly our mangy countries too. So what if the US system is obviously openly and completely corrupted, any system driven by the false propaganda spewing media is essentially out of control. We are all facedby the same paradox. There are no real alternatives, the majority of people have no representation. …

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 Jun 06
    • 4:12 am

    I can see while they call him Snowjob. "That is a little too complicated for me to try to read out," Snow said at a briefing where he was pressed to explain how al-Maliki's remarks were supposed to have been distorted. "It becomes a little convoluted and so I don't want to make a real clear characterization because it's a little hazy to me," Snow said.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 05 Jun 06
    • 8:05 pm

    Pokemon.........Big Brother..........McDonalds. Yeh we're real creative. Well Rabbit woke up this moring and Mrs Rabbit was not on her side of the bed. Allthough she normally is up before me, to ride into work in the city, I usually notice when she gets up. I lay there for a while wondering if she had gone up in the rapture or something. Looking around on the way to work there didn't seem to be fewer people.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 06 Jun 06
    • 10:17 pm

    Sorry to say the rabbit is sinking still. I don't know what it is Wiley but I'm feeling about ready to call it a day. Is there any point in sticking around to watch the downhill run when the trip so far has been a total dissapointment? Fuck. I won't even have any good memories to enjoy in my old age.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 07 Jun 06
    • 1:51 am

    Thanks for trying Wiley. Even rabbits have bad days. The world is wrong but the rabbit is wronger. Wrong for himself like it is wrong for itself. Maybe it will go away, but I never felt so dark to be truthful.. It is just a personal thing though. Maybe I'm about to self destruct or something. Bunny goes Bang!.

    Posted to What's the 411 on 9/11?
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 9:14 pm

    WTh I guess you ARE blaming the U.S. for kids killed by suicide bombers and roadside bombs. Who gets the blame for teaching their kids to do the bombing? Is that our fault as well? Are you forgetting this, or did you not bother to read it Rabbit shall answer you. Yes we are blaming the US becuse these kids were not being killed by suicide bombers before US intervention. You guys fucked the place up, and that can't be avoided. 100% your fault. By invading and relieving the government of control then installing your own puppets you took full …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 9:17 pm

    January 26, 2000 Permanent Mission of the United Kingdom to the United Nations Dear H.E. Sir Jeremy Greenstock, KCMG, A delegation of U.S. citizens from twenty states has just returned from Iraq. On January 17, we observed in Baghdad the 9th Anniversary of the beginning of the January 17 - February 28, 1991. U.S. aircraft flew 110,000 aerial sorties against Iraq, averaging one every 30 seconds, dropping 88,500 tons of explosives, the equivalent of 7 l/2 Hiroshima bombs. This was by far the most intensive bombardment in history. It killed tens of thousands of people, injuring many more. Medicines and medical …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 9:19 pm

    While children under age five are the most vulnerable age group, except for the extreme elderly, every age group has suffered radical increases in the numbers of deaths. Members of the population with serious chronic illnesses requiring regular medication, or therapy, suffer the highest percentages of death of any sectors, approaching 100% for some illnesses where survival rates were as high as 95% before sanctions. The sanctions target to kill, or injure infants, children, the elderly, and the chronically ill. The Red Crescent and other knowledgeable professional groups believe it will be years after the end of sanctions before the …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 9:24 pm

    Kwashiorkor is an extremely dangerous end product of malnutrition in which the victim wastes and dies without early intensive care. Few doctors in Iraq had ever seen a case before late 1990. From medical school and continuing studies they associated Kwashiorkor with starvation in the poorest regions of Africa and south Asia during periods of war, drought, pestilence and other calamities. Marasmus inflicts a lower death rate than kwashiorkor, but is extremely dangerous, permanently damaging and requires early and extended care for survival. The effects of severe and protracted malnutrition are permanent and life shortening. Common communicable diseases preventable by vaccination …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 9:25 pm

    The Sanctions Violate the Genocide Convention of 1948 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genocide is defined in the Genocide Convention, in part, as follows: Article II...genocide means any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; There can be no doubt that the sanctions against Iraq intentionally destroyed in major …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 9:28 pm

    ROGUE NATION So the US says that Iraq has repeatedly ignored or refused to comply with UN conventions? Well, here's a list of all the rogue policies aggressively pursued by the Bush administration: 1) the refusal to sign an international accord phasing out land mines; 2) the withdrawal from UN negotiations on a Biological Weapons Convention; 3) the renunciation of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty and determination to build an ABM system; 4) the rejection of the Kyoto environmental accord; 5) the termination of support for the Upper Atmospheric Research Satellite which monitors the ozone layer over Antarctica; 6) the rejection …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 9:32 pm

    Shall we add re-starting the almost extinct Heroin trade out of Afghanistan? What about the use of banned chemical and Nuclear weapons? What about the fact that you arsewipes are about to launch nuclear weapons against a fairly minor state, who does not have such weapons? Any answers to these questions? Any answer to the FACTS of what you sleezy cowards call a war of freedom or some such nonsense? ROGUE NATION!

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 10:28 pm

    This was said about the sanctions whilst they were in force. They were real, you do remember that boys don't you? It occurs to the rabbit that Tweedledum and Tweedledee may not actually remember the sanctions, or they may think it wasn't the USA which did it. Hell they probably may never have known about them at the time, or at least they were and maybe are convinced Do you think we are making up the sanctions Boys? It is criminal to hold the lives of the people of Iraq hostage to demands of the U.S. against their government, whatever those …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 10:35 pm

    Dave why did you correect yourself? The ONLY thing in Iraq above pre-war levels is the killing. Oh yes, the number of US troops in Iraq, that's two things I guess.

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 10:46 pm

    More Jay wizardry. I take issue with the preposition Saddam didnt threaten anyone. Kuwait, Shiite and Kurdish massacres, Iran-Iraq War, support for terrorist (ie Abu Nidal, etc). Saddam invaded Kuwait because they had been slant drilling into Iraqi oil fields for some time and wouldn't stop. He invaded Kuwait on the say so of Bush senior, all history. The Shiite and Kurdish Massacres were facilitated by the USA providing Saddam with Chemical weapons for the purpose, and during the Iran-Iraq war the USA was supplying arms to both sides but eventually sided with Iraq, supplying Weapons of Mass destruction and …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 10:59 pm

    Oh and JAY Bird, ABU NIDAL is a ridiculous excuse to have done anything to anybody at any time. What the hell are you raising such a pissant issue for? Besides which as usual you don't know anything you are talking about. In a melodramatic tale worthy of G. Gordon Liddy, North sat there with a straight face and explained to the committee that the Abu Nidal organization had put a price on his head, and that he needed the security system for protection against this global terrorist threat. The presentation included visual aids, such as slides of newspaper stories about …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 5:28 am

    Now stay calm Wiley, these guys have been willfully ignorant for a long time now and believe Rabbit, it is not for want of having the information right there for them to study and understand. Wait till WTH gets around to explaining how nothing can ever be known and everything is all just imaginary, and the only thing which WILL NEVER CHANGE is his mind. You ain't seen nothing yet sister. The whole Germans Holocaust thing and the insanity of not a few historical events takes on a whole new banal meaning finally doesn't it? You have to see your fellow …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 5:29 am

    Our genetic predisposition to domination and war is like the bars which keep us in.

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 9:32 pm

    You had a much more intelligent president in 1991, WTH. Bush senior knew that taking Iraq was not the problem but holding it. What the hell do you do with it once you are in there. There was also the little matter of imposing the most horrendous sanctions in Modern History, to bring the country to it's kness. Rabbit is not babbling, WTH. You just had a series of relevant facts, outlined , resourced and detailed, all of which relate to the discussion at hand. You really should try to up your image a bit and not reduce your self in …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 9:32 pm

    Rabbit shall read on, but WTH if you think this was babbling, as an answer to the simplistic twaddle you answered my previous posts with, then you are so far out of your depth on this site, that it is amazing someone with any sense is subjecting themselves to it. You can reduce an idea to a few glib sentences and repeat that over and over as you do, but that is not a substitue for actual engagement and reasoned debate. Many of the terms you use WTH, are meaning much more than you imply. In truth for the complexity of …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 9:39 pm

    WTH we do not agree that sanctions were (or are) worse than useless. Rabbit is pointing out that the sanctions were responsible for upwards from a million children's deaths. A War Crime as is also pointed out clearly above. That is worse than anything Saddam did to anyone, laddy. Weren't you something to do with matematics? You only have to compare Saddams alleged total of 350, 000, of all ages and various groups, to the one to one and a half million children who died as a direct result of the sanctions. Since these included baby formula, it isn't hard to …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 9:50 pm

    This conversation goes no where. Wiley and Rabbit are too satisfied they already know it all and apparently dont bother to read anything which may present any new info. That's a funny thing to say WTH. You are the one's who have been given pleanty to read and have evidently not done so, as evidenced in your patent inability so far to refer to any specific point raised ion the trio Rabbit has made.. Now if either of you bozos had actually posted anything except your own BABBLE....... You haven't addressed anything without circular reasoning and you both have extensive …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 9:57 pm

    There he goes Wiley, the great Whattheheck. The organ of reason, the statue of progress, the champion of cowardice. Gutless beggars always run away once they have nothing but either answer the damned issue directly, answer a direct question or engage in an adult debate. Oh they'll pop up somewhere else claiming how they just trounced us idiots, who can never be reasoned with because we are brainwashed and all the other self projections we see every day on the net. The excuse is always that WE are being unreasonable, or WE are refusing to read anything new, yet they rarely …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 11:19 pm

    hmmm....Economy Class Shill... If he isn't subconsciously straining at the bonds of mental torpidity, as Rabbit hopes, then he could be an economy class shill. OR a Larval Troll. But he is still Rabbit's reluctant Penguin.

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 12 Jan 06
    • 1:59 am

    Ango-American War of Terror Grist..meet Mill.

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 2:56 am

    Jay as usual has tickets on his own feeble attempts to annoy. Wiley tell the bug he doesn't ever even come close to affecting anyone with his dimwitted grunting. He always comes back after another hiding apologising as if anyone ever took any notice of his imbecilic rants. It is a little bit of his raging slef love shining through. To do that Jay my little, very little fiddly frog minded dweeb, you would have to have at least grasped the concept of reality. All your imagined insults are only ever hilarious to the rest of us, you're a clown and …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 3:23 am

    Jay since Wiley isn't in yet, perhaps you could explain to Rabbit what crass comments you made? You must be imagining things, you grunted and gibbered a bit as usual, patted yourslef on the back, took a bow and then scarpered witha few gratuitous remarks. Pretending you somehow crossed some sort of line with your feeble dribble is kinda cute, but a no brainer son. You didn't even approach the line of normal reason or honesty, you never said anything strong or even did more than babble a bit, you were as usual kind of funny, and sad, at the same …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 3:35 am

    Jay Bird you are such a twerp Rabbit is still stuck on your first post. I do respect your opinions and I am working on being more civil, as difficult as that is when one cannot look into the eyes of another and see, if not their soul, then at least their heart. Let's get one thing straight. I respect the opinions of anyone who actually has some, and whose opinions can be supported by reasoned and reasonable intelligence. As for yours, I have NO respect whatsoever for them. I'd respect the same opinions if they belonged to WTH, sometimes, …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 4:30 am

    Jay the champion cheery cherry picker is in no position to talk of others cherry picking. The only reason Jay doesn't pick more cherries is that there is very little to be found which supports his ideas except the most biased and refutable type, invariably put out by the same crims who are screwing up Iraq in the same place. Jay seriously looking at what you are doing on this thread, and knowing all that has gone before, as usual rabbit must simply say you are the lowest common denominator. The feeblest of all that is feebleminded and the most craven …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 4:41 am

    "and to weaken the country for the 2003 invasion, 12 years later." That's right Jay Jay, the warmongers actually think more than a week ahead, unlike the dumbies they keep fed on bullshit, like you, they have a longer attention span than a week. Ten years isn't long in the scheme of things when the scheme of things is world domination. Here's a surprise for you midget mind, the whol;e Iraq step, important and planned as it was more trhan a decade ago, is still only the preparatory steo to taking over Iran's oil, and then pea brain, the plan is …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 4:48 am

    Ohg and you know what Jay, when you legends in your own minds, attack Iran, and they fight back like the devil himself, you are going to lose many, many troops, ships and aircraft this time, the Iranians cannot stand against the toital war including Nuclear your Sock puppet masters are planning, but they have more than enough resources to bring America headfirst into the worst troubles you have ever imagined. You don't have to take Rabbit's word for it, the die is cast dimwit, and your POTUS evidently has no more idea of what he's about to do than you …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 10:17 am

    Here are some wiser words than mine. It is unlikely that either of the present Morons can or will read this but it is a shortcut to the educations they are both short on. For anybody else, read and see how easily the morons could get a few clues. This is so short and easy to understand rabbit shall be giving it to his 13 and 14 year old kids to read as a contemporary update. of course any facts quoted can be checked, by those who are literate. Coming War with Iran

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 10:20 am

    And here it is for the reference challenged. In November 2000, Iraq stopped accepting U.S. dollars for its oil. Counted as a purely political move, Saddam Hussein switched the currency required to purchase Iraqi oil to the euro. Selling oil through the U.N. Oil for Food Program, Iraq converted all of its U.S. dollars in its U.N. account to the euro. Shortly thereafter, Iraq converted $10 billion in its U.N. reserve fund to the euro. By the end of 2000, Iraq had abandoned the U.S. dollar completely. Two months after the United States invaded Iraq, the Oil for Food Program …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 10:22 am

    The plans to invade Iran are unspoken, but unfolding before our very eyes. The media has been reporting on Iran more often, and increasingly harshly. For the U.S. government to justify invading Iran, it must first begin to phase out the War in Iraq, which it is already doing. Next, it must portray the Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as a threat to the region and the world. Finally, once naive American people are convinced the weapons of mass destruction that were to be found in Iraq are actually in Iran, coupled with the almost daily media coverage of Irans nuclear power …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 10:27 am

    If the United States invades Iran, or if Israel starts military actions by launches missiles at Irans nuclear power facilities, which then opens the door for the United States to intervene, most Americans will believe that our military actions in Iran will be to defend freedom and liberty while spreading democracy, when the truth is that well be fighting a war in Iran because of our nations relationship with the Federal Reserve, a so-called bank that is not owned by the federal government, maintains no reserve, and isnt a bank at all, but a cartel. Just like our war in Iraq, …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 10:37 am

    Read this slowly and try and prove it is wrong. When you understand it is the truth, see if you can fit it into your understanding. We already know you will be blathering about freedom and democracy. You are being prepared now, we've been watching them program you. Funny little robots. You'll forget that Iran isn't doing anything illegal by starting up it's nuclear power plants, all in order by the agreement which they have never broken but which you have. You'll forget that the Iranian prime minister who mouthed off recently is being reigned in by those Iranian clerics because …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 10:52 am

    Figure it out guys. Check and prove to yourselves that the Fed isn't an American Institution, it is basically your creditors. Add up the figures and check the facts, make sure it is all true, which it is, and then see if your delusions can take it into account. See if you can fit it all together without a feeling of impending doom. If you can do so, great. The bigger the shock when a Russian soldier kicks in your door and yells at you to "lay down on the ground, don't move American pig." Of course you could just come …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 10:56 am

    Yes Dave, you should have been a Monk. So should Jay have been. Heck you could have shared a bunk. Two monks in a bunk, one Smart and one Junk. One is a flunk and the other would get drunk. Jay is a Skunk. Rabbit is Drunk!

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 11:01 am

    Dave you could just despise him? You could probably despise him without actually hating him. Do you have to love such apostasies? What about loathe him? Rabbit loves everyone too, but sometimes the best thing to do for something you love, is to shoot it. Sad but true. Maybe you can see the point of Loving Jay and shooting him for his own sake? Imagine how horrible it will be when his delusions really cannot be sustained because the Russian Soldier doesn't speak American, and he is now kicking Jay in the ribs because he can only babble incoherantly?

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 11:18 am

    If you think the invasion of Iraq was about 9-11 and Al-Qaida then I urge you to think again. Cast aside all that the major television networks have programmed into your daily thinking, take a deep breath and slowly exhale. Now, thinkreal hard. Were any WMDs (Weapons of Mass Destruction) ever found in Iraq? Has any connection between 9-11 and Saddam Hussein been solidly proven? The answer to both queries is a resounding NO. So why then would the US, the worlds largest economic entity, undertake an invasion of Iraq to capture and remove leader Saddam Hussein? The answer is all …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 13 Jan 06
    • 11:33 am

    The sound of Jay and WTH watching Fox and CNN respectively. Suck suck suck.......slurp slurp slurp........suck suck suck...............BURP...

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 5:40 am

    Communicating for Rabbit is an odd thing I think. He finds picking up languages happens really easily amongst the people speaking it. Thus he learnt Danish in about 6 months living there, just working and reading the newspaper. By necessity. When visiting France ort Germany one starts learning words, several new ones a day, just out of necessity, and often withour intention. Given six months in any place I think I could become fluent enough to get by. Rabbit is only fluent in Danish and English, but can manage written German, mostly technical stuff though, like service manuals and can get …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 16 Jan 06
    • 10:38 am

    Bush senior gave green light for Iraq to attack Kuwait. As we who were paying attention have said before.

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 6:29 am

    Why are we always beating up on poor people? Because they have something we want, and because it is too hard to beat up on rich people. Yes Kuwait is really a part of Iraq, originally. Rabbit knows this.

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 17 Jan 06
    • 6:33 am

    Oh Kaninen taler dansk fordi han er gift med en Dansker. Han's Kone er jo nemlig Dansk. Hun kommer fra Jydskland, and der har Kaninen boede also i fem ar. Selv Kanin datteren er i Danmark for besog nu. Hun kommer snart hjem. Det er Kanine mejet glad for. Han savner sin datter hel tiden nu.

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 2:46 am

    WTH you NEED to listen to Wiley. Between she and Rabbit you are being given the best opportunity to get well you are ever likely to get. She is telling you the other half of things which Rabbit hasn't been able to get clear to you yet,. For yoyur own soul man, listen and think for yourself. Don't fit a slogan in there, try stringing your own thoughts together based upon what you are hearing. Stop listening according to what you believe. If ever someone was close but a million miles from home, you're it. uynless you can take this step …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 3:10 am

    Something for WhatTheHeck Wiley the rabbit has a name for it, Holocaust Syndrome. The patient has an insatiable feeling of persecution and a simultaneous lack of reason in dealing with anything which it once has percieved as some sort of vegeance upon it's percieved persecuters. Sufferers of this illness are unable to see any abuse which follows in the wake of it's actions as anything but just whilst they react with outrage and amazement when anybody actually resists their assaults, or shoots back. Luckily sufferers of HS seem unable to breed more of their kind and their numbers, since …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 18 Jan 06
    • 3:11 am

    Something for WhatTheHeck Something else too.

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 12:38 am

    No Rabbit feels Holocaust Syndrome relates as well to 911. That is not to say it hasn't affected many Jews for a while. It has allowed so many to justify the atrocities committed in their name by Israel. It has just found a new expression in the psyche of Americans who use it to justify all manner of atrocities in their name. It is this syndrome which is manifested in the effect of the Koolaid drinking morons represented ably by WTH, Tiny Shrew, Scorpy, Natty etc. They all have a weird propensity to denial and it is familiar, we see it …

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 19 Jan 06
    • 8:26 am

    Is Syria America's enemy? Afghanistan, yes that other US atrocity and grand fuck-up.

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 20 Jan 06
    • 4:33 am

    Wiley, it is the program taking over again. Everytime he just twists like an eel. Maybe he is some sort of economy class shill after all? More likely just another sicko in abject denial. Another sufferer of Holocaust Syndrome.

    Posted to To Leave or Not to Leave
    • 06 Jan 06
    • 3:11 am

    Rabbit is a fan, Minny. Not getting into this, ..wise Rabbit. Happy New Year...dear. ..........^^............

    Posted to Your Guess Is as Good as Mine
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 6:30 am

    Minerva Rabbit just happened by this thread again, and something you mention also on the right 911 thread. "..when youre flying at 500 miles per hour...it takes an hour to travel five hundred miles." But why are you flying at 500 miles an hour, when the planes are capable of 1800 mph? That my dear is the question.

    Posted to Your Guess Is as Good as Mine
    • 08 Jan 06
    • 6:33 am

    What is the quote about time and chance happening to all? Rabbit thinks of a Time for everything, under the heavens. A time to reap and a time to sow A time cats away stones and a time to gsather stones together... etc That's Ecclesiastes too I think I recall, was it this you meant? If so, it is one of Rabbit's favorites in the old testament.

    Posted to Your Guess Is as Good as Mine
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 5:24 am

    Romans ....Mammon...took control of the Christian movement and subverted it to the purposes of Man's Kingdom. There is only one potential candidate for the role of true representative of the church established by the white God in opposition to Paganism, the religion of the earth. That is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. All the rest are reactionary if not the original usurper of Rome. BTW, the original usurper of the Church of the White God, is due for anhilation. I suspect the current Pope, is number LAST! Christian.....flamin apes...grumble..mumble rabbity growl...silly numbskulls. They just love that virgin …

    Posted to Your Guess Is as Good as Mine
    • 10 Jan 06
    • 11:23 pm

    The first flood, the second or Noahs one? Rabbit too a few times, and that sounds about right.

    Posted to Your Guess Is as Good as Mine
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 3:06 am

    Rabbit has afield where any may gather and poke about anytime, and though there are threads they are informal. Some of those you mention know and if you want anyone may give directions. So can I for that matter, but it isn't handed out gratuitously like some sort of personal medallion like some trolls I know do. Also since it is Rabbit's it is Troll proof.

    Posted to Your Guess Is as Good as Mine
    • 11 Jan 06
    • 5:45 am

    Rabbit looked at place, Andi, Rabbit registered at the place, but it wouldn't let Rabbit say anything anyway. It is complicated and has lots of gates, rabbits like simple things like the blogger site, whiuch is eminently simple but practical. Also it blocks blockquotes, a worthy goal, and it never messes up lines, and you can delete your own posts. The rabbit's ears are a link. ........................... ^^.......................................

    Posted to Your Guess Is as Good as Mine
    • 01 Dec 05
    • 5:46 am

    We could be living sixty years ago and you wouldn't know it but for the language and scale of of the Reich.

