I disagree; Mr. Vonnegut states that all of histories guessers "gave us the illusion that bad luck and good luck were understandable and could somehow be dealt with intelligently and effectively". But there is no illusion. We do in fact control our destiny, and we can manage our secular affairs precisely because it has nothing to do with "luck". Here's an example: If George Bush the Second decides to cut taxes for the rich, and lie to persuade the American people to invade Iraq, the following will happen: Deficits will rise because tax revenues have declined and wars cost money. The …
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Responding to M Goodwin; Yes, there is guesswork and bad luck involved in natural disasters like hurricane Katrina. But I still stand by my statement that we are victims of bad policy, not bad luck. The war in Iraq, our trade and budget deficits, the corruption of Bush Inc, these are not the results of bad luck, or poor guesses. And I would also like to mention that I am a huge fan of Mr. Kurt Vonnegut. My previous post to his essay is my first comment on this site and I hope no one found it offensive. ...
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Uhh; This is becoming a very strange thread for the discussion of Mr. Vonnegut's essay. ...
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I went out and bought a copy of Slaughterhouse Five today, with my last eight bucks, and I just finished reading it. There are numerous references in the book to God, Jesus, the serenity Prayer ect. After reading his essay about one's guess being as good as another, I cannot figure out if Mr. Vonnegut is secular or not. ...
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wileywitch; Your posts and arguement with marge did not offend me or make me uncomfortable, but I think those posts were off topic. As for spiritual/religious versus rational/secular, what I'm asking is does Mr. vonnegut believe that things will work out in the end. In Slaughterhouse Five, Billy Pilgrim learns that each moment is not right or wrong, good or bad, it just IS. If that is true then why fight the good fight? What if George Bush the Second is neither good nor bad, what if he just IS? These questions do matter Ghostrabbit. ...
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Admarshall is posting ads and html crap to attract search engines. Someone should remove his posts.
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AdMarshall is an idiot, and this will be my last reply to one of his posts. In your retort to being accused of plying adware, you mentioned two things of interest. 1) "After two months of iMarket Research, HTML keywording and selective cross-linking to significant-other sites, we got Google, Yahoo and HotBot to list this little, laidback factory in HaNoi on their first pages of hits every time someone searched for “technical outerwear”, “technical outerwear manufacturer” or “technical outerwear manufacturers”. HG40 couldn’t ask for more as those 3 terms described the biz exactly. But, to my amazement at least, 5 years …
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YEAHH!
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Right on Rocco; I like Kurt Vonnegut, and I recently became interested in him and his work. That's why I became a member of this forum, and posted to this thread. However my first post disagreed with Mr. Vonnegut. Because I dont think our policy disasters are about guesses. I think these are deliberate decisions made by a bunch of off-the-lake crooks. That doesnt mean they know what they are doing, or that things are going to work out the way they planned. Our national finances are tottering. This year's budget deficit will be over 400 billion, surpassed only by our …
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Ad Marshall; Yes, I've read some "theories" that propose the Bush adminsitration was responsible for 9/11. I dont believe it, in the sense that I dont believe his cronies actually planned the attack and made it look like al-Qeada did it. These things are preposterous. Does anyone actually believe that the US military chain of command, (they would have to be involved), would take part in such a diabolical act? Most of our military is just plain folks, which is to say good people. I agree with your statement that what we know vastly less than we dont know. But I …
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