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W Otis

    • 12 Nov 06
    • 9:22 am

    How anyone could cite the economy as an issue in this election is beyond me. The economy, is going gangbusters! Get serious! This is a direct result of the Bush Tax Cuts (it always happens when taxes are cut, as John F. Kennedy and Ronald W. Reagan knew). Unemployment is at a 40 or 50 year low (which means there are more jobs ... hmmmm how can that be; I thought Bush destroyed jobs?) Mortgage interest rates are still extrememly low (lower than when I bought my first home in the early 70's, just prior to Jimmy Carters double digit home …

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    • 12 Nov 06
    • 9:27 am

    Actually, cabdriverinchicago, the Clinton recession began in the summer or early spring prior to Bush taking office, so if he had something to do with it, I don't know how he did it. Perhaps you forgot about the so-called dot.com crash and the stock market taking a dive back in those days.

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    • 12 Nov 06
    • 9:32 am

    Hyjinx22, they won't learn. They never have and never will, and their leaders in high places want to keep them uniformed so that they will continue to elect them. I have to admit I was surprised at the outcome of this election; I had no idea just how stupid so many people were. I thought the great economy would be the main driving force. Shows you just how effective the Democrat propaganda machine was. They are wolves in sheeps clothing. We will have to be extremely vigilant in this 110th Congress and watch every move they make, and expose them for …

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    • 12 Nov 06
    • 5:26 pm

    I don't know what you're smokin', cabdriverinchicago. Where do you normally get your news? This website? Ha, ha. Hilarious! It is quite common knowledge that the economy was quite in recession by the end of 2000 (however it was described as a weak recession at that time, I believe), and I'm willing to bet if you do some searches on the Internet for economic news from back then, you will find there was deep concern as early as the summer of 2000. Of course, I understand that you Democrats and liberals like to Blame it on Bush, even though the recession …

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    • 12 Nov 06
    • 5:34 pm

    Forgot to ask you, cabdriverinchicago; just WHO has "pretty well established that the Bush "tax cuts for the rich" (again, you got a tax cut too) haven’t helped the middle class or poor"? How have they NOT helped, when many are now PAYING NO TAX AT ALL? Job creation "modest or slow"? You're not paying attention. Unemployment is at 4.4%. I can tell you for fact, I am having my best year ever, as a self employed person in the construction industry (and I'm in Ohio, which they say is behind the rest of the country) I'm doing well, and I'm …

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    • 13 Nov 06
    • 7:27 am

    First, please refrain from your name calling. I didn't call you a leftwing fascist scum, so treat me with respect also. Secondly, one who EARNS more and PAYS more in taxes, of course, is going to see more in dollars. If you are only earning $25,000/year or less, you are paying little or no taxes anyway. So quite naturally, you're going to receive a smaller amount in dollars. What you people want is sombody elses money! You don't WANT to work for it. Besides, you forget that the child tax credit increased, the personal deduction increased, the "earned income credit" increased …

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    • 13 Nov 06
    • 7:46 am

    Let me say one more thing; then I'm through with this: I think it's absolutely OBSCENE that the government should take more than 10% of ANYBODY'S income. Some people are forking over up to 50% on some earnings. Do you think that's right? I also think it's an outrage that the government should tax (again) the inheritance one receives from his family. Whatever a parent earns and socks away for the future rightly belongs to his heirs, if he so chooses to leave it to them. The government has NO RIGHT to any of that money or property. That is THEFT. …

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    • 13 Nov 06
    • 8:03 pm

    Hey, look: I'm just a tile guy. I'm not rich. I live in an 1860's farm house, and we run our business out of that house. I don't know how to interpret a lot of these figures, but I can look at a graph. And when I see the graph that shows how much in taxes the well off are paying, compared to me (the top 50% are paying 96.54% of all taxes), I can understand that. I haven't owed income taxes because of the Bush Tax Cuts (I do pay "self employment tax", of course) I look around me and …

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    • 14 Nov 06
    • 7:16 am

    blondemike --- I don't know who "Scorp" is, but I can assure you I am not that person. I only discoverd this rag a few days ago. I honestly don't know why I bother to post here, because you lib's (and you socialists) will never "get it" anyway. For you socialists, the truth doesn't suit your purpose. Libs, on the other hand, I think are just plain blind. I don't know much about economics; I've never taken a course, but economics isn't rocket science either. Here are a few simple truths about economics: High demand for a product or service that …