    Posted to The Limits of Empathy
    • 01 Dec 05
    • 4:56 am

    America: Just a Big Red White and Blue Teddy Bear With a Whole Lot of Guns and a penchant for torture. How is it with these bastards, they not only torture anyway, despite hundreds of years of laws, they actually have the hide to try and make it legal, just like every other form of war crime this Criminal Junta of Maniacs, led by Cheney, the Vice president of the fiery pit and using his cock puppet Bush to add insult to injury while trying to destroy the world quicker than his own maggot ridden carcass can call an end to …

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 01 Dec 05
    • 5:14 am

    Yes WileyWitch, you have now met the sites teetering moron, WTH. A fellow with lots of ideas, no clues, cannot accept that anything can be "proven" on the internet, and it is all just a figment of his imagination anyway. He is sensible enough when he is lucky enough to have the important facts about an issue clear in his head, and this requires it was put there at some earlier time in his life which he "alludes to" without ever actually identifying it. he does say that he has no intention of ever changing his mind about anything, or his …

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 01 Dec 05
    • 5:44 am

    For old times sake, WTH, you don't even have to buy it, I'm sure Eric won't mind, one more who reads this may be one less making the poor bastard turn over in his grave. Rabbit has heard they have fitted Bearings and castors to the Tomb of George Orwell, the constant turning was wearing out the casket. George Orwell's 1984 Online

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 12:05 am

    WTH, read 1984. it might help you, it might not, but it's a good story, you'll enjoy it. Unless you recognise the truth of its relevance. I'd say your safe. Enjoy. Wiley he isn't a Shill............ Rabbit doubts it, ....looking back over his shoulder at him............^^..............No not a Shill, but a Moron is he. Wth had promise thought Rabbit he has been trying to teach him, but one is facing the eternal paradox of all teaching. It cannot be done. Nobody teaches, the student learns...........or he does not. The student has not prgressed beyond denial of all unpalatable, facts and locked …

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 12:13 am

    Torture is already called enhanced interrogation method.

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 12:29 am

    Rabbit personally is not against Torture under one circumstance actually. Rabbit believes Torture should be used on all those who want it. presumably this is all those who are for it. They should be allowed to go first feels Rabbit. In fact if they feel so strongly about it, we can have them tortured until they change there minds. They can thus set a bechmark for the limits of torture by personal example. Not everyone among them, perhaps they can elect representatives from among themselves to be tortured instead, but they must be bound by that person's limits. Spineless toads. Supporting …

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 1:28 am

    Actually with Orwell the point of turture was not to extract information, as O'Brian revealed, it is re-education. Maybe torture is an enhanced educational technique. We are told the goal is better, more democratic people who love us more. The reality is what they no doubt sought, more people eager to join up for the "Indians". This is just the latest Cowboy and Indian shootup. The Iraqis and soon the Iranians get to be Indians, like it or not. Are you a member of the resistance? No Perhaps we need to educate you some more? Bash bash, rape, rape, cut, slash, …

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 1:35 am

    "Gomer, why are you buggering that Arab?" "I's teaching him about American Freedom and Democracy seargent." "Good work private, if that doesn't make him love us, then perhaps the pictures of his wife and kids that are pinned up in the NCO's mess will do it. We'll save them for last though, you go on and have your fun now private, you are a United States Marine and you can do that all you like.. Don't forget the pictures to be sent to Rumsfeld's Office as per orders, we don't want them getting bored with the last lot do we.. …

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 5:28 am

    TIT

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 03 Dec 05
    • 1:15 am

    Wolfie seems to be suggesting that, it doesn't matter how people are killed, then this leads Rabbit to ponder the following. Rabbit is just guessing, but Wolfie has probably not seen anyone die. Or if he has, they were probably not gauging their eyeballs, and tearing lumps of their own flesh away in a futile effort to stop the pain. Rabbit contends that it makes a difference to the person who must die. True that difference may be of only short duration, the time taken from being struck to the time they actually cease to live, and feel. It is however …

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 03 Dec 05
    • 1:15 am

    oops wrong thread, silly Rabbit

    Posted to Torturers R' Us
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 11:42 pm

    "The quality of mercy is not strained. It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven." "Upon the place beneath. Twice blessed, it blesseth he that gives and he that takes" Portia's speach from Merchant, Rabbit had to learn it off by heart in English Literature, Dave too?

    Posted to White Phosphorous Lies
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 11:44 pm

    Whoops, "upon the place beneath. It is twice blessed, it blesseth he that gives and he that takes." Heh what happened to Rabbit's first post ?

    Posted to White Phosphorous Lies
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 5:15 am

    Ah, what has Rabbit been missing. Going down the thread, Jay DeCline, Rabbit and others, ask Dave, have been watching and commenting on your failure to have read a thread in which you were involved, and which settled the fact that Lume is an Male. Indeed Jay may have posted his swansong and if so it is neither surprising nor dissapointing to Rabbit. If however you should be lurking yet, it was not just Luminous Beauty, but others, Rabbit and Dave pointed out to Lume that you were trying to hump his leg in the belief he was of the opposite …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 5:39 am

    Ah, Scorpy, Ramsey Clark may well be a private citizen but he is hardly as unknown or disrespected, he is a former US Attorney General. The moral is the point Scorpy and the situation is fairly well put here This is another aspect of Depleted uranium. Read up you ill-informed ScorpyWar Crimes. Fallujah

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 6:09 am

    WileyWitch, the Rabbit asks you to tarry awhile. This site is a kind of backwater, yet it seems to straddle the gap between mainstream and realstream. The population is limited but enlightened, the house trolls are fairly tame, and worth the game. Your views attract Rabbit who stands by you on most things, and others too are watching with happy eyes, knows Rabbit. Stay and share with us. Rabbit is way down under your toes, which is why he posts lots of these in a row. It isn't like he makes up rhymes all the time, but he can't help his …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 6:22 am

    Major, the neo-cons, are just a pawn, Hitlery Clinton is the next US president and Rabbit has read these words better said this day. In the end, Bushler was only a means to an end, and probably we will come to see Hitlery sacrificed on a pyre of her own supposed making. All, probably, to pave the way for UN invasion of USA. By that time the UN will be the Organ of the NWO, as it is now, but withless ambiguity. Americans will welocome them probably, in fact it is likely that those who will by then be most …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 10:52 am

    Go Jane Doe, Rabbit is with you to. Wack those stupid Morons, get up you stupid, lazy, cowardly Sheeple. Look what is being done to you while your eyes are shut. Damned Fools!

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 10:55 am

    Ah, Wolfie..................Who would the US have been submitting to, byNot attacking Iraq?

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 11:09 am

    Wolfie, the reason you cannot see any way around wars, is because you are one of those who lives in fear. It comes out of your words constantly. All these what ifs which you and cowards like you keep using as excuses to brutalise everybody else and the planet. You are so busy being scared of everything. Is that what comes of Pillgaing a quarter of the Planet's resources, are you starting to feel a bit vulnerable? Been crapping on too many people for too long maybe and you know in your hearts that payday is coming? however you look at …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 8:02 pm

    Scorpy It has been established that the Bali Bombings were staged by the Police or Military in Indonesia. This has even been reported by the MSM here in Australia. We do actually get a bit more news than you of course, so Rabbit will just update you on a few more things. The planes crashing into the two WTCs and the Pentagon have not been proven to have been carried out by Muslim Fundamentalists by any normally accepted process of investigation, but it is hardly secret that more people believe the US government was at least complicit, so you'll just have …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 8:32 pm

    Wolf do you seriously believe it was Saddams Palaces which were starving the Iraqi people? It was the sanctions you clown. Saddam nationalised the country's oil and was using the money to build roads, schools and hospitals among others. All those are being destroyed now, while the people are dying at a higher rate than under the Baathists, and a new and even more brutal, and fundamentalist regime is coming down harder than ever on the long suffering populace. These are your doing. You invaded because of lies by bankrobbers and dissenters, led by the CIA.

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 24 Nov 05
    • 6:32 am

    Does WileyWitch know Riverbend? Baghdad Burning Here is Iraqi womanhood, in all her sophisticated, wise and wonderful beauty. Rabbit knows that River is just one of many and what she has mostly which makes her noticeable is her fluency and sheer mastery of the English language. As such here is the truth for those who have eyes to see. Compare the gentle, practical courage of a people who have been demonised and are being destroyed through no fault of their own. They are being bombed and forced politically back a hundred, two hundred years, not fifty. This is insanity. It …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 24 Nov 05
    • 7:21 pm

    AND a day to........................KILL............... Turkeys! ....................................................^^...........................................

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 24 Nov 05
    • 7:21 pm

    It is wonderful, if you are not a Turkey.

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 25 Nov 05
    • 1:03 am

    That's enough, you stick to Pancakes, upon which you may spread "Maple Syrup, if such a delicay should be within reach, you Canadian. You have had your Turkey slaughter already for this year have you not?

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 25 Nov 05
    • 1:09 am

    The proverbial killing of turkeys usually takes place some day before the eating day.
    I'm sure THAT matters to a turkey! So Turkeys do not live in fear of TRhanksgiving, but the day befofre thanksgiving. They probably have a Turkey Term for it, The Day of Death, would seem apopropriate. Anyhow, Rabbit who has had some experience of Turkeys has no sympathy for them. They are stupid, hubris filled, posing nincompoops, who have disgusting habits, (Necrophilia no less), no common sense and a Penis for a nose. Serves them right if Americans and Canadians feel an urge to eat them all …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 25 Nov 05
    • 1:25 am

    Dave Kill it............ cook it............ gobble it.............Don't wait Rabbit feels if you are going to eat a Turkey, you should kill it, then boil it's corpse for a couple of minutes. Now pull out all it's big nasty feathers, especially the big ones around it's bum, which might need pliars or vice grips to get a good hold. Remove all it's Turkey Guts. Cut it's tummy and pull them out. Now give the thusly prepared Turkey to the Kitchen who do Kitcheny things to the carcass. The final act, Eating of the Turkey, (With Honey Baked Little Potatoes) Brun Kartoffler …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 25 Nov 05
    • 1:27 am

    Heh............ Dave, do you know the Ozark mountain Daredevils?

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 25 Nov 05
    • 1:45 am

    That reminds Rabbit of a Turkey story he has saved up. It shall be posted on his new Bloggy thing. The bloggy thing will thus get something original. Rabbit must work many hours tonight, cooking little boats, the Rabbit needs two more ovens and molds just to make Kayaks quick enough at the moment. Everyone wants a little boat. Good insurance against the Tsunamis.

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 7:11 am

    Have you read the whole article Dingbat Scorpy? rabbit has, and that little piece is taken out of context and very selectively quoted. It gives a false impression of what Hellyer and others are saying and thus isn't worthy of further comment Scoop. When you've read the whole thing your self, and if you then have a point about what is being said by Hellyer, and not what is being said about Hellyer, go for it. As for saying UFOs are real, well what rock have you been hiding under Scorpy? Since your supreme ignorance is already well established it is …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 7:25 am

    WileyWitch Upon reading your post, you ask some reasonable questions and Rabbit has answers to these he thinks. The first thing to say is that much of what Rabbit wrote to Scorpy still apllies but without the underlying tone which is reserved for Rabbit's....... Scorpy. The article needs to be read in its entirety, and furthermore, without a good few days reading of contemporary reports, a bit of background, this will still leave you very much in the dark about a subject which nmakes debunkers about as intelligent looking as the average Bush supporter. Truly the two have a lot in …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 7:27 pm

    No prblems Scorpy, Did you think Rabbit didn't know what you were doing? Rabbit thought, now look at this, the Troll is trying to be subtle. If a Troll is usually a brick in debating, a subtle Troll is like a brick wrapped in a tissue. Rabbit thought "Do I take the bait? Do I call him on it? That would be a pity thought Rabbit, the Troll is trying to be clever, and this would only convince him that being clever is no good. So Rabbit decided, what the hell, being an honest Rabbit means that ducking issues out of …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 8:03 pm

    Rabbit repeats for WileyWitch's sake, that he is not intending most of this for him, if he is sceptical about any of this, Rabbit will naturally resond respectfully to reasonable posts, but Scorpy and Rabbit have much water uner the bridge, and Scorpy knows Rabbit bites, as well as Rabbit knows Scorpy shoots his own feet off on most issues within a few posts. Nevertheless Rabbit loves Scorpy. He is Rabbit's pet Troll. Rabbit chose him to keep, when we were sharing the site's trolls and morons among some of us. Sometimes Rabbit has been less than carng about his troll, …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 27 Nov 05
    • 10:13 pm

    Rabbit doesn't think the dickheads even know that most of the rest of the world now hates the USA. Those representatives of the caste prefer to deny anyone hates them. Except the bad guys of course. So when an Australian like Rabbit tells them this they assume Rabbit is radical and violent and, bad. Rabbit saw the funniest and yet telling incident on an al-Jazeera thread the other day. An Egyptian made a favorable comment about Iranian Prime Minister Ahmadinejad, saying that he wished they had as honest a leader in government in Egypt. There was actually quite a bit of …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 29 Nov 05
    • 1:35 am

    Just when Rabbit gave up reading anything into a name.................. Of course Witch is Woman. Now if you had been WileyWarlock maybe.... Well don't go following Luminous Beauty into the Restroom. Others, if they are interested; The Batty Natty has jumped into the Democrats its war thread, to replace Jay, right on cue when 911 came up. That and DU, she is a Shilling again. Rabbit feels she may have to be the first into the Museum Dave?

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 30 Nov 05
    • 1:50 am

    Roger? What do you mean Dave? rabbit always knew Roger to be a man. Natalie was so onvuiously in leaugue with Roger that rabbit had to play it a bit to decide if it was him or an accomplice, but never expected Roger was anything than Lt Colonel Roger Helbig, Shill for the Pentagon and Supreme Dope.

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 30 Nov 05
    • 1:55 am

    Whoops Sorry Dave, Rabbit got a weird idea in his head then, misunderstood you meant Roger first in the Museum of course. Roger may be the first Shill, Jay will be the first Troll, Also Natty, Thinky and Scorpy and Wolf S Britain to come yet. Rabbit is not yet sure what order or if it matters. The presentation will be important so must not be rushed.

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 30 Nov 05
    • 2:04 am

    The old bastard are afraid to die. Considering the Karma some of them have accumalated it is little wonder. The bigger the bastard the more he resents others having what he does not, youth and a future. Rabbit understands and knows that this is why Judges and Generals and Politicians care so little for the lives of young men. It is no doubt also why such scum bags as those three groups are so commonly found to be guilty of Fucking little boys.

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 30 Nov 05
    • 8:40 pm

    Now the Wiley Witch is probably up and riding again? Rabbit is under your toes, so the sun is headed here when from thence it goes. Now it's 9.30 am here and Rabbit has been at work for a few hours already. Rabbit has been following the story of Johnny Gosch, and paying close attention to Hunter S Thompson up until his sudden demise. The Judeo Christian tradition is one of Child Sacrifice. This distinction is lost on people for the most part. Wiley, it is the masses who should be taking the Librium. Infortunately it is their collective insanity which …

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 01 Dec 05
    • 10:30 pm

    Rabbit was supposed to reply in a certain way? Rabbit is doomed to dissapoint the lovely witch too, but she may wack him a bit if he does, he would never dissappoint her willingly. Yes Rabbit also is not in the mood for heaviness and it is tomorrow now for Rabbit, sunny and with little boats to cook. It pleases him to see Natty the Batty has not come back yet on Democrats, for it is too nice a day for fencing with Vampires. Something wuverly, touch the Rabbit's ears........................... ..........^^...................

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 1:43 am

    I remember that one, now. yes, nice memories. Pleased to see my kids know Bugs and Roadrunner and Wily Coyote and Porky.................Still going around here too. The new cartoons are garbage, complete crap, even the kids say this much. A couple of exceptions like Simpsons, but not in any class with WB, simpsons is much too sophisticated really for kids, it is a tragedy to me they watch and understand it. Those Rabbits are mostly pretty skungy, if you want to see a handsome Rabbit, see this fine Rabbit. Portrait of a Rabbit

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 1:45 am

    Oh and the boats, are easily explained. The Rabbit on there is not so cute as the other ones.

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 5:08 pm

    Binky? Could that be Binky from ADE by any chance? Rabbit has noticed a Binky somewhere on one of the sites he visits. Binky is a name for something Rabbit's do when they are very happy. It's a sort of twisting head flicking hopping dance. David is Rabbit's friend. You are now our friend.

    Posted to When Boys Will be Jarheads
    • 22 Nov 05
    • 7:16 pm

    Hee Hee, this one bites, Major. Actually Rabbit can't say as he had any problem with Wolfew's position. Rabbit had a slightly different view but for once would have to defer to the local knowledge. Being a Rabbit from OZ and all. It is hard to get over the feeling that the whole thing has been used, if not even set up, to displace the large proportion of poor and black from New Orleans, to the benefit of investment in the medium term. Rabbit sees no way to equate such as Wolfew as being in any way connected to such forces …

    Posted to Voter Disenfranchisement by Attrition
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 8:06 pm

    Pretty scummy little thread eh?

    Posted to Voter Disenfranchisement by Attrition
    • 20 Nov 05
    • 10:35 pm

    Rabbit's in!

    Posted to Cops and Harm Reduction Hotties, Oh My!
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 12:13 am

    Cooking little boats as fast as his little paws can take the heat, and in between Rabbit is reading down the thread and chewing little bits and pieces, before serious Rabbit words. In the mean time, Rabbit declares that Pot is virtually harmless as far as even excessive indulgence, but there are caveats, which Rabbit shall address. The whole issue of what is harmful, and in what ways, is big but simple in the sense that in moderation there is very little that the human organism and psyche cannot endure. As for Wolf's guess at "how" harmful is pot especially compared …

    Posted to Cops and Harm Reduction Hotties, Oh My!
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 12:35 am

    It is incredibly exciting to see cops and judges standing up for common sense and decency at last, and Rabbit hopes that the inevitable reaction in Oz will follow quickly on the heels of such enlightenment. Of course this state of WA, (Wait Awhile or Western Australia) will be a decade behind the rest of OZ, but it all helps. Come on Uncle Sam, get your act together so we can do the same.

    Posted to Cops and Harm Reduction Hotties, Oh My!
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 12:47 am

    By the way Wolf. Unlike Conservatives, Liberals are not all the same. Frankly everytime you try to anticipate Liberals, you are so far wide of the mark as to be lampooning something................................................... Liberals as such are more about personal choice anyway, the nanny state, or regulated state, is more your mob's vision, as it happens, and Libs don't own much uniformity of opinion as it happens. So how about you stop looking for people who are not there and address your points to those offerred by others. The fact that many here may have a "dog in the fight" as you …

    Posted to Cops and Harm Reduction Hotties, Oh My!
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 1:28 am

    Steve Rabbit reckons the best smoke is obtained by Decarboxilation of the dried weed. Which is like boiling the stuff hard in water (bubbling water), for an hour and then cooling before filtering through a pillow case orsomething and ringing out the excess, throw away the water and repeat with fresh boiling water. After second round all the precursor to THC is converted as well, increases the potency two to six times, and removes 60% of the weight, which includes all the water soluble tars etc. This comprises 95% of the bad stuff, carcinogens and tar forming gak. Once dried it …

    Posted to Cops and Harm Reduction Hotties, Oh My!
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 1:38 am

    As for Pot being harmful, let us see. Rabbit knows there is both anecdotal evidence as well as scientific whih clearly shows that in many areas people who regularly smoke the wonder weed are more healthy, mentally physically and it helps combat other serious health issues like, aids, anorexia, chemotherapy, (It is a disease, not a therapy) and Asthma, just to name a few. It helps stave off dementia and it would seem that we pot smokers are a bit better endowed in the Brains area if debating on this site is anything to go by. There may even be evidence …

    Posted to Cops and Harm Reduction Hotties, Oh My!
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 1:59 am

    Eating Cannabis is cool but not if you want to remain useful to yourself for a day. Good way to veg out on a nice summer day's barbecue, with a few hash cookies and a beer or two to wash it down, then a few hammocks and the stereo and a kayak handy in case some womble gets it into his head to communicate with the fish, or visit the island out in the middle. No don't do it Rabbit, its too far. No its not we went there this morning and it was really close. But its the afternoon now …

    Posted to Cops and Harm Reduction Hotties, Oh My!
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 8:09 pm

    Oh well, this thread is a bit boring. Hello......hello.....hello Yes there is an echo, the room is empty. Hop hop, Rabbit is gone......................................^^....................

    Posted to Cops and Harm Reduction Hotties, Oh My!
    • 16 Nov 05
    • 12:58 am

    WhatTheHeck if you but had the understanding of what goes on beyond the US borders.............What a loss you are to the movement for a better world. There is hope for you yet, when you can write so well about things you do understand. Truly you know things are not right, but you don't know how wrong they are, or what is the connecting factor and why we others are becoming more in number and in "Emphasis". Are we all really sharing in a collective insanity, which is overtaking more and more people, who are blaming fewer and fewer for things being …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 11:37 am

    There is a specific thread on Wal-Mart, I thought we were agreed the budding union initiatives were doomed from the look of that scenario there. Was WTH on that thread? Forget the name. Rabbit has never been a union person. A short while after University he worked in the mines and was in a union, the biggest. At the time we enjoyed exceptional conditions and wages. The mining companies were not poor. Rabbit's father was the Company Secretary of one of the mining companies, and there was more than enoughmoney to keep the shareholders at bay, and millions, in the early …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 19 Nov 05
    • 3:03 am

    Rabbit too has known plenty of employers and farmers too by the way, whose wives have to work just to help support the family, while the business is going through a tough time. Five years later the business is still struggling and they are forced to listen to dickheads like the prime minister talk about how splendidly small business is doing under his leadership. Rabbit went to a small business seminar someyears ago, which turned out to be a thinly disguised Liberal Party platform. Rabbit started asking some rather hard questions of the member of parliament they had addressing us, and …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 19 Nov 05
    • 7:27 pm

    WTH there is no way a sane and sensible person cannot see what you are describing. The situation here is vastly similar. What differences existed between our two labour markets and economic thinking have dissappeared over the last dozen years, especially the last few years. The description of the process is popularly referred to as Americanisation. It is not a complimentary term. When Protesters and some dissenting politicians talk about Oz being americanised, they don't mean it to give a warm feeling in the tummies of all who hear it. We are suffering the same losses of some essential industries and …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 19 Nov 05
    • 7:27 pm

    WTH Rabbit has had plenty of first hand experience of how closely big business is involved with all levels of politics and how even a goodly number of de3cent people will be able to wrest any power away from these well entrenched conspiracies. Rabbit can find no better word to refer to the problem as a unit. They are lesser and larger conspiracies, many interlocking and many pyramidal in influence. But they are private arrangements involving the undermining of public interests, in secret and for the benfit of a select few. It could be called corruption and it is, but it …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 20 Nov 05
    • 7:25 pm

    There is nothing intrinsically "conservative" about individual responsibility. What for example do you think is the BASIS of Anarcho-Socialism? Asa for the alcohol thing, of course that is the same here. We are of course sympathetic to the alcohol affected but, the "Criminal Act" under the influence of alcohol, is considered to be exacerbated by the fact that one was drinking. The same criiminal act, while under the influence of Drugs, if one claims that the drugs are your excuse especially, is treated relatively mildly. I believe this has the two fold purpose of demonising drugs and encouraging offenders to claim …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 20 Nov 05
    • 9:17 pm

    Rabbit thinks it is the labels WTH. They are half the problem. If we you did not automatically make many assumptions about Rabbit, based upon recognising him as LEFTY, I think productive communication would be easier. There is a certain wall which comes down as soon as we recognise "The Opposition" . Everyone does it to some degree, perhaps more so if one is locked into such a Left/Right paradigm. I like to think that I am not. In truth Rabbit is not typical of the "archetypal" left oriented, any more than you are of the right, but then Rabbit was …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 20 Nov 05
    • 9:22 pm

    Dr D The same attitudes and reactions are common to Rabbit's countrymen. It is similar all over the world. This is why the NWO is able to deal with the various populations using very similar tactics. The tactics of confusion, division and fear mongering, are working like a charm on the Mainstream, such that all people everywhere are watching their freedoms and privacy and rights being eroded without more than token resistance. People are so predictable, in groups.

