Democrat vs. republican is a smokescreen. democrat will give you the boot without the bootstraps and republicans give you the bootstrap w/o the boot. in the end the status quo remains the same and no major shake in the current parties can really help the truly disenfranchised.
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if you are familiar with the preamble it is the government that is to promote the general welfare of its citizens. bm did you respond to rh?
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\affirmative action, civil rights and desegregation are all born for the desire for equality. can we say that this is an equal society? for what ever reasons we cannot. the latest politics of conservative payback make it less so. should we return to segregated school? should we return to separate and unequal? should we return to jim crow? the selfish desire to see our own (sons, nieces, cousins kin, kind, ethnic) prosper is part of human nature and is the essential base of racism. realizing this we want our children to marry with in our group. is that wrong? what is …
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blondemike please read any book by molefi asante and understand how your sterotypical opinion of africa is part of a eurocentric tradition of seeing themselves as the greatest and the only.
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bm think on this african american fought hard and died and were lynched and were raped faced tragic circumstances after slavery. look up the red summer of 1919 when returning vets killed blacks carte blanche because of the shartage of jobs. we had little black girls blown up in churches to get civil rights-- your concept of equality in just certain cases like justice just does not fly. as of a few years ago in texas blacks were still being lynched dragged behind pickups etc. i am not one fairly young who does not wish to ask for anything from mainstream …
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history of racism and slavery when spain was able to throw off the yoke of the moors --blacks who had conquered the nation and inadvertantly help position spain to dominate the world. there was a backlash against africans seen in spains request from the pope to enslave any non christian to help in the new world. ferdinand and isabella began black slavery to help with sugar farming after most native americans died from disease. first blacks in north american english colonies were off course and sold to pay for food. they were made indentured servants. a case where three indent ran …
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the hardest thing to do is to let go of a security blanket, or a pacifier or an addiction-- racist ideology fits into these categories--- it is comfort when the world is not what it should be--- it is some one else fault--- even when we are confronted with the existence of our own failure or our fathers wrongs we shift our points of view to compensate like the smoker, the drinker, the hater.
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as for the comment licking old wounds and blacks not thinking creatively-- when should one not consider a wound-- there are incidents of blatant discrimnination and racism going on now. do we merely forget december 13? the trillion you speak of for social programs. 13 cent of evrydollar for welfare goes to recepient the other 87 % goes to adminis. what about corporate welfare tax breaks etc. if trillions spent than average black recep wouold be millionaire. Creativity --- carver's peanutbutter but only white companies benefit. rock and roll, and jazz but whites own the masters----lol greed and racism prevent African …
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bm if you do not believe histroy study it for yourself. but maybe you are right may be not truth or words can sway your heart maybe you are dewstined to maintain the same opinion no matter what eveidence is given you. you seem to be more into this page for arguning and soapboxing. i hope you find realization and peace . hate is a hard meal to live on.
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mr. bm your studies and opinions must be guided by a true desire to learn. the facts can be found in most encyclopedia's or histroy books which facts fo you dispute? sugar trade being the base of slavery? spain dominating the world following the discovery of the new world? the stats for welfare can be found iny federal budgetr report for each year. bm i thought you had an honest desire to learn and could scrutinize truth beyond an emotional retort. rational discussion without slams and profanity but if my attempt at dialogue is not civil or up to your high …
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redhorse i agree with alot of what you say but if you bait some people they will only feel cornered and want to respond with verbal violence. i can tell you are well studied but read my noptes on metacognition and peruse rhetoric. if your goal is to end racism or ignorance than fire on fire does not seem like a sound strat. peace
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i think you may be right redhorse. bm i ask again since you are so entrusted with knowledge of history which fact do you dispute? again on mcwhorter there are a number of black intellectuals who have better credentials but don't get the same acceptance by the media because the message although researched and true are not easily digested. you prove this point. Asante. diop, karenga, hilliard, smitherman etc. to name a few. i appleogize 4 bad grammaand spellin' i be typin on the fly.
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pain and suffering is relative. but print this list up and let your friends know how you really feel. never heard of them so they can't be .... reverse aa reverse brown revert back to slavery.. you speak hate and genocide. i have tried reason but i think the only thing i can do for you is pray. you win bm patience, dialogue, truth, and hope are not enough to win over your position. maybe one day some one will help you understand that hate is not the way. did not hitler have a final solution like you mention?
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chessfrog ec l/r -6.13 so lib/aut -4.36
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vox logicatus amen
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let us digress, i think at the heart of the affirm actt. issue is an issue of integration and social justice. Is it possible in today's america? is bigotry hatred and stereotyping as seen on this very thread in previouschats indicative of the way america feels? is this one nation? or is this the beginning of a separatist state?
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if you read j piaget or b.f. skinner you will realize that human nature makes us all prejudice--once bitten twice shy-- with the concept of schemes and schemas we adopt a notion or theory or stereotype and don't adjust it until new info comes. a child may call everything that flies a bird until he learns butterfly. you have taken the notion and hold the notion of blacks as criminals, welfare receps, and social malcontents. i have tried to adjust your perspective of this but your knee jerk reaction is to dispute any thing that does not fit into your scheme …
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there it is! i think someone just got spell checked w/ mo vaseline! the question of wether a.a. can be opposed by non bigots or if there is a better system? i think any one who opposes affirmative action without acknowledging the problems it is set to remedy or offering a better solution in its place may have an agenda that is myopic (selfserving socially) -biased.
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again digressing to the topic -- being fortunate enough to have an honest even if not self acknowledging bigot present. What is your solution or alternative to a.a. and segregation?
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this was done in the 60's and the 70's , and a move toward this was done with busing-- the main stream response was white flight from the inner cities. equalizing funds on a state level at least may be more plausible.
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digression. what is the solution? you point out and criticize busing and equal funding and blame blacks for the educational status. african centered education does build self esteem and there are a number of success stories in chicago and detroit. but no child left behind and standardization work against dealing with specific and local issues. you are indirectly advocating a return to segregation. and before you kneejerk i may not disagree if funding is equalized and staff selection is careful and consented to by the community.
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digression for the last time stay on topic--- if a black school asks for black teachers is that racist? can a school require students and teachers to live in the district? should public servants who serve and are paid by a community be required to live and pay the tax base of that community? would you allow the governor to live in another state? the mayor or school board to live in another community? pleas stay on track----
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