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    • 14 Nov 06
    • 7:28 am

    Apple Computer, another great example. The two "Steve's" (Wozniac and Jobs), worked at HP. They belonged to a club of like minded people who were interested in computers. Steve and Steve built a little computer that they called the "apple". Everyone loved it, and wanted it. Long story short, Woz and Jobs went looking for financing to buy parts to meet the demand. Finally, they convinced Bank of America to back them, and Apple Computer was born. The rest is history. They created wealth for themselves and a whole bunch of others, and spawned the PC industry. IBM, focusing on small …

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    • 14 Nov 06
    • 7:26 pm

    blondemike ---- The Reagan Tax Cuts DID in fact produce more revenue; but, as with the Bush Tax Cuts, the Congress spent likd drunken sailors. That is what produced the deficits. Sorry, but I disagree with you on almost every point. About the only thing we agree on is to be skeptical of government! :)

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    • 15 Nov 06
    • 7:19 am

    "One of the core considerations in the tax cut issue is equity. There is a deep sense that in this country since the Reagan era, the rich and the big corporations have not been shouldering their fare share of the burden." -cabdriverinchicago Show me the facts that bear this out. The weathies Americans are paying 96.54% according to government figures. I told you this before, but you choose to ignore it. It is a fact. "All economists agree that the record deficits under both Reagan and Bush 2 were produced by two factors, wild tax cuts which dramatically reduced the revenue …

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    • 15 Nov 06
    • 7:34 am

    The "rich get richer, and the poor get poorer" lie. Just this week, Harry Reid uttered this nonsense, yet again! I'd like to know; where's the proof? Show me. How does this happen, and where do we see the evidence? Prove it. The tendancy is just the opposite, as more and more people move themselves up, not down.

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    • 15 Nov 06
    • 7:56 am

    One last comment: Our problems here in Ohio stem from a lousy, disappointing Governor, Taft, who is a poor example of a Republican, and a couple of others embroiled in scandal. Secondly, and more importantly, from poor tax policies which are driving business out of Ohio. Ohio has become the third highest state in terms of taxation. Quite simply, businesses see that they are better off elsewhere. But, Democrats have been involved in a lot of scandal too; it just doesn't get as much coverage. Sherrod Brown, who will replace Mike DeWine, was invloved with a drug scandal in his office. …

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    • 15 Nov 06
    • 6:56 pm

    blondemike - Give me a break! I think you're on dope.

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    • 15 Nov 06
    • 7:00 pm

    Miky, you're just too full of yourself.

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    • 17 Nov 06
    • 7:30 am

    Figures from the IRS for tax year 2004: Percentage of Federal Income Taxes Paid (Percentile ranked by AGI) Top 1% 36.89% Top 5% 57.13% Top 10% 68.19% Top 25% 84.86% Top 50% 96.70% Bottom 50% (less than $30,122 AGI) 3.3% This, according to the IRS's own figures. End of discussion. Anyone care to argue who's not paying their "fair share"? Average Federal Revenue (Tax Burden) Per Houshold by Administration (Inflation adjusted, 2005 dollars): Bush (43) $18,057 Clinton $19.343 Bush (41) $16,157 Reagan $15,529 Carter $15,746 Ford $14,748 Nixon $14,635 Johnson $14,181 Kennedy $12,237 Source: US Bureau of the Census

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    • 20 Nov 06
    • 6:32 pm

    "These hardcore ideologues are not open to reason and all they do is bog you down refuting their lies." - Blondemike Perfect description of the left. You people are so full of BULL! SOMBODY needs to post some hard core truth here. If that's "hijacking" your board; tough. I've never seen so much leftist propaganda (B.S.) in one place!

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    • 12 Nov 06
    • 3:32 pm

    Why don't you so-called "progressives" be honest and call yourselves what you are: Socialists Everyone knows this; why hide it?

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    • 13 Nov 06
    • 7:01 am

    Where's the proof? Those prisoners in Gitmo are living in luxury! Get real. They are treated better than criminals in US prisons. Why not post some back up links to your claims.

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