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 20 Nov 05
    • 9:25 pm

    And...............Doctor D The ban on dissent which is being enacted there as well as here. Rather than face the criticism of government which such as we are making, the choice is to ban our dissent. The laws being enacted here now will stop most truth being disseminated in the media, if it is critical of the government or various other pet NWO projects.

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 11:10 pm

    No as Rabbit said, he was interested in whether or not you could recognise the poverty of Jays argument. Having specifically stated it was not intended for Jay, and Rabbit would not have said more, thus it is a long bow to draw by describing this as wedge tactics. Maybe if there had been issues in which the thee of us were involved, which there have not, or maybe if he were in this thread, which he is not. Besides which Rabbit does not seek to divide and conquer, but to separate the sheep from the goats, for the good of …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 11:10 pm

    This is invariably very obvious in the inevitable disagreements which arise. We may hold different opinions, but we in this camp, have VERY similar views about the facts which have led us to those opinions. This is the crucial difference and you are going to have to face it one of these days. The arguments which arise between us, in our camp, are about details, facts sometimes, and we always manage to establish which are the truth and usually one or both then revises their ideas, a bit, often it makes little difference to our overall opinions, but sometimes it does. …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 22 Nov 05
    • 12:09 am

    If however you choose to maintain the opinion you have, despite the fact that the facts upon which you first formed that opinion have proven false, then you are not worthy of respect, you are indeed treating your own ideas as unnassailable and you are mistaken if you think that is a normal and healthy human reaction. Rabbit has often said, you have not had a chance to hear many of his opinions, and that is true, because mostly he is labouring to get you to face some facts. They are not things which he is seeking to discuss, they are …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 22 Nov 05
    • 1:02 am

    There are different ways of dealing with this. Some donate money to charities, and thus purchase a measure of satisfaction. Many just live on and suffer some anquish that others are suffering. Liberals don't necessarily do more to help the suffering they just have more anguish about it sometimes. Some of us, and rabbit hopes he is one, are trying to indentify the critical factors which are creating some of the worst of the suffering and applying what resources we have to changing the underlying fault. It is distressingly obvious afetr a whiloe that the problems mostly come back to the …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 22 Nov 05
    • 1:48 am

    Rabbit just lost a chunk of post. Won't go through it all again. Just the folowing which was important.

    Anarcho-socialism A term which broadly refers to anarchism (social) and anarchism (mutualist). Most anarcho-socialists deem the term redundant, however, and prefer to be called "anarchists," not "anarcho-socialists." This is because they believe that the only true anarchy is socialist, and the only true socialism is anarchic. However, it remains a useful term, because it distinguishes them from others who, right or wrong, also consider themselves anarchists and socialists: for example, anarcho-capitalists and social democrats. Anarchism (mutualist) "A proposed socialist economic system calling …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 22 Nov 05
    • 1:58 am

    2001 economic piece. Written two days before 911, it is remarkably prescient.

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 22 Nov 05
    • 5:18 am

    Wish I was Dick Cheney!

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 22 Nov 05
    • 8:35 pm

    Huh Huh Yes, I don't blame you, It's one of the reasons I didn't re-post the lost bit, what's the point, nobody is going to read all this. Rabbit is kicking his old blog into gear to take up the slack when he feels the urge to verbosity coming on. It was mostly good though.............................^^...............................

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 9:54 am

    WTH, one takes responsibility for one's own mind, and uses the tolls which our technology and God gave you, and find the truth. There is nothing else to say, you are always harping on about the unprovability of things, I'm sorry you are in all important respects wrong, you have had more than enough proof of the issues we have gone through, most of them anyway, and if you cannot accept it, fine, but you know, and I know, you have not seriously looked at anything. If you had you cou;ld not keep falling back to this very lazy mental "losers …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 10:22 am

    You are being so craven WTH, the fact is that I always do multiple checks on things, I don't accept just one source as "proof" of anything. You always come up with this trashy excuse, a generality in answer to specifics. Apply this example to the issues, do not say such genral things when I have repeatedly "Proven" things, and shown these things to be FACTS. Give an example of anything of significance which i have sought to prove, if all you can do is say what you are, as an excuse to avoid the specifics, how on earth do you …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 10:23 am

    The official story about 911 has never made any sense from day one, almost half the world saw that in the first couple of hours. Since then the outcry over what happened and the amount of evidence which has been collated has given a muc more sinister picture. One which has historical precedents after all, one which can be intuited by even the half awake just by looking objectively at things and asking the age oild question, who gains? Rabbit and others actually have the research of truth, down to a fairly effective process, and it is being demonstrated around you …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 8:41 pm

    And your disbelief at the time was based on what? Circumspectio..........., no actual eyewitness reports and even at the outset some contradictory reports. The point is I din't accept it out of hand. I did not even disbelieve WTH, I just did not commit myself and argued that it did not seem likely. You did, and you are therefore the gullible one. So, Are you saying there were no riots in France? There were rioters, but they were not Muslim? Um................Are you saying you still don't know? The only place Muslim Rioters was reported, was in America, for your information, everybody …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 9:43 pm

    WTh This is a thoughtful and thorough treatment, but just so you can feel more confident, Rabbit will list a number of other sources, to help you see that there is indeed truth and proof of it. Remember Rabbit as a discerning person, never did accept the first reports of Muslim intifada in France, though that was the first couple of days spin thanks to the US controlled media. that was soon corrected elsewhere, just like the fact that it was not Muslim Fundamentalists who did the Bali Bombing. These are actually fairly well reported in the free world.

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 9:44 pm

    You claim to have read sources selectively, you have not yet given any source anything but this generic group treatment, if you had the gumption to say which source and which fact is the problem then perhaps Rabbit could clarify it. Instead as said you pull this stunt. No way Jose. You actually talk as if Rabbit has given "THE" source and that is all he has to go on. You don't know what a search engine is do you? You don't know how to read urls to see if it is a news site, and government one or just a …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 10:00 pm

    Funny when you say this: not possible to prove they are NOT there That is exactly what the US was demanding Hussein did, and also now with Iran. Everyone keeps telling you this, and it is the reason you are actuallu supposed to prove they are there or it's justa lie. You cannot escape the fact that Bush and the junta said the WMDs were there and they had proof. They did not have proof, and that is now proven. Therefore to say they had proof was a lie, and it was a lie which caused the invasion of a sovereign …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 24 Nov 05
    • 12:22 am

    One last link, it's the full bottle on the Weapons that weren't

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 24 Nov 05
    • 12:45 am

    WTH, you have only just read a few pages definition of Anarcho-socialism, you are making a few rather invalid points, do you seriously want rabbit to address these? If you are seriously trying to better understand before attacking the concept, Rabbit will gladly do so.

    Classless? For how long? The energetic, industrious, imaginative people would soon tire of doing the most work and feel justified in more rewards. The laziest, less intelligent, or just plain ornery would grab all they could with the least effort.
    All of the above is rubbish. Class cannot exist where no privelages are derived from …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 24 Nov 05
    • 1:09 am

    Self-governing? Oh, like ...of the people, by the people, and for the people...??? Been there, done that. ...mandated by reliable delegates. Any mandate will require enforcement were back to setting up a system of laws again. What you have here is the basis for reinventing the wheel of government One of the major needs would be to, ...provide for the common defense. Someone, somewhere, would soon discover this group of industrious workers and the goods they were producing and decide to take them and their goods instead of having to work.
    You are not even close to comprehending …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 6:11 am

    WTH, many people and institutions are opposed to the war, that does not make them unreliable. For cying out loud man, I used the Main stream reference, and you tell me it isn't reliable because it opposes the war? Listen to yourself. The article VERY clearly illustrates that the youth are not religious extremists, thgey articulate frustration and anger, do you realise they have unemployment up to 40% in some of their areas? How far do you have to stretch something to make a religious fundamentalist case out of it? You bloody dummy, can't you people ever get it through yoiur …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 6:40 am

    Of course you are right and Rabbit is wrong, WTH. Bush never lied, Iraq was a Terrorist threat and now it is a budding democracy. The Iraqis wanted America to SAVE them and they are just happier every day for you. America does not torture anybody and even if they did, they deserved it. That is why America does not need to belong to any Human Rights treaties. They are for nations like the rest of the world who need American guidance in these things. Of course the US economy is doing fine and things have never looked rosier. AND of …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 6:44 am

    You still think I would change your ideas when I seek only to ensure that the facts are correct. Then we can decide if they are relevant. You use a supposed fact to support the invasion of Iraq. Rabbit challenges the fact and for any normal person, proves it is wrong. You then claim that the truth cannot be known. Well sunshine, what makes you think the FACT was worth quoting as support for your ideas then? If you cannot even defend the FACT against serious research, not anything, just say, "Nothing can be known for sure", well then your ideas …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 6:31 pm

    Ah, but neither does it make it reliable Being frustrated, angered, and unemployed does not eliminate the possibility of being a religious extremist, or a potential religious extremist cant YOU see that? It appears we have at least one thing in common None of this constitutes more than the losers limp again., "Nothing can be known." It is obvious you avoid the parts of Rabbit's post which show thids argument to be spurious. <>i>REALITY: Nonsense, I have been doing this for years and it is not only not magic it is not a truly reliable source for many …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 6:32 pm

    You are happy to use any Fact which pops into your head to support your own argumenst, but you will not use the interenet to prove anything. You deny anything which you don't know or which doesn't fit your preconceptions, since the internet is unreliable, and yet the Internet is obviously the most reliable, and democratic institution left in the world. Sure anybody can put anything on the web, but dummy, so can anybody else come along and prove it is crap, if it is. The fact that you can keep on saying something as patently absurd as this is what …

    Posted to Why The Law Is In Shambles
    • 12 Nov 05
    • 3:09 am

    Good Article. About time this angle was articulated. This is the reason the so called "drug War" exists and Rabbit like others has always known it. This is what makes "Drug Users" rebel against the system, not the substance. It is the realisation that the bastards are after interfering with our minds. We will expand our consciuosness, and if it is not good for us, how come we eat you MF's in debate? Spoken to the prohibitionistas. It is here the revolution begins. Rabbit has NEVER been one to creep around. He has smoked joints in pubs, in parks and at …

    Posted to Give Me Cognitive Liberty
    • 12 Nov 05
    • 3:12 am

    Not even a speeding ticket. On the other hand fifty screaming cops with guns crashed my 8 yo daughters birthday party, once and made like big bust for nothing another weekend, not long after Rabbit had begun to become quite political.

    Posted to Give Me Cognitive Liberty
    • 13 Nov 05
    • 3:09 am

    Pot makes Brain cells grow.

    Posted to Give Me Cognitive Liberty
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 4:51 am

    2000, does anyone expect the picture to be better now after five years of "Compassionate Conservatism"? Except the usual suspects. Come on down trolls.

    Posted to Symbol of the System
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 4:54 am

    Since he is an early Rabbit the post is re-done with the electrons in line this time.

    A book-length report on U.S. labor practices released by Human Rights Watch in 2000 found that workers freedom of association is under sustained attack in the United States, and the government is often failing its responsibility under international human rights standards to deter such attacks and protect workers rights.
    This was in 2000 does anyone expect the picture to be better now after five years of Compassionate Conservatism? Except of course the usual suspects. Come on down trolls.

    Posted to Symbol of the System
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 7:05 pm

    Rabbit had some experiences with Big-W here, the same thing, probably the same corporation for all I know. These experiences were in 1979, I was a casual and fifteen. There and then Rabbit resigned, and vowed never to have more to do with corporate employers, and I have watched them grow and spread like a terrible cancer since. Back then nobody else would dare treat their employees so bad, now this is the norm. The big corporations set the standard, such that they inevitably bring down standards for everyone. They get away with it for long enough until it just becomes …

    Posted to Symbol of the System
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 7:26 pm

    WTH Rabbit never calls you names either in the sense that you seem to mean. Rabbit describes the affliction under which you are labouring sometimes, and while these can be sometimes unpleasant labels, if the hat fits, Rabbit feels it should be worn by you. You are the most stubborn person, you have good attitudes to many things but you are so determined to maintain the status quo of your ideas that you often venture into moronic behaviour in order to avoid things. As it happens, when you are actually informed about something you and Rabbit often agree, or at least …

    Posted to A Foul Tragedy
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 7:46 pm

    The political parties are not looking at issues on their merits. They are chossing what will get them elected. This is complicated by the fact that the opinions of the sheeple are also able to be so easily manipulated by the "Ministry of Information" MSM. Those who run the Ministry of Information, also own the pollies in the parties, so it is them, not the pollies who usually choose the issues. It really has become just one big entity, the media is long since gone to NWO mode, the governments are bringing the people along in catch up, but the leading …

    Posted to A Foul Tragedy
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 7:53 pm

    Hi Luminous, isn't it obvious who does not read the threads they are posting on? WTH and JC were on the thread where that little issue they still misread was raised, and they are still labouring under that missaprehension. It is kind of kinky to watch, and Rabbit for one is glad he got that one sorted out, Rabbits being what Rabbits is. Luckily we are separated by the ethers, because people with their eyes closed but who assume that this means nobody else can see anything either, might do odd things in the imagined darkness. Rabbit assumes this fruit is …

    Posted to A Foul Tragedy
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 11:20 pm

    The "Beautiful" Lume knows the "mystery" of which Rabbit speaks? The mystery broached by David one time?

    Posted to A Foul Tragedy
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 11:02 pm

    Thanks Curious friend. Rabbit thinks it funny to watch and feels that it is interesting because certain remarks are clearly thus slanted. He does it himself, witness Nat the Bat, who by the way is flapping about on God Squad and she poked her fangs in once on Democracy too.

    Posted to A Foul Tragedy
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 4:38 am

    Yes to all of the above says the Rabbit. To think it.........A top Cop too.................the same thing happened in Denmark a few years back, but I think he was incumbent. Not that this Cop is relevant to Rabbit, he is in West Oz. But the situatioin with Police Corruption is intense, the undercover police force has endemic corruption. Rabbit has had experience, up close and personal with these scum bags and has seen the slime in action. Knows many people, Rabbit gets around, and the stories mount up. So many bad bad things are done by the Police at the levels …

    Posted to Breaking Rank
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 3:13 am

    SCORPY keeps forgetting that the only reason anybody thought Iraq had WMD's before the US launched its illegal attack, is because of falsified US evidence. We remember even if the Scorpy conveniently forgets. Jay Decline is as foolish as ever. Here is how much the Iraqi's enjoy their new found "democracy". Oh and notice that 82% of Iraqi's want the USA out now. Only 1% support the idea of a permanent US presence. These are not your devious little propagandised US press monkeys, these are from Iraqi themselves. Why don't you look at what the lovely Iraqi girl who …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 3:21 am

    Beowulf Rabbit can see you have gotten caught between the site's tow dumbets trolls. Scorpy and Jay Decline are the two dumbest, most willfully ignorant sacks of unfounded ideas you'll ever meet. By the way JC , Rabbit can see you are imitating some of his own private mannerisms when you think Rabbit is not looking, you like Rabbitisms that much afetr all don't you. They must have hurt you well for you to think they might work as well for you. Dimwit. Beowulf, don't try talking logic or expecting any rational debate with these two, they are merely amusements. Give …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 3:37 am

    Rabbit posts the following words of Jay's

    I never said your facts were wrong. scorp did. All I said is that you have a conspiratorial mindset and my past experience on this website is that no matter how much time I spend disproving your alleged facts, youll dig up more. Im not immortal. Time and energy and patience are a premium. Demonstrate a modicum talent in logic and Ill take you more seriously.
    I Rabbit, do solemnly declare that JAY CLINE has NEVEr proven anybody on this site wrong about anything. That is a FACT, it stands, as Rabbit's claim …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 3:46 am

    Beowulf Please excuse the Rabbit's somewhat untidy postings, they are always from the heart but he is an untidy lazy sort of Rabbit who gets a kick out of his own spelling errors sometimes, and the truth is Rabbit cannot be forged since his eclectic style is natural. Why would anybody forge a Rabbit? Why would anyone spout nonsense which is doomed to total destruction at the hands of knowledgeable and informed people?

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 8:38 pm

    Rabbit has pointed out quite clearly that JC has never gooten anything of substance right, on this site. If this were not true he could prove it, but it is true. As for the Bushes you silly Court Jester, what is your spin on Skull and Bones and what about Bomemian Grove? Does child sacrificial ritual and rituals including acts of gross perversion and pledges of allegiance to satanic orders come into relevance or is that just good old fashioned fun where you come from?

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 8:40 pm

    Halliburton has raped the American Economy, on the backs of your soldiers and while Bush held it down for them to do so. He has managed to take a good piece of it himself, but that's all good for JC the CJ.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 8:44 pm

    You miss everything of consequence Silly Troll. ......................................^^......................................

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 8:47 pm

    How about the Bush and Bin laden joint accounts and things, is that contemporary enough for the Jay? What about the Saudi, terrorist financiers as well, connections with Bushes in OIL companies? The funds used for 911, have been traced almost to Bush's backyard.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 8:52 pm

    As for Jail, Jay, Dubya will be facing the death penalty if he ever is tried for even one of his main crimes. The anticipation is not that it will come, Rabbit expects all hell to break loose any day, thanks to the bastards who have dimwits like you under a spell. Bushler will get blown away with the wind, before he ever gets to trial for anything, and I think he knows that. These people are living as if there is no tomorrow. They have given up all pretense of hiding their crimes anymore, and the only reason you can't …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 9:15 pm

    Bush Watch, Money A well referenced history of Bush-Saudi connections.

    DESPITE CLEAR TIES TO TERROR, BUSH-SAUDI TIES STRENGTHENED BEFORE 9/11: The Bush Administration maintained and strengthened its ties to the Saudi government upon taking office. As the Boston Herald reported, a "revolving U.S.-Saudi money wheel" exists "within President Bush's own coterie of foreign policy advisers." First and foremost, the current President's father "remains a senior adviser to the Carlyle Group" an investment bank with deep connections to the Saudi royal family, and received $1 million for his Presidential library from the royal family. George W. Bush himself is …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 9:18 pm

    JC will ignore anything which is too real, and which is too threatening, he is not a very brave troll, one of the reasons Rabbit despises him. These postings of Rabbits are about contemporary Bush ties to terrorists via money, which is in comparison to Bush money ties to Nazis and JC if you don't get it, at least rational people will. Once a bunch of Vicious Nazis always a bunch of Vicious Nazis, and you suck on it's teat now, as you would have done then. You'd have made a beaut little Stormtrooper Jay. You could have spouted the Fuerers …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 9:28 pm

    Scorpy has shown once again why he may indeed be something other than a troll and Rabbit has mentioned it before. Shill. Troll is more friendly and is meant to be, because for a shill you are still quite cute. The blatant propaganda, the excellent spin on the selected facts, is quite original everytime. Rabbit is too busy to go into it in detail, though he read it Scorpy, but may do so later. Rabbit does not think the Froggies are experiencing an intifada it is a class thing and while there is many muslims amongst them, this is not the …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 9:31 pm

    By that I meant a link by the way. To the French problem.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 10:25 pm

    Huh.................... a Troll love in........................How sweet..... The blind quoting the blind. The morons have impressed themselves, and each other....................................... Chuckle Chuckle........................

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 11:32 pm

    Exactly as Beowulf put it. Wilson did not lie, the Administration did. What dif does it make that his wife, had anything to do with him getting the task? She was clearly in an operating capacity to contribute to such decisions, there is no suggestion she or he hid their relationship or that there was anything improper about it. Rabbit has worked in same companies before with his wife and we have interacted on many levels in the workplace, so what? We both did splendid jobs and that was that. There is nothing improper here. Neo-cons and their stooges like you …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 12:26 am

    America's Engineered Decline

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 12:29 am

    From the article.

    Grigg exposes America's impossible debt load. We've transformed from the largest creditor nation into the largest borrower in world history. U.S. consumers carry a $2.0 trillion debt with the average credit card balance exceeding $8,000.00. When you pile that onto the $7.9 trillion national debt-a lump the size of a bullfrog throbs in your throat. What happens when foreign investors raise the interest or call in the debts? At some point, China may peg its Yuan to the more valued Euro dollar-collapsing the U.S. dollar. "That will create hyperinflation-the swiftest way to destroy the middle class," said Christopher …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 1:38 am

    More for the Scoop who clownishly described the problems in France as a Jihad.

    France's biggest Muslim fundamentalist organization, the Union for Islamic Organizations of France, issued a fatwa, or religious decree, that forbade all those ``who seek divine grace from taking part in any action that blindly strikes private or public property or can harm others.'' Coming to a neighborhood near you. Its coming to get you Scoop. The poor and downtrodden are rising up in spontaneous violence as the NWO plans fall into place. You have done your masters proud, Scoop. Cheerleaders of disastrous policies, and leaders …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 1:45 am

    Blockhead Rabbit. Will re-post it for JC likes likes the boxes so much.

    Frances biggest Muslim fundamentalist organization, the Union for Islamic Organizations of France, issued a fatwa, or religious decree, that forbade all those ``who seek divine grace from taking part in any action that blindly strikes private or public property or can harm others.
    What jihad was Scoop was blathering about? By the way whay problems are there in Denmark, the land of fairytales and ryebread healthy minds and bodies? Rabbit has heard nothing about it, is this another of Scoopy's dreams.......... from whence he gets all his …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 3:14 am

    Boing..... Boing.....Rabbit has a little surprise for JC. The things one finds when not looking for them.

    After the seizures in late 1942 of five U.S. enterprises he managed on behalf of Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, failed to divest himself of more than a dozen "enemy national" relationships that continued until as late as 1951, newly-discovered U.S. government documents reveal. Furthermore, the records show that Bush and his colleagues routinely attempted to conceal their activities from government investigators. Bush's partners in the secret web of Thyssen-controlled ventures included former New York …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 4:57 am

    More War crimes. Come and justify this one, cheerleaders for American Values and Democracy versus the Evil Muslim Terrorists.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 8:51 pm

    No need to worry your evil mind about it Natalie the artcile is well researched and it is accurate, so is this one. WAR CRIMES Rabbit has shown himself to be very careful about what he believes Natty which is why you have never estbalished a single point against Rabbit in all the time he has known you. You have never been able to make a case for the things you believe and despite your beliefs flying in the face of proven reality, you still maintain them unchanged. What exactly does a closed minded government propagandist, with a history of …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 8:53 pm

    11/07/05 "La Repubblica" -- -- ROME. In soldier slang they call it Willy Pete. The technical name is white phosphorus. In theory its purpose is to illumine enemy positions in the dark. In practice, it was used as a chemical weapon in the rebel stronghold of Fallujah. And it was used not only against enemy combatants and guerrillas, but again innocent civilians. The Americans are responsible for a massacre using unconventional weapons, the identical charge for which Saddam Hussein stands accused. An investigation by RAI News 24, the all-news Italian satellite television channel, has pulled the veil from one of the …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 9:08 pm

    You idiot Jay. The USA has killed at least 100,000 civilians so far and not even a tenth that many real insurgents. This is a little over the top as far as accidental killings goes, and you are ignoring the FACT that the military has targeted CIVILIANS from the outset. They have bombed towns and entirely destroyed whole areas, as well as poisoned the country with Nuclear Waste. You are committing WAR Crimes and the story is right here and it is is factual, not opinions, unless you consider the opinions of UN leaders and Heads of world Humanitarian Organisations. You …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 9:53 pm

    Jay you talk a lot about joining the dots, maybe not you, but we'll run with it. You talk about a few low level trials of soldiers who are caught in abuse. You talk as if it is a few isolated incidents which the All Good American military is taking care of. Only a week or so ago you had the president of the USA fighting to stop a "NEW" bill passing because it tried to "once again", outlaw torture by the military. They are saying from the very administration that Torture is permissible. They actually sought and GOT exemptions for …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 9:55 pm

    Bullies always seem stronger but they are invariably brittle in their strength. One good punch from the Rabbit shut a few down, but always even when the bully was much bigger Rabbit found that determination, the will to go on, was what brought them all undone. No bully can become a bully and be a truly strong person, because strength comes of adversity. The strength of the bul;ly is no more than his confidence. Take that away, and the biggest bully is hollow inside. The US military strength for all its impressive size and whizzbangery, has been remarkably unsuccessful as a …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 1:10 am

    That is a very good example Natalie. Rabbit mentioned the story, without committing himself as your quote shows. You immediately debunked it with only half the facts about the story even then. Rabbit pursued it and posted the following.

    Rabbit first said.....Anybody heard more about the possibility Barbara Olsen was arrested on a German border recently?.. Then he said this shortly after... In the interests of not wasting space, as far as the Barbara Olson possibly being arrested, I cannot find anything which gives enough credence to it to be worth discussing at this point. This does not say Rabbit rules …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 1:15 am

    Natty in an attempt to show the Rabbit is foolish used a prime example of Rabbit's rational approach, what a goosey girl. Shall Rabbit post some of natalie's pearls? There are some rippers and I'll bet you don't even realise how hilarious some of your antics have been. Go on Dare the Rabbit Natty. Better just ignore this one and attack someones character that's what you're best at, and as far as that goes, I wouldn't give up your day job, assuming this isn't it.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 2:34 am

    Bubble bubble toil and trouble Nattys case is a pile of rubble. How do seven suicide bombers stay alive after the act Natty?

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 8:09 pm

    What a clown Jay is to say this:

    Beware of Rabbit lies. I have addressed Rabbits conspiracy theory and provided refuting evidence in a previous topic, but like you he provided revisionist data and interpretation.
    Rabbit has already pointed out and others have too, that Jay Decline has never successfully refuted anything. He was invited some time ago to give an example, but he didn't and can't. He has been crushed like a bug on various threads, where it will be seen he plays the same pathetic avoidance and rhetoric games, then reverts to semantics when pinned down on his …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 8:22 pm

    Beowulf It is plain to see that you have kept a sharp and informed eye out for a while. Hope we see you adding your views and info more often, there are as you may know some very enlightened and open minded people on this cosy little corner of the Cyber world. Not too many souls to keep track of, and threads which meander long enough to appeal to "Globetrotters" of the Internet from Oz, Britain, Canada and Germany among others. We have as you can see a couple of quite entertaining "House Trolls" and at least one permanent government Shill. …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 8:33 pm

    JAY DeCLINE says:

    Seriously, beowulf, if there is a question that I havent addressed, please restate it. I think it is obvious to all that I dont shirk from a difficult question even, or especially, if I have a response that will inevitably be unpopular. Fear is not in my vocabulary.
    ..........................................................................^^................................................Poor Rabbit. The Rabbit has just gotten up off the floor. His sides and tummy hurts. he wrote the above before getting to this PEARL of JC the CJ. .......................... This is the most PERFECT Self Irony ever. Rabbit must confess, he had previously bestowed the title of King …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 11:30 pm

    That part was being left to you Lume, "Fear and Loathing in these times"

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 12:28 am

    Rabbit thought it was actually a Fireworks Mortar kind of thing, Hunter got shot out of. Rabbit has his own desire to be shot out of a cannon actually. The problem is Rabbit would prefer to mill the Blackpowder from his own ashes himself. He is not trusting some other pyro to do it well enough. Rather than a Star Shell, Rabbit would prefer to be the Propellant for a really wicked big rocket, Rockets are so much more saticfying than Shells. There would be enough Charcoal left over for a nice big Spider or Golden Willow starburst at the end. …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 12:32 am

    Rabbit set out to explore the old world with a copy of Fear and Loathing and the Great Shark Hunt, in his swag. Or in his mind, can't remeber which. He was over here not that long before he kicked it, and made a pig out of himself as to be expected, what a guy.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 2:10 am

    Retro................. Really

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 2:25 am

    That reminds Rabbit of something actually, Lume may appreciate it and since the thread is meandering, who is a Rabbit to swim against the current? A few years ago, oldest son had a Billy Cart race for the Boy Scouts. (I think you call it soapbox derby) Rabbit had his fireworks Company and his pyrotechnics lab at the time, and we lived in the country, a few hundred Kilometers from here. Rabbit had a grand idea whist building the Little Billy Cart, of fitting the thing with a huge rocket. Yes Warner Brothers was on his mind I guess. Rabbit set …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 3:18 am

    The ten or so Dads were all lined up at the start line of the big hill and crack goes the start gun. Most of the Buggys got away from the start line a second before Rabbit as he was lighting the fuse with a match. He could have used electric det but wanted the Warner Brothers effect, the Wily Coyote look to maximum effect. The Rabbit gave a big push with his legs and lauched the buggy forwrd just as there was this almighty BOOM, and the Rabbit the whole crowd who were standing behind the start line, dissapeared in …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 7:58 pm

    Thanks Beowulf it is interesting to see the Grove, in MSM. It is no longer that rare for "Skull and Bones" to get a mention, and both this issues were things Jay and his wackjob delusional brethren called us conspiracy theorists for believing such lunacy. Now days as with all the truths which catch up to the ignorant sheeple's delusions, they just refuse to acknowledge it. Have you noticed how deafening is the silence whenever JC is challenged to produce something specific. The Faerless JC cannot even acknowledge a fact which is contradictory to his delusions. He cannot even acknowledge a …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 8:20 pm

    Beowulf, no luck with that url. Here is some tips for using this site. Go here, and get a Tiny Url link on your browser, its easy. This is important because the ITT format messes up urls if they are too long. Basically if the url gets broken by the width of the comments box, it doesn't work. So beware when posting even tinyurls on a line with other things. the next thing to do, is use the following html code. The A should be a lower case, it is done thus to stop the elctrons getting confused and …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 8:24 pm

    Damn the HTML dispeared. The electrons saw it and said that is theirs and so took it. Rabbit will trick the electrons. Read the following HTML code from top down as if it is from left to right and no spaces. < /a>

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 11 Nov 05
    • 12:28 am

    Jay you are going to get clobbered again, afetr that garbled argument. You sure don't get the point of much do you? Rabbit will return, but has boats to deliver. Probably someone will be along to crush you like the bug you are before Rabbit returns. Good Luck. The thing is evidence of 911 being a fake does not come neatly wrapped in a package which calls it thus. You bloody clown! The fact of it being a fake is deduced from examining such evidence. Jesus what a dimwitted Troll. Fancy in it's special pompous way, but dumb as shit. …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 11 Nov 05
    • 3:36 am

    Warned you Beowulf. He uses his few braincells looking up big words and trying to think of nothing to say. JC is a 100% pure blood Troll. There is NO sign of of any tainted genetics, he has the full compliment of Genes, in fact he has a spare Chromosome, as if you and I thought we had anything special, with our mere 46. jeez, thinks Rabbit, hope that is the right number. He'll take a chance, for fun, rather than check. Do a troll trick by spouting something potentially questionable without checking sources to confirm. Kind of like Spin the …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 11 Nov 05
    • 9:38 pm

    Rabbit is pleased to see that Lume, Beowulf and Gazoogle are keeping up the pressure on the Silly ones. God help the internet if people like Scorpy and Jay are ever free to post there claptrap unchallenged on sites such as these. Thankfully they spout such twaddle, that there is always likey to be someone who will not be able to let such blatant crap sit unmolested. Can Rabbit not swap his Troll for Lume's? To be honest the gloss on Scorpy is fading a bit. His posts are just so boring. He uses so many issues, almost all of which …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 11 Nov 05
    • 9:45 pm

    Rabbit is feeling too lazy this fine sunny saturday morning, to want to wade through the Scorpisms, which is really his duty, but Rabbit is feeling lazy, with a Pina Colada and a wee peace pipe in hand, Rabbit is going to read today, and post not much. He will also be spray painting the little yellow sailing dinghy for his oldest son, it gets it's last coat today. Son has had to help restore the little sailing dinghy, so he knows how a boat is made. Next week Rabbit's Son learns to sail. All men, and Rabbits should learn to …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 12 Nov 05
    • 1:09 am

    This Article is a must read

    Its clear that the military never needed to use napalm in Iraq. Their conventional weaponry and laser-guided technology were already enough to run roughshod over the Iraqi army and seize Baghdad almost unobstructed. Napalm was introduced simply to terrorize the Iraqi people; to pacify through intimidation. Cheney, Rumsfeld and Negroponte are old-hands at terrorism, dating back to their counterinsurgency projects in Nicaragua and El Salvador under the Reagan Administration. They know that the threat of immolation serves as a powerful deterrent and fits seamlessly into their overarching scheme of rule through fear. Terror and …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 13 Nov 05
    • 3:31 am

    Rabbit is sorry to teel WTH this, but you are being duped you poor sod. So a couple of tame soldiers got up and told you how much they are helping the Iraqi's. What a sad case you are to need to twist your mind to such delusions on no more than brief propaganda exercise. You really think that was just a spontaneous demo, of course you do. Well don't let the realisty get in the way of a warm fuzzy story. It must make all those attacks by insurgents just so much harder to understand, eh? Oh of course, you …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 13 Nov 05
    • 3:40 am

    AND Rabbits small empty vessels...... This shows that you are being overtaken by many others who are seeing the truth. That hole in the ground you wankers are living in, is getting less and less populated. another one for good luck. When even the Mormons are starting to doubt, things are looking bad. You clowns wouldn't recognise impending doom of course, so you should be going under the wheels of history any day now. When the whole shooting match goes kapow, don't you deluded clowns go sneaking away now will you. Rabbit expects JC and Scorpy and WTH to …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 13 Nov 05
    • 5:45 pm

    Thanks guys. Rabbit knows that Islamic Science was a leader in many regards. When we were running around in the forests of Europe with animal skins and worshipping rocks, Baghdad was the cultural and scientific Capital of the world. Then when you add the Chinese knowledge and wisdom, there wasn't much more needed to give the new age, which we pretend is created by America (via Holloywood), a serious push in the right direction. Was it an American who invented the Wheel? If nobody had invented the wheel yet, would America be the place where it would be invented? Would the …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 14 Nov 05
    • 6:39 pm

    Thanks Beowulf, like rabbit said luckily you are here to wack thses idiots. JC and Scoop, you do play with yourselves. Iraq Body Count is a propaganda effort. It has always existed as an effort to try and minimise things. There are various independant international studies, which variously put the figure of civilian deaths at 100,000 to 250,000. The most universally accepted figure is 100,000 but it is probably higher. We use the figure 100,000 to be conseravtice, because it is well established. Some of us have been watching the death figures from the start, very closely, and the truth will …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 14 Nov 05
    • 8:00 pm

    These were the figures from various groups as reported in the BBC at the date indicated. Civilian toll estimates at 10/04 Iraq Body Count: 14-16,000 Brookings Inst: 10-27,000 UK foreign secretary: >10,000 People's Kifah >37,000 Lancet: >100,000 Rabbit was being a bit unfair on Iraq Body Count, maybe, but the fact has long been noticed that their count is extremely conservative and other organizations have made much more thorough efforts to find the true numbers. Of course IBC relies completely on media reports, and it is of course obvious that there will have gone many if not most deaths unreported. Although …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 14 Nov 05
    • 8:05 pm

    The above does not prove anything, but it puts the Lancet Study in perspective, scientifically speaking. This means of course it will be useless to trolls so rabbit will go and find something better. Scorpy, you remind Rabbit of a stupid kid, poking a Lion through the bars, unaware that the door to the lion pen is open. Lume will be by to wack you about the noggin, remember to keep your thumb in your orifice, at all times, and don't you dare use any references for any imaginary facts.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 14 Nov 05
    • 8:43 pm

    Speaking of Zappa, Scorpy is Dubya's "Catholic Girl". Wonder if he has a tiny little moustache?

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 14 Nov 05
    • 8:51 pm

    The most compelling reason to accept the higher figures, is simply that the same individuals and organisations figures have been used to give the sort of figures such as deaths under Saddam, the number of Deaths in the Congo and other conflicts around the world. Our so called leaders, used their figures to justify and explain their actions when it suits them, it is a bit late to shut the door on them as reliable just because this time you don't like the figures. You can't have it both ways even though we know that is exactly how you clowns think …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 14 Nov 05
    • 9:09 pm

    Hee Hee.................................^^..........................................

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 14 Nov 05
    • 11:02 pm

    Read it and weep Hey hey hey all you Trolls in these Industrial towns I know youre probly gettin tired Of all the local clowns They never give you no respect They never treat you nice So perhaps you oughta try A little friendly advice And be a Jay Cline Hey, youll love it Be a Jay Cline Its a way of life Be a Jay Cline See the world Dont make a fuss, just get on the bus Jay Cline Add water makes its own sauce Jay Cline So you dont forget, call before midnite tonite The boys in …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 14 Nov 05
    • 11:04 pm

    Rabbit knows it is Scorpy day..................... but the rhymes would have made even Frank blush.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 15 Nov 05
    • 7:40 pm

    Jay for Gods sake will you stop being so bloody pompous. Can you not get it into your head that you are a moron, you do not have either interesting or insightful comments, you are so chock full of bombast that you can't even see when you are making a complete fool of yourself. It is also grossly pathetic to keep on posting your blog. You have now posted your blog about ten times, which is the only time you've ever posted any sort of link. Do you just cycle between your self agrandising wank fest and this site? Kuya is …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 15 Nov 05
    • 7:46 pm

    Rabbit just realised what a funny thing JC just did. Our original HTML poser, the mighty JC, has just after all this time, discovered something which we have all discovered when trying to post urls, about the space on the edge of the comment box. This just shows:

    1. Jay has never posted any sources as said. Jay does not read others posts Jay yaps before he thinks.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 15 Nov 05
    • 9:50 pm

    A group of veterans of Operations Iraqi Freedom and Desert Storm sharply criticized the Bush administration today at an event sponsored by Veterans for Common Sense in Washington, DC. Dave Debatto. a former US Army Counterintelligence Special Agent who was assigned in 2003 to Iraq, said he took part in thousands of interrogations in Iraq. He said his orders and those for his colleagues were never to lay hands on anyone, let alone torture anyone. Consequently, Debatto and other interrogators received a lot of intelligence through their cooperation with Iraqis at the outset of the U.S. occupation. However, he said …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 15 Nov 05
    • 9:51 pm

    Nobody is left in the world who agress that we should have attacked Iraq, or that we are helping in any way. There is almost total opposition to the continued US presence in Iraq outside the USA. The opposition to it is now more than 50% in USA. If JC understood anything about democracy he would understand that the fact that more Americans want the USA out, than want them in Iraq, makes it the DEMOCRATIC choice. The fact that more IRAQIs want the USA out of their country than want them to stay, is also the DEMOCRATIC choice. But is …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 16 Nov 05
    • 8:39 pm

    Kuya your view is shared by about half the sensible people Rabbit knows, and it is not exactly that Rabbit disgrees with most of the contentions about the likely effect of pulling out. Rabbit's determination is based upon listening to what the majority of Iraqis are saying and have been saying for a long while now. The internal strife, was non-existant to begin with, the Iraqis mostly were ready to pick up their country from what was left and they have the experience intelligence and sophistication to do it without further intervention. That was and still is the wests mistake. Have …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 9:30 am

    JayDecline. You have never looked at any sources posted by Rabbit. You have never referred to any fact or even the author of any source posted by Rabbit. You have consistently failed to repudiate anything anyone has ever said, even other Trolls have bested you on occassion. You have never done anything to support your own endless, unreadable bombast, except to puff yourself up like ill adjusted adolescant, and your personal boasting, and posing has become less of an amusement over time and of late it could be said to be just plain disgusting. Rabbit has Called You Out the first …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 9:45 am

    We all found out Lume is a bloke, while you just skipped over everything being said by others at the time because as always you were just so in love with your own postings. You babble on and Rabbit for one is glad you have chosen to ignore most of his postings about issues, because then Rabbit would have been forced to read all of your self stroking cods-wallop. It can be seen that others who have not been so fortunate are having a hard time of it, and Rabbit would advise Dave, who has exercised kindness and perhaps a little …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 9:46 am

    Hi Lume Just working late here and wacking the Troll, for a bit of exercise. It is about ready to pop thinks Rabbit.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 10:03 am

    That's some pretty nifty synchronous posts and within range of a similarly aimed blow upon the JC, you'd expect the combination to raise a welt. Just out of the blue, Rabbit and Luminous Beauty pitter pattering away on their respective electron interface (Keyboards), and jabbing the send button almost simulatneously from either end of the planet. To land ping, on the net, in glowing electron dances. Black shape dancing for them, language for us.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 10:55 am

    Rabbit can but agree with both your last posts. So many boats, so few Rabbit. The people Give us the little boats, give us boats Rabbit. Rabbit cannot make littloe boats quick enough, he is cooking them as quick as brownies, but still they want more.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 11:05 am

    Actually Lume Rabbit believes there are on a higher plane, a very small number of souls, "archetypal souls" so to speak. I think it is this dimension which is reflected in astrology, both eastern and western seem to be just different cultural expressions of their observations of something the same for all. Rabbit has noticed how when moving around, and Rabbit has moved around a lot, he always seems to form a new group of "Connections", relationships or friendships and aquaintainces. This on three continents, always the same pattern of personalities would gather around in Rabbits life, and it would be …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 12:39 pm

    Rabbit just had a post he'd worked hard on go kaput because it was 6322 characters long and got eaten on the return. Fuck it. Rabbit is too pissed off to say more tonight. You really are an Arse wipe Jay. You don't deserve any better response for your last bit of crap. You got a whole heap, too bad you didn't get top read it. You don't deserve crap. Just one final observation before Rabbit hops off. If you run around as the troops are doing and imprisoning everyone who is a potential insurgent. Then you mistreat and torture them …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 12:48 pm

    You lack empathy Jay, you are due a terrible lesson. Rabbit assumes you are of a similar vintage to himself, only because you say so. It would be a puzzle to one such as Rabbit to see so many and there are a few like you, who have come so far with their heads planted in their rectums. The balancing factor is of course on its way, and that is why you make a kind of sense. But not, unfortunately in the way you think. the only sense you make , is as an object. An Anthropological artifact. Put simply and …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 1:27 pm

    We disagree with your lack of considered morality. You have none. Your whole world is divided up between those you see as the same as you, and everyone else who wants to stick a gun up your nose or rape you. You are as Rabbit has repeatedly remarked a cringing coward. If you manage to wipe out evrone you will coem to fear, you'll be left with nothing but your own shadow, and then you'll be afraid of it too. Anything you a told to be afraid of you are, like a good little puppy. The problem is whenever you get …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 1:36 pm

    JAY

    I am only too well aware of how a dirty bomb can be smuggled into the country by a small group of people. People are successfully smuggled into this country every month in shipping cargo containers in our ports and in pickups across the Mexican border. Drugs are dropped in-country without detection.
    Of course, the boy has it, shit if the terrorists get wind of how easy it is we're done for. Drugs, people, even plants are smuggled in all the time, so obviously if the terrorists realise that, we'll be seeing that mushroom cloud any day. Hell it's …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 1:39 pm

    Rabbit imagines it must be hard for JC to sleep at night, with all these terrors looking up from every quarter. Suitcase Nukes, Arabs with nail clippers, Suicide Bombers under every headscarf. No wonder you need to know those nasty Muslims are being tortured and killed, so long as they are getting every scrap of intelligence that might help make your crappy little world feel a bit safer.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 1:53 pm

    SACRIFICE .
    You are one of the sacrificial multitude. The semi aware, splintered souls, who are here almost as extras. No lines are assigned you, just a loud and long horrified scream as reality dawns on you, too late. One of the millions of extras, just in the picture to fall dead with the rest. No need for you to have talent, or a fine costume, though you try hard to make your plastic sword shine like the real thing, but to what avail? When you are cued to die suddenly and horribly, possibly in the first real Muslim Terror …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 1:59 pm

    Yes you are a Reptile. Rabbit had as said as much

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 17 Nov 05
    • 2:07 pm

    Goodnight to the real people who may be about, and stuff you JC. Rabbit hopes you get arrested by mistaken identity and sent to GITMO where they will torture you until you tell them where Bin Laden is hiding. You'll get the standard beatings and roughing up, which most people who've done jail or prison know about, which would be enough to make a coward like you admit to being Bin Ladens 'wife' if you thought it would get you a few privelages. Then as said, the next shift comes on and wants to knwo why Bin Ladens wife Jay, doesn't …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 18 Nov 05
    • 6:36 am

    ..............................................................^^.............................................................................. Say nothing Rabbit watch the Troll.......................................................................

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 18 Nov 05
    • 6:55 am

    Dave Some people can bake the bread, and if we are not to be wandering around looking for grass all the time, some others may be convinced to grow the grain so we can harvest it and then more still can mill the flour. Others, and there will be others, may reasonably be expected to perfect the art of fishing and thus provide our scaly cousins in abundance that fish too, may be shared among the already quite substantial populace. Shall we go without Game? Without Pork? at least until we have Pig Farmers in the community? Thus it may fairly …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 18 Nov 05
    • 6:49 pm

    You still don't get it JAY. Nobody Rabbit knows got heated. You looked at nothing as awlays and you know nothing about 911. You said you looked at one reference, which I doubt even, and judged them all by that one. What a moron. You just defined yourslef as a moron. Rabbit keeps telling you to stop being apologetic for being rude or whatever. You cnnot ever have offended anyone, JC because you are not taken seriously. We all know you are a pathetic moron. You are so deluding yourself if you think anyone cares how you carry on. In fact …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 18 Nov 05
    • 6:57 pm

    How can Jay say

    But surely, you can understand, that I cannot just accept your assurances on simply your word, as good as that word may be.
    Jay you wacko, that is all you've ever done, and when others post sources you say they are useless and won't check them. It doesn't occur to you that you are being inconsistent? Jay it occurs to Rabbit that you hold only one belief in your head. The belief that you are a great sage or pundit. Thus the fact that it came out of your mouth makes it sacrosanct. You contradict yourself …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 18 Nov 05
    • 7:02 pm

    Scorp Incredibly, there are still some men who actually believe the main purpose of going fishing is to catch fish.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 18 Nov 05
    • 7:15 pm

    Heh, Lume, talk about synchronicity. Rabbit just got down to your post and read "insubstantial logic box". Rabbit was just independantly thinking of Jay's reasoning as being locked up in a box, see above post. Rabbit probably needs say no more, for you have doubtless noticed these things before too. It is I believe a distant echo of Telepathy. Rabbit's first wife, a French girl, was strongly telepathic. We were able to commune quite freely, from earliest days. Rabbits wife of twenty years and he have about a quarter the level over the years, but with Claire it was supported by …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 18 Nov 05
    • 7:23 pm

    The Day was warm and the Beer was cold, we laid out a couple of lines, baited up and cast away, then packed a cone and enjoyed the day.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 18 Nov 05
    • 7:25 pm

    Unless Trolling, then we stick to a beer or two, someone must steer after all and we could otherwise end up blue.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 18 Nov 05
    • 7:36 pm

    Heh Scorp That thing about esp and Fish, seriously, you know those people who always catch the fish? the one who is usually a bit odd, has a couple of crazy ideas, uses the wrong rod and reel maybe but otherwise doesn't seem to do anything different to you, and yet catches the biggest, most, or weirdest fish at least? Rabbit is such a one. Everywhere he goes. Rabbit catches the fish. Rabbit catches European Eels in late Autumn, supposedly impossible and also in early Spring. Maybe you too are one, and don't know exactly what it is? It is Telepathy. …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 18 Nov 05
    • 7:41 pm

    Actually that was a promise Rabbit cannot keep right now, since Rabbit has a trade show to go to, and must away. Return he shall in a working day's time. Will be happy to reply and compose a rhyme. In the meantime Rabbit would leave this thought in mind, Mark Twain. If we could live back then, in his books again.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 19 Nov 05
    • 2:43 am

    Rabbit has delegated the Trade show to someone, and come back to the cool office a bit early. Scorp. You shall have no more. The clue was there if you were interested but Rabbit has no need to cast pearls before anyone if they say "you are always chucking things about, so whatever" Rabbit can keep them in his pocket. Rabbit only offerred an observation It is not because he had needs to say more. Does Scorp know the fisherman Rabbit means at least? Or do all Americans always catch fish? Has Rabbit jumped to the wrong conclusion, and Scorp is …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 19 Nov 05
    • 2:50 am

    Actually Dave, Rabbit and Scorpy agree mostly about China too. Rabbit puts this down to Scorpy being truly informed about China. It could also be Rabbit is just wrong about China. Sorry Scorp. (I really do feel we have China right.)

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 19 Nov 05
    • 6:43 pm

    Beowulf Have you seen Prof Jones' report yet? It is the clearest and most irrefutable case for the explosive demolition Rabbit has seen. This professor may be the final straw. We know there are so many other unanswered questions, serious anomalies which deny the likelihood, eve th possibility of much of the official story. It has been said by many, that since the explosive demolition is the easiest to prove, outright, and is still the most damning evidence of official involvement. Rabbit is tending more and more to that opinion. If then one wants the latest and most well presented report …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 20 Nov 05
    • 6:57 pm

    OK JC How about you tell us which site you found so weaird, before. Because dickwad, the sources posted by Beowulf have been given before, you just ignored them, and as for thr Indian Ocean Tsunami, you do not know anything about the story to which you refer. There is enough in fact, that several countries involved think this may have been the case and the FACT is that it is possible. So don't demonstrate your ignorance on yet another issue by jumping without knowing shit. You "know" that the Tsunami was natural becaue it says so on TV. Others know …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 20 Nov 05
    • 7:16 pm

    By the way little man, tell us how Freedom4um,<>/i> which links incidentally to the same sources as many of the previous sources given on the God Squad thread, but is in itself a fairly anonymous site, is more reputable than: "The Idaho Observer" 911Research Physics911 World Affairs Brief Sorry to come around wacking JC Beowulf, you are doing fine, and it is understandable if you are convinced Jay is actually looking and thinking here, but you would be mistaken. Jay has been around the blackberry bush lots of times and we know his game. He is floundering a …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 20 Nov 05
    • 10:09 pm

    Rabbit admires the brave souls who smuggled this recording out, it is certainly the real thing, one can recognise the beast. They probably would have Richard bumped off anyway, since he was allowed to hear even that much. Off to Guantanamo. Does anybody want to join Rabbit and we can form a cabal, we shall ring the Terrorist Hotline, and nominate Jay as a possible suicide bomber? If three or four of us did this it should be enough to have him arrested and sent off to GITMO, where they will apply the approved methods of truth extraction. When JC has …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 2:47 am

    Assuming he hasn't changed his tune by then.....

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 2:51 am

    Will the eel bite the credibility worm?

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 21 Nov 05
    • 9:45 pm

    Another cut and run from the fearless JC.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 22 Nov 05
    • 8:10 pm

    Here here, Lume. What better last shot for Jay than to have a proponent of Depleted Uranium, Government LIES and Torture, as well as pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes, like the SHILL Natty the Batty. Beowulf did not post direct the above, thinks Rabbit but they were long since posted on God Squad and you ignored them then was my point dead buzzard. Not a Swan, Swans are nasty, brave and pretty, Jay is pathetic, cowardly and ugly of soul at least. So are you Natty. The Vampire returneth. New assignment have we deary? Or maybe the propaganda team has decided on the …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 22 Nov 05
    • 8:15 pm

    Beowulf, you deserve a medal for hope, the eternal optimist if you think Jay got anything past his sphincter. You see, that is the direct course to his brain and unless you know that you are wasting your time. This is also why Jay never says anything from the brain. How the hell can any thoughts travel all the way up to his mouth? So what the ingenuous fellow has done, is he has swapped the roles of the two ends of his body.

    The ideas go in his arse, and the Crap comes out his mouth.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 7:25 am

    Beowulf, Rabbit understands, and also uses such as Jay and even better the Shill, Natalie, to post to expound the truth. With them as foils it goes best. Natty who now pops in has been baited by Rabbit and expected. She would appear to be a government employed propagandist, the sort employed at the end of the long and sneaky line of and Rendon his type. How is Rendon Natty? Do you ever meet the big boss or do you just work for a smaller contractor? Natty has already smoked and mirrored and ducked and dived and dissembled and …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 7:31 am

    Oh and Natty has been asked upwards of fifteen times now to account for the Seven Live Suicide Bombers. She ignores things like that, while telling us that our sources and experts quoted take LSD or are part of a huge conspiracy of Anti_US interests. Or linking to the Fema report, or to any one of the half dozen lonely discredited well known spin holes.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 23 Nov 05
    • 7:39 am

    The link Natty posted is to nothing more than a discussion like these, and though off topic the details are even more thoroughly covered on our own God Squad thread linked to above. Talk about the endless story, you never give up do you Nat? Well Rabbit is not going to allow you to do your favorite trick of dancing around the Blackberry bush. The things on which you have been thrashed already, most everything, especially the FACT that the buildings were brought down with explosives. This has been thoroughly covered and you LOST, LOSE and are lost. Proffessor Jones came …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 24 Nov 05
    • 9:15 pm

    Why does Rabbit be a Ghost sometimes? Rabbit is a split personality.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 8:22 pm

    Natty we agree that people who ascribe to weird conspiracy theories are wackos. This is why we are now treating you as a wacko. You have this weird conspiracy theory which relies on a few government employess to claim it, against all evidence and by having a number of firsts in history, not once but up to three times on one day. Basically the conspiracy theory to which you ascribe is the most utterly insane and unbelieveable, not to mention dscredited one on the block. TRhis is why Rabbit did not even read most of your post anymore. You have not …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 8:58 pm

    Rabbit just skimmed your post, you did do a try at the live "alleged Bombers" after all. Sorry though it isn't up to anything. Rabbit will not waste his time. They are alive you dimwit, they have been interviewed, they have absolutely been proven to be alive as far as any news can be, heh, maybe the US is not in Iraq at all? Maybe all the pictures are just faked? If the living men had been photographed and videotaped, do you seriously expect us to believe you would have accepted that? Of course not, you would have claimed they were …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 10:07 pm

    Links are posted as refs only and if anyone cares they will be hyperlinked if you can't work them due to broken lines. they are merely refs for the aforementioned On the morning of September 11th, American Airlines Flight 11, along with 10 crew members and 81 passengers, departed from Bostons Logan Airport, at 7:59 AM, on route to Los Angeles. Investigators surmise that the plane was hijacked within 15 minutes after departure. It then traveled another 10 minutes and abruptly turned south over Albany, NY, where it followed the Hudson River down to NYC. During this entire flight, as confirmed …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 10:08 pm

    A crew member on that flight, Madeline Amy Sweeney, (purportedly) was able to place a cell phone call to her ground manager during the hijacking. The assembled FBI transcript of this (recorded) call, was reviewed by the LA times and published on September 20th. A close examination of this transcript, however, proves to be very perplexing for a number of reasons: In it, Ms. Sweeney claims that the hijackers had stabbed two flight attendants and slit the throat of a business-class passenger, killing him. In addition, according to a recently released FAA memo produced on 9/11/01, one passenger is even mentioned …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 10:09 pm

    Returning back again to AA Flight 11, another problem concerns the time-line of the cell phone call made by the flight attendant. In it, she claims that (shortly after) the hijackers gained access to the cockpit, the plane quickly changed direction and started rapidly descending towards the WTC - eliciting from her, the chilling statements: I see water and buildings. Oh my God! Oh my God! These were the last words of communication (supposedly) uttered by Ms. Sweeney, and, as the transcript of this call clearly demonstrates, these events occurred in quick succession. Therefore, it is beyond dispute, that (according to …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 26 Nov 05
    • 10:11 pm

    Taken together, all of the inconsistencies discussed above, and more of which that follows, may very well indicate that the AA Flight 11, as well as the other hijacked flights on 9/11, were commandeered by other means. This very possibility, has been proffered by a number of aviation professionals and pilots, who have voiced serious doubts that the suspects in question, couldve possessed the requisite level of navigational expertise, to expertly guide the planes to their targets (having trained unsuccessfully on propeller-driven Cessnas, and logged-in insufficient hours on flight simulators). This opinion is even further bolstered, by a review of some …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 27 Nov 05
    • 11:00 pm

    Rabbit is finished 911, you are beaten long since on the God Squad Thread, and you ran away therefrom to come and continue your crap and you are actually doing it again, you are going back over all the same stuff you have long since been finished on. the pattern is the same, you were being overwhelmed by other posters, all making mince meat of you and so off you go, and pop up later, or in this case somewhere else. It is a supreme deciever people, so BAD that the mere fact of her saying something makes it suspect. This …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 27 Nov 05
    • 11:07 pm

    By the way the Naty's sly innuendo about Rabbit and the PDF file, has to do with the fact that in the first war between she and Rabbit, she directed rabbit to a link which turned out to be a Government site which started doing much electron swapping and then sort of sneakily asked for a password to continue doing something it suggested I would be glad for. The Rabbit ran away fast. Ever since his computer was infected with more and worse hacking attacks. The computer was sick and crashed a few times on the hackers obviously, but that left …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 27 Nov 05
    • 11:12 pm

    And although Rabbit started above, he will not further fill up this thread with this issue.You are ducking the fact that you have got hundreds of posts destroying your crap on another thread, and gratuitously moving it, here. Considering how low you go in these things, you must be one hell of an interesting root.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 27 Nov 05
    • 11:15 pm

    Yes of course an Apple, you mentioned that before.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 8:52 pm

    No Natty the Rabbit hasn't even read your post, the vitriol is due to who and what you are. Rabbit knows that you are lying, dissembling, and that you have lost this issue on another thread. Having just said he will not continue this discussion since you have brought it away from the context of your so far complete anhiliation, this is blatant disghonesty and very rude and ignorant to the thread. You forget obviously that we have already dealt with the report you are now bringoing up and it didn't help you then, which was before Jones report. Jones' report …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 8:59 pm

    As for the PDF file you have posted above, Rabbit can normally read such but your last one is not running for Rabbit. This computer is not all loaded up with programs yet, since your Pentagom friends have raped his old computer, and don't fdeny it, Rabbit has had some confirmation of the hacking and if there is one thing that can be read out of it, my technician says that it is the most complete and thorough job he has ever seen attempted. Attempted because the old box crashed on them repeatedly. Rabbit repeats the vitriol is what you have …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 9:03 pm

    Oh and Natty You don't seem to be doing very well, your side seems to be losing. If nobody believes the government out of hand, how the hell do you expect to spin a failing story with so many holes in it, and a massively growing base of support from not only politicians and world leaders, but also from experts and proffessional in many fields and normal people who are waking up to the lies.

    according to a Harris poll released by The Wall Street Journal last Wednesday, 64 percent of Americans now believe that the Bush administration "generally misleads the …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 9:09 pm

    Dpleted Uranium use is also a WAR Crime, except that the USA specifically got an exemption for such war crimes at the start of the Iraq conflict. problem is, now that the proof is in that the War was started on the basis of deliberate lies, that exemption will be illegal too. Eventually your employers are going to be facing the most substantial criminal charges in history. Rabbit predicts that the Tribunals which will eventually examine the gross human rights abuses of the US Junta, will conclude that the USA has been the most horrible perpetrator of evil, genocide, torture, murder …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 9:33 pm

    Your lies are even more obvious when you claim to be so sure that explosives did not bring down the WTC's, and for your daft information, WTC 7 is almost universally accepted as having been a demolition, The owner admitted it. the thing is Natalie, no one can deny that the buildings appeared to come down via demolition, this is the only way buildings have fallen in this way. That is a FACT and you cannot deny it, without lying outright. Even if a few, experts seem able to convince themselves that such a thing was possible, that still only says …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 9:38 pm

    Yes Rabbit knows he is wacking the Shill on this thread after all, but no-one seems to be using it, and Rabbit did not ask the Vampire to come here, she flew in after running away from defeat on the other thread.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 9:47 pm

    During the afternoon of 9/11, the Mayor of New York city and the Governor of New York state held a press conference. Reporters asked 2 interesting questions: "Is there anything to indicate that there could be MORE BOMBS, more planes out there?" "So, the only National Guard we'll see will be in lower Manhattan, in the BOMB site area?" Neither the Mayor nor the Governor corrected the reporters by stating that there weren't any bombs, and that -- instead -- the twin towers had collapsed due solely to airplane and fire damage. If you were a high-level official trying to calm …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 9:50 pm

    A police officer noted "People were saying, 'There's another one and another one.' I heard reports of secondary bomb explosions ..."; A firefighter stated "there was an explosion in the south tower, which . . . just blew out in flames . . . One floor under another after another and when it hit about the fifth floor, I figured it was a bomb, because it looked like a synchronized deliberate kind of thing. I was there in '93" (referring to 1993 bombing of world trade center; A firefighter stated "it looked like sparkling around one specific layer of the building …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 11:10 pm

    It just occurred to Rabbit that the Troll Jay finally bit the hay. Rabbit posted the following immediately before he pulled anchor and sailed away.

    By The Way, Jay. The Professor Jones report is the end of the planes and fuel did it case, which is why the government Shill, Natalie, gave up when that came out. You are the most craven lying little worm Rabbit has ever met. Rabbit is preparing a special Jay post. In this we will be quoting some of Jays previous howlers and comparing them with each other. Rabbit promises you are going to hate it. …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 11:18 pm

    What does surprise Rabbit is that you saw the issue, and possibly your name, when after all you have only ever gone to other threads on this site, when one of your ssigned issues is mentioned. That has been few and far between, but just as with Depleted Uranium on the Unnatural Disaster thread, where you magically appeared after being exclusively on the Radioactive Wounds of War Thread. The connection being your assigned issue. That time Rabbit baited the thread in a deliberate effort to get you and Roger to prove your complicity, which you did handsomely. This time it is …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 11:35 pm

    On the Hijackers, the first thing you can forget is trying to chase red herrings. It is you who is demanding video footage as proof that the men are alive, it is not necessary and as said, the fact that the governmnet won't release most of the footage to show they have not simply added those ID's after the fact, which is by the way what most of us believe. They have used these peoples names and made claims based on the fact they were pilots and other supposedly incriminating evidence and yet they were not involved. Places of birth, birthdays …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 11:39 pm

    Abdulaziz Al-Omari Number 1 Al-Omari lives with his wife and four children in Saudi Arabia. Mr. Al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, walked into the US embassy in Jeddah to demand why he was being reported as a dead hijacker in the American media. BBC 23rd September 2001 a) "A pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking as well as being dead and has visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation." Independent 17th September 2001 b) "Al-Omari may have lived in Hollywood, Fla. and is reported to have lived with his wife and …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 11:51 pm

    MORE details Now we do know that there has been a couple of feeble attempts to spin this to mean that the ID's were stolen and used by Bin Laden's people. There is a very good reason why these do not ever go far, and it is you professional Liars who will not touch that excuse, and this is in itself a puzzle. Why wouldn't the Liars say that the ID's were simply being used by others? That would kill this issue dead in the grass. Why would that be? Simple. The whole case of it being hijackers rests on …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 28 Nov 05
    • 11:57 pm

    Here it was all along on 911 Research when Rabbit first asked you how you accounted for this months ago. This one is even more intesresting The fact that they have cobbled together some ID's out of two separate individuals is really fascinating. Especially when BOTH are alive and well. Have a look at this link people it really does make the whole ID thing one very good likeness of a smoking gun, in as much as an FBI frame-up goes.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 29 Nov 05
    • 9:38 pm

    Natalie Rabbit is now going to take you apart once and for all, your lies are tiresome, your avoidance and pretence is pathetic and not even amusing anymore. You have not made even a shread of a case for anything, except that you are so determinde to maintain a LIE against all evidence and logic. I cannot pretend that you are merely deluded, becaus eth level of avoidance is legend, you have avoided any serious discussion about the most damning facts preferring to ebgage in character assasination of people you are not fit to clean the shoes of. people who have …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 29 Nov 05
    • 10:07 pm

    How many people has Natty seen "get well", change their ideas to see the truth you think you espouse? Any converts lately? If you say so, everyone, will know you are lying, so don't do it. If everyone knows you are a liar, and also knows the truth, they have shown it, then why would yoiu persist in lying, unless you possess a craven soul. A sick massochistic sort of thing it is. There is nothing you can show us which we have not seen. many of us have read the offiical reports, and it is easy to find, I have …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 29 Nov 05
    • 10:29 pm

    --More and more evidence is being uncovered and more and more experts are finally breaking their silence, a silence not surpriing given the enormous ramifications of these findings. It is obvious to anyone, and it has happened to many, that to stand up and speak out, will be a destructive career move, at least and more than likely will see the person persecuted even to the extent of being killed. Obviously the Governmnet has to be involved since the buildings were demolished, even most lay persons realise that demolishing a building like that is very complex and a lot of work …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 29 Nov 05
    • 10:41 pm

    Truth needs only to be heard once. Of course it can be said many times without someone hears it, but one day, the words go in and the mind turns over and the truth is seen, it is gradual, and then finally a point of balance is reached after which the progress is rapid. With eys open more and more light comes in and one adjusts ones eyes to the light again. About this point those newly awakened souls become missionaries among their peers, for a while. Inevitably they are forced to re-evaluate some of their aqaintances as the true depth …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 29 Nov 05
    • 11:32 pm

    Some of them will buy it Nat, and you will be the one to sell it I'm sure. Have they promised not to send your child to war? or have they promised he won't have to use depleted Uranium Weapons when they do? Have they promised you anything except a job? Maybe he'll get health cover to be screened for Depleted Uranium poisoning at least. Or maybe you believe it is all you say? If so, Natty Rabbit sincerely wishes this opportunity shall arise for your sun, he does a little rabbit dance of magic when saying tha, and if Rabbit …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 29 Nov 05
    • 11:43 pm

    Natty in honour of you, Rabbit has begun a project, it will be aimed specifically at the things you have helped identify as weak stones under the temple of Babylon. You have by your own acts shown what is your worst fears. These qare the things Rabbit will be using you for. You will be used, as your wrods are imortalised. they will be placed under a maginfying glass, and you as well as your tactics also, will be seen as part of the exercise. Don't worry everything you said will be included, you are one of the star attractions. It …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 29 Nov 05
    • 11:46 pm

    Alongside of Daddy Helbig of course. Say hello from Rabbit. Give his regards to Mr Rendon if you see him too.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 29 Nov 05
    • 11:52 pm

    Another small observation of a Natty lie. Rabbit never did say he believed in the Missile hitting the Pentagon, but there is no proof that one didn't since the government has withheld the videos as said. There is credible evidence for this and several other possibilities, but that doesn't mean Rabbit has formed a firm opinion. As for Barabar Olsen, that whole issue was to rabbit's credit, because he heard about it, checked it and reported the facts as they were known, without any dissembling or ever once comitting himself to things he could not know, unlike Natty who "knows" that …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 30 Nov 05
    • 12:24 am

    Dave and Rabbit love Parables eh? they are so much more eloquent and precise than mere reporting. The sheeple are as always impervious to anything but the program. But one program is older still, Lets the truth be heard through lies and the swill The art belongs solely to the Bard and Poet When time calls these gentle souls come to know it The truth is not changed, just re-arranged into forms Which even the blind braindead Sheeple can percieve.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 30 Nov 05
    • 7:47 pm

    Natalie, lying Natalie, Rabbit has answered you, you have had more than enough reports and photo's, they are credible media reports all of them they are all there to be read, nobody including the FBI is trying to say these men are not alive. You are the one saying a Video tape is the only proof, and while there are reports of such for some, I am not interested in bothering hunting it down. The media reports refer to credited journalists saying they have interviewed the men, and they are satisfied it is them. Actually the last thing they want is …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 30 Nov 05
    • 7:59 pm

    Are you aware of how much energy was generated by the fall of those blocks of upper stories and the subsequent fall of the lower floors?
    Yes Natalie, I am, it was able to be estimated precisely, that is what physicists and engineers do. unless of course they are employed by the US government to report, in which case they selectively take facts, set up theoretical models to test the results of what they are trying to prove happened, and tweak things until they get the results sought. Rabbit has read the official reports and seen the rubbish, they ignore …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 30 Nov 05
    • 8:26 pm

    Whatever strange things happen in accidents, like the collapsing of scyscrapers from short lived and cool fire alone, there is a thing in science called probability. Now Natty, if the probability of such an accident happening for the first time, is 100:1, that would be conservative, actually it is probably 1000:1 or more, but then the probability of it happening twice in a row, is not merely once in 200, sweety, it becomes 10,000:1, against. Can Natty guess what the probability of it happening three times in a row is? Rabbit is not a Gambler, but from the look if it, …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 02 Dec 05
    • 2:32 am

    First Skscraper in history to fall into it's own footprint in a perfect demolition pattern, without the aid of pre-placed explosives. Chance against it happening conservatively estimated at 100:1 against. Twice in a row 10,000:1 against. Three times in a row, 1,000,000:1 against. Chance that government is telling the truth about 911, is thus, 1,000,000:1 against, at a conservative estimate. Seems pretty clear to Rabbit who are the lunatics. Trusting a Government on faith, (because it is witholding all evidence), and against such odds as those conservative estimates. That is lunatic behaviour anywhere they know how to wipe their own arses. …

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 06 Jan 06
    • 3:59 am

    Good onya Pasword. This Rabbit......from the accurately monikered.......... at least of late, land of OZ, salutes the truth. Password has said it, but like truth in general these days, what is it but a goddamned piece of paper? With Diebold type voting, you don't even get a piece of paper.

    Posted to Democrats: It's the War
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 3:05 am

    Hello Wolf.............. remarkable...... an open minded opinion. Well done, and Rabbit will return to your points. Hello Jay.........................You have not broken your record for 100% ignorance, once agian you demonstrate nothing expcept a generic opinion which has been overtaken by genral knowledge 20 years ago, and by reason at every turn. Liz asks a valid question of Wolf.. Wolf is it possible you are not S Wolf Britain? Jay you have no place on this thread, Rabbit suggests you piss off before someone swats you.

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 3:11 am

    Anarcho-Sozi, the requirement of drug tests before getting a job is now common in Australia, it has been practice for avbout a decade in the mining industry. Of course it has made "Absolutely No Difference" to Job safety, productivity or product safety whatsoever. it is like the testing of peoiple involved in accidents. They have shown here that 60% of people involved in accidents have alcohol or Drugs in their blood, when tested. The statistivcs also show that about 75% of drivers tested randomly have alcohol or drugs in their blood. Conclusion, Alcohol or drugs in the blood decreases the risk …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 3:12 am

    Rabbit? Dear Liz?

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 5:22 am

    To clarify, Liz's question of Wolf, which is valid,

    Hey WOLF - why do you think the CHRISTIAN RIGHT wackos should be making policy, then, and appointing who they like to judge on policy - and not us?!
    Hey Anarcho-Sozi, thankyou for letting us know you have forgiven Rabbit for being so intensely rude to Jay. You did indeed make a point of mentioning it at the time, and Rabbit said you would come to understand. Jay is the lowest common denominator. He is the one who can even be on the wrong side of an argument when Scorpy agrees …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 5:24 am

    It is now days end, so rabbit is enjoying a Jack Daniels and a cone of "Northern Lights", supposedly, looks and smells like it for sure. Boom Shiva...............Anarcho-Sozi

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 5:30 am

    Prohibition never works unless the intention is to make something artificially expensive and an excuse to marginalise the most independant people. The result of Alcohol prohibition was a booster rocket for the Mafia in America. The prohibition of Drugs is having much more far reaching and international consequences.

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 5:50 am

    Jay don't mind your manners, your most supposedly savage attacks are like those of a little frog. You don't bother anyone really and rabbit is tired of seeing you always apologising as if you said anything strong enough for anyone to take offence at. Most people on this site, including rabbit are not normally prone to calling people names, unless those names are appropriate. Where we show disrespect to someone, like all eventually do with you, it is understandable. Occassioanlly rabbit or others apologse for some such overreaction, but you have honestly never, in your best efforts even gotten more than …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 7:15 pm

    Hell people, Rabbit is back. There have been problems with computer death and resurrection, and re-death followed by replacement problems. Rabbit is still working through things putting things in the new one and assembling bits and pieces. The old Wonky Computer had been getting worse and worse until it became serious enough for Rabbit to take action. Resetting and re-starting wasn't enough anymore, so having been a technician for fifteen years Rabbit did the next logical step, and wacked the Wonky computer. To Rabbit's surprise the wonky computer starting getting worse then, so naturally Rabbit wacked it again, and once more …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 7:32 pm

    If you add up all the amount of Heroin, Cannabis, Cocaine and AMPHETAMINES which is busted on a yearly basis, and then divide that by the number of people in the country, you will be astonished at the figure at which you arrive. Now if you consider the following. There is no law enforement which catches even half of what is going. Rabbit has actually been "Very" involved with certain activities over the years, all history now, but it means I know what I'm talking about kids, Law enforcement does not even stop one tenth of drugs from getting through. That …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 7:34 pm

    The problems caused by the abuse of some drugs, namely Cocaine, Heroin and Amphetamines are not as severe as propagnada would make out. The fact is that there are many complicating factors like nutriion and the lifestyle into which many sink when it is all they can do to get enough money to buy these stupidly expensive drugs. The few people who would have abuse problems would not be worse than alcohol and they can be identified and helped properly if they were not also automatically criminals. There is every reason to believe that in the case of Cannabis, the number …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 3:43 am

    Rabbit will wander back up the thread and find the ad sure, but in truth I don't think with other things being as bad as they are, there is much chance for this issue unless the big ones get sorted out first. The big ones being the Masters of War. War Oil Drugs all equals POWER. Not real power, but the fragile self defeating power of brute force. Until the equal and opposite force is met, a mass resistance for example, or more likely the ground, a fall will do it, things are not likely to change on a broad front, …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 3:54 am

    The WOD is fought by Mr Plod The WOT by Gi Joe. The people pay for both these jobs The WOD and WOT seem never to slow .......................................................^^...............................................

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 8:44 pm

    y Cline is living in a dream world. He is either completely devoid of reality, or his is extremely young and believes anything his parents told him. Jay the system is all screwed up, it is corrupt and it is being hijacked by the most horrible criminal thugs we've seen in any of our democratic countries. That you worthless sack of stock unfounded opinions is WHY things are not as they should be. Don't worry about it Jay. You are not erxpected to help with the solution, you are so obviously a part of the problem. You don't need to help …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 1:45 am

    Mescaline is shown to be cool in a study of Native American Indian Peyote users. Cannabis, Mushies and LSD, in fact all the Hallucinogenics are given a clean bill of health as far as harming physically or Psychologically.

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 8:22 pm

    Rabbit has just lost a long and involved post to Lostlib and he is mortified. It was so detailed and covered so much it is a tragedy. Well I can't be bothered writing it all again. LSD "flashbacks" are more urban myth than anything, just like the stupid claims of hallucinations, that is rubbish. Rabbit knows that what these idiots who describe Hallucinations are seeing, is their brain in action for the first time. For unimaginative, limited awareness type people, the experience of having all those synapses switched on at once is what they imagine hallucination is all about no doubt. …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 8:41 pm

    The "Atmotivational Syndrome" is rubbish thinks Rabbit too. Lazy is not an illness, it is LAZY. The problem comes when people start using anything to excess, such that it crowds out other things in their lives. It comes to dominate and it calls the shots on everything finally, from you job, to family relationships and sometimes health. These effects are not confined to any drug, they can as easily be religion, politics business and even a sport. These things are all of benfit in their own contexts, and a happy healthy life can be enjoyed and partake of any or all …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 6:53 pm

    JC who knows even less about this subject than most other things, is no more than an annoyance on this issue. Prospero don't bother debating with JC he is just a house troll. Amphetamines lab busts are NO indication of how many are operating fool. They just get better, they learn with time how to avoid busts. The main ones are "protected" anyway. Rabbit knows a lot about this subject from first hand knowledge, so don't start your crap here. Actually Amphetamines are used plenty in the military and have been since WWII. The third reich marched on Amphetamines especially and …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 10:48 pm

    Who protects the innocfrom Nazis like you Jay decline? Your views are behind the illegal invasion and massive acts of fraud used to achieve it of a sovereign nation, it is your views which are the excuse used to destroy lives and damgae good people, who never did or would have hurt you or anybody. You are the dumbest piece of SH*T I have ever come across. You really are the most ignorant turd worshipper Rabbit could concieve of who could exist independantly of it's own arsehole.

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 10:52 pm

    Those lives Rabbit refers to, apart from the innocent civilians being murdered by Jay's ideas, are those people who did nothing more than choose to smoke some weed rather than another weed, or who prefer to party on less destructive and dangerous drugs than alcohol and whatever else sickos like you think should be legal. I've said it before JC you are the lowest common denominator. You just love to wallow in shame or you would not subject your pitiful few ideas to the ridicule they automatically attract from informed and rational people.

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 10:54 pm

    FROM Madsen. Posted to annoy the trolls.

    Bush trip to Latin America an unmitigated disaster. Although the corpo-media is painting George W. Bush's trip to an Americas Summit in Mar del Plata, Argentina and his visits to Brazil and Panama as a "nothing lost, nothing gained" venture, in reality, it was a total disaster. Bush was clearly afraid to personally confront Latin America's most popular leader, Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez Frias. Instead, Bush waited until he arrived in Brazil to accuse Chavez of not providing for his people. Bush and his support team carefully choreographed Bush's movements at the summit to …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 4:26 am

    That is an illusion, Prospero. Rabbit knows Jay and he is an established house troll, so with respect Rabbit will wack him as he sees fit. He is both a nazi and a fool. He is worse for the fact he isn't without brains, because much of his ignorance is due to intellectual laziness. You think you are having a debate with him, but as the logic and reason become at issue, you will see, he lacks both. Rabbit always extends a tolerant paw of respect, but once someone sinks so low as to be subject to Rabbit's scorn, it is …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 11:24 pm

    Jay Rabbit is as always willing to give anything anyone is entitled to. It is in this spirit that Rabbit admits your attitudes towards this issue are relatively reasonable for your type. Quite surprising actually. That is not to say you have an enlightened or even intelligent response to the issue , just that contrary to your habit, you are not actually the lowest common denominator. Not that there is one yet, but the position taken by such is not evident in your postings. Having said that Rabbit feels obliged to point out that you earn the scorn of Rabbit and …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 4:51 am

    Yeh for the Kid is in town. ..........................^^...................................... That Valley is a peaceful one with no bullshit allowed bets the Rabbit. As always you fine cousins of Rabbit are his immediate concern and he is sorry that so much harsh words are poured upon your poor suffering country, by himself and others. You know we do it for love of the same things that even these morons think they hold dear.

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 8:38 pm

    Gather round folks Rabbit has a re-post and a link. This is too good not to see live. JAY DeCLINE says:

    Seriously, beowulf, if there is a question that I havent addressed, please restate it. I think it is obvious to all that I dont shirk from a difficult question even, or especially, if I have a response that will inevitably be unpopular. Fear is not in my vocabulary.
    ............................................................ ...............^^........................................... ......Poor Rabbit. The Rabbit has just gotten up off the floor. His sides and tummy hurts. . .......................... This is the most PERFECT Self Irony ever. Rabbit must confess, …

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 10:16 pm

    Lume that is a good link. Rabbit likes it and has added it to his favorites. Rabbit is quite familiar with Christiania, in Copenhagen. There is where he bought his first Hashish when first Rabbit arrived in Danmark, and knew nobody. A virtual free hippy state, within the city and it is pretty much an institution.

    Posted to Liberalisms Brain on Drugs
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 7:28 pm

    Rabbit feels an assumption is passing unnoticed, and so jumps down the line to post.

    Conservatives love to justify the American occupation of the Middle East with fervent appeals to the modernizing influence of Western civilization, as if the slaughter of thousands of socially provincial Iraquis is an acceptable exchange for the abolition of the burkha
    Of course others had said something similar and Rabbit knows that it is not meant to carry the assumption, but .................remind ourselves that the Burkha was not worn in Iraq, prior to the invasion. Iraq was the most secular country in the Middle East and …

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 7:34 pm

    Jay Cline says

    Even today, countries like France, in a secularist frenzy, forbids the public wearing of religious icons, no matter how small.
    Rubbish Jay. France banned the wearing of religious icons in Schools, and it was done as a reaction to the Anti-Muslim senmtiment being stirred up by America on behalf of Israel. It was done as an attempt at diffusing a situation which for them is potentially serious. They have as a consequence of National tolerance, a very much larger Muslim religious community and the potential for things to get serious, based on small misunderstandings. What they are …

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 7:36 pm

    America in a religious frenzy is introducing Creationism into a scientific curricular. Have you any clue how bizzare that seems? That is coming from a Rabbit who has reservations about the evolution of Man from Apes too.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 7:50 pm

    Major Major You have laboured hard in the field of ignorance, Rabbit is sad to see you had to put up with the two biggest Idiots on this site, without support. Scorpy and Jay are as ignorant as rocks and any time you feel like ignoring them it is no less than they do themselves to many issues and the people who raise them. Jay can go on for pages just running around in smaller and smaller semantic circles auntil he goes POP and dissapears up his own hole. Scorpy is as arrogant as a pile of Elephant Dung in the …

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 11:47 pm

    Quite so on that it is an equivelant correction to one Rabbit made earlier and deserves recognition. Rabbit said no more for the sake of brevity. The theory of Evolution of the Species by Natural Selection definately doesn't posit that Humans necessarily descended directly or at all from apes. Rabbit's problem when he studied biology was that the theory of evolution of man via apes is taught as a given example, when it actually doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Not that this in itself affects the theory of Natural selection, which Rabbit would posit deserves to be called the Fact of …

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 11:50 pm

    Sorry, silly Rabbit meant first paragraph to Neruda, obviously.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 11:56 pm

    JAY

    I stand corrected. Yet the argument remains intact.
    You have long since ceased to stand, but you have been corrected, overall. Whatever the argument with you actually is, Rabbit seriously doubts it to be intact from your side. Your perspective may be so slanted, that you fail to notice, but the argument, whatever it is with you, is intact from the point of view of anybody but you.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 12:02 am

    The theory of evolution of Man from apes, is thus accurate in that it is a theory only, and not a very good one. Better?

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 12:04 am

    The Creation story is by contrast, a Fairy Story, or Myth. If it deserves to be taught anywhere it is in context in a sociology class.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 4:42 am

    Sky God says faith is more important than reason. Truth is what the Sky God says it is. The Sky God has spokesmen. GWB is one of the Sky God's spokesmen.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 11:09 pm

    Democracy is the worst form of governance, except for all that we have tried so far.
    Jay don't you have any other quotes from Churchill? We've had this one a few times before, and it isn't even a particularly profound one, if truth be told. Please not Rudyard Kipling either. The poem IF is almost certainly a favorite of yours, despite the fact you certainly cannot measure up to much by it's fine yet simple standard. The thing is Jay, one has to have LIVED, and have had a life, rich and varied, adventures and so much more, to comprehend Kipling's, …

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 11:21 pm

    Jay despite the fact that you have been a major pain in the butt, you are a pompous little empty headed corker, you have nothing to apologise to anyone here for. We are not affected or particularly interested in you, and heaven alone knows why David is, he is curious that is all, but you have never actually made an insulting attempt at wit which has amounted to anything and your "Imagined" ideas, are such old hat and laughable to intelligent and informed people such as us, that we don't even take you seriously. we can see what you are. You …

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 11:28 pm

    jsquire Your contribution is very interesting and Rabbit knows the smart ones on this site will get it, thank you. That is an interesting fact and relevant. Rabbit will enjoy discussing it with others but for now will use the comparison to point out that this tiny little piece of anecdotal information is worth everything Jay has said since he came inot our lives. Not the combined total of all that JAY has said could be of as much interest and importance, modest though it is, of Jsquire's poignant remark.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 4:41 am

    Sharing This funny thing with you.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 7:29 pm

    Yes and you know what Wolf, Rabbit is sure that animals screw for pleasure too. Our Dwarf Rabbit (one third the cat's size) wouldn't mind getting a leg over the cat if she'd be in it, but since she has killed hundreds of full grown Rabbits in her days on the farm, she just barely tolerates his presence as it is. Dogs often hump each other as a friendly gesture and so do a lot of other animals. Not that this Rabbit is necessarily saying this is all a good idea, but there is no reason to see sex as inately …

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 4:27 am

    Dolphins engage in gang rape, the bad things. Rabbit is a kind of Dr Doolittle Curious Dave. Rabbit's Wonky computer is doing a crash and burn and it will be shut down pending a replacement. Back soon.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 03 Nov 05
    • 10:28 pm

    If Iraq is any example, the Dolphins whom I have it on good authority are secular, will be wearing Burkhas After they have been Liberated, and the sharks given power over them.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 03 Nov 05
    • 10:35 pm

    This is said just in case anybody actually believes women had to wear Burkhas or comform to any part of Sharia Law before they were Liberated as it is euphemistically called. Now back on topic, if anybody is still about. Libby is in the news and Libby is another pervert from the look of it. Beastmen.................LaRouche calls them Beastmen............and they are.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 4:58 am

    Heh Veronica Rabbit is delighted to make your aquaintance..................... Sidles up to the lady looking up with his inscrutable Rabbit eyes.......................................................^^............................................................ Please tell more, for Rabbit is interested in excatly what you mean, he is not going to hop off and buy a book, he is a poor rabbit, on that little info. Dost thou mean the repugs have a need to be dominated? Surely you do not mean most strippers and prostitutes are relating to most men like this?

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 4:44 am

    Rabbit has lived among the heathen, the pirates, the whores and the smugglers. He has heard this pattern if not about American Repugs, then about their nearest cousins among OZ and Europe. The Conservatives, whatever they want to call themselves. So you are not surprising him about these people. Rabbit is quite democratic about who he humps, so long as She is cool about it. Never could seriously dominate a woman physically they are too nice on average, but being dominated by a woman is not on the cards. She can ride on top for all she wants but Rabbit has …

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 11 Nov 05
    • 4:51 am

    She don't need us Dave. Rabbit admits the transparency that time......................................................................................^^............................................................................

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 11 Nov 05
    • 11:53 pm

    Dave with 14 years as a sex worker, the Babe knows as much as she needs to to know, she doesn't need us.

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 13 Nov 05
    • 9:51 pm

    Bad Rabbit playtime, while nobody is about, Rabbit comes out and pokes electrons about. Bubblegum

    Posted to Babes in BushWorld
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 5:10 am

    Thank God some sane people have entered the thread, to see both JC and Scorpy at one on the first page was almost more than Rabbit could imagine. Then WTH......but not doing his profile any damage for a change. Now Rabbit can see the enlightened ones are lining up. Could you imagine being left alone with JC and Scorpy in a room? Luminous Beauty Rabbit has been "On the road " a while back and that was how he met his wife of Twenty years. She was a Danish backbacker and the Dirty Old Rabbit Swagman, joined up with her. I …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 5:27 am

    Maybe Shangri La is not the right word. Lets just say Rabbit liked his Fireworks Company a lot. So did lots of other people from twenty different towns and thirty shows a year all over Western Australia. All gone, Rabbit never hurt anyone, has always been a helpful and good community Rabbit, but his community let the bad men come and steal his family's life, and throw them into the streets of uncertainty, pain and anguish. Our home in the middle of the forrest on a nice little river, was meant to be our end of the road. Now someone else …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 9:19 pm

    Scorpy don't you ever refer to this site as OUR site again.....This site is mostly populated by Liberally minded, thoughtful and enlightened people. As a part of the substantial majority, Rabbit claims this site, on behalf of the aforementioned group. It is not your site or Jay's. In fact you are both "OURS" in the sense that you are our Trolls. Major major, is part of the majority. His post was interesting and has given Rabbit and maybe others cause to think. Nothing you or Jay ever posted (Scorp sometimes has been OK actually), amounted to anything. The site belongs to …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 9:34 pm

    SHUT UP! she explained.
    Scorpy..................Scorpy......................Scorpy..............................^^...................... Scorpy you are WRONG about the Polling and the Elections. Both elections have been shown to be frauds. 2004 election has just been in the news, the GAO has found a Shitload of anomalies and examples of fraud. Whistling in the dark Scorpy that's you. You are so wrong, it isn't even dark, you just have your eyes shut tight. There is of course the small matter of tens of thousands of Dienfranchised voters at the times, BOTH times as well which doesn't even come into the voting machine irregularities. You need to stop pretending those …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 9:39 pm

    Here have a look. Since Scorpy does not believe in sourcing, Rabbit shall reprint a bit. blockquote>As if the indictment of Lewis Scooter Libby wasnt enough to give the White House some heavy concerns, a report from the Government Accounting Office takes a big bite out of the Bush cliques pretense of legitimacy. This powerful and probing report takes a hard look at the election of 2004 and supports the contention that the election was stolen. The report has received almost no coverage in the national media. The GAO is the governments lead investigative agency, and is known for rock-solid …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 9:47 pm

    Some people have specific tendencies, and if there is one thing which is true of the Scorp, it is that he has a talent for self irony which is astonishing. For this reason Rabbit first thought Scorpy might have been Dubya himself, which seemed far fetched, but Rabbit settled for him being Rove. He has used some Bushisms, which were original, I'm sure. He once said,

    President Bush has said that the only way to stand up to and combat fundamentalism, is to stand up and combat fundamentalism The following just shows he hasn't lost the touch in the self irony …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 9:51 pm

    Silly old Rabbit paws and electrons not communicating so well with the new computer, but people can unravel it.

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 1:36 am

    Whattheheck................Rabbit has found a thing....a thing you just might find interesting. Rabbit is familiar with the author, and his views, he is one of those who often makes the Rabbit go.........Hmm. That is not to say that I agree with his views on all things, but the facts presented are checkable and much of it is well known anyway, just seen in a new light. There is something about the Communists which might ring a bell with you, because you have referred to Communist influence of Neo-cons which is in context. Assuming WTH does find the article at least interesting, take …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 9:02 pm

    No JC you and Scorpy have the right to speak, no sunshine you are encouraged to do so. The fact that you never say anything but garbage is your problem not ours, and that you enjoy nothing but contempt for your views and self is due less to their generally half assed and lame nature than to the dishonest and incompetent way in which you express them. It has also to do with the fact that you pick out whatever small semantic pizzle you think you see and start filling up a lot of space with stupid games of dissemble and …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 9:19 pm

    Scorpy Rabbit never said anybody should have voted for Kerry, though he was certainly a better choice than Bush, hell the only worse choice than Bush would have been Cheney, no Rabbit doesn't know what difference it would have made, that is the point. As for France, the Froggies are well known to Rabbit and he neither appreciates their habit of blowing up peaceful boats and contaminating Island chains with radioactive fallout, their manners or their driving habits. Outside of those six black and white walls of your world Scorpy, there are many nuanced views, and Rabbit supports France in attacks …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 9:43 pm

    Rabbit has his little bundle of catch up postings. Lumeinous Beauty says

    Its hard to believe basically smart and apparently moderately successful people could survive without learning better thinking skills in some area of knowledge.
    That is something Rabbit thinks about often, but he is brought to earth very quickly each time, realising his own brother is so much like a slightly more intelligent George Bush, and yet has amassed tens of millions of dollars without ever learning to do more than con people. He is intelligent, even brilliant in some areas. He is a brilliantly creative mind but it …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 9:49 pm

    The language of hate has recieved an injection of steroids under Bush's reign in other words. It is telling that the new language which is specifically being called into being through attempts to describe Bush, is being used by his supporters in completely vain attacks on us, its originators. Witness the number of times, fascism and unreason, avoidance and lies are ascribed to us by them. What we call their self irony, is possibly a significant indication of which of the taunts of the left are finding a mark on these denizens of the dark.

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 6:02 am

    Judy Andreas is another one of Rabbit's favorite women.

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 11:04 pm

    Rabbit burrows under the bull and finds.............. Bad Borrowing Bush

    According to the Treasury Department, from 1776-2000, the first 224 years of U.S. history, 42 U.S. presidents borrowed a combined $1.01 trillion from foreign governments and financial institutions, but in the past four years alone, the Bush administration borrowed $1.05 trillion.

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 9:31 pm

    No one wants Scoops apologies, your hysterical ranting and bland bombast has long since become accepted currency on this site, we are happy for you Scorpy. But the comparison of Democrap "crimes" terrible though it is, with the Repuglican "crimes" in the electoral process does not yield a favorable result for Repugs, who have actually taken the country into the previously unknown realm of an Oligarchy. Or at least whatever it is called when a Government is empowered via a corrupt legal process after a fraudulent election, where even the fraud failed to give a majority. We need not go back …

    Posted to How the Right Has Won
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 2:20 am

    Rabbit knows the Chinese as indicated here, and finds them as a nation far less threatening than America, and the case rests on history. The rest of the world, starting with Iraq, then Venezuala, Iran and others too are dumping their US resrves and converting to Euros, why shouldn't the Chinese? Bill Gates has dumped his 46.6 Billions dollars US and put the lot in Euros. Liz the world and especially China doesn't owe the USA the maintainance of it's economy, at the expense of either World Peace, or it's own economy. Everyone one who can will abandon the sinking dollar. …

    Posted to See No Evil
    • 03 Nov 05
    • 5:14 am

    Rabbit struggles, with the wonky computer,..................no more can work...............Holds bits and stabs the keyboard with teeth but no..................Electrons running everywhere......stop it .come back....the computer metamorhposis happens and this is number five try in between boots and swaps etc. Jay says Its like a train wreck that is about to happen. This one is anyway. It is interesting to Rabbit that both JC to have Chinese wives.................this is an interesting development, is it not punters?

    Posted to See No Evil
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 1:38 am

    There was no gunfire, full stop. The people who claimed otherwsie, have had the sack for making such incendiary and false statements. For the record.

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 4:48 am

    Jay is the original source of knowledge. He has a Blog, the only link he has ever provided in all his many posts, not once but at least twice now. Rabbit has no interest to see it and have all his illussions dashed, all mysteries solved as it is sure to have the answers to everything. Rabbit has it on good authority that it is part of a ring of circle jerking backslappers.

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 4:52 am

    Jay how can anyone be so stupid and still stand up? You can stand up can't you? Neither the first nor the second quote you gave, the wise one or the one I said, is substantial enough to make any sort of factual comparison. Get a proper reference and thenm challenge my words, or I might need to do the same. You are the biggest waste of time. It is pathetic to imagine that you actually think you are taking part in a discussion with people like Rabbit and others here. It is downright ridicaulous for you to imagine you have …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 5:02 am

    Dead set, Jay, you are a complete clown, you make no sense to anyone and if you think anyone takes you for anything but a complete moron, you are mistaken. Maybe Natty likes you, but she is a Shill, and she has probably bugged out now her DU cause is gone. Dude no amount of slogans and silly nitpicking, or HTML stunts are going to make you seem smarter than you are. If you were among the right sort of crowd, you might appear to be knowledgeable, but here you are demonstrably the lowwest common denominator. Even Scorpy can tell the …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 3:48 am

    Rabbit is trying to post a reply to you stupid Jay, but is having computer problems. You have not yet given any refences which is the point of the quote you posted of mine. You are such a clown you keep on posting things people say and show you have not understood a word of what you have gone and cut and patsed. How about you read and comprehend first. As soon as I can get the computer fixed, I'll do this more thoroughly. For now a brief bit. Here is the source for the following. Lt. Col. Pete Schneider …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 3:49 am

    The next source Five weeks after Hurricane Katrina laid waste to New Orleans, some local, state and federal officials have come to believe that exaggerations of mayhem by officials and rumors repeated uncritically in the news media helped slow the response to the disaster and tarnish the image of many of its victims. Claims of widespread looting, gunfire directed at helicopters and rescuers, homicides, and rapes, including those of "babies" at the Louisiana Superdome, frequently turned out to be overblown, if not completely untrue, officials now say. The sensational accounts delayed rescue and evacuation efforts already hampered by poor planning …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 3:52 am

    Here is the source for the First one again. And here is a partial list of Katrina mistakes

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 03 Nov 05
    • 5:29 am

    Now Jay, Rabbit has identified the following as that to which you are possiblt referring? Is this all?

    Or consider the reports of thugs shooting on first aid helicopters: fact is, there are no first hand witnesses who claim they saw anyone shoot at the helicopters, as if hoping to bring them down or harm relief workers. Rather, those who were actually there, and saw the gunfire in question, report that it was intended to get the attention of the helicopters, which seemed to be repeatedly passing people by, looking at the catastrophic conditions, but refusing to land and save people …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 11:04 pm

    Another Jay runs away day?

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 9:04 pm

    Idiot Rabbit said he doesn't believe there was anybody shooting at the choppers or who could even have been considered to be doing so. Wise gives his opinion, based on second hand knowledge. The opinions are indeed mutually exclusive, one or other of them ONLY will be supported by the facts. Well since Rabbit has posted at least some credible accounts which support his position, it would seem that he is right and JC's understanding of what Wise was saying. Wise did not say he heard or saw gunfire, he specifically states it is second hand and he gives NOTHING which …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 2:31 am

    Upon re-reading it occurs to Rabbit why Jay cannot understand, so in the interests of better communication he re-posts the above in terms more likely to be familiar to JC.

    Wise neither saw nor heard gunshots. Wise words. Rabbit's opinion that there were no shooting at Helicopters, appears justified. Rabbit right. Jay originally said "so there was someone shooting at least," or some such words. Jay wrong.
    Now whether or not there was someone shooting at rescuers, and there wasn't it would seem, so what? What is the point which you would have liked to have emphasised with this supposed fact …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 2:48 am

    It is true one can build an airplane with three lego blocks JC, but a few hundred or even thousands of lego blocks, as some might own, can build a much more convincing airplane. It is sort of like Jay has got a three block airplane, and Rabbit has built one from a couple of thousand blocks....................different blocks, many more possibilities.........................................................^^............................. As an oldest brother he had this experience with his younger brothers sometimes, when the two played with legos, and since there were only two and eight years respectively between us, and a world of natural engineering ability it later …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 11:38 pm

    You are just the devious mastermind eh JC? The regular gold finger, or is that brown finger? Your logic is unnassailable oh great sage. Rabbit is inspired by the towering example of reason and perspicacity which is Jay. .......................................Rabbit looking up at Jay, again asks............. is it a God?

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 06 Nov 05
    • 11:44 pm

    Wise is a journalist and reported what he heard, the fact that JC once again tries to read more into such a small thing is the only thing which you have proved, numb nuts. Rabbit is informed and reported whhat he had read. Wise has said nothing which discredits him in this instance, Rabbit has shown his sources for what he said, and Jay, no matter how he spins it, is standing there with nothing. Nothing gained, and nothing lost, in the sense he had nothing to lose anyway. If JC wants to discredit Wise or anybody for that matter he …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 1:31 am

    Down Down deeper and down..................JC the CJ

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 8:48 pm

    Stop your pointless troll rant JC. The things you just said about France was nothing but a little bag of vituperative snarkiness. They are your as usual sack of pissant infounded opinion and are thus not an issue anywhere except in your head. the Froggies are not Racist you stupid American. You come from a self proclaimed Master Race, and call others Racist? Especially a country which has always been egalitarian compared to even your dreams of America. The case has already been made that the USA is not at all far behind France in any of the factors which led …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 8:49 pm

    Gather round folks Rabbit has a re-post and a link. This is too good not to see live. JAY DeCLINE says:

    Seriously, beowulf, if there is a question that I havent addressed, please restate it. I think it is obvious to all that I dont shirk from a difficult question even, or especially, if I have a response that will inevitably be unpopular. Fear is not in my vocabulary.
    ............................................................ ...............^^........................................... ......Poor Rabbit. The Rabbit has just gotten up off the floor. His sides and tummy hurts. . .......................... This is the most PERFECT Self Irony ever. Rabbit must confess, …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 4:51 am

    The French story some more for JC, who was fretting about it.

    'Muslim' Riots Only Hit Nations Opposed To Iraq War? By Wayne Madsen 11-10-5 France imposed a state of emergency as rioting continued for a 13th straight night and spread to more towns, including Calais, the French end of the "Chunnel" rail link to England; St. Raphael; Amiens; Grasses; Bassens; Savigny-sur-Orge, and Arras. Other cases of arson were reported throughout Belgium -- in Ghent, Antwerp, Lokeren -- and in Germany, where Cologne was hit for the first time with car arson. WMR has emphasized that the arson attacks are well …

    Posted to The Subject Supposed to Loot and Rape
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 5:01 am

    Naughty Rabbit <meta name="description" content=" Rabbit is playing with electrons........get away from the buttons.........naughty Rabbit" /> <style type="text/css"> #comments .author2637 { background: #efd5cb url(/images/about/author-bk.gif) no-repeat top left; border: 1px #CCC solid; padding: 33px 15px 5px 15px; margin: 0 0 10px 0; } #comments .author2637 h6 { margin: 0; border: 0; } { background: #f3c; }

    Posted to Katrina, Cosby and Class Divisions
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 7:05 pm

    Fine WTH, but the whole point of this fact is that Bush claimed he saw the first plane strike, then he claimed to see the second strike. Also when he is told by an aide, of the attack, sitting in front of a classromm, on video, the truth is quite apparent. The aide leans in, whispers in Bush's ear and imediately moves away. Supposedlt that ws the first Bush knew about it, and yet the aide didn't even wait for a reply. Others with Rational minds and open eys, realsie this means Bush was not being informed of an unexpected event, …

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 10:39 pm

    Some interesting questions, just a blogger, but valid questions.

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 11:49 pm

    WTH as usual jumping beofre looking. So full of preconceptions he is incapable of ratuional discussion.

    You are basing your conclusion that Bush had advanced knowledge on the above! Oh, boy!
    Rabbit really feels sorry for you sometimes WTH. You are such a dummy and yet you try so hard. Rabbit is not basing aby opinion on this one fact. Rabbit has always been prepared to ascribe the same factors you do to Bush's reaction and words, as a matter of fact. Trouble is my poor information starved friend, it is NOT the only evidence of Bush's pre-knowledge. Now shall …

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 12:57 am

    Too bad about your perception of Rabbit as smug, for he is. This is Finally someone who get's a criticism of Rabbit right..............................SMUG.... Yes Rabbit is somewhat Smug in his knowledge but if you will notice that many other people on this site are in agreement with Rabbit about the things he is "Smug" about, this might not seem to be such an insult. If facing an opponent who has demostrated he has but a tenth of the information as you, and if you are completely confidant of your own case, then I'm sorry WTH it is hard noy to feel …

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 1:05 am

    He claimed he saw the first hit. He was given a one way communique about the attcks. he was not placed under any special security precautions. 1................2..............3 Three bits of evidence he knew beforehand. Ready for three more WTH? These are actually only circumstantial, there is much better

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 1:00 am

    Rabbit has avoided nothing WTH. You admitted thought I that you didn't see the first Plane crash before the second. The point here is simply that Bush said he saw the first plane going into the WTC, which neither he, nor you could at that time have seen. You are the one being stubborn. You have altered nothing about what has been written. Why do you go on about the first hole, we are talking about the plane actually crashing. I can tell you you could not have seen the first plane going in, because nobody saw this on TV until …

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 10:27 pm

    Wrong WTH. You have systematically failed at every turn to understand.

    QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack? BUSH: Well... (APPLAUSE) Thank you, Jordan (ph). Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting …

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 10:31 pm

    It is one of a number of facts which point to foreknowledge and in chorus especially, it is significant, stubborn fool. The proof is here that I was right, and he said he saw something he could not have. MY fact being correct allows me to use it towards an opinion which might stand up under scrutiny. Instead of half imagined ideas and crazy theories such as you and others like you seem prepared to believe in Despite evidence. you say you know what happened when you don't, you only think you know. If you knew enough to know what you …

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 03 Nov 05
    • 11:01 pm

    The deal which you are still ignoring is that it is consistent with Lies and with foreknowledge. More important is the following

    my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, A second plane has hit the tower. Americas under attack.
    And then as can be seen in the video, the chief walked away without waiting for a reply even. IT was obvious to any who watced and thought about it, that Bush was just given information which he was expecting. DING DONG...................... DING DONG............... Rabbit is not "Trying" to be right here, WTH, it is that sort …

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 03 Nov 05
    • 11:06 pm

    Does WTH know anything about "The Project for a New American Century"? PNAC? Does WTH know about the NORAD and CIA training exercises which contributed enormously to the success of 911 for the "Terrorists"? These are two more things which make a very compelling case for administration officials involvement, they are far more substantial that the Bush words and reactions mentioned above.

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 7:49 pm

    WTH Rabbit is actually full of hope. Someone who says he will not change his mind about anything, is telling an open minded and rational Rabbit, HE is hopeless? Why couldn't you answer the two simple questions? If you are not on this site to dicuss things logically and with the desire to learn if anything should come up, then why are you on this site at all? Do you seriously think that anyone on this site, stands to gain from your opinions when you have largely rendered them useless with a stubborn refusal to allow them to be challenged or …

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 5:06 am

    So unstaisfying trying to communicate with morons. Every time you think you have them on reasonable ground they balk at having to admit mistakes. Why is it hardest for people who make the most mistakes to admit even one? Or is the rationale the reverse? Those who find mistakes hardest to admit are the ones most likely to keep making them. That makes sense I guess. ........................................^^..................................................

    Posted to Partisan War Syndrome
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 9:20 pm

    What is the redundancy Chopper? You are a bigot as it it has been noted before. Homosexuals do not have to be perverts. Bush and the Skull and bones NWO types etc are very much into PERVERSION. That doesn't so much make them homosexuals as in their case perverts. Insults are the sort of mindless name calling and false accusations, of others which is the stock in trade of self confessed Conservative extremists like yourself. It is you and Scorpy who are conforming to a recognised mental disorder. HIV Rabbit thinks he read it called. Rabbit posted a link somewhere. Time …

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 9:27 pm

    You leftists are all about peace & love until someone disagrees with you. Then the gloves come off.
    says the Chopper. Like all self claimed Rightist Morons you argue with your preconceptions. We leftists, as "You" choose to label US are as inclined to defend oursleves and destroy pests if the need arises as any. As a rule we do it in a lot more intelligent and efficient fashion due to having open minds hence adaptability and imagination. You should be glad we prefer to settle disputes with words instead of your first and prefferred method. Obviously you think you are …

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 11:31 pm

    OH Rabbit is sooo devastated...................Scorpy has cut the Rabbit to the marrow...............................aaaarrghh.............Poor Rabbit he is so hurt, Scorpy is so clever and so mean...........^^........... Scorpy don't ever get to saying nice things about me will you............That is honestly what would worry me. Find any sources for anything yet Scorpy?

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 11:35 pm

    You ever ride a PONY Scorpy? Ever ride a Rabbit? Your metaphors are as always wacky. For a one trick Rabbit, I have altered the look of this site for all time, adding HTML as a response to another idiot, and that was "learnt" in the time shown by the postings, about ten minutes. So that is two tyrick anyway. Scorpy who hasn't even picked up on the HTML, is still clapping with one hand. Scorpy has it ever occurred to you to get the barrel of that thing straightened? It seems curled over so that everyu shot comes straight at …

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 11:37 pm

    Wack...............Wack..............^^........................ Thankyou stick...................... Rabbit looks appreciatively at his own stick and is glad he selected well. Wack..................................................wack

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 2:26 am

    Rabbit has a list of routines.......................One to ...................well infinity I guess.

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 7:12 pm

    Rabbit was once a farmer and hunter. Bet he's shot more Bunnies than Scorpy. All head shots too, and I never shot one standing.....................^^........................ Rabbit nature has since taught me the value and inate respect for life which even ten years of Budhism never quite achieved. Since explo*ives, their manufacture and use is actually a Rabbit hobby and once his job, he has popped a few Rabbit warrens with Powergel too. Powergel, or even better, PETN is good for clearing a swimming hole of Crocs too. Rabbit is a Kimberley soul and knows a bit about Crocs and doesn't really like …

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 10:09 pm

    Rabbit has no opinions about the following, sorry since they are things of import to Chopper it would seem. The only thing it shows is that you seem to like conspiracy theories. So tell me, who really did kill Nicole Simpson? And who really was the man known as Rudolph Hess who was kept in Spandau prison after WWII? And how many crashed alien spaceships does the US government have at area 51? It seems that Chopper is one of those crazy people who believe in "Conspiracy Theorists" who collect such silly ideas. Rabbit only ever heard about such issues from …

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 03 Nov 05
    • 7:43 pm

    Anarcho-Sozi Just catching up with Gwynne Dyer's articles. Rabbit checks in on him from time to time, finding his careful and measured words perspectivising. One here about the German Election which I'd like your comment on. Shroeder's Long Game Don't worry if Rabbit finds you on another thread first and you see this later.

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 10:05 pm

    GO here That is a great site, lots of quotes from experts and exactly the sort of Pyrotechnics Rabbit was talking about. Say one idiotic thing Natty and Rabbit will mention the name of the company........you know who.......and post lots of quotes from the site. For now you can just hope that others don't notice this link and push it. Keep on with those tissues and towels, you'll cover that elephant some way.

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 10:09 pm

    On second thoughts, scrap that, Natty will only feel that is a challenge and will no doubt comply. So here we go This article provides important information for WTC demolition researchers, in particular because of the information about Controlled Demolition Inc., which (a) was apparently keen to have the debris removed and disposed of as soon as possible and (b) was able to come up with a detailed plan for doing so within eleven days of the collapse of the Twin Towers, suggesting that Controlled Demolition Inc. had detailed knowledge of the Twin Towers and the entire WTC complex prior …

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 10 Nov 05
    • 4:11 am

    Thanks Anarcho-Sozi Yeh it's old in a week in this breakneck speed world isn't it? Oz is getting the final touches on a fascist system of Workplace reform. It is sundown on the unions basically. Go to Democrats:It the War thread, for a funny Rabbit story. A true one he posted a moment ago. Not to mention the JC doing performing like a champion.. Have a few Polish friends over the years, never got there and I'm just reading a bit about the history between Poland and Germany leading up to and during the WAR and aftermath. Pretty depressing stuff over …

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 12 Nov 05
    • 1:11 am

    Rabbit re-posting this, from another thread. It is relevant to the comparison of Bush atrocities, to Hitler atrocities. How will it read in the history books? This Article is a must read

    Its clear that the military never needed to use napalm in Iraq. Their conventional weaponry and laser-guided technology were already enough to run roughshod over the Iraqi army and seize Baghdad almost unobstructed. Napalm was introduced simply to terrorize the Iraqi people; to pacify through intimidation. Cheney, Rumsfeld and Negroponte are old-hands at terrorism, dating back to their counterinsurgency projects in Nicaragua and El Salvador under the Reagan …

    Posted to A Fundamental History Lesson
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 12:21 am

    ULTRA RABBIT

    Hee Hee.......................^^........................The naughty Rabbit is running around................. playing with the electrons.

    Get away from those Buttons, naughty rabbit

    Rabbit.........^^..........

    Posted to Muzzled Voices
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 1:20 am

    .................................^^.................................

    Posted to Muzzled Voices
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 1:28 am

    bugger

    Posted to Muzzled Voices
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 5:26 am

    Naughty Rabbit playing here, trys to teach electrons new tricks, in a quiet corner. If anybody is concerned you have but to tell the Rabbit and he will stop in a blink. Maybe

    Wabbit tries to make the thick one in the box, and the slanty one too
    Did it work?

    Posted to Muzzled Voices
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 5:27 am

    Yes...........happy Rabbit has a new trick.................^^....................

    Posted to Muzzled Voices
    • 30 Oct 05
    • 8:09 pm

    Natalie the Ex German defense minister, believes they were4 brought down by explosives and a whole lot more to. You are being WAY to presumptive about what we can and cannot produce regarding witnesses, and opinions. Your presumption that we cannot is wrong, Rabbit is assembling another knock down case for you along these very lines, have no fear. In the meantime there are a couple of far more important matters. The first is that, whether or not any specific type of person said that explosives is the only answer, that doesn't change all the EVIDENCE which you are ignoring for …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 1:49 am

    Manning is not the issue here either Nat, he was presented as an Engineer who represents many others, and he doesn't accept the government story, draws serious flaws to attention and the fact is that the insulation was in place, that was another red-herring you liars tried on while the plans were still missing to prove otherwsie. All debiunked now.. Now how about facts Natalie, which matter. Do you always try to understand what is going on in a matter by examining the direction birds fly and how the leaves fall? Why cannot we see exactly what it is you take …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 3:24 am

    Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Theory' is a Conspiracy Fact By Randy Lavello By now the misinformation and ignored findings surrounding the September 11, 2001 attacks have evaporated the official version into the land of fiction. Didnt it seem strange that we learned everything of the government version by the next day? Much has been learned about the attacks, yet the official version has never changed; it seems as though our government thinks the point moot since it used this excuse to pass unconstitutional laws and wage wars resulting in oil profits. The time has come to admit …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 3:26 am

    Read the article from above posting. Not you Nat you have other things to worry about.

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 3:31 am

    THE MYSTERY OF THE WTC COLLAPSE The more one reads about the World Trade Center collapse, the more skeptical they should become of the official account. Given the lack of any remaining "hard" evidence, the following presentation is speculation, but well worth reading and thinking about. WHY? Because the investigators at the WTC site were hampered to the maximum, documentation efforts were equally hampered; and the debris was too quickly and profitably - disposed of; overseas. Just for starters, 9-11 represented the first collapse of ANY steel-framed building, allegedly from fire. BUT there were three such occurrences; not …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 3:41 am

    From the Conspiracy Channel http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=75 911: Govt-Media Suspends Laws of Physics by J. McMICHAEL ".......................................But enough of myself. Let us move on to the Science and Technology of the 21st Century. Those of you who cannot believe should learn the official truth by rote and perhaps you will be able to hide your ignorance. Here are the bare bones of the WTC incident: North tower struck 8:45, collapsed 10:29; South tower struck 9:03, collapsed 9:50; (See http://www.infoplease.com/spot/sept112001.html) Using jet fuel to melt steel is an amazing discovery, really. It is also amazing that until now, no one had been able to …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 3:52 am

    This is an incredibly comprehensive list of sources. This 911 Research site has a good list with overviews of various sources of interest.

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 4:14 am

    The Collapse of the WTC Not Caused by Jet Fuel KEVIN RYAN / Underwriters Laboratories 11nov04 The following letter was sent today by Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories to Frank Gayle of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Underwriters Laboratories is the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the World Trade Center towers. The information in this letter is of great importance. Dr. Gayle, Having recently reviewed your team's report of 10/19/04, I felt the need to contact you directly. As I'm sure you know, the company I work for certified the steel …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 4:16 am

    The more................ We know that the steel components were certified to ASTM E119. The time temperature curves for this standard require the samples to be exposed to temperatures around 2000F for several hours. And as we all agree, the steel applied met those specifications. Additionally, I think we can all agree that even un-fireproofed steel will not melt until reaching red-hot temperatures of nearly 3000F (2). Why Dr. Brown would imply that 2000F would melt the high-grade steel used in those buildings makes no sense at all. The results of your recently published metallurgical tests seem to clear things up (3), …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 31 Oct 05
    • 4:20 am

    The link.

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 1:24 am

    Just at the start of your fist post here KVK, Rabbit just dropping down the page to say this and Hi. Always great to see you, An honest and thoughful "Kid" if ever there was one. Rabbit is a fast reader, but a thoughful one, often reading a single sentence four or five times while contemplating, so replies will be whenever. Late Monday arvo, Boats cooking in the oven and quite a good time for a Jacks to quieten out the nerves and think a bit. God Squad are the last things on Rabbit's mind while 911 is always a shadow. …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 1:27 am

    Kaw Valley Kid, Rabbitreading between the lines, suspects you have at least read the words between Mouse and Rabbit. Here is something which might also be of interest. It is a perspective, a valuable one.

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 01 Nov 05
    • 2:38 am

    Liz, there are amongst these many links, a few which cut to the chase, and really make the case, that is the best Rabbit can say and the least. KVK is ploughing through and is a chapion for this reason, Rabbit who has posted many things a bit carelessly awaits any and all critique from KVK for thgis reason. Rabbit is of the Opinion only that the aircraft which hit the Pentagon, was a smaller jet at least, and was preceded by a missile, or it was pre-comstructed to break the re-inforcing of that particular part of the wall. Therre doesn't …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 1:12 am

    The story about Barabara Olson turning up alive in Germany or at least on the border, was almost certainly disinfo, the source himslef is possibly a disnfo agent, there are those who suspect so. But it could still have had more to it than has yet cometo light as well. It is not as if the story involving her phonecalls was standing up to any scrutiny after all, and a lot of the Gov't theory rests on the somewhar contradictory evidence of her calls. Has Liz seen the interesting paasenger list from the Flight 77? Very high percntage of people who …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 1:15 am

    No it is OK, Rabbit found it, yes well it is only an opinion piece, but not altogether a bad article thought I still. Like his argument that truth doesn't need laws to protect it. In the given context.

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 1:25 am

    Now for some serious opinions which Rabbit feels deserve attention. A former chief economist in the Labor Department during President George W. Bush's first term now believes the official story about the collapse of the 110-storey twin towers of the World Trade Centre in New York on September 11, 2001 is 'bogus', saying it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7. According to Morgan Reynolds, Ph.D., a former member of the Bush team who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis headquartered in …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 1:29 am

    Morgan Reynolds further states: "Getting it right in today's security state" remains challenging because American explosives and structural experts have been intimidated in their analyses of the collapses of 9/11. From the beginning, the Bush administration claimed that burning jet fuel caused the collapse of the towers. Although many independent investigators have disagreed, they have been hard-pressed to disprove the government theory since most of the evidence was removed by FEMA prior to independent investigation. Critics say the Bush administration has tried to cover up the evidence and the recent 9/11 Commission has failed to address the major evidence contradicting the …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 1:33 am

    This is also on the above link. 9/11 Aircraft Parts as a Clue to Their Identity The following article is by George Nelson, Former American Air Force Official that appeared in the opinion column of Tehran Times on Wednesday, September 21, concerning the highly suspicious aircraft that plowed into New Yorks Twin-tower, 110-storey high World Trade Center and in the Pentagon in Washington, making analysts doubt the official White House version of the story and convincing many that it was the work of insiders connected to the US Administration itself. Excerpt of this article is as follows: The precautionary principle …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 1:37 am

    Considering the catastrophic incidents of September 11, 2001, certain troubling but irrefutable conclusions must be drawn from the known facts. I get no personal pleasure or satisfaction from reporting my own assessment of these facts. United Airlines Flight 93: This flight was reported by the federal government to be a Boeing 757 aircraft, registration number N591UA, carrying 45 persons, including four supposedly Arab hijackers who had allegedly taken control of the aircraft, crashing the plane in a Pennsylvania farm field. Aerial photos of the alleged crash site were made available to the general public. They show a significant hole in the …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 1:40 am

    Conclusion: The US government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11, 2001, resulting in the deaths of about 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. The hard evidence would have included hundreds of critical time-change aircraft items, plus security videotapes that were confiscated by the FBI immediately following each tragic episode. With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 4:04 am

    Well what do you know you got that right. What does it proove? Rabbit thought you might have sailed with the Radioactive Ship of State, so you want to stay here and give us an object lesson in professional diversionary tactics. The following is indeed a mention of Griffin, has Natalie any answers to these questions? Griffin (pp. 257) succinctly identifies the primary defects in the official account of the WTC collapses, and its sister theories. These problems were entirely ignored by The 9/11 Commission Report (2004), so the government appointees must have found it difficult to account for the following …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 4:06 am

    The steel beams and columns came down in sections under 30 feet long and had no signs of "softening"; there was little left but shorn sections of steel and a few bits of concrete. Photos and videos of the collapses all show "demolition waves," meaning "confluent rows of small explosions" along floors (blast sequences). According to many witnesses, explosions occurred within the buildings. Each collapse had detectable seismic vibrations suggestive of underground explosions, similar to the 2.3 earthquake magnitude from a demolition like the Seattle Kingdome (p. 108). Each collapse produced molten steel identical to that generated by explosives, resulting in …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 4:19 am

    Morgan Reynolds, Ph.D. is professor emeritus at Texas A&M University and former director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis headquartered in Dallas, TX. He served as chief economist for the US Department of Labor during 20012, George W. Bush's first term. Natalie................Rabbit is often careless posting sorces as said, he seeks the info and knows it comes from many places. Often getting something new just becausae it's there. If you ever have a problem with an actual FACT as reported with any source do let Rabbit know won't you. He can always find another dozen …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 02 Nov 05
    • 4:36 am

    Watch out liz, she is a bat, but NOT a nice MOONBAT. A bad Vampire Bat. Back soon.

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 03 Nov 05
    • 11:50 pm

    Griffin is not a central player he is one of many. He is just the one of at least a hundred equally or even more respected people who you have decided to latch onto like the Fat Blood Sucking Leech, I mean Vampire you are. You Natalie have a history of attacking individuals, as a way forwrd when you have NOTHING of substance to give up. Since Nobody is biting on the character assasinations, Rabbit aint and nor is anybody else, you might as well pack it in. Rabbit has many thousands more words of far more import than a SINGLE …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 12:06 am

    Natty you ask why rabbit brought Bill Manning into the debate, and yet it has already been pointed out to you. He does obviously not accept the official explanation and he is especially critical about the way the things was COVERED UP, because there is no other word for disposing of "All" the evidence of a crime before an investigation. The reason natty since you have forgotten, is because the ONLY THING Rabbit is doing in this phase of your destruction is destrying the Official Lie. The other theories are entered into because the same evidence which destroys the official lie …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 8:03 pm

    Natalie the actual Facts Rabbit is not going to play your personal attack Shill games anymore, because it is only Dissemling. You don't have an moral stance from which to preach to others. You are the most morally corrupt person on this site, and we have the history to prove it. A professional liar is no good without a good lie, so you have to stick to Avoidance which isn't going down. You have been allowed to swriggle a bit up to now, Rabbit has indulged your petty points, none of which contribute to anything even if you had anything. Every …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 8:10 pm

    That Texas A&M link tells us nothing of importance Natalie. Why post it? There is no actual statement of import challenged by trhis and even if Reynold said he had an officem which is not indicated, so what? Sorry Nat, the letter, which Rabbit shall take at face value, it may be false, or only one opinion, but Rabbit doesn't care. It doesn't change anything, and the conclusion of the letter is not even scientific. It is the sort of emotional garbage you thrive on. Actually I want more proof that the persona nd letter you just posted is who he …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 8:13 pm

    The Collapse time link you provided is called a Disinfo site, it is not not factually accurate. More about it shortly. It is a government sponsored site and set up specifically for the use of SHILLS like Natalie. The collapses have been given coverage and there is no doubt about them. They are visible clearly in REAL time on many copies of videos. You are sprteading red-herrings and that is all. The issue is covered above for any who wish to check.

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 9:28 pm

    Sorry about the Rabbit mistake the site you linked to was the proper 911Review site, which rabbit has also posted to above. there is a 911Review.org, which is a disinfo site, and Rabbit was hasty in writing it off. However the Rabbit rises another head taller than the Natalie, by recognising and admitting it. Now the information on collapse times, is that there is some doubt about the exact times taken, but it doesn't actually alter the main contention at all. The site in fact is a strong supporter of the theory that explosives were involved. So Natalie, Rabbit will link …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 9:34 pm

    WTC Demolition, slideshow and talk. More and icludes WTC-7 About Disinformation

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 9:49 pm

    The following site includes a good roundup of Witnesses to the explosions in the World Trade Centers, as well as some simple logic. What can you attack this guy for Batty Natty? William Thomas William Rodriguez Just a report, from a reporter, to show he is real. By Greg Szymanski What happened to William Rodriguez the morning of 9/11 is a miracle. What happened to his story after-the-fact is a tragedy. But with miracles and tragedies comes truth. And truth is exactly what Rodriguez brings to the whole mystery surrounding 9/11. Declared a hero for saving numerous lives at …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 9:55 pm

    William Rodriguez' Story How will the SHILL deal with this guy? Attack his character? Attack the sites used so far, (Rabbit has collected dozens of references to Rodriguez' story from the days after the 911 attacks until recently, just in case Natty doesn't like Arctic Beacon or that lady reporter from before. ...since he was late, Rodriguez found himself checking into work in an office on sub-level 1 when the north tower was hit, seemingly out of harms way. However, the sound and concussion of a massive explosion in the sub-levels right below his feet changed that. "When I heard …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 9:58 pm

    here is the key and it is what Natty is all about. (in) Puerto Rico and all the other Latin American countries, I have been allowed to tell my story uncensored. But here, I cant even say a word.

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 10:53 pm

    GO here That is a great site, lots of quotes from experts and exactly the sort of Pyrotechnics Rabbit was talking about. Say one idiotic thing Natty and Rabbit will mention the name of the company........you know who.......and post lots of quotes from the site. For now you can just hope that others dont notice this link and push it. Keep on with those tissues and towels, youll cover that elephant some way. On second thoughts, scrap that, Natty will only feel that is a challenge and will no doubt comply. So here we go This article provides important …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 10:54 pm

    This article..........Rabbit looks behind himself..................... bad electrons, stay put this time.

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 04 Nov 05
    • 11:43 pm

    Morgan Reynolds has been critically examined it seems and while some other of his ideas, which may be being treated out of context anyway, are challenged the fact of his credibility, expertise and position are not. This by Jim Hoffman and it includes the rebuttal and lots of links for anyone who wants to look closer. The essential point is Reynolds' qualification to say what he says. The article Why Did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse? published on the libertarian-oriented website LewRockwell.com, has garnered considerable attention. It makes the case for the controlled demolition of the Twin Towers and Building …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 8:55 pm

    Natalie in Brazil? She'll be back once she has fed. This has to be the latest on 911. Anybody who still tries to defend the offiical lie, must be certifiably insane. They would fail a basic reflex test. German Intel Agent Von Bulow Solves 911

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 05 Nov 05
    • 8:56 pm

    TRY THIS

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 07 Nov 05
    • 5:00 am

    Natty is gone walkabout, as she does when the going gets tough.. When the going gets tough, the tough get lost. Come back Natty we want the "official" response to Rodriguez, everybody is dying to hear the government response. Or are you waiting for an assassination to make the problem go away? that is what Rabbit fears. Mr Rodriguez has got to be the most seriously threatened species on the planet, may God go with him.

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 3:40 am

    Nobody said anything about polls and demolition Nasty Natty, we were talking about "NOT believing" the official lie. Those polls are referred to several times above and Rabbit will re-post them in his own time, they are more dissembling by a Liar, you. Your points of vuiew are official propaganda and obviously so. you have avoided reasonable deabte you go round and round with snarky personal attacks, avoidance of issues and false screeching about how badly done by you are. The thread stands and so do otyhers which show you are not even a real person in the sense that you …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 4:07 am

    When a known false info site like which includeds claims about certain sites to be false, and I see my trusted sites among those it lists as untrustworthy? Actually Natalie Rabbit is pleased to see that those sites are under attack, especially as he knows the perpetrators had to resort to false claims about those sites to be able to criticise them. You do use soem garbage. taht link is no more than an attck piece. It uses nothing more substantial than your type of innuendo and starwman arguments. Crap in other words. Where is something factual? It cleverly attacks one …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 4:16 am

    Wow are you a hopeful one. Twenty people, supported by various forms of evidence much of which is outlined on this thread, claim to have heard, felt and experienced exlosions before and after the plane hit. A bunch of government sponsored engineers trying to use various weird ways of explaning, how such a previously unknown event managed to happen not once but three times in one place on the same day. How do you like the odds? You are of course someone who thinks nuclear waste is no worse than lead, so anything is possible. Of course Rabbit knows you must …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 4:50 am

    It is hard to believe you would repost the link of errors which rabbit has already highlighted and which you refer to now it is convenient as you try to use something out of context. So Rabbit shall stop your cherry picking and let's look at the whole artcile, which is of course referenced on many points raised, on the site, Nat had kindly re linked above.

    Parade of Errors On September 11, 2001 four jetliners, the Pentagon, and Manhattan were struck in a complex and coordinated military operation involving numerous individual assaults. A critical view of the timeline and targeting …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 08 Nov 05
    • 11:43 pm

    Rabbit is mostly in agreeance with 911.Review it is he who first posted the link Natty the Lying Batty. It doesn't disparage any particular source or issue Rabbit believs in, it supports it, stupid girl. As for the other one, it said nothing, it merely attacked sites, and as said, Rabbit is aware form his own readings the criticism of some of those sites was right off the mark, had nothing to do with reality on that site, that is common tactic of Government propaganda. Of course you would think your games are just soo convincing and NOBODY could possibly doubt …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 12:16 am

    Natalie the 911 review does not attack Rodriguez' story, but more the way in which it is being handled legally. The thing to remember is that we already know the story of Rodriguez it was reported in enough detail from early on and has been consistent in that it allows for no doubt about there having been explosions in the building before the plane hit, someone was injured in it and there are more than a dozen random witnesses. The legal case may well be being mishadled, and it is not too hard to imagine that could be deliberate. As 911 …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 12:23 am

    Despite your innuendos to the contrary the site doesn't list any of Rabbit's trusted sources and he keeps telling you, Rense just disseminates news, via the original sites mostly, not biased except the in house articles. Which is normal. The other site you mention is however listed by 911 review as DISINFO. Your bread and butter Natty.

    Dissembling Websites We show that the September 11, 2001 attack was a carefully engineered inside job similar to previous attacks such as the Oklahoma City bombing. In the aftermath of this attack, as in previous cases, a community of skeptics worked to …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 12:24 am

    Lip service to the core facts of the attack is sometimes used in dissembling sites to establish bona fides within segments of the 9/11 Truth Movement. For example, Victor Thorn, on the WingTV website, writes in "9-11 Bottom Line: Explosives in the WTC": As the 9-11 Truth Movement surges forward and attempts to determine who the guilty parties actually are, we likewise need to step-back for a moment and focus on what constitutes the crux of this matter. In other words, we’ve been expending so much energy on peripheral issues that we’re losing sight of the most damning act of all …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 12:29 am

    As a matter of fact Rabbit finds the site to be somewhat questionable in it's logic, it seems more into debunking on it's own say so, and there are a lot of leaps of faith. If anything it said conflicted with anything else Rabbit already trusted, he would be forced to look with less favour upon it, it doesn't even make a good case for the things it claims to support which rabbit finds interesting. Point is Natty, the buildings were brought down with explosives no matter how you look at it. Physics, history, witnesses, visual evidence. Whistleblowers and obvious disinfo …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 1:48 am

    Natty hates Mr Griffin so much, she should be made to read another of his very excellent speeches. This one is well referenced too, Rabbit would be interested in any criticism of what he says, rather than Nat claiming he is on drugs. Somehow that just doesn't cut it . David Ray Griffin: 9/11 and the American Empire

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 2:20 am

    Now Natty the foot shooting Batty, has asked about polls. Athough she tried to put a spin on it having to do with explosives........... nobody claimed any such thing........there are plenty of polls about showing the distrust of even Americans, (Gullible creatures) for the official LIE. Zogby, 2004

    Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and Consciously Failed To Act; 66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New Yorks Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals On the eve of a Republican National Convention invoking 9/11 symbols, sound bytes and …

    Posted to Reckoning with the God Squad
    • 09 Nov 05
    • 3:06 am

    No Natty, you are wrong and have been shown to be already. The structures were not unique, they were of a standard type of construction, although there was an attempt by Fema to pretend they were missing certain struictural components early on. This was after the eveidence had been removed from the scene, and before the buildings plans became available. Thus the original structure was shown and it was not what the coverup report claimed. the engineers claims have all been dealt with above. You are pulling your claasic number of raising small pointeless objections, losing every single point along the …

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 3:14 am

    What are you now going on about you ignorant cow? Why don't you look at the facts and tell us what is wrong with whatever Jon Carlson has said. As for who he is, does it matter? Frankly Rabbit finds your innuendos so boring. He is not seeming to write everything, he wrote that article and he may have written something else we have posted. SO what? So bloody what? you have a lot more important issues to address, before going into more character attcks on obscure people. The ZOGBY poll is good isn't it Natty? Rabbit bets on that one …

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 3:27 am

    By the way Natty the fall time of even twelve or fourteen seconds is still impossibly fast for a collapse under gravity alone. However, though this is the only fact you seem willing to accept on that site, which is called cherrypicking by the way, it is not PROOF that the time wasn't closer to 10 seconds, and in fact the majority of claims are of ten seconds or less and they show how those times were arrived at. unlike the 911.Review, which simply makes the claim. In truth Rabbit finds the 911.review to be less than the best referenced site. …

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 3:37 am

    The following is so false that it should by its own logic disqualify Natty from being taken seriously since the issues it tries to present are already blown away earlier.

    I dont know how many times Ive heard repeated..."No steel skyscraper has ever fallen due to fire (paraphrasing) WITHOUT acknowledging that the construction of the WTC towers was so unique as to almost disqualify them as steel skyscrapers. This is substantially disingenuous, and is almost enough on its own to discredit further claims.
    We shall have a look at how the two tallest skyscrapers were hardly even skyscrapers shall we? …

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 3:39 am

    Now this directly brings your LIE into sharp relief. by the way all this has been posted above.

    On Feburary 13, 1965, real estate baron Lawrence Wien called reporters to his office to charge that the design of the Twin Towers was structurally unsound. Many suspected that his allegation was motivated by a desire to derail the planned World Trade Center skyscrapers to protect the value of his extensive holdings, which included the Empire State Building. In response to the charge, Richard Roth, partner at Emery Roth & Sons, the architectural firm that was designing the Twin Towers, fired back with …

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 3:59 am

    Lots of Rabbit words but Liars need help to bury themselves. There are hundreds of different references to the structure of the WTCs from before and since 911, Rabbit has used one, but he could have chosen more and there are of course the original WTC info sites still around. The only sites which call the structural integrity into question are those which have sprung up since 911 to try and spread a myth, which is hereby, debunked. They only do this by talking in generalities, and by misrepresenting the actual structure. If it seems too much to believe that your …

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 4:08 am

    Things that make us go Hmmm..

    SPANISH SKYSCRAPER FIRE RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT 9/11 COLLAPSES By Christopher Bollyn American Free Press The fact that a Spanish skyscraper is still standing after an intense fire consumed the steel and concrete tower for 24 hours provides real world evidence that fire alone does not cause high-rise towers to collapse. As an intense fire consumed the 32-story Windsor Building in Madrid's business district, the press reports all began with the words "fear of collapse." After 24 hours, however, the tower, which was a similar construction to the twin towers of the World Trade Center, …

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 4:11 am

    Rabbit already knows what Natty will say to the last one. She will start by wanting to know who Christopher Bollyn is, or she'll just say he is on drugs or something. Wasn't that what she said about Griffin...... on Drugs? She's a sharp debater our Natty.

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 8:54 pm

    Nattys post isn't worthy of comment. You are not making any case Natty. Rabbit will now start buring you in technical Proof, which is hardly necessary because for anyone who has read all above, the matter is closed. The following has already been posted but you need reminding obviously. The fact that there were some differences in structure, is certainly no more important than the fact the fire burned MUCH hotter for 26 hours. AGAIN

    On Feburary 13, 1965, real estate baron Lawrence Wien called reporters to his office to charge that the design of the Twin Towers was structurally unsound. …

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 9:17 pm

    Fat lot of good that does you anyway. The concrete Center is a trade site and it draws a comparison between the two in the way it does in an attempt to promote concrete. Hardly what one could call an impartial comment on the overall design similarities or differences. That is beside the point anyway because the statement refers only to the Interim NIST report which we have already proven relied on false design parameters, and is itself under a substantial clowd in every important respect. This is a typical way you mob of Clowns in the US JUNTA and it's …

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 9:29 pm

    The so called Investigation is given a very well researched treatement here, and if anyone wishes to claim the FEMA report is anything but shallow piss meant to cover a bigger stain, they had better be prepared to tackle "ALL" the issues on that site. That doesn't include the authors even, because it is in black and white. The report is there and so is a commentary with references all the way. So Rabbit calls you Natty, get out of the ditch and spin a better spell my gel, that one didn't go so well. How do you explain 7 …

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    • 09 Nov 05
    • 10:12 pm

    More of the Choir Natty? Marin County Post

    Four Years Later-More Questions Than Answers On 9/11 By Stephen Simac It's the fourth anniversary of the Attack on America and two official investigations into the events have been made public, more or less. The joint congressional hearings (see Coastal Post, Sept. 03) and the independent 9/11 commission (CP, Sept./ Oct. 04 ) have each issued reports that exonerated all government officials and agencies for their failure to prevent the attacks. It's easy to understand why the joint inquiry backed off blaming anyone. During their investigation the members and their staff were …

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    • 10 Nov 05
    • 4:20 am

    Taking a Closer Look: Hard Science and the Collapse of the World Trade Center by Dave Heller, article originally appeared in Garlic and Grass

    While it may be difficult to awaken everyone from their state-induced fog of fear, we are at a critical point in history which requires us to try. We truly must take an objective look at the facts and evidence surrounding 9-11. While none of the many 9-11 researchers knows exactly what happened on that fateful day in September almost 3 years ago, any sensible person can easi